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Hi I re-read Maybecat and it made me cry again, thanks

Alright I came up with some ideas for battle.

One, we can use Dad as a combat booster. Have her order her teammates to "fight bravely" and "feel no pain".
Two, I think we can abuse autobalance to create things in Spit's base. However, we'll have to be in spit's base or at least at the entrance for this to be useful. So like, we could create something powerful but easily used by the enemy, and Spit would automatically get it placed in her base. We had no confirmation check for receiving the knife, so Spit won't get one either. A disadvantage of this is that Wax will get pissed at us for exploiting game mechanics.

...wait, what's stopping Dad from just ordering the enemy TCPs to go rogue?

>>128534
Nothing, I think, except the health cost of using her ability.

>>128567
She didn't use up any health when we tried using it on Primus.

>>128534
Using it normally just makes them feel strongly like they want to, but it isn't irresistible. That doesn't use health. Using it with the wand makes it cost health, but seems to turn it into an overriding compulsion.

It's a little unclear whether Dad has to do it deliberately to get the normal effect or if it's just always on. If it is always on, I wonder if Dad had an effect on Devil, just there.

HEY I HAVE A GROSS QUESTION

Is a TCP's central consciousness attached to their head? Like, if you cut off a TCP's head during a Session, what part loses sensation? Could you then heal the TCP by feeding its head?

Also, do Kill commands have a max effective distance? Do they require line of sight to instantly kill a 0-hp TCP?

Alright, play time's over. The date's been fun but we're not gonna win like this. We need to enact a game plan as soon as Jasper, Dad and Primus get back home.

And as for the plan itself...

Group teaching skill dump. So far, nothing suggests that teaching your TCp's triggers autobalance and we should abuse the hell out of this. We're probably gonna have to come up with a uniform list, but any skills that will help with off-setting Spit's psychological terror bullshit will help immensely.

And after that we make...

nothing. No magic items. The only thing we can make is structure related because even with the poorly understood forcefield our base is ass.

After the group skill dump, we should just go out and FIND SHIT. Since whatever we find wasn't made by ourselves, it won't trigger autobalance. That'll be a huge leg up. If we do this and hopefully find something really good then we can start scouting and maybe even raiding Spit's fortress.

Alright, play time's over. The date's been fun but we're not gonna win like this. We need to enact a game plan as soon as Jasper, Dad and Primus get back home.

And as for the plan itself...

Group teaching skill dump. So far, nothing suggests that teaching your TCp's triggers autobalance and we should abuse the hell out of this. We're probably gonna have to come up with a uniform list, but any skills that will help with off-setting Spit's psychological terror bullshit will help immensely.

And after that we make...

nothing. No magic items. The only thing we can make is structure related because even with the poorly understood forcefield our base is ass.

After the group skill dump, we should just go out and FIND SHIT. Since whatever we find wasn't made by ourselves, it won't trigger autobalance. That'll be a huge leg up. If we do this and hopefully find something really good then we can start scouting and maybe even raiding Spit's fortress.

Wasn't there some drawback to teaching a TCP a bunch of stuff? Other than the information overload of doing it all at once?

It's a bad idea just for the information overload. TEACHing should be done sparingly, or for simple things that are hard to explain.

Dumping a lot of skills on a TCP at once is very distressing for them.

>>128790
We don't have to give them the entire skillset all at once. We can teach them in segments.

It has been suggested in the past that the more skills a TCP is taught, the less they are able to specialize or focus on a given skillset.

We still need to teach them something so that they don't immediately fall to pieces when confronted with trauma, physical or otherwise. We almost lost Jasper due to this.

>>128797
My suggestion is we teach them "pain management" and "fear management". Those are both real skills that people can develop. They don't interfere in what you feel, just how well you deal with it.

We might have already taught someone something similar? It probably wouldn't hurt, though. If we'd taught them both those things before now, they'd have reacted like "woah wait what why are you teaching me those i'm worried now" but after this, they'll get it.

>>128799
We taught some of them skills to help others cope with such things.

so uh stupid idea. can we put the magic hat on the voidsy mask to power up the mask? so like we can make full connections to other people's TCPs?

another, hopefully, less stupid idea, magic items whos user is us as gods, with the target of friend and foe TCPs such that imposing the cost on the target would make it far more effective as a weapon than whatever it was originally supposed to do and since we as a god are the user what cost can it even impose on us? (that last bit tempts fate I know, but could shed light on Spit's methods)

>>128807
Creating items outside of the game autobalances it to everybody. So if Spit did this to attack our TCPs, we would have the same item in our godspace. It's more likely she has a sniper of some sort.

>>128810
Correction: creating POWERFUL items outside the game triggers autobalance and gives it to the other team(s).

>>128810
I was thinking an ingame item, not a callspace (I think we effectively exist only in the call) item. This probably means one of its traits is the ability to focus on it as a god like we do our TCPs. Would get weird fast if its ability is to look at other things though

Another idea I feel is worth sharing: Motif Detector Projector Boxes. MDPBs.
The two we would care about would be the space and the void projectors, but we would need a mask projector to prove the idea works. The boxes attempt to make as big a projection of space/a mask/void as possible but without a motif boost can only make one as big as the box, thus if the projection is bigger than the box it must be boosted.
To make sure these boxes have no cost (or minimize it at least) the boxes should be always on and it should be obvious they are a projection. (my idea was how things look when you can only see them with one eye but not the other, or for images every other pixel and the projection has transparency)
The Mask and Space MDPBs' can work as expected for a 3D projection, but the Void MDPB needs to project things being not present. As such I think an explanation on how this could be accomplished is necessary, without making the detector an x-ray type device.
The visual changes caused by the Void MDPB will have the same appearance as the other two but all that is seen 'through' an object will just be what the viewer expects to see. Things where the viewer has no idea what to expect seeing (I.E. trying to look through a wall or inside a TCP) will likely just be uncomfortable to look at, and/or akin to where you can understand what a thing is in a dream without it having an actual describable form.

Okay hold up, which sessions are NOT canceled at this point?

>>128815
void session, pre alpha and arcade sessions are active, everything else is cancelled

>>128817 Interesting that pre-alpha is still running. I heard it is here on TG but can not find it linked to you or TCP on the wiki.

https://tgchan.org/wiki/Tiny_Cat_People_(prealpha_v1.1.0b) bwoop, it's on hiatus

>>128817
Ok cool, that was what I thought.

Hey with the teaching idea.
What if we make just a piece of paper with a list of all skills we think could be at all useful to this situation, and then just let our tcps choose which ones they want to learn, then TEACH them that skill? I feel like that would make sure we don't overload our tcps while also giving them everything they think would be useful.

thanks, Mortis that was a wonderful laugh that pre-alpha session, too bad our void session form was not fog-of-war though, spit would never get to eat us then (assuming physical contact is involved) we would always at best be at the edge of her vision =P
would be interesting if we could give some of our powers to our TCPs in void session, though that would almost certainly cause an instant autobalance notification.
losing the create power in pre-alpha is kinda rough though, necessary power limits are very much NOT in place in pre-alpha, feels like we could create a thing to just like steal the tower, remove everyone else's land, raise the sea level, or what have you. I can see why you stopped. Watching things go about as I might expect was great fun to read through.

>>128834
oh i dont run pre-alpha! i just run void session, our team member duke runs pre-alpha + knux400 runs arcade, i just assist here and there on both

mortis 2019/04/09(Tue)21:27 No. 129057 ID: 53b212
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the new TCPdex is LIVE!

Huh, I just realized that rescuing Marvel via dismemberment wouldn't cause much suffering at all, as Marvel doesn't feel pain. Marvel might even do their own surgery, keeping one arm on during travel.
Doesn't the Spit mask we made also do that? If Seaspray wants an evac like that we can use it.

>>129207
Honestly, this is probably our best bet for un-fucking the current situation.

it's gonna be absolutely horrifying to Buddy and Jasper, but it's probably the safest option for getting Marvel out of Spit's fuck-off fort.

And probably Seaspray as well, but the health oddity is... pretty fucking worrying. I dunno if it'd be safe for anyone to physically touch her at all. Not even a little to give her a health potion or two before we start removing the hooks holding her up.

If you ask me, Spit healed Seaspray just to wake them up so they could be tortured.

>>129214
Uh.

I'd like to point out a few things.

one: by exact definition, everything that has been inflicted onto seaspray since she went on recon with Marvel and Jasper has been torture. ALL OF IT.

two: as mentioned and even been previously established, fucking with TCP's health and whatever else is Spit's bread and butter. even artificially raising seaspray's health like this probably has some terrible consequence to it.

and three: What makes you think that the torture ever stopped? Seaspray has been pinned to a god damn wall and I bet it's gonna cost that extra, artificial health to remove her from it (unless we can give her a potion first)

>>129207
remember though that
>damage to body can permanently affect mental health + functionality >>/quest/881003
so we still need to be careful with that plan. we probably need him awake to tell us if we can even do that plan safely.

>>129217
we need him to be conscious and coherent anyway.

Maybe if we're lucky, he can just... not control the areas that would be left behind when he's sized down to fit through the bag?

>>129218
Marvel is made of brain though, losing some of your brain is generally bad, regardless of why

>>129219
I acknowledge your point, but you still refuse to acknowledge mine and the other anon's point that being subjected to Spit's machinations are FAR worse because as we all know, her motifs are not sunshine and rainbows.

Yes, it's going to suck even worse to have to do this to Marvel. He might not ever recover, even! But the alternatives, given that we don't know where the damn exit is and are comparatively under armed and outnumbered in Spit's murderfort, are exponentially worse.

>>129221 I do not disagree but did want to make sure expected consequences were known

>>129217
Oh dear. We really shouldn't do that then, unless the mental effects are reversible after damage is repaired.

>>129232
Marvel's already on 0 HP, though. Anything we do at this point, though admittedly a terrible option in and of itself, is still better than any OTHER options we pursue for extracting Marvel. (We're not fighting our way out of Spit's trap filled and possibly labyrinthine base with the current party in such dire straits)

>>129233
>Marvel's already on 0 HP
I don't know where you got that, since we can only see the HP of our TCPs and Marvel isn't one of our TCPs.

We don't know what Marvel's current health is at.

>>129234
I know this bit of information because Eastwood announced it immediately after the three of them got shot out of the sky.

"VOIDSY: Miller?!
VOIDSY: Miller, what’s going on, Jasper’s health just dropped to-
MILLER: Seaspray, Seaspray’s…
EASTWOOD: ..critical.
MILLER: How did you-
EASTWOOD: Marvel’s down to 0 too."

mortis 2019/04/30(Tue)19:46 No. 129299 ID: 53b212
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http://crankshaftrafflesian.webcomic.ws/comics/1

plugging our team member (+ my wonderful partner) Comorant's comic real quick- Crankshaft Rafflesian has been properly rebooted for a bit now and is well enough in that there's a nice meaty backlog for new readers to chomp on. it's a surreal slice of life with robots! everybody loves robots.

narration/dialogue is underneath the images- we're working on changing the layout to make it a bit more readable/noticeable!

our twitter is a great place to track updates:
https://twitter.com/homebrewdeviant

>>127499
Personally I think Voidsy is an identity being worn, but it's less being worn by emptiness and more being worn to disguise and smooth over the fact that they are a collective.
It allows them to harmonize themselves and actually act like they are a person instead of a group.
I imagine under the mask is something making their nature as a collective more obvious, like a hole with a mass of voices speaking over each other leaking out or numerous smaller faces melted together.

mortis 2019/06/02(Sun)15:45 No. 129569 ID: 53b212
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popping in to
1) apologize for sporadic updates, life has been Weird on my end
2) announce that our official forums are now publicly advertised! you can find more info here:
https://twitter.com/homebrewdeviant/status/1135314342063116289

a pretty major (but optional to understanding the canon) story about wretch is planned for release there when it's done, so i figure it's good to advertise in advance!

(pic is our lovely TCP mascot, designed by the forum-goers)

>>129569
>(pic is our lovely TCP mascot, designed by the forum-goers)
Yes, your mascot is indeed lovely! What is its name?

>>129570
we haven't had a vote on it yet because i am busier than i'd like, but we're gonna do that real soon