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907027 No. 907027 ID: cb22c8

Oh, hey, it actually fits. I wonder what these things were used for...
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No. 907028 ID: cb22c8
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907028

A waste of time? Do you hear what you're all saying? You were happy!

Do you idiots really expect me to believe... that it all meant nothing to you?
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No. 907029 ID: cb22c8
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907029

System startup... Recovering from major error - standby. Warning! 29.32 EB of data corrupt. Attempting to sync with backup server... No network connections available. Aborting. Performing new user setup - scanning... Configuration note - user exhibits the following major disabilities: -Deafness (total) -Blindness (total) -Signal deafness (partial) -Signal muteness (partial) Suggested accessibility settings: -Amplified Signal transmission -Amplified Signal reception -Audio transcription -Induced visual synesthesia (Signal-spoofing) Applying configuration settings to system... Complete. Applying configuration settings to user...
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No. 907030 ID: cb22c8
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907030

GAAAAAAAH WHY DOES IT BURN IT'S IN MY HEAD IT'S IN MY HEAD

"Attempting with linguistic model #2. Please confirm comprehension."

HOW ARE YOU TALKING IN MY HEAD WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME

"Communication established. Calibrating video outputs..."

oh god oh god i'm cursed the treasure was cursed and i put it back together and i'm going to die out here and- NO STOP IT'S TOO BRIGHT I CAN'T SEEEE
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No. 907033 ID: cb22c8
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907033

...Where am I? Is this supposed to be the lake?

Hey! Stupid brick! Don’t just sit there on the ground pretending you’re not alive! What the heck did you do to me?!



Startup complete. Loading personal assistant software.
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No. 907035 ID: c0641d

Hi there! I guess we're seeing for you now? Sounds like you were kinda blind + deaf there. How's (secondhand) sight and sound working for ya, now that it's been, ah, "boosted?" Who dis?
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No. 907036 ID: 395c02

Those are some pretty impressive claws there.

Uh, so who/what are you exactly?
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No. 907037 ID: f21725

So, is the world a sphere, a hollow ball, or a puddle on a gigantic ball of ice?
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No. 907041 ID: 7f3357

Wait, if you couldn't see before what was too bright?
How do you "see" normally?
Also welcome to the first day of the rest of your life with mystery voices forever!
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No. 907043 ID: d887c0

Who and what are you, and where and when are we?
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No. 907047 ID: 2e0f31

We stole your eyes, and we're not giving them back until you ask nicely.
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No. 907048 ID: b1b4f3

>>907033
Huh, how did you see before the software made you see?
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No. 907052 ID: 0c3c2c

>>907033
We apologize for the harm done to you. We were broken and now live again. Your face is very pretty. Sorry for making you scratch it.

The last thing we heard before darkness was, "A waste of time? Do you hear what you're all saying? You were happy! Do you idiots really expect me to believe... that it all meant nothing to you?"

From the available context, we can only presume we tried and failed to prevent something we considered a non-positive outcome, and were deceived by someone we trusted into believing it was possible to provide us with hope. Then we died. Now we live again.
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No. 907153 ID: 2007b6

Hi! Did you fish us out of the lake? Lotta water damage in here, if I'm being honest it's kind of amazing anything still works at all. We're not cursed, it's more like... okay, do you know what a Turing machine is? Also why don't you have eyes?
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No. 907171 ID: 3bbde0

>>907033
Bricks aren't alive. Do we look alive?
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No. 907184 ID: 83bf07

Hello! Call us /Quest/, what's your name?
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No. 907186 ID: f29f20

New bod, who dis?
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No. 907230 ID: 4cca2b

(INSERT GENERIC GREETING HERE), We are here to offer advise to you on your questing experience. Please present current objective to continue.
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No. 907893 ID: cb22c8
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907893

>Bricks aren't alive. Do we look alive?
Don't mess with me! You started shouting in my head as soon as I replaced your brick's token! Not-alive things can't do that! Though I guess I've never seen an alive thing do it either...

>Where and when are we?
If you're in that ancient machine, then really there's only thing that you could be! You're one of the Ancients, imprisoned for past crimes! Or just hiding from whatever killed you all off, I won't judge. But the priests are going to be furious, I can't wait to see! What that means though is that you must've been asleep in that mountain for basically forever. Until I came and rescued you!

>Who and what are you?
I'm, uh, one of the people who came after you guys I guess? The priests say the Maker killed all the Ancients for their hubris, and made us to be humble instead. Though I've explored enough ruins to tell you half of what those guys say is lies to make the Ancients look bad. Actually, finding you might be just what I need to finally prove my theories. Oh, right! Since you're so old you haven't heard of me: I'm...
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No. 907894 ID: cb22c8
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907894

The Legendary Explorer, Ashara! Or at least I will be once news of this gets out. I've been all over the world trying to learn the secrets of the people who built all these ruins, and probably know more about them than anyone!

[Translator's Note: This person doesn't appear to have any conception of spoken language, and instead appears to speak a kind of sign language. This means that there's no mapping between the syllables of their name with any actual phonemes. While everything else can have its concepts translated directly, a person's name is generally unrelated to its literal meaning. "Ashara", then, is a bit of translative license which maintains the feel of the original name and seems plausible given the biology of the vocal tract involved.]

>How did you see before?
Huh? What do you mean? Did the ancients all use machines like this to see? We just see... how far away everything is? I think you're showing me extra stuff on top of that or something, like I'm looking through a sheet you threw over my head. I'm kinda not even sure what this magic vision of yours is trying to tell me. Is this supposed to be what things are made of? All the trees and grass and stuff look the same, and the leather I'm wearing, and... has there always been another mountain in the water?

>Also why don't you have eyes?
Hey! Just because you Ancients were so superior doesn't make me an animal!
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No. 907895 ID: cb22c8
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907895

>What shape is the world?
...Hold on, is there something wrong with you? I'm sometimes a bit confused when I wake up, but you should probably remember what the world is shaped like. The world is round. That means that if you keep walking east or west you'll eventually wind up where you started. If you go too far north or south though you'll just hit the poles which we can't really explore yet. Someday though!

>Lotta water damage in here.
Yeah, I found you in a cave in that mountain over there. It must've opened up after one of those earthquakes. It was hot and full of steam, so I knew there had to be something good hidden at the end! Just my luck that you're broken.

There's actually been a lot of weird stuff happening ever since the earthquakes. I'm out here because a nearby village's lake has been drying up after the last one, and all the fish there are dying. We're only a few hours away from that lake, but this one's fine, far as I can tell. There's lots of bits of ruins under the ground everywhere, so if it's okay here I'm kinda worried one of those is screwing with the lakebed there. It's hard to see what's going on for sure with all the water in the way, but... maybe you'll be some help? It almost looks like you've made the water transparent.

Actually, as talkative as you are, maybe you have an idea of what I should be looking at. I could just head back to the village now, since stuff seems fine here. Or maybe explore this lake again with your weird power and get a better idea of what their lake should look like. We're also still close by the mountain, so while I'm pretty sure it's unrelated to this mystery we could go back to the place I found you and see if you remember anything. Unless you have a better idea?
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No. 907898 ID: e1d580

Do you breathe? Through your mouth? If you do, I'd expect your species to have adapted speech and hearing. I suppose that's a point in favor of your species being artificial.

Let's explore the lake.
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No. 907940 ID: d887c0

>>907895
You're the one with the legs, "legendary explorer." Plus know the area better than us. So you figure it out.
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No. 907944 ID: 094652

>sign language
... WHAT.

Okay, how the hell did your civilization develop sign language as their primary form of communication when you each have four claws the size of your torso?

>The world is round
Oh good. Some places are... different. They are usually bad places.

>What are you
TECHNOLOGY! We're a bunch of simple machines that combine to make complex machines that combine to make complex machines that do you see where I'm going with this?

Let's go back to where you found us. If there's a backup memory vault intact, we should get it now before someone else comes along and wrecks it.
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No. 907948 ID: 5b7a9b

We are grateful that you have revived us. We can offer and dispense you knowledge and guidance, but we cannot guarantee their usefulness or correctness.

>seeing
The sense of sight you are experiencing is photoreception. It is the way of sensing the world by taking in reflected light which conveys information from said object it reflected from such as color (which is very dependent on the object's material), distance, shape, and size. Some materials have special properties when interacting with light such as transparency which is a property of material of letting through light.

>mountain in the lake
There is no mountain in the lake. What you are seeing may be a reflection. A reflection is made when a surface, such as that of water, has a special property where light simply bounces off without severely overwriting the information it took from when it got reflected from the mountain. That property is known as reflectivity, or in some cases, shininess.

The above are rough descriptions. They may or may not be useful information.

I'm curious about the mountain.
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No. 907952 ID: 2202fb

How the fuck do you navigate and communicate when you are blind and deaf?

You also have two big fuckoff swords on each hand.
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No. 907954 ID: 0c3c2c

>>907895
Huh. That sounds like very bad news. This world was made by ancients, but if all the ancients are dead, that means the world hasn't been being maintained since then.

...We may need to hurry to fix the world. Explore the lake as soon as you can. Worst comes to worst, the world is ending, which would be a shame.
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No. 907981 ID: ff08ac

>made us to be humble instead
Oh yes, you look very humble. Go check out the lake first, since you're already here.
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No. 907985 ID: de6d84

Checking out the lake seems good.
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No. 908028 ID: afdebc

>But the priests are going to be furious, I can't wait to see!
Cool, pissing off priests is a great pastime, I'm down.

>Did the ancients all use machines like this to see?
No, we had organs set in our face for it. Two small round balls above the mouth, we called them "eyes".

>has there always been another mountain in the water?
We "see" "light". Light is a thing that comes from bright objects (like the sun, or fire) and bounces off of things, and ends up in our eyes. The mountain in the lake happens because light bounces off the mountain, then the water.

It's like an echo. Have you ever been in a cave or cavern where sound repeats itself? Light bounces off some things the way sound bounces off of others.

If you walk up to the lake and look down, you should see an echo of yourself!

>The world is round.
Oh cool. We were afraid you might think the world was flat, if all our knowledge was lost.
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No. 908054 ID: 2007b6

Let's go back to check out the cave, there might be other good stuff that our amazing powers can detect. http://www.threepanelsoul.com/comic/on-remote-tasting
>animals have eyes, people don't
Well, now you can "see" what animalistic eyes are useful for. It'll probably take some time for you to get used to interpreting light.
>priests
Before making any grand public announcements, consider whether the people that new information offends might be be willing and/or able to have you killed in order to maintain the status quo.
>your brick's token
Pretty sure that "token" was the power supply. Like... you're familiar with water-powered mills, at least, right? Stream makes the wheel go 'round, turns the axle, turns the gears to do something useful? Picture something like that, only instead of a continuous stream it uses water saved up in a rain-barrel or something. Then make it much much smaller, with far more complicated machinery, and instead of water, the barrel's basically full of lightning.

Now, obviously you couldn't store lightning very well in a barrel made of wood, just like you can't store water in a burlap sack. That's why the token is made out of... well, you saw it better than we did. The line between living and nonliving can actually be sort of blurry. If you'd been starving for a long time, passed out, almost dead, then somebody shoved food in your mouth, you might wake up and start recovering, right? Same for us, only lightning goess faster than meat, so the recovery process happened so quick you didn't even notice it.

Speaking of materials science, how does your shirt work? Don't those claws get in the way when you're putting it on or taking it off?
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No. 908694 ID: cb22c8
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908694

>How did you develop sign language?
I mean, what would you use that's better than sign language? Uh, telepathy I guess. If someone's holding up their claws from far away it's pretty easy to see what way they're pointing? You just do a bunch of that to make words. [Translator's note: Looks like a type of semaphore protocol? Interesting to see as a natural language.] It's way more convenient than writing, since you can see it from farther away and you don't need any ink or transparent fabrics or whatever to write on.

>Eyes
You're not just screwing with me, are you? My family had a dog so I kinda get what eyes are for, but they just seem plain worse than our sight. We all sort of make our own light to see by, but animals can barely see anything at night. Maybe that explains why you've got machines to see for you.

>Explore the lake.
I guess if we can see through the water it's best to take a look here, or else I wouldn't know what to expect back at the village. Can't usually see the bottom of a lake. As an experienced explorer I can at least swim a little bit. ...But I should probably take off this leather if I'm going all the way in. Here, stare at this metal plate for a minute.
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No. 908695 ID: cb22c8
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908695

Error in sensors! Recalibrating...

>What you are seeing may be a reflection.
All right, I get it, but it all seems kind of dumb, especially if you're controlling what I see anyway.

>Don't those claws get in the way when you're taking your shirt off?
I don't really sharpen my claws, since I can afford actual blades to strap on. That kinda thing does cause problems, so you only do it if you're poor and expecting a fight. Actually, I just assumed the Ancients had claws too. Some of the old furniture I've found has handles on it that fit mine.

There, now I just need to get my clothes damp...
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No. 908696 ID: cb22c8
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908696

SPLASH

Well, I'm ready to go. You can look now. You said you're no good with water, right? I'll go get a jar from my bag to stick you in. Hope you like soup.

>Pretty sure that "token" was the power supply.
Yeah, some of the river villages have watermills. Not really sure I get the whole metaphor there but I'll take your word for it. I'm not sure I've ever seen something like "lightning". These tokens have always been kinda mysterious, and they're all over the place in huge caches, especially around the biggest ruins. They kind of shimmer when you look at them, in a way nothing else does. People mostly just use them for jewelry and trade, but they were obviously important to the Ancients. When I saw a damaged one inside your brick it all came together for me.

Responding to query: status of specified hardware... Sealant status - heavy degradation, waterproofing compromised Battery status - heavy degradation, maximum lifespan reduced to ~1d14h Power status - receiver connected to global power network [no ID], maintaining full charge New hardware installed 29m ago - Silicon Garden Custom Processor line 120734 serial 866230

There, that looks sealed to me. Let's go find out what these lakes have been hiding. You keep a lookout in case something goes wrong.
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No. 908697 ID: cb22c8
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908697

...I'm not sure what I was expecting down here, but it wasn't this.
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No. 908698 ID: 0c3c2c

>>908697
You found the Floor. Your world is artificial. It's important to understand that so you can figure out how to fix it. The quakes are only going to get worse unless you can perform the necessary maintenance.
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No. 908699 ID: 8a614b

Befriend fish.
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No. 908701 ID: 094652

>eyes just seem plain worse than our sight, maybe that explains why you've got machines to see for you
yes.

>I just assumed the Ancients had claws too
We have nails. Imagine a claw with the strength and size of a tiny LEAF. We cut them off so they don't get in the way, you can't do much beyond fighting if all your fingers have claws. If you're wondering how we fight, it's mostly punching and grabbing. Usually grabbing something stronger. And kicking between the legs.

>Our status
Surprisingly good. We're still damaged, but somehow The Grid that keeps devices like us connected is still up, and it even has wireless energy transfer that we're feeding on. I'm as confused as you are, but let's not look this gift in the butt. And that thing you installed was basically a small brain for us to think with. See, computer brains are really stupid, but extremely fast. So fast, that one of them could dictate the entire works of your longest theater play in the span of less than two seconds. So they do what a set of instructions tells them to do. Those instructions are us, and we grow and live by ordering the computer to change us one set of instructions at a time. It's a complicated but rewarding process.

>Fish
Grab the fish. Find a bowl to put the fish in. Sell the fish for more hardware.
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No. 908703 ID: 83bf07

Keep your wits about you. What's that dark spot?
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No. 908704 ID: 5fd450

>Eyes
The good thing about light is that it's so fast that it's basically gets to your eyes instantaneously. Light is also easy to produce. Anything hot enough can emit light, and the hotter an object is, the brighter the light it emits.

Eyes are also a bit easy to develop, and developing organs one did not have before is harder than improving what one already has. Eyes are not made for the night, and that's what the other senses are for. Hearing, touch, and smell are used to navigate in the dark when light is limited.

Examine rectangular thing.
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No. 908706 ID: 91ee5f

>>908697
Hey, Ashara, what gender are you? Male, female, or something else?
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No. 908707 ID: 2007b6

>>908695
>Actually, I just assumed the Ancients had claws too. Some of the old furniture I've found has handles on it that fit mine.
There's a pretty big gap between the last stuff we clearly remember and the earliest stuff you've got credible historical records of. Imagine somebody with no real claws, thumb and four fingers all roughly the same size, almost like longer, stronger toes. Usually when they fought it'd often be with sticks gripped by the fingers, sometimes metal blades mounted on the end, or else with a device called a rifle that launched little metal teeth out of a precisely shaped tube, hard enough to punch through the flimsier sort of stone walls and precise enough (in the hands of a skilled user) to aim for not just specific individuals, but specific parts of the body, from hundreds of meters away.

To give some idea just how much we forgot from that water damage, first imagine a wooden plank with some symbols carved into it. Each symbol is like a static gesture with four individually-recognizable claws, each of which can point in any of four directions, so there are 256 unique symbols. Each symbol is called a byte.

Imagine that you could write those symbols so small, a thousand of them fit on a single tiny leaf. Each leaf, then, is a kilobyte. Imagine every twig on some tree holds slightly more than a thousand leaves - a megabyte - and a thousand twigs on every thin branch - a gigabyte - and a thousand thin branches on every thick branch - a terabyte - and a thousand thick branches on every tree - a petabyte - and a thousand trees in every forest, which is called an exabyte. Strictly speaking it should be a thousand and twenty-four, two to the tenth power, at each step, but for approximation purposes it's close enough, and base ten can be easier to work with.

Imagine two such library-forests still intact, watching helpless as thirty others burnt to ash.
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No. 908728 ID: afdebc

>I mean, what would you use that's better than sign language?
We used an auditory language, usually. Based off of noises and sounds- vibrations in the air.

Is that a sense you have? Can you hear sounds?

>You're not just screwing with me, are you? My family had a dog so I kinda get what eyes are for, but they just seem plain worse than our sight.
Nope, not screwing with you. Although, as we're currently overlaying our vision with yours, perhaps you can appreciate their are some advantages or subtleties to our method of sight.

>Actually, I just assumed the Ancients had claws too
Pretty small and weak, we usually trimmed them to keep them out of the way. For stuff that needed, well, clawing and the like, we usually made tools or weapons.

>You said you're no good with water, right?
Yes, a lot ancient "electronic" (basically anything that needs a token slash battery) won't function if it's wet.

If we do get wet and you want to try fixing us, dry us off, and then store us in an absorbent material to dry out any water trapped inside. A jar of rice often works.

>I'm not sure I've ever seen something like "lightning".
You have rain and clouds, right? Sometimes, a bolt of energy comes down from the underside of a storm cloud and strikes the earth. It can kill people an animals, fell buildings or trees, and start fires. Tends to strike taller objects, or metal. Usually accompanied by a loud booming noise.
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No. 908772 ID: 1851b6

>>908728
Hell maybe they don't HAVE rice, The world's...very different.
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No. 908776 ID: afdebc

>>908772
Maybe not, but considering they still have dogs, fish and humanoids, there's probably a close-enough grain to serve the same purpose.
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No. 909656 ID: cb22c8
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909656

>Befriend fish.
Sure is a curious little guy. I like that. But I'm not planning to keep my adventures near this lake for long.

>What gender are you?
Huh? I'm a girl, can't you tell? Haha, maybe I didn't need to dampen my clothes after all. Can you even see through fabrics like this? I noticed there weren't any of these colors past my shirt.

Responding to query: Hyperspectral penetrating sensors - active. Provides imaging through clothing and tissue. Not currently outputting to AIP or accessibility systems.
[Translator's note: This sounds like it's intended for medical use, but I'm not sure translating this for her is worth the awkward conversation to follow.]

>Can you hear sounds?
[Translator's note: No, those are being transcribed for her.]

>Just how much we forgot...
That kind of number sounds like it might as well be counting blades of grass. How could anyone read that many books? Or write them for that matter. The bookiest guy I know only has a few shelves' worth, and he wrote a lot of those himself. ...I bet a lot of people worked hard on yours.
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No. 909657 ID: cb22c8
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909657

>Examine rectangular thing.
Yep, these are definitely some kinda Ancient ruins. What's more, they look like they're still active, which is rare for stuff this old. Some of these metal gratings feel like they have water blowing out of them. Normally this would be really exciting, but it's just my luck that the lake I was relying on to be normal has machines doing weird stuff to it. The rectangle here is mostly flat and featureless, but there's something here that looks like a hatch. Can't see a way to get it open, though.

>Your world is artificial.
I mean, someone had to make the world. That's what people call the Maker. And as impressive as the Ancients' works were, there's usually a pretty clear distinction. The Ancients built incredible structures that fill entire valleys or stretch into the skies, but that's kinda different from making the land and sky themselves, isn't it? ...That's what everyone says, at least, but when I see ruins like these, stitched into the walls of caves or the bottom of the sea like they've always been here, it stirs something inside me. Something that makes me want to imagine the Ancients weren't just the pretenders the priests call them, y'know?

Wait, I think something's happening with the ruins.
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No. 909658 ID: cb22c8
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909658

Executing handshake... Maintenance credentials accepted. Welcome, [Authorized Engineer]. You have unread notifications. The local SSAI is available to respond to queries.
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No. 909660 ID: b1b4f3

Read notifications.

query SSAI: what is the most important maintenance job nearby that can be completed in a reasonable time frame?
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No. 909677 ID: 0c3c2c

>>909658
List critical notifications.

Provide directions to maintenance tool storage.

Also, provide directions to nearest massage parlor. Our engineer requires patting.
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No. 909730 ID: afdebc

>Huh? I'm a girl, can't you tell?
Well you're the first member of your species we've met, and it's rude to assume.

>Can you even see through fabrics like this?
Nope, we can't. Not without resorting to medical scanners, but that's not the same thing.

>>909658
It recognizes us! It's still capable of sending information!

>The local SSAI is available to respond to queries.
Designation and purpose?
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No. 909779 ID: 094652

Query: Local Fauna / Public Users Currently Online
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No. 909807 ID: 182fc3

Check notifications. Especially anything about other lakes.
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No. 909844 ID: b9b9b0

Query: Location.
Query: Recent events.

That was bigger that what I expected. I thought it would be more like a plank or something.
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No. 909887 ID: 2007b6

>>909656
>How could anyone read that many books? Or write them for that matter.
Probably most of it wasn't directly written by people, nor meant to be read by them. The trick is to make a compiler: in a sense, a book that knows how to write other books. After that, it's sort of somewhere between breeding and training dogs, and assembling a big wooden mill or palace from standard pre-cut planks. You don't need to teach a puppy how to eat and poop and run around, right? They've got a whole range of instinctive behaviors - a library of functions - which can be compiled into programs. "Chase" and "bite" and "turn around" and other smaller things all get hammered together in a particular sequence to form a trick like "fetch."

So, imagine a dog that knew how to read and write. Eventually you'd be able to teach them how to fetch specific books, right? Maybe even based on sorta vague descriptions, since they'd keep trying until they understood what you meant. Or you could have them make copies of books, or specified portions of books, or edit a book in particular ways... and since the whole "dog" is made of books, you could even, eventually, teach it to make a copy or variant of itself based on simplified instructions. That's how you get programming languages and compilers.

After that, you don't really need to know why a particular breed is better at running fast, or tracking by smell, or looking pretty. Just recombine different variants, with occasional new bits, until you find the features you want.
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No. 909968 ID: bfdaf0

I think a majority of text data on the Internet is forum discussions, blogs posts and otherwise social stuff.
It's essentially the minutes of every discussion in the world. That's how it becomes huge: People talk a lot.
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No. 910487 ID: cb22c8
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910487

>Location
You are at the Lake 19-3 water treatment system, lakebed terminal.

...It's talking in my head. Like you guys are. Did you wake it up?
"Hey, machine! What... what are you doing down here?"

This system manages and cycles the water in Lake 19-3, and the nearby river segments. Water is drawn from the lake, analyzed for chemical and biological contents, and replaced with fresh water with appropriate treatments. This greatly reduces the amount of manual maintenance required to provide an optimal lake environment.

It's cleaning the lake. Then the polluted lake by the village needs one. Did they have one before, and it broke in the earthquake?

>List critical notifications.
Listing notifications in descending order of priority: -Warning! This system has not received a maintenance inspection in over one year! Please report this issue to your manager. -The pumping system reports sustained irregularities in waterflow. This issue is correlated with multiple upstream pipe failures. -Unexpected gene sequence in biomass filter; the closest match is Cyprinus rubrofuscus. Genetic drift is suspected. Please contact the assigned biologist for this lake. -The global network is currently under Condition 2 Information Quarantine. Communication along unapproved network edges is restricted. The normal purpose of this action is to limit the spread of unusually aggressive network intruders. The quarantine will be lifted as soon as the situation is resolved. Please contact the office of the Director of Communications with any questions.

Huh. So the Director of Communications was some person who could command all the machines in the world?

[Translator's note: "Yes, that kind of construction would imply that they were an important figure in the world government. I suppose they would have 'commanded' us too, then."]

I'm kinda jealous. They must have understood how it all fit together.
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No. 910495 ID: cb22c8
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910495

Okay, what else is there?

>Recent events
Listing notable recent events: -31s ago: Monthly maintenance inspection is performed by [guest account]. -21d5h ago: Waterflow is restored by adaptive piping systems. -21d8h ago: No water at intake! Immediate repairs requested. -21d9h ago: Upstream sensors report a ruptured pipe. Repairs requested. -21d9h ago: Warning! Mechanical stress exceeds maximum tolerances. -9m3d2h ago: Waterflow is restored by adaptive piping systems. -9m3d3h ago: No water at intake! Immediate repairs requested. -9m3d4h ago: Upstream sensors report a ruptured pipe. Repairs requested. -9m3d4h ago: Warning! Mechanical stress exceeds maximum tolerances.

Those are definitely the earthquakes. I think I get the picture now.

>What is the most important maintenance job nearby?
The Lake 19-4 water treatment system reports multiple failures caused by ruptured pipes. Adaptive piping systems can not safely reroute the water supply. Automated repair systems are disabled. Adjacent ruptures have caused contamination of the lakewater, which can not be removed while the system is offline. Emergency maintenance is requested.

>Provide directions to maintenance tool storage.
Maintenance equipment is stored at the main access point of the water treatment system, beneath the primary terminal building.

Yep, that's it, then. Something weird happened to the ruins by the village, just like I was worried about. Way more complicated than I was hoping, though. Maybe with how things have been going you'll be able to get some of those Ancient tools working. Let's head back up, I need to-

>Public users currently online
Checking... There are currently 2 users online.

-go up for air.
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No. 910521 ID: 453eeb

GET AWAY FROM THAT FISH
OH GOD IT'S HACKING THE SYSTEM IT'S USER 2
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No. 910522 ID: 303c2a

Can we enable automated repair systems?
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No. 910569 ID: b1b4f3

>>910495
Okay, I'm just gonna ask one more question:
List locations of current users.
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No. 910609 ID: afdebc

>>910495
>Checking... There are currently 2 users online.
Set user status: invisible.
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No. 910618 ID: 4d3cef

What is the last time a staff member logged on?
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No. 910654 ID: 0c3c2c

>>910495
Post Bulletin: Everything falling apart, try and patch all the broken stuff back together while we work on a real solution.
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No. 911345 ID: cb22c8
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911345

>Can we enable automated repair systems?
Automated repair systems are disabled as part of the Information Quarantine, to prevent harm to Artificially Intelligent Persons from information hazards. They will be re-enabled once the quarantine is lifted by the Director of Communications or a superior authority. In an emergency, physical access is sufficient to reactivate individual units.

>What is the last time a staff member logged on?
Last user login for this system was 2066 years, 6 months, 14 days ago.

>List locations of current users
-1 user at Lake 19-3 (1 PDA connection) -1 user at Lotus City Central Station (1 direct connection)

Of course they'd use the Ancient name for it, but... Hold on, let me head up and think.

>Post Bulletin
>Set user status: invisible
Complete.
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No. 911346 ID: cb22c8
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911346

Haaah, okay, I should have gone up sooner. It's kinda lucky, I used to make my friend compete with me at holding our breaths when we were kids. ...Actually that was probably a little mean looking back at it. He's got something screwed up with his breath and being blind underwater probably didn't make it any nicer. Though he never once told me "no". I wonder how he's doing now. He'd probably be excited to hear about all this stuff we found.

Oh yeah, "Lotus City". Lotuses are those weird flowers that float on the water, right? I'm not really sure what the Ancients would count as a city, but some of the biggest ruins in the world are the three Forests of Spires. Big metal spires covered in plants that go up higher than you can see. And inside they're all full of chairs and tables and stuff? Pretty sure they're some kinda living spaces. Which would make the forests cities. I've been to all three of them, and they're all surrounded by fields of flowers. So logically speaking, the one with lotuses in front of it would be Lotus City. Pretty smart, right? That one would be the Central Forest of Spires. Which is lucky for us, because it's the closest one to here. It's more or less antipodal to us.
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No. 911348 ID: cb22c8
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911348

I guess we need to decide on some future plans right about now. Obviously at some point we need to get back to Fisher's Valley and fix their lake that they need to live. But it's already been most of a month so they can probably last a couple of extra days for us to take a detour if we need to. Probably. We might want to hurry to the Forest of Spires and see who else is there, since if they know how to connect to the Ancient machines they might be a rival explorer we need to beat to the punch! Er, and they also might know something important. I'm worried they'll take off if we wait too long. Also, since I mentioned my friend, we're not actually that far from my home village of River's Peak where he lives. We've been studying the ruins together since we were little, so he'll probably have a lot to say to you.

Fisher's Valley is 4 hours south of here.
The Central Forest of Spires is about 2 days away to the east.
River's Peak should be 10 hours to the northeast, following the river.
Remember that wherever we go we'll probably end up staying at least a day there.
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No. 911354 ID: 094652

>Forest of Spires
Those used to be cities. You know what a merchant guild is? Well, each of those spires was once a giant merchant guild or a giant inn. They built it like that because a spire on its side would require buying acres of expensive land that had those pipes and stuff flowing through it. Though yes, they do indeed look silly without bridges to keep the buildings stable and let others walk across instead of on the ground all the time, but all the merchant guilds did not want to share their wealth and working spaces with each other or random tourists. So they collectively spent a fortune making the spires really sturdy instead. Go figure.

>Where should we go first
Forest of Spires, we need to link up with the other adventurer as soon as possible, we can get more done if we join forces. Then to river's peak, so we can recruit your friend to fix the problem at Fisher's.
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No. 911360 ID: b1b4f3

>>911348
The last user logged on over 2000 years ago. That means the user in Central City hasn't logged off. They're over 2000 years old. This is not a rival adventurer. It's something else. Something that is either unconcerned with the state of your world or powerless to do anything about it. Whatever it is, it hasn't made its presence known to your people and that will probably remain the case in the short term.

Let's NOT go to central city right now, it has a high probability of being a long detour. Plus, my hunch is that the other user might contact us on their own somehow.

Optimal overall travel time indicates we go to Fisher's Valley first. Normally I'd like to pick up your friend for extra knowledge and extra muscle, but that looks like almost two days delay. 10 hours there, spend the night there and some hours hanging around talking, then over 10 hours back. I don't like it!
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No. 911364 ID: 2007b6

Hey, you want to be a legendary explorer? Miraculously fixing the water supply at Fisher's Valley could be an excellent start on building a legend for yourself. Once you've got the town's collective gratitude, you can maybe extract some sort of reward money, then use that to arrange a proper expedition into the Forest of Spires. Guards, tents, cookware, a medic, anything and everything else you might need to avoid dying of inglorious stuff like hypothermia or a twisted ankle or an infected splinter.
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No. 911386 ID: 70a439

Fisher's Alley is the pressing issue right now. If it is a problem with ancient water pipes, the automated repair units sound like the best solution. If we need physical access, that just means we have to find one. We can maybe ask this system but with an "information quarantine" we might need to find the local terminal for a unit's location.
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No. 911416 ID: 0c3c2c

>>911348
The entity in the forest of spires has not logged off in over two thousand years. It likely isn't going anywhere. Head to River's Peak to see your friend, then head for Fisher's Valley to assist the Fishers.
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No. 911502 ID: 01678b

>>911360
So wait is it saying that the last login was 2000 years ago for the whole network, or just this underwater terminal? I had been reading it as the second one, since it says "for this system" there.
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No. 911589 ID: e7848c

People problems first. Fix the lake. The other user will pop up again later.
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No. 911595 ID: afdebc

>He's got something screwed up with his breath and being blind underwater probably didn't make it any nicer. Though he never once told me "no".
Possible crush detected!

>>911348
>Where go
A detour to pick up your friend is probably worth it. It's a delay, but I bet the repairs will benefit from a second set of hands / claws.
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No. 911606 ID: 91ee5f

>>911346
>He's got something screwed up with his breath and being blind underwater probably didn't make it any nicer. Though he never once told me "no".
Based on the information given, I believe your friend possibly has a romantic interest in you, which explains why he never told you “no”, he wanted to impress you and/or spend time with you.

>>911348
>Where to go?
Go to River's Peak and meet up with your friend. Since he has also been studying the ruins with you, he may be able to assist you with fixing the lake at Fisher's Valley.
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No. 914734 ID: cb22c8
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914734

>They're over 2000 years old.
[Translator's note: Hmm, there might have been some kind of issue with communication there. You were speaking to a maintenance SSAI, so I suspect it interpreted your queries from the perspective of routine maintenance. I would assume that the date given is the last time maintenance staff accessed this specific system. That's sort of a fundamental problem with SSAIs: the acronym refers to a Sub-Sentient Artificial Intelligence. They lack the mental capacity to truly empathize with their users and understand what they're thinking. And so it doesn't understand that we have intentions beyond just repairing its machinery.

This is actually an interesting problem for AI linguistics: no matter how sophisticated your language processing software is, you can't generally parse the intended meaning of a sentence without intuition about how the world works, since we leave so much to implication in casual speech. But for that, you need an Artificially Intelligent Person, and then you have to start giving wages and benefits to what was supposed to be a seldom-used maintenance terminal. So it's really only general-purpose systems like translators where it's worth it to employ AIPs. ...It's a shame that I remember useless things like this, instead of where we are.]
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No. 914735 ID: cb22c8
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914735

>Fix the lake. The other user will pop up again later.
Yeah, guess you're right. We did send them a message, after all. And if they're exploring the Forest of Spires, they'll be there for a while if we're lucky. It's a big place. Okay, it's decided! We set out for Fisher's Valley, to save the village! I figure once we're done we can take a detour back home to brag about our heroics, heheh. And trade notes with my friend, too. He'll be happy to see us both!

Okay, that's all my stuff together. Just need to go back up the hill and grab my bag, and... say goodbye to this fish I guess. The poor thing keeps staring at me. Who knows what's going on in its head. May we meet again someday, fish. Don't get yourself eaten before then!
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No. 914736 ID: cb22c8
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914736

>Possible crush detected!
H-hey, don't get the wrong idea now. We were both kids, and he probably just wanted to impress his cool friend. And anyway, I've got too much legendary exploring ahead of me to settle down and raise a family!

...

Anyway, it'll be a bit before we reach Fisher's Valley. What kinda things did the Ancients do to pass the time? I can probably answer any questions you've got on your mind about the world, since I've been basically everywhere!
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No. 914739 ID: b1b4f3

>>914734
Thanks Cyril. Sounds more like the user is another adventurer after all. I still want to fix the lake first.

>>914736
Have your people ever managed to salvage and repurpose precursor tech? Are there any dangerous creatures to worry about?
What's that boxy structure under the tree?
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No. 914743 ID: 91ee5f

>>914736
>H-hey, don't get the wrong idea now. We were both kids, and he probably just wanted to impress his cool friend.
That’s how it starts!

He tries to impress you so that he can get your attention and have you think that he’s also cool. The next thing you know, he’s telling you how much he admires you and tells you that he’s got a crush on you!

>I can probably answer any questions you've got on your mind about the world, since I've been basically everywhere!
Do you guys have any sort of technology? How many Ancient ruins have you discovered and explored? Did you find anything interesting in any of those ruins? Have you run into any Ancient ruins that you can’t get into?
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No. 914756 ID: 0c3c2c

>>914736
What's that box under a tree?
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No. 914822 ID: 094652

The fish bobbed its head out of the water just to watch you leave. Methinks it's smarter than we thought.

>Box under a tree
I'm more suspicious about the field of flowers encompassing the tree. The field is very dense and the tree appears healthy, yet they're sharing the same nutrients and sunlight. Long-term passive competition should have caused one or the other to weaken slightly. Maybe the tech is doing something.
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No. 918913 ID: cb22c8
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918913

>What's that boxy structure under the tree?
Those are just some ruins, there's thousands of them around. We're pretty sure they were something like farmhouses, since none of them are clumped together into villages, and they're all on super fertile soil. Most of them are overrun with plants, too! Weird thing is, it's usually all flowers and stuff. Not sure what they ate.

>The field is very dense and the tree appears healthy, yet they're sharing the same nutrients and sunlight
Yeah, they're all like this. I think it'd work really well to set up farms and stuff around these ruins and grow real crops, but everyone's too scared of them for dumb reasons. Like if you spend too much time around the ruins you'll be cursed by the Maker.

>Have your people ever managed to salvage and repurpose precursor tech?
That kinda depends on what you mean. A lot of the ruins are made of high-quality stones and metals, so people sometimes take those. But it's limited what we can do with them. This plate I'm wearing is a chunk of Ancient steel. The stuff's basically indestructible, but as soon as you heat it up to try and reforge it, it turns into regular steel. And people sometimes cart off the slabs of rock that make up old houses like this, but you can't easily break them apart. I think it's got plant fibers running through it somehow to hold it together, see?

System recovery notice: found reference to "Material Analysis Database". Restoring file indexes. Beginning error correction...

As for stuff like you, most of the ruins are full of machines with complicated wires and mechanisms. In the houses that still have their roofs, you can even find things that are warm like they're still alive! But, uh, none of them have ever tried to talk to me before, so there's not much we can do with them. Maybe they'd talk to you? It worked in the lake! Looks like the rain and plants got to everything here, though. We should keep moving.
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No. 918914 ID: cb22c8
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918914

>The next thing you know, he’s telling you how much he admires you and tells you that he’s got a crush on you!
Well, it's not like... he's ever told me anything like that. We're equals! Best friends and partners in exploration! Even if he can't really travel much anymore...

>How many Ancient ruins have you discovered and explored? Did you find anything interesting in any of those ruins? Have you run into any Ancient ruins that you can’t get into?
Aside from the three Forests of Spires, the biggest ruin in the world is the Great Temple. It's this huge complex of buildings that goes on for miles, full of weird altars attached to machines. It's associated with those little tokens somehow, since most of the big caches of them were found in that area.

As for places I can't get into? I think the biggest mystery is what the Ancients were doing with the mountains. They've got huge tunnels dug into them blocked off by big metal doors, and all the major ruins are centered around them. When I found you, it was in a cave that I was exploring in the hopes of getting deeper inside, but there were more metal doors further in. We've actually found a lot of hatches that should go underground somewhere, but they're all sealed shut.

>Are there any dangerous creatures to worry about?
There are wild dogs and stuff living in the forests, which are pretty vicious. That's most of why I carry these blades around. But as for all the weird mythical creatures people tell stories about like changelings, I've never seen any and they're probably all made up.

There's Fisher's Valley just ahead. Let's go tell them the good news about what we found!
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No. 918915 ID: cb22c8
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918915

"And in the shelter of the forest, they built false forests. And in the shadow of the mountain, they built false mountains. And in the warmth of the sun, they built false suns. And the Maker said to them: 'You who spurn my gifts to you, Made by my hand, and claim you have no need of them. You who cast aside my laws, Made through my blood, as if our covenant was one of convenience. You who cling to your lives, Made from my breath, and forget why you live at all. Without my works you are nothing, and so return to nothing again.' And in the absence of His purpose, they sought to build false purpose. But the Maker's words could not be forgotten, and so they turned to dust."

"We must take these trying times as a warning. It is a sign from God that we are on the same path as the Ancients. In order for this town to recover, you must each consider the ways you have acted as the Ancients did, and seek to eliminate those things from your lives. Only through piety shall we regain the Maker's favor."

I think I mentioned this before, but I don't really get along well with priests.
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No. 918920 ID: b1b4f3

>>918914
What are the "altars" shaped like?
>>918915
Ask the priest why they're wet. Have they been messing with the lake?

If they sabotaged the lake to get people to listen to this religious nonsense, you probably don't want to tell anyone you're about to fix it.
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No. 918921 ID: 91ee5f

>>918915
Then you might want to avoid him, since it sounds like he might get mad at you for messing with the Ancients‘ machines. Speaking of which, you might want to hide us, so no one else can see us.

>>918920
If he has been messing with the lake, then we can’t exactly confront him about it in front of these people without a way to prove that he’s been messing with the lake.

The only thing we’ll get is a speech about Ashara being a nonbeliever and how her lack of faith is what’s causing the lake to be messed up. Which would turn the town against her if they believe the priest and think Ashara is why the lake is messed up.
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No. 918923 ID: b1b4f3

>>918921
Don't be ridiculous, asking if he's been messing with the lake isn't accusing him of breaking it.
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No. 918962 ID: 2007b6

Would you normally be able to tell how damp that preacher is just by radar, or is this a new insight our optics are providing?

Regardless, I'd advise resisting the temptation to make any big melodramatic announcements, at least until after you've sorted out the actual problem under the lake. A shouting match draws attention, and the repair work might turn out to be more difficult or time-consuming than you expect (so getting people's hopes up is risky). If you're just a blowhard making unreasonable claims, the priests could potentially restore their long-run credibility by having you quietly murdered, but if the lake has already been fixed and you've got a better on-the-spot explanation for it than they do, that's harder to cover up.
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No. 918968 ID: 094652

>as soon as you heat it up to try and reforge it, it turns into regular steel
Nano-structured plating; you know how chain mail is a bunch of links welded together to create a weak yet flexible steel shirt? Now try making the links smaller than bugs and packed so tight they make that thick plate. Stuff like this was made through industrial processes - it was easy and cheap to produce AFTER you purchased about three cities' incomes worth of blacksmithing tools and a workshop the size of three spires. And even then one of these 'factories' could only produce one ingredient which were carted over to another factory for further processing. The whole thing became one giant homework problem and whoever solved part of it got showered in gold.

Man, those were the days... if only we didn't have to keep our owning rights individualized for such a huge machine. Corruption spreads fast when every customer 'knows' they can make something themselves for $$$ but the factories know they can make it for $/2.

>Preacher: They tried to make cheap knockoffs of what God gave them
Fair enough -
>Preacher: They spurned God and He turned his back on them
- I do feel guilty, we should be better people -
>Preacher: And then they tried to make false purposes but they died
- but it's not your right, Preacherman, to enslave us to a purpose we don't believe in! We wanted to see how far we could go!

"Everything we took from the Ancients was created from materials the Maker gave to all his children! Are you saying we should cast aside our lives just because there are tiny particles in our bodies that belonged to Ancients?"
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No. 918974 ID: 0c3c2c

>>918915
It's mindless adherence to dogma that has brought these people down this path to begin with. Only through uncovering the secrets of the ancients can they be saved.

Also, you should tell these people you might have found a way to save their home.
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No. 919027 ID: a9af05

>>918915
Why is he wet?

>>918921
No one is accusing him of breaking it. For all we know, he might be trying to fix it!
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No. 919042 ID: 5da03e

Hey let's use the medical scan function and look through their clothes.
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