First?

I am sad we lost the chance to learn [Teleport]

Larro 2011/06/01(Wed)23:10 No. 37369 ID: e6df26
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Someone wanted the names, species and element of the Dragons in Guardian so here they are along with their dragon shrine.
Shares Water Merfolk, Ombra Shadow Dark Elves, Myli Earth Humans, Thasi Fire Tigerfolk, Aeryr Wind Light Elves.

>>347169
Masil Light Catfolk

Artemis 2011/06/19(Sun)23:57 No. 38298 ID: aca5e6
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=Meanwhile back in Mimi's Chest=
Mimi is cleaning up the floor.

>>348098
Delicious rebirth fluids.

alright. a questdis.
yea... so saisai is now suicidal because we broke her mind (why did we do that to her?)

So... how do we convince her to go along with us?

broke her mind? what do you mean?

She was broken to start with. We all knew that.

This is why we can't have nice things! InsufferableMystic 2011/06/24(Fri)19:22 No. 38553 ID: 856690
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Can more than one person be bonded with the same person?

Also way things are going, we are gonna get a tragedy, which is no good.

Also yes she was broken, how did quest handle that?

HURRDURR, push Artemis and Morgan together!

don't get me wrong, Morgan is cool, but really, she has no NEED. Also Artemis said things had gone to a standstill there.

all that aside, Wind Dragon has probably been making broken headness worse. That and Artemis being a cold cold man.

Artic man. Artic

>>348353
oh no man. we pushed as hard as we could to get art with saisai. apparently helping morgan make a phoenix down caused art to fall head over heels for her. seriously he gets mad at saisai for HITTING him and forgives morgan instantly for KILLING him.

Wait a second... could being brought back to life by the phoenix down caused side effects?

Ombra 2011/06/24(Fri)20:57 No. 38559 ID: 6c068e
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This is the Information Corner, with Little Ombra! Hey, did you know I'm talking to you guys all the time from the back of that dumb kids head? Look at the email field!

We might as well break up with Morgan now.

To put it bluntly - He has spent 0 leisure time with her, period. He constantly has to console Saisai. He runs off with her without warning.

Oh, and he bound his soul with her, so we can't really date or sleep with Morgan, closed link or no, without experiencing pain and sadness and anger. We don't really have a choice here - Saisai dies otherwise - so there was no point to persue a relationship with anyone besides Saisai in the first place.

As much as I like Morgan, there's no reason to put her through the pain and angst of us being soulbound to a jealous and needy woman.

>I don't want to bind with Morgan, I'm not sure yet.

And then

>OH SHIT SHE GONNA DIE BETTER SOUL BIND RIGHT THE FUCK NOW

Yeah. That's really a decision. Except it's not. It's emotional manipulation and the threat of death.

>>348359
dawww. little ombra is so cute!
She would make an awesome waifu!

Wait... what? she was talking via email field? I didn't notice o.O

>>348360
Estia said "at least one person"... the soulbind DOES allow poly relationships.

Also, in retrospect, wouldn't saisai feel attracted to morgan now?

>>348364

>Estia said "at least one person"... the soulbind DOES allow poly relationships.

Because Morgan was totally gunning for one before.

She said she doesn't want one. Unless that has changed, then this is hurting her.

Furthermore, it STILL wasn't really a choice.

ok so art soulbound to saisai to save her life. and then art tells morgan that. and then morgan, being the crazy bitch she is, wont listen and just dumb his ass for something that you feel is cheating?
no she will feel weird but she will listen and talk about it. if she DOES dump him at the first sign of stormy waters then she wasn't a good girlfriend anyway.

>>348368
basically that.
Also someone in main said to get estia on breaking the temporary bond.
1. Estia is not an extremely powerful mage.
2. That serves no purpose except for dooming saisai. This is a possibility AFTER Aeryr is out and even then I don't see it happening.

>>348368
>>348368
We will tell Morgan. I can gaurentee you she will not be HAPPY. She might not boot us in the fork, but she will likely be displeased.

Furthermore, this WAS NOT A CHOICE. We were essentially FORCED to 'choose' Saisai.

>>348379
She only got possessed because she was the closest person besides art when he killed the dragon and we chose to suggest possession to said dragon. And this does fit in universe with what is going on and what we are doing.

As for being forced to choose her... saisai was not interested in art from the beginning, we pushed and pushed and chipped at her step by step, eventually making her to like him, then more and more dependent as we cut her off from everyone else for her own good and proved how bad they are for her and how good art is for her. Then when we finally got it we went "sorry, no thanks"... Then we tried for the poly option but handled it poorly and it didn't stick.

So aside from having "brought it on ourselves" deal, this is ALSO opening the door for a viable chance at having that poly relationship which everyone was clamoring for, since now art has the excuse of "I had to do it to save her life", so if morgan doesn't break up with him (or does but gets back together) then it might work out... yea she isn't gonna be HAPPY but being upset is not necessarily the complete and utter end of the relationship.

>>348390
>we

I'm sorry, I never voted for Saisai. :V

>>348396
well this was a democracy and you were outvoted.

>>348396
Well so what? A lot of things that lead to this were things I voted against too.

But this is what was democratically elected. Just because what YOU voted for didn't win doesn't mean the author was railroading.

Dumping some wild guessing I made in IRC (regarding the Dragon Slayer from Guardian Quest) and edited out mostly irrelevant stuff.

<Anonymage>: the Dragon Slayer... is Oraes. Or what's left of her.
<Anonymage>: And one possible reason why Sandra is being so protective of it is because she can tell
<starburst98>: the dragon slayer was made years before she died
<Larro>: I did say oraes's body was silver :P
<starburst98>: like, 1000 years
<Anonymage>: Well, that doesn't mean it can't be part of her, still
<Anonymage>: Maybe she "donated" some scales or something.
<Larro>: That's highly possible
<Seven01a19>: Clearly, we should ask Sandra what she 'hears' from the the sword.
<Seven01a19>: If her soul clung to the Dragon Slayer, then we can very easily bring her back.
<Anonymage>: What can kill a dragon? A weapon made from dragon bits.
<starburst98>: except the sword makes a very obvious anti-dragon field.
<starburst98>: not just super sharp vs dragon
<Anonymage>: star: If Oraes 'willingly' gave her life to Sharaes to be used as a tool to balance power by way of there being a threat to all their lives, you can explain the abilities of the Dragon Slayer.
<Larro>: I will consider this..
<Anonymage>: Likewise if she was brutally murdered by the other dragons, and her hatred continues to burn within the sword.
<Anonymage>: anyway this is all just wild guessing and doesn't mean Sharaes didn't just find a space rock somewhere that was like dragon kryptonite and decide to make the sword out of that

Dump finished. You can laugh now.

Anonymous 2011/07/03(Sun)12:28 No. 39104 ID: 2d8058
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Her horn tastes like sugar and can grow back when eaten
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"I said no!"

>"Just one lick!"

>>348904
cute, and sexy

Artemis 2011/07/03(Sun)15:21 No. 39107 ID: 2d8058
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Last part

>>348907
dawww

Larro 2011/07/23(Sat)02:44 No. 40540 ID: c676bd
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More quests added to the list

The Test was started just because I had a crazy idea of someone using their own bodies to solve puzzles. It's slow updates are due to the fact that puzzles involving bodies are damn difficult to come up with.

How to be an Overlord was a thought I had a while ago. I was discussing Rune Factory with someone and they made a comment along the lines of killing innocent townsfolk instead of monsters to farm for items. I had a few of the servants sketched out for a while but no one for the protag until yesterday it hit me, /quest/ is the protag. Then everything fell into place.

Feel free to ask any questions regarding either of the quests in here.

Larro 2011/07/23(Sat)03:45 No. 40545 ID: c676bd
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A sketch of the possible protag and the first sketch of Emily.

Wounded Overlord 2011/07/23(Sat)17:33 No. 40579 ID: f678f8
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Some mechanics for Overlord
Attacks are rolled for in my /tg/ thread on this sight.
1= Crit Fail with a chance of inflicting a terrible wound on yourself. With a 1, 20 you somehow managed to wound the target along with yourself.
2= Fail and wound self.
3-9= Fail
10-18/19= Success with normal damage unless using a weapon with a crit of 19-20. Emily's blade arm has a crit range of 19-20.
19= Double Damage
20=Critical Hit. Certain spells and weapons make 20 a instant death.

Most characters can move 3 squares per turn unless they have a ability that lets them do otherwise. Running allows someone to double their speed at the cost of a Attack action.

The battle has different phases which are
Placement: Placing your Servants before the battle starts (Only done at the start of battle)
Move: Moving up to the total amount of squares you can move per round
Item: Using stored items.
Attack: Attacking...
End: Enemies turn now.

If there are anymore questions or comments feel free to say them here.

Also: Another doodle I made working on the quest. A fighter class trying to take on the Overlord. Perhaps from his more youthful and not broken days

Thanks for the overlord info!

Wounded Overlord 2011/07/23(Sat)20:58 No. 40589 ID: f678f8
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Emily Stat Sheet

Her only real power is her Arm Blade which can slice for x2 damage at 18-20 as opposed to just 20.
She can also Levitate over gaps and difficult terrain without taking any penalty to movement.

Rage: If Overlord or Rose are bloodied within 2 spaces of Emily her attack do an automatic x2 damage but she must attack every round. Every round. Even against Allies.
Endure: Emily can work up to -5 HP at which point she simply falls apart.

what are the Overlord's stats right now?

Wounded Overlord 2011/07/23(Sat)21:55 No. 40595 ID: f678f8
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Right now Overlord is best at simply staying back and shooting stuff with his blaster. He has no true skills or special abilities other then Enslaving and Ordering around troops.

>>350395
So totally the strongest character.

Oh good god. Next order of business is to upgrade his health.

Wounded Overlord 2011/07/24(Sun)12:41 No. 40611 ID: 563ead
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just so they're all in the same spot
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Rose uses a Spear which can hit enemies up to 2 spaces away. She can also toss the spear at minus accuracy for x2 damage at a range of 4 squares.
Comrades in Arms: When within one space of Emily and the Overlord her attacks do an additional 5 damage.
Jump: Using her Spear Rose can launch herself into the air and slam down on an opponent within 3 squares any side of her for double damage. Crit jump is Instant Death to most enemies. Can only be used once per encounter.

Wounded Overlord 2011/07/24(Sun)14:20 No. 40614 ID: 563ead
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Magic explained
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Spellcasters use MP for their spells. They start with and have a maximum 1 MP + 1/Level. A level 4 spellcaster would have 1 natural MP + 4 bonus MP for a total of 5MP. Basic spells take 1 MP to cast with stronger spells taking more. This would leave a spellcaster with only a few spells to cast before running out of MP, but as a move action they can charge to generate another MP for them to cast with. So when using charges they can: stand still and charge 2 MP, move and charge 1 MP, or stand still to charge one MP and cast a spell with it.

Picture: Basic Element Wizard to the left. Time Wizard to the right.

Do the move, attack, and item need to happen in the order listed, or can you do stuff like attack then move?

Ruby Stats Wounded Overlord 2011/07/24(Sun)16:16 No. 40622 ID: 563ead
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Ruby is extremely weak in everything but her magic.
She's level 2 so she has 2 MP and one spell, Fire which does an average of 12-15 damage for 1 MP

At levels 4 7 10 13 16 19 20 she gets new spells.
At level 10 she can change her class to another branch of Magic User

>>350416
The phases are set and everything but Item must be done in the correct order. Using an item can be done at any time during a turn.

>>350422

I don't want to be that wiseass guy who corrects everyone about everything, but I think you mean she has 3 MP.

When it says archers can shoot '1-6 Sq + 1 per lvl', you mean '1-(6 + 1 per lvl), right? That would be rather inconvenient if the min range increased as well.

>>350429
>>350430

Corrections everywhere. Yes she has 3 MP and for archers let's say their level is 5 then their range is 2-6+5

I'm new at tactical rpgs this so please feel free to correct me if you see something is wrong

>>350431
As long as there's some interesting story or something. I'm still enjoying it at the moment, but I don't want it to be pure grind.

>>350439
I got plenty planned out but everyone wants to level up and stuff atm.

>>350441
They will ALWAYS want to do that if you let em.

But as long as people are happy. Whatever. :3

>>350441
I'm not sure range should increase on archers every level, unless you don't mind them being able to shoot anywhere on the map once they're above level 6 or so.

Right now, I suspect people want to go for at least enough gold to afford a kitchen. While it's interesting playing around with this battle system right now, you might eventually have to mostly gloss over the more routine battles to keep things from getting dull. Though right now enough characterization's happening to keep it interesting (like Ruby's rebellion, the consequences she suffered, and her eventual submission).

Archers gaining range as they level is okay, but you probably should put a max cap on that.

Also, sometimes you might have to spring things on us players to break us out of our "build up, build up" complacency. Just saying.

I don't know about other people, but I intend to get gold until the overlord can get multiple hit points.

By the way, considering how the stats are likely to change frequently, perhaps you could make a page on
http://tgchan.org/wiki
so you can update the stats. (For ease of updating, you could have the image just be the unchanging parts and have the changing parts be text.)

http://tgchan.org/wiki/Overlord_Stats

that'll be updated each time someone levels up. It's simple at the moment but I'll try to add stuff like equipment later.

Also I had this idea for helping out with level/gold grinding.
The Overlord can send out units to defeat some of the easier enemies. Like sending out Rose to fight in a Rank 1 area while they go and fight others. She gets to level up and gets 20 something Gold in the process.

what do you think?

>>350484
Reminds me of Dispatch missions in the FF Tactics series. Sounds good.

>>350484
I think I also agree with that idea, and it thematically fits for an Overlord to send out their minions to do their nefarious(?) bidding.

>>350484
Seems sensible enough. Say, a single minion can defeat areas 1/3 of their level automatically during the same amount of time that it takes the overlord to take an action, and they'll level up after their level in encounters? Then we could basically have minions auto-farm the very low level encounters and slowly level into more powerful minions, without basically putting everything on automatic and kicking back- we'd still have to deal with nontrivial encounters ourselves, or send larger groups of minions hunting.

>>350489
You can't gain to many levels from weak level monsters. After a while the minion won't get any XP for fighting levels ones, and then none from level twos. This is for farming gold so that way you don't need to fight everytime you want to buy a healing potion.

Also this was asked in the quest
>do units with a strong lawful/good alignment get a penalty to loyalty?

Answer: Yes.
For the most part. An Angel would have like -1,000 loyalty stars and most likely would never listen to overlord
Someone like a cleric might if manipulated the right way.
There's almost always a way to get your minions to obey the trick is just finding out that way.

By the way Larro. On the Overlord Stats wiki. It still says Ruby and Kassandra have 2 MP, which you said they have 3. Here >>350431

Also could the range of basic attacks for units such as Archers be added?

Updated the wiki with known units and some info about them and fixed the MP thing. If there's anything you think should be added just ask me or if it's a mistake I made feel free to edit it yourself

...so how much Disgaea have you been playing lately?

>>350589
None sadly.. I haven't played in quite a while since my ps2 broke.

do you have a psp or a ps3? they ported the original over to psp and Disgaea 3 and 4 are on the ps3.

I have neither a ps3 nor a psp. All I have is my ds ;-;

Also some other notes
Enslave can not be used unless Overlord is in the battle.
Buffs last the turn they are cast unless it is for defense in which case they end at the end of the opponents turn

so, equipment. who can equip what?

http://tgchan.org/wiki/Overlord_Stats

Added some Equipment and stuff

Ruby just gained a spell while hitting what should be level 3, but you said spells are gained a level 4. Experience wasn't noted when the gunner was killed, so did she gain a level there, or is this just an inconsistency?

in my mind I have it so they gain one every three levels so the number three just stuck. I've decided to instead just bump back the levels that spell casters gain spells.
This also helps out since they won't gain a spell the moment they can multiclass as well.

So, some questions on how things work. Spearmasters can attack up to two squares away. If there are two enemies in front of the Spearmaster, can they hit both of them at the same time?

The beastmaster seems to do more damage with claws. Are the claws a type of equipment, or do beastmasters just have claws? Does the whip have any advantage over claws? Maybe required for certain monster attacks, attacks farther away, or if the claws are built in, can potentially do more damage if a better one is bought? For taming, if she does this can the Overlord still enslave? Can she tame any monster defeated in battle, or just the last one like the Overlord? And since this is something it says she casts after the battle, does she have to be one of the units chosen to field? And when she tames, or when the Overlord enslaves, do we still get exp for the kill?

Actually, how does exp work at all?

Some of these I think I know the answers to, but clarification is always good.

>>350933
oh god so many questions. Lets take it from the top

Spear Masters can not attack two units in a row until a later level.

Claws are equipment beast tamers use. It double as armor against animal bites. The whip is another one of their weapons. It's main advantage is that it can hit someone two spaces away instead of just one for the claws.
She can tame a monster even if the Overlord Enslaves and it can be any monster defeated in that battle. The monster must be a lower level then the tamer however.

The tamer must be in the battle to use her ability like overlord must be in the battle to Enslave.

You still gain XP even if the enemy unit is enslaved.
Also I can not explain the XP system.

Phew. Hope that covers everything

Do tamed creatures level up/gain skills, and can they be resurrected if they die?

>>350953
My impression was that beasts would generally be used to fuel the Tamer's special attacks. At least that's probably the best use. And our regular units would be humanoids, we don't need beasts out there too.

>>350953
yes to all that. But honestly I wouldn't waste much time on Beast Units. The Hero and Demon units are far more powerful in many ways.

Also another thing, Boss fights need to be taken to get Special Units/Plot.
The Rank for these is usually the average for the area you're in

>>351091
which, this area having above tens as the norm the boss will MURDER us.

well if an area's rank is 10 then that means that the total level of the people you will fight against are 10. It could be a level 2 3 5, ten level 1s or a level 10

>>351094
That is insanely useful information. I was assuming that a level 10 area would contain units who would be around 10, with numbers not playing a part. So running into one level 10 unit would be lucky, a 9, 10, and 11 together unlucky. Or maybe even average.

Not really sure why I just assumed that, though I think the logic behind it was along the lines of the more enemy units present, the more allies we could bring in the fight, thus "evening it out" to the same level of threat. Though I'm not sure why I assumed that either.

>>351127
>So running into one level 10 unit would be lucky, a 9, 10, and 11 together unlucky

A 9, 10, and 11 together in one fight would mean a level 30 encounter.

What Larro's trying to say here is that a level 10 can be composed of:

10 level 1 enemies
3 level 2 and a single level 4
2 level 5 foes
1 level 7 and one level 3

and so on.

>>351130
Yeah, I understand how he explained it. Was just saying what I thought it was like before he did so. My assumption on how things work was way off.

Unfortunately, I get the feeling that much of the group would be against doing a boss fight unless we outclass it quite a bit, to avoid the permanent loss of characters that they've grown attached to.

Wounded Overlord 2011/08/11(Thu)12:58 No. 41383 ID: ff6056
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I'm really sorry it wasn't clear.. I thought it was but I guess I'd only explained it in Irc

Here, have some Silva the Wicked vs The Overlord goodness.

I'll probably never draw Overlord pre-fall so he is just a blob for now

>>351183
Well, at least she never has to worry about gaining weight!

So if we were fighting 'wicked' demon queens and trying to unify the continent, why does everyone hate us and follow Abe instead?

They just racist?

>>351185
His problem was that he went about it the wrong way. Like, crushing all kingdoms regardless of whether or not the leader was actually good kind of unification. People rebelled. Sure he killed some pretty bad people but others didn't deserve it

>>351185
we were trying to break the system, the angels aren't good, just lawful. meaning that getting rid of the constant battle would ruin them.

>so he is just a blob for now
We prefer to be referred to as 'enshrouded in darkness'.
:p

What are angels like in this setting? Do they work for one or more deitys, or do they just kind of do their own thing?

>>351186
Makes sense why everybody wants our presently nonexistent head then. Hopefully we can fix that problem and achieve Best End.

>>351194
The End where we conquer the entire world?

>>350601
Actually they have a port of the psp port for DS. Oh crap I just derailed the quest didn't I.

Wounded Overlord 2011/08/23(Tue)21:56 No. 41891 ID: 175a2b
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>Crumpets
>Cucumber sandwiches
>Monocle

>>351691
None shall withstand out sheer Britishness.

>>351691
Popularity combined with lack of updates consistently results in increasingly severe topic drift, you know.

>>351691

"If there really is no Cirr, then it will be necessary to create him."
-- Anonymous

People leveled up and stuff, new stats are over at http://tgchan.org/wiki/Overlord_Stats
Right now it's mostly just level up and HP increase.

I've been meaning to ask- why does Kassandra have four spells at level 4 when Ruby only has two? Is throwing fire just so much harder that Ruby doesn't get as many tricks, or what?

>>351888
That's because of Kassandra's class. Fluff wise she has the powers of god supporting her so healers are granted more powers. Game wise she has less branching options then a normal mage so she gets most of her spells early on and only a few when she multiclasses

The wiki doesn't have a link to Item quest, anyone have one?

>>352014
Sure. It'd be nice if someone who can would put these on the wiki, as well.

Thread 1: http://tgchan.org/kusaba/questarch/res/207296.html
Thread 2: http://tgchan.org/kusaba/questarch/res/221628.html
Thread 3: http://tgchan.org/kusaba/questarch/res/231021.html
Thread 4: http://tgchan.org/kusaba/questarch/res/239190.html
Thread 5: http://tgchan.org/kusaba/questarch/res/246523.html

>>352017
Thank you

>>352017
http://tgchan.org/wiki/Item_Quest

All on the Wiki now. Don't read it though, it's terrible.

Better than most of the stuff I wind up reading on a daily basis

Larro 2011/09/03(Sat)23:44 No. 42293 ID: 12ca4d
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Tamers and armor do not mix.

the Item Quest wiki has been completely redone
http://tgchan.org/wiki/Item_Quest

Is anyone interested in my continuing this quest?