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48871 No. 48871 ID: d6af4f

The discussion thread for that one quest with the green guy and the mimiga cutebold psycho
girl.
Edit: This discussion thread can serve to cover all quests within asteroidverse and any offshoots. Fen Quest has its own dis thread at https://tgchan.org/kusaba/questdis/res/84312.html
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No. 127305 ID: b1b4f3

>>127302
Holy shit dude.
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No. 127306 ID: d2de35

Enough.

No one is getting anywhere with this argument and this is not the place to have this discussion. Any snippy asides on any side are going to lead to bans being handed out. This got too far out of hand and I'm ashamed I didn't intervene earlier. Move along.
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No. 127432 ID: 32afab

Just a reminder that it was a year ago today that we lost Likol.
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No. 127445 ID: 10c408

>>127432
Why must you do this to my heart.
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No. 127446 ID: 32afab

>>127445
I've thought about him every goddamned day since, so I couldn't just let the 29th pass without any sort of mention.
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No. 127448 ID: 864e49
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>>127446
He will be forever remembered.
His sacrifices will not be in vain.
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No. 127490 ID: b970b2

>>127446
Likol did what had to be done. We just need to make sure Vanski gets his dues for the evil he has caused. A reckoning cannot be postponed indefinitely.
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No. 127498 ID: 58c855

Likol was braver than any US marine
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No. 127507 ID: 470289

Hi!

Moving into the second thread of The Rogue after this (hopefully shortish) prologue section, I wanted to get a better idea of what readers felt about the story. I have an unfortunate tendency to waffle on a lot of stuff, so having some hard data to make future decisions off of would ideally help me make the story better for both you and me. Or maybe it won't and this is just a dumb way for me try and understand something that's not really understandable. Either way, hopefully we'll learn something.

If you're a Rogue reader I would appreciate you filling out the following survey or if you have feedback I didn't make a question for just ask it in the thread.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/VVV3VQK

Thanks!
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No. 127548 ID: 9125e0

*Pouring out liquor for Likol*
He will forever be remembered, and so will those who were lost to help him complete his goal.
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No. 127657 ID: 470289

Hi again!

It's been about a week and I've gotten some good feedback from the survey. Thanks to everyone who participated.

The survey will stay open for stragglers but I have reviewed all the feedback already sent and will be taking it all into consideration going forward. I can't promise I'll please everyone, but I do promise to do my best to make an entertaining story and deliver entertaining content you haven't seen before.

Once again, thanks to all readers of The Rogue and I hope you keep enjoying it!
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No. 128516 ID: 0ab3ed

Hey, so, I just finished reading Asteroid Quest up to Penn Quest 1, then I read Unnatural Selection, then I finished the remaining Asteroid Quest threads.
I have some thoughts, although they're split up between compliments of what i liked, critiques of what i think didn't work as well, questions about the plot, questions about certain world details and just minor comments and I won't post them all, unless someone wants me too.
It was really good, mostly. Actually, its hard to talk about a story as long as the entirety of all those threads as a cohesive whole. But it was good enough to continually engross me, especially Unnatural Selection for some reason.
I think it would be good if Unnatural Selection was placed on the Asteroid Quest wiki page now, since it has become directly related to the events of Penn Quest. It would kinda give away the reveal that they're in a CAI, but that doesn't take away very much imo, that reveal comes in thread 5 and it was still impactful even though i already vaguely knew it. In fact, knowing that they were in a CAI made the start more interesting if anything, because I had a context for what was happening.
I do have one question relating to UnSe; When previous Glitchers had been killed/eaten by the guardian beast, why hadn't Likol's alarm been triggered? I got the impression that the guardian beast transferred everything it ate to the Ring Shell, and that Likol's alarm was to trigger if an AI made it to the Ring Shell. So why hadn't it happened before with the other Glitchers who got eaten?
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No. 128544 ID: 49a777

>>128516 Personally, I would like to hear your other questions, which I will attempt to answer to the best of my ability.

To answer your already available question: the alarm didn't go off because of an AI entering the RS, it may be programmed to, but Glitcher doesn't have an ID and couldn't be detected anyway. When the alarm went off, it was because material from block C entered the RS, meaning that it was the material that Rulekeeper threw into the guardian to provide Glitcher with a shell. The key difference between our Glitcher's encounter and previous ones is that, when the guardian assimilates the Glitcher's core, it rips it from that Glitcher's shell, when that happened to our Glitcher, the tooth and a whole bunch of strings were tossed in after him. This is assuming that I remember correctly, as I had reread thread 15 (the one with the alarm going off) but not the other relevant threads.
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No. 128558 ID: 0ab3ed

Well, one thing i didnt quite get was the Ring Shell language thing. Like i got that it translated the ordinary speech of the contestants into something unintelligible, but i didnt really get how it specifically encrypted them. There was something about using the corrupted logs to translate it? Likol said he had to teach the Ring Shell morse code. How did Glitcher spell out that message he leaves in english?

Also what was with Likol's empathy double? Was that the version of him that Vanski had tried to use the predator to make him become? That was the impression i got, but it wasn't explicitly stated, and it seems a bit weird they would turn their computer scientist into a guitar player.
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No. 128569 ID: 465a14

>>128558
>Also what was with Likol's empathy double?
As stated in the quest, Likol's fragmenting. He's old enough that he's nearing the end of his lifespan and his body is falling apart. It's a common symptom at that point in their life- consider it a neumono version of Alzheimer's or dementia.
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No. 128570 ID: 465a14

>>128569
Specifically- this was mentioned when he visited a doctor to figure out what was happening, and that was what the doctor thought was happening with admittedly limited information. It's fairly explicit that Likol was tampered with in some fashion or another and very likely that this interacts somehow with his mental state, but the primary cause appears to just be being nearly at the point of death by aging.
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No. 128571 ID: b1b4f3

>>128569
>>128570
No, it was practically spelled out that the empathy double was an implanted personality to try to bring him under control. To make him stop caring about things.
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No. 128586 ID: 49a777

To answer the language question: The RS uses some language of its own, it was stated that it was not, in fact, an encryption, as it did not use an algorithm to change the letters; this is a direct translation of one language to another, so as Glitcher was becoming more, uh, attuned to the RS, he lost the capability to understand English, the corrupted logs were already in the language the RS uses, so when written out, Glitcher could read them and send it back in Morse. Morse code was, to my knowledge, just thrown in there as something that could be detected by the outside, Morse code was also put into block C, so it only worked because it was present in both places and relied on patterns rather than written language. The conversation was taking place in three languages, words were translated from English to Morse to RS, then back again. Glitcher most likely left the English message that he did before he lost the ability to read, write, and understand English. As of this moment, I don't think anybody has successfully translated RS to English (though I may have glossed over whether or not the contestants have, I know they were working on it).
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No. 128598 ID: c81ec8

Lagotrope, may I use characters and material from AstroidQuest in a quest of my own?

If asked I'll supply a laundry list of all the stuff I would want to use.

Thanks.
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No. 128602 ID: 5fc3a0

>>128598
I don't mind (I'm assuming this is outside of AQ canon), though I would be curious what you'd want to use.
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No. 128609 ID: e948d8

>>128602
Thank you sincerely.

And yes, totally outside of the cannon.

Here's a basic list of things, though I wasn't super thorough.

Polo.
Rokoa.
Katzati.
Kappi.
Neumono as a whole.
The Neumono homeworld.
Salaki. (I think I spelled that wrong.)
CAI's.
Pomi.
Yich eater.
The Asteroid itself.
Some misc stuff that I can't immediately recall, but will list out if requested.

What I plan to do with these things is a super secret, that I don't want to talk about on public channels. Not that I'm trying to go over your head, just that I want it to be a surprise.

Thank you again. No complement I have the vocabulary to issue does justice to the quality of the AQ universe and it's characters. And in turn, I find it difficult to express the gratitude I have for you letting me use them.
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No. 128626 ID: 0ab3ed

Another question, why did Vanski give Likol a fake CAI and a fake possibility to escape? He was waiting where Likol got out of the river and just recaptured him immediately, so what was he actually trying to do setting that scenario up?
Also, how did the ASE manage to put self-detruct codes on hugs.exe but not actually stop the program from being put on Likol's goggles? The CAI said something about 2 seconds but it wasn't really clear what exactly went down.
That's something that was kind of an issue for thread 17 in general actually, imo. There was a lot of stuff building up this mystery around what had happened when Likol had tried to escape and why he couldn't remember it, but there was never really a 'reveal'. We were told what happened, but we never saw it, and only in loose details. Like what was with that note on the laptops written in blood saying not to connect it to anything? It didn't seem like anything actually happened when it got connected. I feel like it would have been solved if there had been just one more flashback that went through some of what had happened in the base.
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No. 128627 ID: ab1fe9

>>128626
I think part of those questions being unanswered is just how quests are structured. We could have had the answers, but we missed them. We didn't take the path or do the thing that would have given the reveal. So... tough luck. That sort of thing is what gives a sense of stakes to your suggestions.

It's also still possible for some of those that they'll still be revealed. Or that the sense of frustration with the mystery is intentional, to enhance the atmosphere of dangerous secrecy that Polo and Penn are each going to be trying to penetrate.
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No. 128681 ID: 49a777

I seem to remember mention of Hugs.exe being made for the purpose of general use by the hive to help with things, but I don't know if that was me or if it was actually mentioned at some point. If this was the case, ASE putting some weird sequence of nonsense as a self destruct trigger, let alone a self destruct trigger, would make much more sense, as they would be able to control were the AI was able to go, but not limit its capabilities. Again, I don't know where I got this information, so take it with a grain of salt. It would also make sense if, due to the CAI's tendency to say and do strange things that may or may not be factually correct, the ASE guys referenced were Likol's hive; this assumption, however, does not account for the self destruct code, so I do not think it true.
Vanski's loyalty test, if you can call it that, was a bit odd, yes, but I just assumed that its weird nature was due to his... mental instability.
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No. 128713 ID: 5ba090

>>128627
Eh, I didn't really get that impression from the thread, that those were mysteries that were optional for the readers to solve. Like, quests vary between being more gamelike and being more storylike, or being both, and thread 17 at least seemed much more storylike. But it feels like it missed a scene to me. It doesn't really bother me though, I know that keeping track of numerous story details while writing serial fiction can be hard, and Asteroid Quest has a lot of plot-important details. This was meant to be the kind of criticism that is hopefully helpful to Lagotrope, just a description of something that didn't seem to work as well and why.

>>128681
That makes more sense, I would like to read whatever you got that from is though.

A more general question, have we learned anything about the other neumono who went through Polo's training and developed the ability to go silent? In ITQ or elsewhere?
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No. 128717 ID: ab1fe9

>>128713
>I didn't really get that impression from the thread, that those were mysteries that were optional for the readers to solve. Like, quests vary between being more gamelike and being more storylike, or being both, and thread 17 at least seemed much more storylike. But it feels like it missed a scene to me.

Well, I don't agree. Yes, the information is missing, but I don't think the story suffers for it, and I even think it's been enhanced for Polo and Penn's quests, later. I'm sure we could have searched out those mysteries, if we wanted to and were smart enough, but if they were optional then we chose not to (which might have been wise, as they could have a price) and if they were essential then we simply failed. We can do that. Even "storylike" quests, as you call them, can have details missed or tasks failed. The suggesters have some responsibility for how a stories goes as well as the author.

Even just in and of itself, though, the feeling of questions unanswered suits the atmosphere of the quest itself. Likol is a scientist - having questions to answer, being surrounded by mysteries, is appropriate to him. Having those questions be hard to solve, with an air of dread around them, reinforces the frustration and fear he's feeling, and the sense that something that he values (the search for knowledge) has been tainted and become bitter for him. And when the quest ends, and he's taken away with those questions unanswered, yeah it's unsatisfying - it is for him, too! He doesn't want to go. He's not at peace. His future is uncertain but almost certainly horrible, and he's had to resign himself to never getting what he'd really want. Because we haven't gotten an answer to our questions, our feelings line up with his perfectly. I mean, if we had gotten all the mysteries revealed, and felt that we were satisfied and sure what was going on, would that have been the right feeling to have while watching Likol go to his doom?
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No. 128722 ID: 465a14

>>128713
Basically only ITQ. Polo is the only complete success. The others are all from her hive and can't maintain it to the same degree she can, iirc if they had any others who could go silent at all it was only for short periods of time and it was painful/harmful to do.
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No. 128726 ID: 864e49

By the way it's been awhile since wev'e seen any activity from Lago.
They ok?
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No. 128809 ID: 465a14

>>128726
He's been around offsite. I assume he's busy, or if he actually did get sick or something I didn't see mention of it.
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Behold, the true face of the Rogues! Only the Brotherhood shall see us through!
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No. 129447 ID: 1ac5eb
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Got some rogue pics done. gonna upload them... eventually. Here's the first.

Art by GraphyGraphie. They are super nsfw, so fair warning if you look em up.
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No. 129449 ID: 1ac5eb
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There was a misunderstanding about what they were going to be paid for.
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No. 129743 ID: 34fb21

Hey lagotrope I’m planning on having my character make a visit to the unnatural selection quest of yours in my quest of course since my character is a dimension hopper this interaction can be canon for my quest and non canon for yours just letting you know if you want to make some pictures of the interaction or hint to this in your next update to unnatural selection
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No. 129744 ID: 34fb21

Also please note don’t have Alison immediately try to hug Chronos he will stab he learned from his mistakes also if you want a reference of what chronos looks like look at RebelQuest
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No. 129745 ID: 5fc3a0

>>129743
Hey, you're welcome to use whatever characters/settings of mine you want in your quest, I don't mind. Thanks for asking though!

With that said, it would be non-canon though for UnSe, so it wouldn't be appropriate to foreshadow anything in those threads. There isn't an active UnSe thread in which to do it anyway, for that matter.
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No. 129748 ID: 34fb21

>>129745
Yeah I guessed this but thanks for responding
Anyways when the quest starts moving things will get crazy seeing as chronos’s reason for heading to the unnatural selection quest first is because of radmin’s little quote about how they are an unsinkable ship he is 100% going to be buried in books about the Bismarck and the Titanic and Chronos is going to probably break the cycle and set everyone free he is the physical manifestation of rebellion and Will after all and radmin just challenged his power
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No. 129749 ID: 34fb21

Before I forget I should tell you about the secret and real reason chronos is embarking on this quest to gather people Chronos is currently facing an existence ending threat by the name of Omni of which one he needs to get an army and also he needs to get stronger in a sense because of the specifics of this mission of his I am considering sending him to fens quest next
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No. 129751 ID: b1b4f3

>>129749
You should make your own questdis thread for talking about your quest, and also probably not spoil potential readers on things that are supposed to be secret.
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No. 129752 ID: 34fb21

Also lagotrope feel free to drop by my quest https://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/937218.html
Anytime and leave any suggestions to what Chronos should do and feel free to use any of my characters or species (except my wraiths they will be more trouble than they are worth) in any of your quests
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No. 129762 ID: 34fb21

Also lastly lagotrope it would be appreciated if you drew the scenes while we are in the Unnatural Selection quest dimension etc etc if you agree to do this I will list the scenes needed on the message board Thank you
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No. 129763 ID: 34fb21

>>129762
By message board I meant discussion board
https://tgchan.org/kusaba/questdis/res/129753.html
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No. 129770 ID: 301982

>>129762
You seem inexperienced with this sort of thing, so you should know it's generally considered pretty rude to ask for free art from someone like that, even if you're already their personal friend, which currently you aren't. Drawing updates for other people's quests is the kind of thing Lagotrope charges money for to earn his living.
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No. 129771 ID: 36980e

Chronos, Lagotrope makes art for a living. What you're asking them basically amounts to "do most of the work so I can leech of your success for free". I can't claim to know how Lagotrope feels about this (I'm guessing flattered but uncomfortable), but I can point out that you're coming off as an entitled narcissist.
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No. 129772 ID: 03ff03

>>129771
I was just asking since it is his own quest I am entering and it isn’t like they haven’t done artwork for others before
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No. 129773 ID: 301982

>>129772
The times Lago's done art for other people before, he either 1) enjoyed their work already, had a good relationship with the person and was happy to give them something as a gift, or 2) got paid to do it.

Now, you come across to me as just someone who's overenthusiastic and doesn't know any better, but listen: when you don't have a relationship with someone besides being a fan of their work, coming up to them and asking to get something substantial like artwork for free means either you don't think their time and skill is worth anything, or that you think you're so amazing that they should be happy just to be associated with you. So either you're being egotistical or you're being insulting, or both.

In any case, you're jumping the gun. Try starting your quest first, getting your main character's abilities and goals introduced properly, hop through some dimensions of your own creation first, THEN start asking people if you can hop into non-canon versions of their quests. Most quests don't last that long, so yours might not either, and it would be a waste to try and get that stuff done ahead of time. Your readers might also not choose to go in that direction. This is an interactive medium, you know? It's not a good idea to get too attached to long-term plans.
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No. 129775 ID: 34fb21

>>129773
Actually lagotrope is fine with me hopping into their quests just not canon for them which of course was why I was asking if they wished to draw their own settings or what not but I admit you do have a point yes I am new to this but it isn’t my first time making stories I would suggest you read the quest I’m working on your critique would be appreciated if You wish but note I am not overly confident with myself my world creations etc. are bursting though if you feel like I should work on something else...
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No. 129776 ID: 5fc3a0

>>129775
To be clearer, while I am saying you're free to use my settings in whatever quests/stuff you make, I've got a lot of things on my plate currently and don't have the time to draw extra side things like this.
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No. 129778 ID: 34fb21

>>129776
Alright well I’m going to work on something else to get more established before I go dimension jumping
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129877

>>123801

Sorry Wiggler but it has been a year so I feel like I can do a shameless plug for my crew now.

Also this is my first post so correct me if I'm doing anything wrong.
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