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124805 No. 124805 ID: 270774

i don't like em puttin chemicals in the water that turn the frickin frogs gay
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No. 127286 ID: 465a14

http://marshmallowsweetheart.tumblr.com/post/181965485384/surroundedbyselcouth-jeneelestrange

important vampire discourse add me to the tvrn discord so I can @everyone with this

or at least @here
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No. 127304 ID: d8720c

>>127280
FRACTAL's DnD character
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>>127280
>>127304
correct - my dnd character who ALSO makes a brief cameo in the tvrn spinoff, hence people asking abt his vampiric affinity. >>/quest/909489/

>>127286
sorry but i'm kind of an extremely neurotic bitch about who can get into direct contact w me via discord so your best bet is to follow request my locked art twitter, @beat0meat. if i can confirm with my eyeballs that you're over 18 and also if based on my own extensive neurosis you don't seem like someone who will get on my nerves, i'll probably confirm the req, and the link to the discord is floating around on there. again, sorry that i'm Like That, but i have wacky intense boundaries on the internet
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No. 127328 ID: 465a14

>>127327
dw i assumed there was no tvrn discord, it was a shitpost all along
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No. 127373 ID: 270774

time for.... more crossposting

>what's the 'template' of regeneration? will a person with a broken limb have it fully healed when they become a vampire? what about more permanent things like lower-body paralysis, or brain damage? does regeneration pull from some template in the DNA?
any injuries you had before you were turned that wouldn’t have healed by human standards will not heal — i.e. if the vampire who turned you broke your arm in the attack, that will heal. but if you already had, for example, a limp, or if you were visually impaired, or even little things like scars — anything that would be permanent by human standards — those things won’t go away. this also means if a vampire rips your arm off while turning you, uhhhh, it’s gone, and that’s the basis your undead body will always return to in terms of regeneration/healing bc it was gone while you were still human, soooo. be careful guys!!!

>what if someone puts a vampire in a blender. can they recover
no because that counts as simultaneous destruction of the head and heart. if you put everything but their head in a blender they’d be fine but very irritated with you

>Can Ricardo dance? He can't, can he?
he absolutely cannot.

>do vampire dens Have to be location based? can there be like. internet clique vampire dens. tumblr kinnies with duel rules about killing doubles. a den of vampires still on usenet for some reason. obscure almost-forgotten forum vampire den
oh there’s for sure online covens. DENS are location based but [2010s vampire voice] Found Coven

>If you did something horrible to solid food, like put a hamburger in a blender with some water, could a vampire eat that? Soup, I guess I'm saying
why do yuo guys ask me such horrible things

>If a shifters animal form is covered completely covered in feathers/fur, for example a crow, are they more resistant to sunlight? (other than exposed areas and eyes, of course)
nope!! same old same old

>if a vampire put on sunscreen would that help?
nope! the sunlight weakness is a Magicky thing more than a physical thing

>Do vampires ever shift their dicks to be bad fanfic proportions? Like 18 inches and stuff
of course they do

>is a vampire wearing silver jewelry seen as really badass or really dumbass?
extremely dumbass and also over time it would just burn a jewelry-shaped trough in you (wearing a cross or other religious emblem if you’re religious isn’t seen in the same way since it’s 1. not as physically harmful and 2. is understood as a choice irt deep personal values instead of just ‘welcome to jackass’)

>Would minmin ever ship a vampire with another type of monster, or is his matchmaking career strictly limited to vampire and vampire relationships, either by personal decision or familial tradition/law? Vamp/Jiangshi/Werewolf/Swamp Thing is taboo
career-wise his job is vampires only — actually his job is Political matches only, and he bends the rules 1. for extra money and 2. bc his sire, naotaro, is not a traditionalist and has been slowly pushing the higuchi line away from rigid political matchmaking for the past two centuries, and not without opposition, because of his [older vampire voice] Radical views on marrying for love. aside from that in just a general sense, you would be very hard pressed to find another monster who Wants to be with a vampire. they are not well liked. but it happens!

>How many vampires go to Halloween parties in cheesy vampire costumes?
tons of them. this is something that is considered universally funny in vampire culture

>are we going to meet any werewolves in tvrn?
i dunno. are you?

>Maybe a weird thing to ask, but it's been bugging me. Why can't modern vampires see their reflection? I know the thing use to be because mirrors were made with silver and silver repels the undead/evil so it wouldn't even show their reflection. Today most mirrors are made with aluminum since it's cheaper.
because it’s cool

>How wild did vampires get when they realized they could videotape having sex and watch themselves for the first time
vampires realizing they showed up in video at all was just a fucking circus bc it was their first opportunity to observe themselves in motion since they were turned (so most older vampires at that point had completely forgotten what they looked like in motion.) u know how you’ll be admiring yourself in the mirror but none of the selfies turn out, bc u just look that much better in motion? imagine not having that, for CENTURIES. but also yeah it took them abt two seconds to point it at fuck, too

>Do TVRN vampires know what vore is and do they consider what they do as vore???? The people need to know :O
i mean vampires who use the internet a lot know. and they don’t think it counts but if they Know what vore is then obviously they joke about it

>Hey if vampires can't eat solid food, can they eat ass. Also did swallowing Ricardo's c*m really give Pascal vamp indigestion or was that just a taste thing
it was just a taste thing and of COURSE they can eat ass. what would be the point of vampires who don’t eat ass

>are there any vampires who just don’t *like* eating ass?
no

>i know you’ve said all cryptids and supernatural creatures exist in tvrn, but what about witches (or any human practitioners of magic, or a magic system in general?)
there is a magic system that humans, fae, and dragons can access but it’s almost certainly going to come up in the vegas arc so i won’t say anything about it. vampires no longer count as humans

>will we get to fuck a dragon
are you going to go and make them hunt down a dragon you horny little fool

>Will there be any M/F pairings in TVRN?
profoundly unlikely

>Does any tvrn species (vampires, mermaids...) have magical soulmate bonds? Or is it all regular soulmate bonds i.e. communication and listening skills?
i hate soulmate aus and everything related to them fjdkfjdj so yeah it’s all Communication and they all have just as much difficulty with it as humans do. except for bigfoots whose communities are built on compassion and active listening and have the lowest divorce rate of any species in the universe

>did u name pascal pascal bc a pascal is an unit of internal pressure/stress? 🤔
no i named pascal pascal because it’s cute and he’s half french. but that’s a cool theory and you’re free to continue believing that i’m that smart if you want

>So what do we have to do if we want to see Bunji naked
i consulted sunny about this and she said either you have to endure a threesome with him and minmin or bond with him enough that he wants to do old man shit with ricardo like. go to a public bath/sauna or something

the other thing you all missed in my anon inbox is someone tried to argue that giving a vampire from transylvania a sesame street count von count accent perpetuates offensive stereotypes and they were being literally one billion percent serious. i do an immense service by combing through these and only crossposting the good stuff
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No. 127376 ID: bb78f2

I know you said the shapeshifting rules only really allowed for existing biological creatures and not objects, but after you mentioned The Count, in my heart and soul, I want nothing more than to meet a shifter who can turn into a felt puppet The Count.
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No. 127378 ID: 465a14

re:mirrors I hate to be this guy but ACKSHUALLY it was never because of silver, it's not like the dirtfuck peasants passing these superstitions around could afford the silver for a fancy-ass mirror, it's just because of superstitions about reflections and the soul and OBVIOUSLY vampires are soulless monsters so it's actually more historically correct for a vampire not to have any sort of reflection at all
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No. 127386 ID: 0e2ebe

>>127376
??? Muppets are people
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No. 127418 ID: 270774
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how i feel when im drawing a TVRN update vs how i actually look
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No. 127419 ID: 270774
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anyway yaaaaaay we did it
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No. 127420 ID: 255b3c

>>127418
>>127419

Congrats on balls in the shot I always believed you could pull it off my dude
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No. 127451 ID: bb78f2

Hey fractal, if your vampires were real, and it became publiccally known they were real, what would you want humanity to do with that knowledge? Legally? Should it be legal right for vampires to feed?

Supernatural creatures legal rights and status in todays society keeps me up at night. Is a werewolf legally resposible for any murders they commit under a feral transformation? If a boy with latent paychic powers kills someone by accidentally releasing them, should they be charged with manslaughter?
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No. 127453 ID: 270774

>>127451
if my vampires were real i would want them to come fuck me to death and then i wouldn’t have to worry about any of the technical shit
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No. 127454 ID: 270774
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No. 127470 ID: 158da5

>>127454
I feel like there's few insults that compare to telling a vampire to swim.
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No. 127477 ID: 270774
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im actually cranky that you guys excelled so much at securing a safe escape for ricardo and pascal bc it means rex and jonquil won't be relevant for ages now. so i'm tiding myself over by drawing porn
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No. 127478 ID: 270774
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like, a lot of it
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No. 127479 ID: 270774
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with like, all of my spare time
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No. 127480 ID: 270774
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you know how it is. also behold my COMPLETELY inconsistent file naming
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No. 127549 ID: 158da5

>>127546
Gotta have that toe blood tbh
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No. 127574 ID: 270774

>>127546
>>127549
pleased to report that there are absolutely zero vampires in tvrn who suck toes

anyway, mini announcement, updates are gonna slow down for a bit bc im too hyped about jojo’s bizarre adventure to live or breathe and the only thing that soothes the beast within my chest is churning out endless pages of doujin about evil mafia men tragically in love so i’m doing that for a bit. i’ll come back when i wear myself out a little bit and also when said gay mafia villains are all dead and i thereby stop caring about the rest of the season
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No. 127832 ID: 270774
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hey so uhhh a patreon is a thing that's finally happening https://www.patreon.com/iraprince
no aspects of my quests are actually being monetized besides a stretch goal to start a new one; nothing is really changing. but i have some cool goodies on here like behind the scenes stuff and downloads of my digital sketchbooks, polls for bonus content, and my favorite tier which is embarrassing love notes each month from your fav fractal quest characters
check it out if u want!
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No. 127834 ID: 270774

also im behind on lore crossposts again

>has anyone ever asked about the effects of garlic in the tvrn universe
pascal mentions super briefly that garlic superstition is ridiculous but jokes on him bc if he ever ate a clove he sure would throw up. that counts

>was there a better way to handle the oyabun situation? what about a worse way?
there were ABSOLUTELY worse ways. being openly defiant or combative to her would have gone very badly. as for better.... mmm it’s hard to say. we haven’t really seen the full consequences/changes that have come from the way that situation was handled yet, or how it’s changed the dynamic between chidori and nanako yet. things could have gone very Differently but it’s hard to say whether a different outcome would objectively be better or worse

>can i ask how your style developed so that character noses are a sometimes thing? i cannot phrase it in a way that doesnt sound wrong in some way but i legitimately am curious dont think its bad arent judging u (i know the anime stigma in art circles)
i think it was that in visual shorthand (if it’s a distance model, if i’m just doodling) i never put noses on them and then i just ended up realizing i thought it was really cute like that even in more detailed drawings. now for me actually drawing noses is just a tool to communicate the angle of the face if needed

>Do buff vampires need to have muscles or is it all magic? Do they need to work out and pump iron or are they just, vampire?
it’s both! if two vampires both have the power affinity, are the same general age, and have both fed at around the same time — so basically, if all the Vampire Magic is on equal footing — the person who has done more physical training is going to be stronger, so vampires who are Serious Duelists put time and effort into their bodies too.

>Is there any way to stop being a vampire, other than death?
nope! you’re in it for the long haul! it wouldn’t be horror otherwise!

>so eastern europe took ages to adopt the gregorian calendar so pascal probably grew up using the old julian calendar and he doens't seem like the type to learn the new one. so can pascal tell the date. does he know what day it is
[holding my head in my hands] oh my god. oh my god you’re right. he wouldn’t learn it. he wouldn’t care. he doesn’t know what day it is

>can vampires turn animals to be vampires? logistically i realize that this would be a terrible thing to do, the animals would kill without thinking of not being discovered, etc etc, but I also feel like maybe some vampires would try to do it without considering the consequences
nope, only humans can be turned into vampires! this extends to any other sapient creatures in the tvrn universe — humans ONLY, all the way down

>would you be willing to say what the known oldest vampires age is? or like a ballpark? We know pascal is young and ricardo is baby, but how old is old as shit in tvrn?
the oldest vampire that we’ll probably meet in tvrn is like, 5000, and that’s old as SHIT. a vampire like kel in the 1300-ish range is considered, like, Established and Competent and Cool. a vampire who’s like 400-500 like bunji is respectable. a vampire who’s 250-ish like pascal is considered Just old enough to take seriously

>wait do vampires feed off of like. sirens/bigfeet/werewolves/other vampires? like can they do that instead of humans. like all the many issues with that aside
they Could feed off other sapient creatures but the taste is Off, and also other creatures are generally much more able to defend themselves so there’s no reason for them to put in the extra effort. as pascal has mentioned briefly, they do kill other creatures for territory, though. vampires feeding on other vampires is something that needs to be explored in the thread!

>i hope this isn't spoilers but... do the old as shit vampires actually remember all their life? or even a 1000yo vampire. like, that's a Lot of years to be alive. does their memory kind of start to deteriorate after a while?
it’s not really spoilers! it depends on the vampire. kel’s got shit pretty together but she doesn’t sweat the details; the 5000 y/o vamp i mentioned remembers Everything. a lot of it hinges on how much you Want to remember

>how does pascal feel about slime videos
he hasn’t discovered them yet but when he does he’s going to go fucking apeshit and by apeshit i mean “laying on the couch watching them for hours at a time bc he has depression”

>If you like dipped a chicken nugget in blood could a vamp eat it and not throw up? If a hamburger is bloody enough but literally and unironically could Pascal know true joy? Is there a blood-to-food ratio you could achieve where eating a Cheetos wouldn't fuck up your shitty yet superior vampire body?
no. all is puke. no solid food whatsoever

>Ok but would that mean vampires can drink milk? Are there lactose intolerant vampires? Do they puke if they drink milk
i’m just gonna be honest and say that you guys are about a thousand times more interested in the technicalities of this than i ever will be

>in tvrn, do different blood types have different tastes? or is it all placebo effect for those that do think it. "dude i SWEAR this one tasted better i SW-" "theyre all the same. theyre all the fucking same, oh my god"
it is absolutely the latter. any vampire who claims to taste the difference between blood types is bullshitting

>who in tvrn and acid soup smokes weed
tvrn:
- pascal when he can get it but he can’t currently bc everyone hates him
- jonquil
- minmin will socially but doesn’t on his own
- naotaro
- two of kel’s wards but you haven’t met them yet

acid soup:
- belial
- ne
- like every member of the sukebun
- lowry doesn’t currently but when she discovers it it’s going to help a lot
- cain

>RICARDO BIG CAT PUPILS????????
[solemnly] ricardo big cat pupils.

>Your work in color is so stunning and atmospheric - is there a reason you decided to keep TVRN in grayscale?
the primary and extremely unglamorous answer is update speed! it is about a billion times faster + easier to go “ok ~6 shades of grey, 3 shades of red” rather than juggling, like u said, palettes focused on atmosphere and trying to keep palettes across an entire cast of characters more or less consistent the way i do in acid soup. it’s not totally a workflow economy choice tho!!! it is also a loving nod to black and white vampire films, like nosferatu and the bela lugosi dracula.

>so if kel has roughly 400 wards and constantin has like sixty, and he's younger than her too.... kel could probably likely easily snap him in half, right
if it was one on one, yes. but aggressing him is aggressing the entire cradle and all affiliated houses

>Do vampires begin to weaken when they are very old or do they never stop to grow stronger ?
if all other factors are exactly the same, an older vampire will always be stronger at baseline than a younger one. but all factors are rarely exactly the same! as an example, i once mentioned offhand that there will be a character in tvrn who is roughly 5000 years old. but he’s generally averse to violence (at least by vampiric standards) and has had no interest in learning to fight beyond the bare minimum of what’s necessary to defend himself and his wards. kel is 1300, has devoted her life to warfare, and would crush him like a saltine cracker. in the same way, pascal is half bunji’s age, and bunji is a power type, but he was still able to break bunji’s ankle (even though he injured himself doing it) because he was freshly fed and bunji hadn’t fed for an indeterminate amount of time. there are always ways to level the playing field!

>how does kel make time for all 400 of her wards? :O?
she kind of doesn’t. though she turns them all personally in small batches of 3-4 at a time (unlike many cradle families who use branching “the wards of my wards are automatically Mine” systems), most of them are trained and brought up by her older, trusted wards, and she spends the most personal time with the ones who have the most potential. kel is much better in terms of basic decency than most other powerful sires, but she is faaaaar from perfect, and she is a warlord — her main purpose behind creating new vampires is military power, not companionship.

>I know Pascal turned Ricardo by accident but how do most vampires approach turning someone? Do they ask first?
it depends. the vast majority of cradle houses do not, and turn humans against their will based on the sire’s personal taste. the higuchi family, as an example, approaches humans and proposes the turn clearly and honestly, like a business proposal. most american nomadic vampires turn people they already know for companionship. kel only turns women who manage to hunt her down and demand it

>i mean if you were a housebound wife drop spindling all the damn year long and then one day you see kel carrying her horse down the lane who wouldn't snap their husband's neck and chase after her
RIGHT. this is exactly the mood

>Do any vampires decide to shift into animals permanently or semi-permanently?
you wouldn’t be able to hold a shift that dramatic permanently! a vampire who’s competent at shifting could hold a form they’re comfortable with for a few hours without breaks in a relaxed context (i.e. turning into a bat to fly somewhere); one of kel’s wards who is a shifter can hold one of her forms in an aggressive combat context/at full exertion for abt 15 minutes, which is considered pretty intense.

>how long can pascal hold his jackal form?
in theory, like 40 mins. in practice, like 40 seconds bc he HATES not being able to talk

>Does Kel believe dead vampires go to Valhalla?
she has an opinion. she has a fucking WEIRD opinion
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No. 127835 ID: 158da5

>>127834
>pascal mentions super briefly that garlic superstition is ridiculous but jokes on him bc if he ever ate a clove he sure would throw up. that counts

I love that this implies that despite what he says, Pascal has avoided garlic for 250 years.
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No. 127836 ID: bb78f2

>>127834
Are you ever messing with Dhampirs/daywalkers in this setting at all? Can't help but love my Blade's and Bloodraynes so I gotta ask.
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No. 127866 ID: 270774

>>127835
he sure has.

>>127836
nope. tvrn vampires cannot reproduce
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No. 127867 ID: 270774
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anyway it's ricardo's mom love hours
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No. 127869 ID: 158da5

>>127867
Rad
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No. 127878 ID: bb78f2

>>127866
Blade was born from a pregnant human being bit by a vampire, so what you're saying is that Blade would be stillborn in TVRN or birthed normally?

Granted the mother having to spend three days DEAD before being turned requirement would really fuck with their development unless the sire could perform a c-section to save the child in that period.

>>127867
You know, if there would be a quest just about being a single Mom on tgchan, I'd bet the protagonist would be just like her. I don't think a tgchan quest HAS tackled trying to be a parent before... for good reason. Would be funny though.

Why does Mamma Ricardo have to be so cool
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No. 127899 ID: 270774

>>127878
yeah no, being turned requires the person dying so in that case no kid, and in the tvrn universe being bitten non-fatally has no supernatural effects so the kid would just be born normally. no vampire kids possible in any circumstances
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No. 127900 ID: 270774
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127900

anyway my twitter+tumblr audience cares abt stuff like this but idk if my strictly tgchan one does but i’m gonna post it anyway for the sake of it being new art; i have acrylic charms in the works and i’m like. stoked abt it
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No. 127919 ID: 158da5

Would you mind explaining about the Easter Island problem here? I'd like to understand that, too.
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No. 127920 ID: b1b4f3

I don't get it either.
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No. 127921 ID: 465a14

>>127919
>>127920
Wasn't involved in it, but after the fact my guess is that people thought it could be offensive that Pascal called the Rapa Nui/Easter Island statues ugly, since they're significant in a culture he isn't part of.
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No. 127922 ID: b1b4f3

>>127921
Isn't that to be expected though? Beauty is subjective, and standards of beauty are different between cultures, even.
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No. 127923 ID: 158da5

>>127922
Yeah don't do that.
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No. 127924 ID: b1b4f3

>>127923
Do what?
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No. 127925 ID: 158da5

>>127924
Justify mocking other cultures because they're different. Being respectful doesn't mean you have to personally like the way something looks.

I don't know if that's what Fractal was even referring to yet, but c'mon.
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No. 127927 ID: b1b4f3

>>127925
I didn't think Pascal was mocking their culture. One statue's appearance is only the barest surface level, after all(the history of the statues is pretty interesting!). I can't see how he phrased it now, maybe it's worse than I remember.

If you ask me the problem was probably how Fractal drew the statue, it could be considered a racist caricature due to being a bit exaggerated.
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No. 127938 ID: 9e2e20

>>127919
>>127920

heres a message sent to FRACTAL's curiouscat that explains the issue well imo

>different anon here but as someone who has been keeping up with tvrn this really isnt any better With context and i've been trying to find the words to express how uncomfortable it makes me. in the text of the update you had pascal call the easter island statues ugly and compared their features to ricardo's in a way that really didnt read like you were just talking about the eyebrows, i dont understand what's supposed to be funny about this except you playing racism for humor. the "i cannot tell you all apart" line is especially inappropriate and uncomfortably close to harmful real life stereotypes about dark-skinned people. it genuinely shocked and disappointed me, i really thought you knew better than this.
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No. 127939 ID: 158da5

>>127938
Oh wow, okay, that makes sense.
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No. 127948 ID: 270774

>>127938
yeah, the best explanation is the one that informed my decision (which is this one quoted here.) someone else had opened the conversation by telling me in broader terms that they found the joke uncomfortable and racist, and i didn’t really Get It bc from my perspective it was just a joke abt his expression, and then when this person weighed in that was my like lightbulb moment where i was like “oh, SHIT, it DOES completely come off like this.” i don’t think that my intent in this case matters at all bc it doesn’t change what the end result ended up being (which is.... Bad.)

i was very firmly convinced by the points this person brought up, and i don’t want anything like that in my work, and also i just want to take it seriously when someone says they’re disappointed in me for legitimate reasons, so altogether that’s why i decided to just remove that part entirely and redo it.
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No. 127976 ID: 270774

heads up -- you guys missed something that's like. not VITAL, but a pretty big deal. i'd been waiting for someone to notice and i normally don't give hints, but this update contains a nudge towards what you missed.
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No. 128303 ID: 270774

it’s crosspost time

>What tamagotchi does Jonquil have? Like one of the original ones, or the 20th anniversary re-release? Or are they like super into it and have one imported one from Japan that they've patched
they have Many. they have a Collection

>do any vampires turn their family members? parents, siblings, a big undead family?
depends on location/culture! this is super common in dens (like the brooklyn one.) the same with turning close friends for companionship — generally only done in vampire populations where the ward/sire relationship isn’t automatically considered one of servitude

>when you say tvrn out loud do you say 'turn' or 'tee vee ahr enn'
i say turn! but [my wife, who created ricardo + several other characters] tends to pronounce it almost like “tavern” (kind of like... t’vern) and sometimes i catch that version of it sneaking into my brain

>If you've used historical figures like Elizabeth Bathory as vampires, are there any modern-day famous people that are vampires or other monsters?
i feel weird abt writing anyone who hasn’t been dead for a century or more into my porno comic tbh fjdkjdkd. like even if it was just as a joke it’s just a boundary i don’t really wanna mess around w

>tvrn characters' weirdest sleeping positions?
jonquil crams themself into the smallest spaces they can find like a fucked up cat

>how do you come up with this stuff?! for tvrn i mean. you seem to have such rich backstory and a whole entire arc planned out and it's super cool. i don't know how to tell stories or create characters with depth. also i would buy enamel pins if we're suggesting merch.
ohhhh this is kind of a hard question. my instinctive answer was “i just Do It” but i know that’s not really true, it’s just that i don’t know how to put what i do into words. i’ll try tho!
i think worldbuilding and character development are both just asking yourself a lot of questions and then answering them. the concept of wards + sires is something that’s been part of my Personal Vampire Lore since i was like 15; the question is “well if you get turned into a vampire who shows you how to hunt people without getting caught and how do you find out which stuff is real or not re: crosses and garlic and stuff” and the answer in my case was “well i guess the person who turned you had better show you otherwise they’re a dick.” and then like in terms of how pascal became better developed.... at first his concept was just “vampire who seems scary and elegant but actually he’s just kind of lazy and a loser and a coward.” and so you ask questions about that. “doesn’t he have any friends?” not really. “how does he feel about that?” he’s resigned to it. “what does he do all day?” nothing, frankly. and you just keep asking yourself questions like that until you’ve like..... covered everything, kind of.

>sorry ya it is a tough question ! i guess i’m just really impressed w the way your story is crafted with. peaks and falls and action and what is to be discovered and resolution like i think i just don’t know how to write a story lol
i think the best way to learn to write stories is just to consume a bunch of stories! my work is very strongly influenced by shoujo and shonen in equal measure, and by horror movies, plus of course tvrn is a big sloppy nod to the standard trashy romance novel formula: relatively average but strongwilled protag is thrust into a situation in which they have to exist in close quarters with mysterious sexy asshole, lots of people try to stop it from happening, protag slowly uncovers mysterious sexy asshole’s Tragic Past and Hidden Softness, etc etc. so it’s really just drawing from a bunch of other stuff that i like!

>Who would think being compared to a furby is a complement in the TVRN cast? Is it Jonquil?
jonquil would not like being compared to a furby bc they would interpret that as “slow to learn, almost universally considered annoying.” minmin thinks furbies are cute tho. (furbies? furbys?)

>what does minmin think about longfurby
minmin commissioned a custom longfurby to wear like a mink stole

>Hot take: Pascal should blow raspberries on Ricardo's abs
your brain is so big. thank you

>can we have some werewolf fuck tips since I know werewolves tend to rightfully avoid vampires but, how do we set them at ease around us not to run off when we approach them?
dont let pascal say or do anything at all

>d does pascal hate werewolves or do werewolves hate pascal
pascal is a little fucking bitch asshole to werewolves for absolutely no reason

>will the werewolves be... Hot
everyone in tvrn is and always will be hot, in various and many-splendored ways

>Did pascal fuck oscar wilde Yes or yes
the timeline on this one actually works out perfectly. you know what maybe pascal wasn’t grossed out by fucking humans when he was younger and then he changed his mind once he started getting older

>So pascal said he’s not into fucking humans but how uncommon/taboo is it to other vampires? Are some of them down with that?
i would say more vampires Aren’t into it than are, not bc of any kind of taboo but just bc as a physical experience it isn’t Great, but it’s not that uncommon.

>i’m all for pascal fucking mozart and i hate to be the one to tell you this but i feel like it’s relevant to point out that it was uncovered in some letters he wrote his cousin that mozart had a scat fetish
[taking out my big eraser] not in the tvrniverse he didn’t

>What would happen if the Hearts Goetia cast and TVRN cast net up? Would they fight or something?
i think it’s safe to say like half of them would fuck and the other half would kill each other

>wait how much ass eating is in tvrn. should i start reading it
to be COMPLETELY frank with you there is, so far, much less ass eating than there is psychological horror but i’ll try to even it up

>OK this could be something u don’t want to touch on until it comes up in canon which is totally fine but is constantin just turning people who look like himself?? Because he has the beauty mark, unless its also a tattoo?????
no this is fine i don’t really consider it a spoiler. he does turn ppl who look like him

[it would feel silly to copy paste something in spanish when everything else in this thread is in english but paraphrased, i got a question abt whether tvrn vampires need to be invited into buildings and the answer is only private residences. so they could enter an apartment building without an invitation but to enter a specific unit where someone lives they would need an invitation]

>How would the main vampires in tvrn so far comfort someone in floods of tears? (if comforting is something they do instead of just "you're crying. Stop doing that")
we actually have seen ricardo try to comfort pascal when he was crying in ch 1 and his reaction is literally “stop that.” pascal would probably try to make you laugh to distract you, or flirt playfully to get your mind off it. kel would comfortingly slap you on the back and probably break several of your bones doing so and then you’d be too shocked and winded to keep crying. lamb......... lamb would just get uncomfortable and leave

>Yes tvrn vamps are majestically op, But ever since you said the brain and the heart keep going unless they're completely destroyed I've wanted to. behead a vampire and see if it grows into two vampires like when you cut a worm in half.
i actually answered this once and can’t remember what i said but it was probably something boring and practical like “after 3 days of separation, whichever body half has Less to regenerate (so almost always the body w the heart in it) will start regenerating and the other part will die like a mortal body” but i change my mind and now i’m saying whether the head or the heart is prioritized as the center of regeneration depends on the vampire bc that’s cooler

>now im wondering if pascal’s comments about werewolves not being a threat to vampires is going to come bite us in the ass when he inevitably pisses off a werewolf and we learn werewolves ARE a threat, actually,
it is possible pascal cosovei was blowing it out his ass when he bragged he could take a pack of werewolves singlehanded

>If Pascal tried to suck my blood I would merely take out an aerosol can and a lighter and completely immolate his shitty vampire body
thank you so much

>can vampire be moth
yes

>what would happen if a vampire tried to suck a werewolf's blood? or are we going to have to find that out ourselves? I'll stop if my werewolf questions are getting tiring.
the vampire would retch and spit a lot and wonder why the hell they tried to do that because it tastes like shit

>are all vampires as... elitist as Pascal? he seemed really dismissive of other cryptids. or is it just an old european house thing. also is Kel friends with any banshees?
most cradle vamps are worse than him, and almost all vampires are very obnoxiously aware of how solid their position at the top of the supernatural food chain is even if they aren’t as shitty abt it as cradle vamps are about, like, everything. even if they aren’t elitist abt it tho most vampires don’t have anything to do w other creatures anyway, bc other creatures want nothing to do w vampires, bc vampires are hyperviolent freaks. banshees are completely solitary but kel has some history with sirens

>how would pascal react if some rando just called him a rat because pascal reminds me of a rat but in both a good way and a bad way
he would scream. and then get distracted bc rats are kind of cute and he’d start thinking maybe it was a compliment

>Ok but would kel be friends with a buff werewolf lady if she fought for her love
kel could crush even an extremely tough werewolf in one hand like a dry leaf so it would be hard for a werewolf to win her respect by fighting her but maybe a werewolf could win kel’s respect if kel observed her like, fighting for her pack. (kel would probably refuse to fight a werewolf period bc it would be so unbalanced.)

>wait, do the bathory wards get the tattoo BEFORE being turned? if they got it after, it would just heal, right? 🤔
yep, they do

>hey ira!! do you have voiceclaims / ideas about how tvrn characters sound?
not really! this is one of those things where like... i guess my brain just doesn’t really work that way? and i don’t think abt it in very specific terms

>you've at least implied The Count from Sesame Street as a voiceclaim for Pascal before xD
you’re right, i apologize. count von count is the official pascal voiceclaim

>what do vampires think of their depictions in media? like, do they think its funny or insulting or are they just 'humans are stupid.' Is Dracula wary that they've semi-caught on to his existence?
depends on the vampire. pascal loves them. dracula isn’t bothered — as far as he’s concerned, all the bullshit just obscures his actual operations

>what r dracula's Actual Operations? 👀
in what universe would i answer this when we are on chapter 2, you little sneak

>does dracula have his ass out at all times. does dracula wear stockings. please tell me dracula is sexy and has gigantic titties even if he is evil and we will have to kill him inevitably or die trying at endgame i just want to know
im not telling you anything abt dracula except that all tvrn characters are sexy

>is it ethical to fuck tvrn dracula is the real question we should be asking
i genuinely haven’t decided yet

>Ok but what about the brides of dracula, if they exist are they hot? Are they the grooms of dracula instead
dracula is single

>i forget if you've mentioned this somewhere, but how long can a vampire go without feeding before starvation sets in? and are there any long-term consequences if a vampire frequently approaches starvation, or does their accelerated healing take care of it?
pascal’s mentioned this briefly — depends on how old a vampire is. pascal feeds about once every three weeks in cold weather, and more frequently when it’s warm out. as for the actual limits of starvation, he does mention a story about elizabeth bathory surviving four years without blood — but he also says he thinks that’s impossible sensationalized bullshit, and that in general a 500-1000 year old vampire would be able to go 5-6 months at most. consequences of repeated starvation will be addressed in canon pretty soon

>I think TVRN is turning me gay
congrats and welcome

>do you think it would be going to fast if Ricardo and Pascal got shotgun married in vegas by an elvis impersonator
if ricardo even vaguely broached this subject pascal would steal another car and leave him to die

>Can vampires speak furbish
yuo people age me

>ira help was there bigfoot lore in tvrn, i scrolled ur curiouscat for a while but couldn’t find it
there was but a lot of it is on my nsfw cc (it wasn’t nsfw lore just like, sometimes ppl send it there). basically: they’re pacifists who deeply value strong communication and are happier than almost every other supernatural species

>do bigfeet look at vampires and go "wowww. sucks to be you. peace!" and go away if they encounter a vampire?
essentially yeah. they feel compassion for vampires but also Nobody Wants To Deal With That

>how open to fucking are bigfeet?
in general? extremely. fucking vampires in particular? that is a much harder sell given vampires’ tendency towards Unbridled Murder

>Do Bigfeet count as furbies
fuck you

>Do Vampires leave ghosts? Where are the cute ghosts in general?
vampires do not. ghosts in general are everywhere

>im thinking abt the idea of kel adopting other ppls wards .... like if a ward was treatly badly by their sire and they ran away and found kel and wanted to be part of her army.. would she let them? or would it be too risky?
she would let them if they were tough enough to be useful to her which is a pretty narrow entry requirement

>scouring vegas like a video game level looking for the unlockable playboy bunny suit for ricardo that he has to wear in all the serious duel cutscenes
your brain is huge
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No. 128318 ID: 465a14

can a furby become a vampire
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No. 128320 ID: 9582af

Does human blood taste the same for vampires as it does for humans? Apparently it can taste better or worse, but how does that work?
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No. 128328 ID: 465a14

>>128318
followup: who are furby vampires gay for, whose asses do furbpires eat
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No. 128330 ID: 270774

>>128318
fuck you

>>128320
human blood to vampires just tastes like, Extremely Good. Satisfying. evokes the response of “This Is All I Need.” but it all generally tastes the same, the difference only comes in the actual quality based on the health of the victim (and some vampires are more sensitive to/picky about it than others).
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No. 128331 ID: 270774

>>128328
can. can you eat ass with a beak
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No. 128333 ID: 17c2ee

>>128331
yeah sure if the tongues are long enough i guess you can
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No. 128335 ID: 17c2ee

>>128333
wait nevermind i just remembered birds have, like, teeth on their tongues so probably no ass eating

although maybe that's just geese
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No. 128338 ID: b67607

>>128330
Thank you
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No. 128339 ID: b67607

>>128335
I'm fucking losing it this is the worst thing I've ever read
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No. 128340 ID: 17c2ee

>>128339
i thought of something worse, do you remember Bill & Mandy

i want you to imagine a furby eating ass with a betoothed tongue

scrape

and

lick

furbpires don't bite or drink regular blood they only drink ass and toe blood
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No. 128344 ID: b1b4f3

>>128340
STOP
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No. 128346 ID: c8452a

Is that a bannable offense
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No. 128379 ID: 270774

i love you guys but mention toes in my disthread again and i’ll hunt you for sport like a rich englishman
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No. 128382 ID: 465a14

>>128379
how about foot knuckles specifically, not the rest of the thing
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No. 128383 ID: 270774

>>128382
i’m taking my hunting rifle off the wall and my manservant is fetching my jodhpurs
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No. 128384 ID: 465a14

>>128383
reasonable tbh
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No. 128390 ID: c8452a

>>128379
Oh and not the tooth tongue, I see, I see
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No. 128477 ID: c8452a

Is it too early to write an obituary for Ricardo?
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No. 128478 ID: 465a14

Quick break from shitposting- it's cool to see sign languages show up in quest panels. Dragon Romance's been doing it for a while with Outissa but I'm kinda hype to see other characters to do it in tvrn, so thanks FRACTAL.
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No. 128500 ID: 270774

>>128477
might as well get it over with

>>128478
:)!!! ive been rly excited abt introducing this character so i’n glad to see other ppl hyped abt her as well. it’s impossible for me to really pick a favorite of kel’s wards bc i love them all for different reasons but i def have a soft spot for sirloin
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No. 128501 ID: c8452a

>>128500
Got it. If he ends up fighting Lamb I will have something ready.

Sirloin is so cool, I love her attitude and I can't wait to see her fight.
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No. 128503 ID: 97d823

howdy!! I think I remember reading smth about certain affinities being linked to like, personality traits?? is that true?? are affinities the hogwarts houses of tvrn??
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No. 128504 ID: 270774

>>128503
thats briefly mentioned in chapter 2; minmin compares it to blood type personality theories and insists it’s accurate. in summary, he says:
- power types are “impatient, straightforward, and too earnest for their own good”
- shifters are “crazy tenacious and resourceful and ... socially an acquired taste”
- he doesn’t say anything about psychic affinities in general, but when ricardo asks about hypnotists like pascal minmin refuses to answer bc he “doesn’t have anything nice to say”
- and specialists don’t fit into affinity typing at all.

that’s all the info u guys have in canon rn!
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No. 128505 ID: 97d823

>>128504
thank u!! <3
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128696

hey here’s something fun. kel is my oldest oc (at least the oldest one i still have and actively think about/care about) and here’s the absolute oldest art i could dig up of her; probably about 2009ish. (i no longer have an equivalent of the other woman in this drawing; she was a very generic like, Shy Timid Stammering Anime Girl and like i still love tropes but not that one)
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128739

think i made her tits too small
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No. 128753 ID: 10c408

>>128739
I have no idea if you did or not.

But when in doubt enhance knockers!
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128847

>>128753
Here you go.
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No. 128870 ID: 270774

>>128739
there’s always room for more titty. that doesn’t make this any less cute, tho, thanks!
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128894

squeezing in concepts for larger portrait illustrations? in this economy? yes which means i'm just going to post these here so at least you can see them before i inevitably don't finish them
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No. 128896 ID: 465a14

>>128894
why is Lamb holding one of the furbpires
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No. 128905 ID: b463f2

>>128894
these are so beautiful and lovely.... Lamb's is so serene, and the Riscal one effuses stability and joy!
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No. 128937 ID: bb78f2

So on a rare chance a human survives a proper vampire feeding (assuming they're throats weren't gouged out like Ricardo does to his victims), is a vampire obligated to finish them off if the human makes it to a hospital (or say they get caught by the police one way or another)?

Now, I'm making the assumption while asking this question that a filling feeding doesn't go way past the surviving point of blood loss and merely near it. Since vampires need to fast themselves to drain enough blood create a ward, I imagine it might actually be possible to survive if the vampire isn't that hungry, but is still hungry enough to want to feed. They bite, drink enough that they're full, the human's bleeding out, the vampire leaves the dying body, and someone discovers the victim before they die and through some luck they pull through, that's the scenario I'm imaganing happen. I don't know what happens to the survivor and I'm curious about it. I don't think it would ever happen in quest, but I help can't be intrigued by the scenario in question.
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No. 128958 ID: 270774

>>128937
well i mean yeah all that happens in a case where a human doesn’t die is....... you have a human with severe blood loss. law enforcement and medical professionals are not particularly going to be like “hmmm i guess vampires are real”

also though to be completely honest i don’t put extensive thought into whether or not the cops are onto vampires because i would find wrangling that insanely boring so i just gloss over it
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No. 128961 ID: c8452a

>>128958
Hey, not dealing with cops is the ideal, so that's great.
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No. 128972 ID: bb78f2

It was less the whole cops or paramedics going wild and more like, well now what's the bitten human gonna do now?

Go home, fuggeditaboutit?
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No. 128975 ID: c8452a

>>128972
People deal with trauma constantly. So yeah, probably.
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No. 129153 ID: b1b4f3

Hey so... what if Teddy was...
Theodore Roosevelt?
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No. 129158 ID: 255b3c

>>129153
That'd explain some elements of Teddy's relationship with Pascal, what with Teddy being a Rough Rider and all.

I'll see myself out.
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129316

some little notes on the historical stuff in this most recent update:
1. kel says the trial was 300 years ago; she’s wrong! it was about 400ish years ago.
2. cachtice castle, where elizabeth bathory was imprisoned and died, was actually in what is now slovakia, 500 miles away from where constantin’s current estate is in tvrn (outside alba iulia). it’s also been in ruins since the turn of the 18th century. for tvrn’s purposes, though, cachtice is in full repair, and has also magically always been in central romania, because i say so
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No. 129317 ID: b1b4f3

Okay so I've got a couple more ideas on how to deal with the ward shielding:
1, bypass the endurance battle problem. Either by bringing a blood supply to the fight somehow, or by using opponents as the blood supply. Wait, does drinking vampire blood work for recovering strength and regenerating?
2, kill off the wards before the fight. Constantin is a hard man to get alone, but his wards are probably less secure, and he'll probably be sending some of them against us anyway(like in Stardust Crusaders). Kill off enough of them and we can deal with his remaining wards during the duel and still be in good enough condition to fight him.

Depending on the terms of the duel we could do some fucked up shit like hide weapons inside Ricardo's body or outright reinforce his body with subdermal armor. VAMPIRE CYBORG
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No. 129496 ID: 094652

I have a theory about Lamb's sect; they're all apocalypse nutjobs who believe that the ultimate purpose of God's children is to bring about the end of the world, thereby completing the task that Noah refused to begin. The only reason they haven't been secretly erased by religious forces is because they're one of the few sects that (1) fanatically believe in the need to purge the world of evil so that good will be the last thing to die, (2) are crazy-effective at hunting bad people, and (3) manage to exude some level of cuteness to creatures of darkness (hence Kel turning a vampire hunter despite how cliche and reputation breaking it is), which prevents a purge of the organization and its recent contacts. The major religions said "oh look, the vamps have a parasite feeding on them, how poetic" and generally ignored them because their fundamental belief that evil must die first meant that they would never target civilians while still using the power of ax-crazy to hunt down everyone else.
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No. 129497 ID: bb78f2

are witchblade's stands
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No. 129502 ID: 270774

>>129497
stands, utena black rose duelist blades, magical girl talking animal mascots except angry and pointy. i’m drawing from a lot of genre tropes i like, as usual
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129512

i did it i hacked the future and found the secret spoilers for the ending of tvrn
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No. 129514 ID: b1b4f3

>>129512
I feel like they wouldn't need to be turbosluts in that case. Having sex like once a week? That's pretty normal for a sexually active relationship I think.
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No. 129516 ID: f57349

>>129514
Once a week for subsistence, sure, but the ones who were trying to hold back and get by with bare subsistence just stuck to drinking blood.

Imagine if you'd spent your whole life eating only raw potatoes after digging them out of the ground with your bare hands. One day, somebody points you at a restaurant where not only could you get as much delicious candy as you want, and cheeseburgers too, keep eating and eating, never get tired or nauseous, but furthermore the folks running the place will sometimes actually pay you to take that stuff, or at least act like you're the one doing THEM a favor? Near anybody with addiction-prone personality traits would immediately dive into that headfirst and never come back out again, and vampires do tend to be deeply tangled up with the idea of addiction.
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No. 129524 ID: 270774

fools. i don't need solid worldbuilding reasons to make my vampires all turbosluts
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No. 129558 ID: 58c855

yo is lamb trans. idk why i think she is but shes just got the Vibe yanno
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No. 129582 ID: 270774

>>129524
lamb figuring out her gender shit is part of her character arc, actually! so, yes, but she doesn’t know it yet. and as long as the subject is up, strip and rack are both nb as well and sirloin is a trans woman. (this stuff is all going to be referenced in canon eventually but i don’t like character identities being treated as “spoilers”/some kind of big reveal so i never mind casually talking abt them before stuff is made official in the text.)
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No. 129624 ID: b0b724

>>129582
This is awesome. I'm happy to see all of this explored and it's really cool that you're being so open about it.
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No. 129627 ID: 04ca3e
129627

Hey is Acid Soup still a thing?
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No. 129631 ID: 270774

>>129627
yep, just haven’t had the vibe/energy for it lately. will probably pick it back up again soon tho bc i have a lot more time on my hands recently

which actually reminds me that i guess i never announced this here but uh. i quit my job to do art full time! that sure is happening. i’m taking a few weeks off to spend time w my girl and also just like celebrate not having a day job anymore but you’re going to see a lot more of me soon in general
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No. 129642 ID: 99a682

I have not been on tg chan in a long while so I'm late to the party but Holy Fucking Shit Kel Oh My God Holy Fuck Kel Is So Good
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No. 129644 ID: b1b4f3

Kel is definitely my favorite character so far.
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