>>824754
Honestly, if Leon hopes to be Emperor a hungry drake would be the least of his problems.
Either way we'll cross that bridge when we get there. I just want to see how Leon tries to resolve this so we have a better image of what we have to work with.

>>824754
We don't need to directly influence it to join us, a negotiation could provide a method for beneficial trade as well.

Why aren't we just defaulting to a Macuahuitl, those fuckers could decapitate horses just made out of stone and wood.

because they are just a REALLY sharp paddle it would be REALLY unweildy and thats what a sword is for especialy one with a forward curve which gives it more chopping power

>>824770
that thing is powerful because it's extremely sharp, we can make any weapon we are just as sharp without having such a weird shape.

Suggestion 2017/08/24(Thu)15:27 No. 824848 ID: 9b80a5
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but yeah would you rather have this?

Suggestion 2017/08/24(Thu)15:27 No. 824849 ID: 9b80a5
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or this?

>>824849
I'd rather have this sword.

You know why? Because it's probably a weapon that Leon has some familiarity with. He's probably never even seen one of those paddle things, so he wouldn't know how to use it!

What's wrong with the naginata? He's demonstrated he's got some ability with that!

>>824848
Due to our magical nature we are very light.
This means most blunt force weapons are not terribly effective.

While the Macahuitl is very cool, Leon would only benefit from the edge, not it's secondary clubbing capabilities. The edge's quality depends on material instead of form. Since our material is constant, it would make more sense to take the shape of a more manageable and familiar weapon that can slash and stab instead of slash and bash.

Wait a minute.

Could we buy a sawed-off shotgun and combine it with Bolek? Most shotguns don't use heavy-duty Dragon's Breath fire shot because it warps the barrel from heat, but if we use a shapeshifting barrel...

We could also feed Bolek some oil-saturated wood pulp and get a flaming sword for like thirty seconds.

this is medieval i don't even know if they have GUNPOWDER much less MODERN WEAPONRY like ffs

We should just stick with the shit we practiced with. The ones that work at least.

>>824925
Yep.

I still say Bishamon Yari if we're going with a pole weapon but I also like the default sword cause it reminds me of Bleach.

>>824910
Wait are we Bolek or is the weapon Bolek? I thought we were Bolek!!!

Oh god I'm having an identity crisis. Leon, help.

>>824916
Black powder probably exists, but if this world is anything like ours then it's either a state secret or a novelty.

>>824910
We could. That would be neat.

>>824991
Bolek is what Leon calls Us.
Our Talisman is the Talisman of Mind, and I don't believe we were given a name for the sword.

again this is a medieval era place even IF they had black powder they still wouldn't have MODERN GUNS at the very most they would have cannons if even that
like for fucks sakes what are you thinking

also at the beginning he said we weren't able to make anything moving remember the beads and how they were just stiff spheres so making a shotgun wouldn't work and we wouldn't be able to have ammo either as we cant shoot bits of the sword and black powder would as you said would either be a state secret or a novelty the first situation would make the ammo near impossible to get and the other means we would have to hand load musket like shots in even if we COULD do it cause bullet jackets and the machines to make them WOULDN'T EXIST

like just get a longbow or (if they have it) a crossbow normal pretty easy to aquire and much more versitile

>>824925
This.

>>825007
Strictly speaking you don't need moving parts to make a gun. It helps a lot, but at its simplest a handcannon is just an empty tube with a touch-hole for a match at the end.

But, a one-off weapon is just a novelty. The real power of a muzzle-loader gun is that it can be mass produced and used in firing lines to terrific effect. For that you need resources to build the guns in the first place, and soldiers to carry them.

yeah but as it that would need
1: black powder if it even exists
2: large amounts of metal for the barrel and ammo (though you COULD use rocks i guess)
3: a blacksmith to make a large amount of metal tubes
4: more people to use them cause shooting once every like 45 isn't effective ESPECIALLY as you need to stand still while doing it so you'd only be able to get off 1 shot in a battle so as i said a crossbow or a bow would be WAAAY more effectivve if he wanted a ranged weapon

and again hinging on if they have gunpowder

Leon can you handle a bow or a cross bow?

Gunpowder isn't really useful for a skilled warrior anyway. Up until the invention of the modern bullet, the real benefit to hand-held gunpowder weapons was that they could make effective soldiers out of commoners with weeks of training, as opposed to entire lifetimes.

That said I guess Leon could make use of grenades. There is nothing stopping him from making black powder with our guidance.

Hell, if he happens upon a chemist with a decent set up, we might be able to get some nitroglycerine made.

ok seriously your making this REALLY meta like i like meta things like say the protagonist recognizes us as voices in their head or spirits or little handkerchief dolls like in HALL quest but this...... jeeeez like telling someone in a tgchan quest from an era where they use swords and bows how to make guns bombs and modern explosives like nitro glycerin is just annoyingly meta, like pixel quest managed to pull it off well cause it was in a humorous way but this is like.... ugh

>>825077
Volley fire, from firing lines. That's how you solve the slow reloading times. But yes, this is very premature at best, and probably wholly inappropriate for Leon's situation.

its like if it happens i'm just like:

OW i cut myself on that shattered fourth wall

also cabosh i think please don't let the protagonist overhear this argument please like yeah its your quest and you can do as you please but jeez that'd be like taking a deathray to the 4th wall

>>825097
>>825093

All I'm sayin, is that if we can tell him about wolves, which don't exist, then why can't we tell him about other things?

Besides that, we're The fucking Talisman of Mind. We know shit. At the very least we should know how to make black powder.

ok the wolves was from us not knowing it wasnt in this universe and it was covered a little by someone suggesting that the wolves existed on a diferent plane like the one the mind talisman's voices were on. but maybe we could have knowledge of black powder if it existsas we were with the emperor for a while and they could have discovered it then but either way lets not tell him and instead ask like "do you know of a black powder that combusts when lit?" or something like that so the author can decide if he wants black powder in the quest or not that way if the protagonist says yeah he has or meybe etc we could probabaly inform him idk though

either way i just think quests are more fun with the fourth wall intact and if the author wants its pretty fun to blur the 4th wall but not shattering it then it just get a bit weird like the end pf lixelquest 1 weird

pixelquest*

1/4 Cabosh 2017/08/26(Sat)21:54 No. 825418 ID: 0d7f92
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>>824389
Yeah you are right I have to start acting more like an Emperor! And Emperors love followers, so well try negotiating with the drake first.

Leon Sends Clip to get the cart and the sheep while he follows Rook down to the cellar to check out the equipment.

...

>>824749
Leon: Hey Rook do you have swords made for just thrusting and stabbing up north?

Rook: What? Swords just for stabbing... Yeah we have those, they are called spears.

Leon: Oh.

>>824991
Bolek is what I call all of you spirits or voices or whatever you are.

2/4 Cabosh 2017/08/26(Sat)21:55 No. 825419 ID: 0d7f92
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In the cellar there are stacks and crates of armor, weapons and other equipment laying about.

Leon: Woah! Hey Rook funny question, uhh why do you have an armory in your basement?

Rook: Hm? This isn't my house, it is a mercenary housing. It's been used by different mercenaries for decades, maybe even centuries. We just live here this summer. All this stuff is just leftover.

>>825083
I have been trained with using a bow.

Leon: Are there any crossbows or bows here?

Rook: There are bows probably stashed somewhere. But no swords or crossbows since the mercenary companies want to keep tabs on those and confiscate them if they find them in their housings.

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Rook: Right. Our speed will be our advantage against a slow beast like a drake, so I think we can manage with just breastplates and maybe helmets. We don't want to wear too much when fighting in the summer heat.

Leon: What different types of armor are here?

Rook: Well you got all kinds since some mercenaries order their equipment from faraway lands. Then you got some armor parts passed down the generations or looted from the enemies. Lamellar and mail are the most common types.

Leon: What are these markings?

Rook: Some old mercenary company's marks or the armor makers logo. You find all kinds of different signs and seals on the stuff here.

I have no idea what GUNPOWDER or BLACK POWDER any of those things are.

4/4 Cabosh 2017/08/26(Sat)21:57 No. 825421 ID: 0d7f92
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The (soon to be) Emperors new clothes! Draw some clothes or armor on that boi or suggest what you would like to see.
Also the (soon to be) Emperor needs a sign/signet or a logo designed for himself.

Should I make a questdis thread?

Suggestion 2017/08/26(Sat)22:18 No. 825424 ID: 24caf8
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fight smarter. something less constraining too keep you light in yer feet. chain mail undershirt maybe. and something to conseal a weapon.

>>825007
I'm just saying, we could buy a PARTIALLY CONSTRUCTED weapon (with all the moving parts) and use Bolek for the static parts. Bonus points because it'll be harder for guards to identify a complex weapon if it's unfinished and unusable without a shapeshifting weapon they've never even heard of!

For instance, we could buy the appropriate enchantments to simulate a motor (higher energy cost but whatever), and then turn Bolek into a jagged-edge sword with easy-attachment handles, and now we have an automatic hacksaw weapon! Since Bolek can shapeshift, any damage done to the flimsy jade teeth can be repaired instantly!

>>825421
Wear a Poncho with emerald laced pockets.

Definitely go for the light/sneaky approach for clothing. Have some type of armor undershirt. As for the logo have some type of strong animal on it. Mayhap a eagle/griffin/tiger/lion/ect.

Questdis would be nice

Would be nice to have a sigil of our own.. But a bit early, something that doesn't stand out would be fine, you'll want something comfortable but durable for a trip like this.. Though I am liking 24caf8's idea.

maybe this for the icon with the talismans and the sword

Suggestion 2017/08/27(Sun)11:16 No. 825486 ID: 9b80a5
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oops i forgot to put the picture in

try to get a gamberson tunic, you know what it is right? its like a long coat but made with 10-20 (i think) layers of linen/wool and was amazing at stopping cuts stabs and blunt force trauma.
also if you want to can put like chain mail or plated parts over it and be the juggernaut (bitch)

(im the)*

>>825420
>I have no idea what GUNPOWDER or BLACK POWDER any of those things are.

Most of the strange things we were talking about would take a long time to explain.

Black Powder is a mixture of Charcoal, Sulfur, and Saltpeter that explodes. It's extremely useful and extremely dangerous in the right hands.

It's one of those secrets that will get you killed if the wrong people know you know, but if you can get your hands the ingredients, you can make some terrifying weapons with it.

in hindsight that emblem looks like a gross bug and not 7 talismans and a copy/pasted sword on both sides

Why don't we just get a dragon as our symbol?

It's a classic and you can't go wrong with that! Plus, the drake might be more willing to talk to us if we have a dragon as our symbol.

>>825486
Dragon, Dragon! Rock the Dragon! Dragon Ball Z!

Suggestion 2017/09/02(Sat)06:00 No. 827066 ID: 9dc26d
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>>825424
This is good, but... check out that shirt over there!

Get that, it looks good. And most people wouldn't realize what it is, besides the funny dye job.

But put a cuirass over it too. Just in case. And wear baggy pants or something, so you can move quickly.