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111417 No. 111417 ID: d1d42a

Thread for discussing King of Pentacles
https://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/780786.html

numerous questions and complaints have been voiced
probably best to have them answered outside of quest
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No. 129125 ID: 8275cf

>>129124
Reefa is 27
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No. 129150 ID: 094652

To the undead travelers, is your hunger separate from your power source? Have you considered magic surgery to reconnect the part of you that induces horror hunger into something... more lively? Lots of dancing especially in the pelvic area perhaps?
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No. 129183 ID: daa216

Afraid questions like that require coin kome.
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No. 129184 ID: 8275cf

>>129150
>>129183
it's true I will reserve in character responses to patron donation.
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No. 129185 ID: b9ddbd

I appreciate Garcio's penis.
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No. 129241 ID: addb1a

>>129185
I do very much as well. I wonder how long he amd Garrin are
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No. 129246 ID: 8275cf

>>129185
>>129241
I'm glad you enjoyed the fanservice!
special thanks go to one of my generous patrons who paid for the extra panel!

>I wonder how long he amd Garrin are
Garcio is about 8", as for Garrin we'll have to wait and see . . .
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No. 129247 ID: 54c395

>>129246
Darn I was hoping you’d tell us Garrin’s size. I can’t wait to see his peen in its full glory
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No. 129249 ID: daa216

And dont forget, if you give LW your coin,we get more pages a month. (That means faster peen reveals!)
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No. 129257 ID: 8275cf

>>129249
it's true! at the next milestone I'll be adding a minimum of 8 panels a month!

but that's just the minimum! for every dollar donated I add 5 minutes to my monthly KoP quota, that I spend exclusively on King of pentacles content!
however I end up going over quota almost every month because I just love drawing my quests!

and since I can never say it enough, a huge thanks to all my super generous patrons who've kept this ball rolling with dedicated support!
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No. 129320 ID: daa216

I know people are changing their votes over the tail position of the scorpion but I'd like to point out the other times we've seen it, it is in that position. I dont think we're really in danger.
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No. 129323 ID: 8275cf

>>129320
that's correct Xiatzu's tail curls even when at rest.

however if she WERE to strike it it would be in the same position
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No. 129327 ID: 8275cf
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129327

how the goblins in King of Pentacles will loo
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No. 129328 ID: daa216

Those clothes sure look sturdy.
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No. 129329 ID: eeb7d9

>>129328
They are goblins, you can't expect much from them. Look, they can't even match boots or gloves!
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No. 129332 ID: 54c395

I hope everyone voting B doesn’t bring about anything bad lol. I’d usually totally for lewding Garrin but I’ve got a bad feeling about the situation
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No. 129333 ID: 9876c4

>>129332
If we're going to stand a chance against those undead hordes, we must first stake Cockblocula.
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No. 129335 ID: daa216

Well it looks like A won that one so lets hope its not a false alarm.
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No. 129363 ID: 54c395

The suspense is killing me for this update
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No. 129365 ID: 8275cf

>>129363
update is being worked on!
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No. 129368 ID: 54c395

>>129365
I’m very excited woo!
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No. 129519 ID: 8275cf

sorry the update took so long, it's been a crazy busy month for me
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No. 129521 ID: 9876c4

>>129519
I appreciate the update, even if it's not the one some of us wanted.

Keep dangling that ecchi, and someday we'll seize it!
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No. 129527 ID: 54c395

Is that a boner I see in garrins underwear lol
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No. 129531 ID: 8275cf

>>129521
that's the spirit!

>>129527
maybe . . .
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No. 129533 ID: 54c395

>>129531
Heheh wonder if garrin will be pleasuring himself to the memory of the close encounter when he’s done with his mission
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No. 129534 ID: 8275cf
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129534

Icker and Xiatzu stripped at a dance

brought to you by a generous patron!
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No. 129565 ID: 8275cf

Firstly I'd like to thank all my extraordinary and generous Patrons for everything they've done for me.
in addition to all my public readers who enjoy my quests.

My patreon sadly is in decline. I have to wonder if this quest has over stayed it's welcome or whether interest is simply waning.

I've made no decisions thus far, but if thing continue to decline I may have to make changes.
these changes could range anywhere from adjusting my patreon to working the quest to a satisfactory ending this year.

again I have made no decisions and would greatly appreciate and feedback on this situation
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No. 129566 ID: 322af8

All things need to come to an end at some point. Don't fret and remember the fun we all had here.
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No. 129568 ID: 8275cf

>>129566
thank you for your participation, but you seem to have missed my meaning.

I have made no decisions regarding the future of this quest, I have not decided to end the quest.I am only considering options and curious as to my audiences thoughts on what could be done and how.
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No. 129571 ID: 91ee5f

>>129565
>My patreon sadly is in decline.
Doesn’t Patreon have a system where people need to renew their subscription or whatever it’s called?

Maybe some people haven’t realized that they need to resubscribe and that’s what’s going on?
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No. 129572 ID: 54c395

>>129565
Maybe adding more nsfw scenes would attract more people there was a heavy incline of replies right when Garrin was with Xiatzu
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No. 129573 ID: 9876c4

>>129568
Maybe there was a misconception that people were funding guaranteed smut rather than the interactive text adventure this is.

You haven't hit a high point with these characters yet like a major stripfight, or the bombing of the bridge. Maybe people are feeling antsy.

I don't think you should change how you do things to better monetize them, though.
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No. 129574 ID: 8275cf

>>129571
Patreon payments are automatic, and the declines were not accidental

>>129572
I have noticed a steady incline of suggestions, which I am very happy about.
I love how much people seem to being enjoying participating in my quest.
however I've not noticed any increase of patronage with lewd content.
many of my existing patron seem more interested in the stories, characters and designs.

>>129573
I feel it's very important to allow the suggesters to guide the story, but from everything I've seen my suggesters and patrons are largely on the same page, wanting less lewd content rather than more.
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No. 129575 ID: eeb7d9

>>129574
Huh, that is unexpected...
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No. 129586 ID: 54c395

>>129574
It’s less I don’t want lewd content it’s just that whenever a possibility for something nsfw comes up it stands as a risk towards our character
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No. 129589 ID: 8275cf

>>129586
I want to encourage risk taking, being too risk averse leads to a very boring story.
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No. 129591 ID: 864e49

>>129589
Be an asshole, got it!
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No. 129593 ID: 8275cf

>>129591
I think you misunderstand
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No. 129595 ID: 73e698

>>129589
That's something you might want to think about in the future, then. I'm not too sure if it applies as directly as I think it it does to King of Pentacles specifically, or if I'm carrying over a feeling that I got from other quests of yours I read before, but it seems like it's common to come out of an encounter with a sense of "this isn't the best result you could have gotten, you didn't make great decisions", which is something that'll teach suggesters to be more paranoid.

Like, I can't remember much in the way of story points that had a feeling of "yes, you did great, good job!" Maybe it's something inherent to the overall story and tone you're going for, so it might not be easy or simple to avoid, but it rarely feels like the characters (and therefore the readers) have a reason to be happy or feel good about themselves without some sort of "but" hanging over it.

So you might want to either include more "oh, I did well!" moments, or make it clearer what bad consequences are being avoided.
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No. 129596 ID: 8275cf

>>129595
the thing is that is incredibly difficult
King of Pentacles is not a game you can "win" or "lose"
both of those entirely depend on what the individual suggester wants out of the story
for me to congratulate them on doing very well there needs to be some ultimate objective
there isn't.
typically following Kalez' orders will be the normal guideline, but she'll be controllable in many segments as well, and thus her orders are also largely determined by suggestor choice.

however if an individual wants "X" out of the quest I can tell them how good of a job their doing achieving "X".
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No. 129597 ID: 8275cf

for what it's worth, I am very happy with how the story is unfolding! so I think everyone is doing a great job!

. . . as long as other people are happy
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No. 129599 ID: 73e698

>>129596
I think you've taken what I said as a broader judgement than I really meant it. It's not so much the larger goal or the overall progress or lack thereof, but more the encounter-to-encounter stuff that I'm talking about. How well did the fight go for Kalez' minions, how well did her meeting with Vivian go for her, is anything Garrin's been doing meaningful? Obviously things are happening and the suggesters are making decisions that make things happen, but there's often some sort of vague feeling we could have done better, or that we stumbled past what we were actually supposed to do... or maybe we didn't? We don't know? It's the not knowing that's the problem. Just to be clear, it's not that big a problem, I'm probably making it sound worse because of how I'm trying to explain it. I'm trying to pin down something that's just a shadow of a feeling to me.

You're right about stuff depending on what people want out of the quest, but at the same time there are some things you can assume. If our player character gets in a fight, we want to win. If they're given a challenge to overcome we want to overcome it. Absolutely you want people to have control over where everything's going, and to make decisions for themselves, but if there isn't any direction at all, and you have different factions of suggesters who want different things (which seems very likely in this quest, from what moral standpoint you want to take, to who you want to ship with who, to story vs. lewds, which character specifically you want to see, etc), then you can end up with a feeling that the quest and the suggesters are just sort of staggering drunkenly through everything never quite fully doing one thing or the other. We make suggestions and then things happen, but what's the connection between what happens and what we intended, or wanted? Can there be any, if different suggesters intended and wanted different things?

It might just be a thing I'm getting. You'd need to ask if anyone else feels anything similar to this before you give it any credit.
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No. 129605 ID: 8275cf

>>129599
I'm afraid you've lost me with most of what you're talking about.

I have no idea how you would have me improve my quest

nor even what is even the problem, truly.

how successful was the battle in the first chapter? beyond being a victory? I don't know tally the pros and cons I guess.
how successful was the meeting with Vivian? she made an offer the suggestors refused. is that not clear? did you want something else of her?
How Meaningful have Garrin's actions been? meaningfull in what way and to who? I thought the Princess' safety had clear purpose.

I can't stop you from imagining superior outcomes, but I don't know them, only different outcomes all with different potentials and hooks
I could tell you as many as I considered, but that would be less than half of what is possible, since most outcomes I never considered.

I'm sorry you feel things lack direction, but either I don't see that or don't understand what you mean.

if you have a specific questions, a specific problem, or a specific thing you'd like me to change
perhaps I can better accommodate you.
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No. 129608 ID: 68a433

>>129605
I'm pretty sure I'm explaining things badly, but I'm not sure I can think of a better way to put it. It's just that when we come out the other end of any particular "scene" in the quest, I can get this feeling that things happened, but not so much that things were accomplished? Most scenes, when I consider suggesting, I feel like I should try to be, like... sensible. Not to think too much outside the box, because what'll get chosen is probably going to be something more expectable. Obviously being sensible is good, but it can also start feeling a little uncolourful if it goes on too long. It might be that the characters themselves, personality-wise, mostly seem like they're not the types that would come up with or go along with more unusual ideas.

It's also possible that I just haven't invested myself enough. I read the quest whenever I see it's updated, and I suggest now and then, but I don't have any strong feelings about what I want to see happen eventually, so I don't have a point of reference for how I should feel about the outcome of whatever's going on at that moment. All that I have to think about is the scene at hand, so if there's not much to think about in for that scene then I feel like the quest isn't asking me to think much in general. On top of that, it might be leaning my motivation more to "I want to try and pick the best answer" when the thing that decides what's best (contribution to a long-term goal) doesn't actually exist in my case. Like I'm looking at the choices too much as puzzles to be solved in themselves rather than as steps to something else. So it's very likely that all my problems are just me.

It's still a good quest!
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No. 129609 ID: 8275cf
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129609

>>129608
I'm glad you're at least enjoying the quest!

here's a picture of Icker redundantly dressed as a Bee!
she seems pretty okay with this costume.
or she's just more agreeable when her belly is full of honey.

Picture suggested by one of my generous patrons!
>>128902
based on bee outfit suggested here
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No. 129616 ID: 9876c4

>>129609
Multipants
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No. 129619 ID: 322af8

An answer to the age old question of how a bee would wear pants.
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No. 129651 ID: 8275cf
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129651

A Sequel to this bonus
>>126512

Rolita has come out on top!
presenting her defeated opponent Eeyfel
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No. 129667 ID: 54c395

>>129651
A nude Eeyfel? Don’t mind if I do lol
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