>>78121
Really? Because >>77847 and >>/quest/549206 don't sound like jokes to me; it sounds like you really wanted the incest ending. Not trying to be rude here (not to you, anyway) just calling it as I see it. (>>78104) Besides, you don't get a monopoly on incest jokes. Maybe you and the QM are too busy having a lobe-measuring contest to stop the competition and realize that all the jokes you are trying to tell to each other are taken seriously by the other party. But I'm not here for you, I'm here for him.

Yo THE-O, I'm calling you out, bro. (>>78107) I guess old habits are hard to break? Missing the action so much you're trying another take? I'm not here to be a pest, so don't call in mods saying you're being molest-ed. It's just the quality of your sincerity and patience that I've decided to have test-ed.

So what's the game you're playing now, eh, Puppet-Master? Taking another pass at making disaster? First you make a big fuss over sexual relations, and then suddenly decide it's worth all the temptations? You get in an argument with a difficult quest-er, and then suddenly you both are best friends for-ev-er? You turned the fight around and had him eat out of your hand, then you start the fight all over right where it began? Don't pretend that was improvised 'cuz it had to be planned. So what's the skinny, what's the deal? Why are you playing with people's emotions and 'feels'? What's the truth, what's the angle? How do you keep the strings out of a tangle?

Knee-High P.I. 2013/11/30(Sat)12:05 No. 78142 ID: d90912
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>>78141

Oeth 2013/11/30(Sat)12:29 No. 78144 ID: 097017
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>>78141
lolwhut.

>>78142
Hold you're horses there, P.I., let's give him a try.

So, ReGgie! Always nice to hear and see you again. I take it you didn't accept my offer to be your friend? If it's MC c7 that you want to tangle wit', leave QM Theo out of the grittier bit. Let's take it to our personal BDA thread, then and there I can put your fears in their place and your worries to bed.

>THE-O, I'm calling you out, bro.
>then points to my post
I think you're confused.

>>78146
I think he's referring to me "breaking character" or "breaking good."

Before I QM'd I hung out a lot in other people's quests, my favorite was Dungeoneer. In it I tried to be smart, people didn't like it and as a result (and through some un-anticipated circumstances) it blew out of proportion into a full fledged flame-war. After that people have had the perception that I'm a jaded and retaliatory child who can't keep his emotions in check.

If you're reading this, kid, you know who you are. ಠ_ಠ

This fellow was someone who tried to guide and correct me in the finer points of suggesting when that turned into another argument (though this time it wasn't with me.) He's essentially saying that he doesn't believe I'm the 'Mr. Nice Guy' I'm trying to make myself out to be, and that I have some sort of agenda with the recent discussion between me and A(nonymous) Cow(ard).

Since then people have been wary of me in other quests, for which I don't blame them.



But never mind that ancient history; there was a chess game between the two of us that I would love to see finished. Whose turn was it again?

>>78149
Oh. Right. That silliness.

I'm going to continue ignoring it. Really doesn't do anything bringing it up again.

>there was a chess game between the two of us that I would love to see finished. Whose turn was it again?
Yours. My last move was:

>>/quest/548048
>(And speaking of pawns. a3).

I did love subverting the senseless murder quest by quietly playing a game of chess in the background. (I'm surprised no one complained, really!). But I made a rule to myself I was only going to move if I had something to suggest, and since the quest hasn't updated in two weeks we're probably not going to finish that.

I suppose the nice game of chess outlasting the murder game is a victory of sorts, in and of itself.

>>78149
Rhyme-guy is definitely confused. I mean, we're not friends.

Seriously though, sorry for my part in transforming him into. This. Hope he doesn't drag your quest down.

Oeth 2013/11/30(Sat)15:23 No. 78156 ID: 097017
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>>78154
Not friends as in you and he, or not friends as in you and me?

Also don't take responsibility for someone else's mistakes unless you're like their parent, a close relative or close friend because otherwise you really don't have to.

But I accept the apology; it was thoughtful of you. Yes, sometimes we invest a lot of thought, effort and energy in something that weighs heavily on our minds and when somebody else treats that same subject lightly... well we get carried away in our emotions. I understand, been there before.

But have you seen the rest of this disc tho? Couldn't drag me down if you tied me to the titanic and ran me into an iceberg. In other words: "dun Murray abawt-it."

> But have you seen the rest of this disc tho? Couldn't drag me down if you tied me to the titanic and ran me into an iceberg. In other words: "dun Murray abawt-it."

I hope thats not a crack at us, your faithful following. And... weren't you about to close the whole discussion thread and start a new one not even a few days ago?

>>78159
Ka-Shh! Besides, that was because I thought I was in the wrong, and not due to the decisions of other people.

>>78150
here's the play-by-play so far:
WY: e3
BM:e7-e5
WY:Na3
BM:Nf6
WY:Nc4
BM:Pe4
WY:Nh3
BM:Nc6
WY: a3

I've got the chessboard still set up in my parlor. I just pretend you sneak into my house and move the pieces when I'm not looking.

>>78156
You and I are not friends, so his suggestion that some kind of conspiracy was carried out against him between the two of us is silly. There's no camaraderie between us two, just a mutual understanding. The fact that our understanding of it is different isn't particularly relevant.

We clearly have different values, the sum total of my emotional investment in the entire saga hasn't exceeded very mild irritation. What's important is not making asses of ourselves and each other anymore, or at least as often. Which we accomplished.

I have a bad habit of pursuing ever finer degrees of understanding when it isn't productive or welcome so I'll shut up now.

>>78162
> have a bad habit of pursuing ever finer degrees of understanding when it isn't productive or welcome so I'll shut up now.

Nonono, that's fine. I welcome your discourse here! Feel free to dissect, analyze, split hairs and count peanuts; by all means, make yourself at home.

A few things I should have clarified:

> A(nonymous) Cow(ard).

Is a handle ID 36c336 jokingly applied to himself, so it does not refer to you or our conversation but rather him and my conversation with him.

> Yes, sometimes we invest a lot of thought, effort and energy in something that weighs heavily on our minds and when somebody else treats that same subject lightly... well we get carried away in our emotions. I understand, been there before.

Applies just as much to me and rhymefellow as it does to you.

> Nonono, that's fine. I welcome your discourse here!

Speaking of which I should have thanked Pantalaimon and other familiar anonymous suggester for their contributions...

>Still, be careful what you wish for and what you say in the story thread
...wasn't the conversation you're referring to almost exclusively in dis? :V

Also, wow, lotta greentext and non-update in that update.

>>78141
I'm trying to provide useful guidance to someone that seems to be a novice questfaggot. I'm gambling that they have adequate brainpower that it's worth it to try and school them in questing.
Frankly, namefaggot drama is dumb, and boring: People need to learn that anonymity is a really good thing. It allows us to minimize the 'halo effect.*' This allows more lulz, makes it easier to ignore dumb, and helps people get past remembering how dumb you were when you learn better. However, since it seems Theo didn't lurk moar we have to either deliver the lessons they should've learned by lurking moar or shun them until they've lurked moar. Maybe you should lurk moar, namefaggot.
I'm indirect in how I explain shit because most people think they, and their ideas and beliefs, are smarter than they really are. So you have to go around them thinking they're right to the dumb reasons that they think they're right. I find it tedious but the alternative is to just ignore them.
If you want me to stop that's negotiable. I want more quests without weeaboo and furfaggotry that I don't have to run myself: Make an offer.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect

>>78148
>>78164
You had just made a startling admission that you hadn't gone as far as making a creation myth. This seems oddly negligent since the question of why gods exist, what they do, and how they're different from mortals tends to flow from it. I mean you made a statbuilder system first before starting, but no creation myth for a deity setting, WTF?
Let me try to explain why I think this is pants-on-head retarded. In D&D tabletop the base assumptions you work with are different: They've built a superstructure of fantasy-avatars, murder, statbuilder and ruleslawyering, that means that a novice DM can and will be told to stop worldbuilding and let them get to the fantasy genocide. In a sense that statbuilder and those rules are the true setting and story, and whatever fantasy 'fluff' the DM comes up with is a distraction from the real game--they want their barrels of shiny loot and furlongs of XP so they can start pimping their *personal* fantasy-avatars and play the actual Player's Guide min-maxing game. In contrast, here we don't have those same base features: The player character is shared between the players unless you're doing something experimental and weird, so the 'fantasy-avatar' and related statbuilder stuff won't work the same way in either direction. That changes the logic of time-to-kobold-murder. This, along with the fact that the QM as a rule is not working from a premade box-set adventure and a premade box-set rules system, causes us to work on a more story- and setting-driven logic of what we can and cannot do.
How to get out of this mess is something I'm less certain about. I'm not sure where to start building your creation myth here because gods erupting, fully-formed, out of primal chaos is generally an early-existence phenomenon. Other explanations for how Tory came to exist as a deity of adult form and no previous memories could include the sort of Athena-birth weirdness that's hard to make up because it's so insane. One more would be that another deity had been destroyed and some impersonal force of reality spawns a replacement out of primal chaos. You can also use my paranoid raving about kidnapping and brainwashing, if you're feeling gutsy and willing to do the homework.
But take the hint here, eh? Your choice of creation myth is directly relevant to the question of where the main character came from and what she's supposed to be doing. That you don't have one is a pretty big fail.

P.S. Anonymous Coward is the default placeholder for names on Slashdot, like 'Anonymous' here in questdis, and 'Suggestion' in quest. Apparently I shouldn't hint around you?

>>78167
Well gee, now the entire post is greentext, and the update I was responding to is gone. :V

(Oh well, I'll fix it when the dialog comes back).

>>78171
I don't know where it went either! WHATS GOING OOOOOON?!

>>78169
Clearly that oddball was right about one thing and that's the communication issues we're having here.

I said that I hadn't 'gotten to' the origin story (WITH YOU EMPHASIS ADDED) yet, not that I simply waived on making one. There's more than one way to interpret that statement and I'd at least appreciate the benefit of the doubt when it comes to the specifications of my own story.

Look, I'm just going to take a break now. I'm going to try and look for the file that contained recent post (because every other one is neatly lined up in my folders as they should be.) It's clear to me some heads need to stoke and simmer before this quest can meaningfully continue. I enjoy being open and conversational with you guys but if that leads you to believe you can act out like that and expect me to thank you for it you're mistaken. Expect next update sometime next January. Meanwhile I need to do some back-to-back sessions of Insanity and get these bad vibes out of my system.

For what it's worth, the copy-editing stuff was meant as light teasing, not a criticism. It happens to all of us.

And yeah, try not to let Apple Candy there get under your skin.

My apologies; that was an immature response. Name-calling and defamation (with one exception) really don't faze me, but I guess there are two things that strike a nerve; someone who questions my thoughtfulness and dedication to a project and thatotherthing.

Still, there will be a short hiatus on this quest because there will be much travel in December (both for business and holiday), because I want to learn how to pace myself for the next thread (which will have images) and because I'm also going to be starting another quest (Midnight Exhibition) soon. Ya'll make a great readership, and despite that difficulties naturally arise in any endeavor you've all been a pretty superb crew throughout... though it seems our Magnificent Seven has been reduced to Three Amigos for that first bout of turbulence.

Some other things:

>>78168
I do lurk, but what's said by anonymous stays anonymous.

Yes, I'm aware I don't do a good job copy-editing my own work; I'm preparing a prettier version of it that will read better, have a little more detail and have all those pretty pictures I've been holding out on you. >>78169 Yeah, I don't get around the net much. Mostly it's work-related, academic or social (with personal friends.) Some added context for all your young-people things would help a lot.

Oeth 2013/12/01(Sun)13:59 No. 78183 ID: 097017
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>>78181
I actually like his fiestyness... just not when the brunt of it is focused at me. I mean he can be a jerk, but he makes it work for him.

It takes diff'rent strokes, ya know?

>>78179
>> There's more than one way to interpret that statement and I'd at least appreciate the benefit of the doubt when it comes to the specifications of my own story.

Well okay then. Forgive me for not understanding you, but I thought it would be obvious from reading the thread that you hadn't told us the creation myth yet. Having one and not telling it yet makes perfect sense because it's good form to establish some character and scene first before you get us to ask for the TL;DR paragraphs.
In light of that, which I thought was obvious, it seemed like you could only mean that you hadn't made your creation myth yet. Please excuse the interpretation error, but I like to think it wasn't unreasonable.

>>78182
Sorry, but I was generally telling off the "RG" trollan namefaggot, dissecting how they had nothing to say and shouldn't be saying it. If they'd been anonymous I wouldn't have responded, and in hindsight we wuz all trolld gud by that faggot.

If I had a point for you in there it would have been that their excuse to driveby namefaggot-drama wouldn't have existed if you hadn't used a name where you don't need one.

>>78184
>>78185
Water under the bridge, friend. I'm too slick to hold a grudge; always slides right off.

\:^D

I'm not so convinced that troll was actually who he claimed, though. My impression of that the real RG namefellow doesn't match with this guy's attitude. The Reggie I talked with was classier than that. When he wanted to talk to you he took you aside rather than making a mess in the thread. His rhyming sounded like urbane poetry rather than urban street-freestyle. Plus, none of the ID's he used matched this guy's.

>>78185
It's worth pointing out that name or no, a guy who rhymes constantly is making themselves visible. Lots of people have distinctive styles, in a low-traffic site like this it's not hard to make educated guesses about the identities of others. Also there's the whole IDs thing.

My point is that anonymity isn't actually a cornerstone of this community, like it is of some others. By incessantly complaining about them, you're being the asshole.

>>78190
Fellas, please. You're welcome to insult me (with the two mentioned exceptions) but I'm not comfortable with someone naming one of my guests a poopy sphincter, whether you yourself have guest status or no. There's an old saying in the 'States that's a shame they don't say anymore;

> "Your rights end at my nose."

It means that the rights and privledges you enjoy as a citizen of that nation are waived the moment you infringe on someone else's. The same applies here.

> It's worth pointing out that name or no, a guy who rhymes constantly is making themselves visible. Lots of people have distinctive styles, in a low-traffic site like this it's not hard to make educated guesses about the identities of others.

Maybe so, but due to some recent events, the loss of my data and some key elements in that troll's writing that sound uncannily familiar, I'm inclined to believe it's someone I know getting back at me for chastising him in front of his high school buddies. I can't say for certain, but I know this kid to be a real tricky dick; chances are he installed a key logger in this comp. We'll see his reaction after he reads this.

Anuses not okay, dicks just fine. Noted.

>>78190
>>78191
It's an argument about a culture/code of conduct question on tgchan, and not discussion about the Table of the Gods quest. Belongs in meep.
I will comment that asshole and impatient can be indistinguishable, because they're often the same thing. In that vein I'll let wikipedia do some of my explaining for me:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_pleading

What I actually meant to ask about is my latest quest response. It responds to post-parts that aren't even up on the thread anymore. Should I pull it?

>>78194
Ha! Yes, precisely. It's worth noting I'm describing a family member, but its quite correct all the same.

>>78195
No, please keep it there. I can't find the file and so I'm trying to reconstruct the latest post before I pause the quest. Actually, any help you could provide from memory would be much appreciated.

>>78198
I can't remember the post word for word, but I suggest hopping on irc and asking a mod for help. Brom and his ilk can see deleted posts, and could fill you in on the dialog of uncle mindreader that you accidentally lost revising the post.

>>78198
>No, please keep it there. I can't find the file and so I'm trying to reconstruct the latest post before I pause the quest. Actually, any help you could provide from memory would be much appreciated.

Hadn't said much, actually. It seemed like a less-than-half-finished update: Other than yet another poke at us to inquire about Elene's "father" it was mostly a couple conversational responses to some of our previous responses.

>>78204
yes. Ends up I probably realized that and retracted the story in order to make it seem more finished. Left to eat food, then came back and thought I was done so I turned off the computer and went to bed. All fixed now! Turning my attentions to new quest for a wee bit then I'll see if I can juggle both.

I've never run quests, but from observation it looks like juggling multiple quests leads to burnout unless you have plenty of time and attention for all of them: What do you do when there's fifty suggestion responses on a half-dozen quests to go through and most of them aren't worthless?
That said, try it if you really want, you may find a quest you may want to run more than this one. Enjoying what you do is one of the secrets to diligence and achievement.

>>78289
Fortunately for me I don't seem to have that problem; most of my audience seems to be driven off by my winning charm, humility and abundance of pretty pictures.

As for time and attention, that gives me another wonderful opportunity to prattle about myself. Luckily (or unluckily for some as they would choose to have it) My jobs are exceptionally flexible, essentially allowing me to set my own schedule for most of them, 2/3rds of which allow me to work from home.

In effect, I have one day job that occupies my week with

>>78289
I don't seem to have that problem; most of my audience seems to be driven off by my winning charm, my consistent maturity, my dignified humility and an abundance of pretty pictures.

As for time and attention, that gives me another wonderful opportunity to prattle about myself. Fortunately (or unfortunately for some as they would choose to have it) My jobs are exceptionally flexible, essentially allowing me to set my own schedule for most of them--2/3rds of which allow me to work from home. In effect, I have one day job that occupies my weekdays, a series of investments that I check on periodically throughout the day and one freelance occupation that I set appointments for on weekends and make progress with in the evenings. That may sound like a lot at first, but if you actually saw how much time I actually need to spend working rather than just playing at work you'd say I had it easy.

Dear intriguing and mysterious stranger,

I have been reading your quest and have found it somewhat to my liking, but I with my outsider's perspective, I've noticed a few things that, if altered, could improve your quest.

1- Your writing could use some draftsmanship. You tend to repeat the same words too frequently too close together, and while the additional misspellings and grammar issues are commonplace everywhere, they tend to be avoidable. It's also almost in-real-time in its slow pace--which isn't necessarily a bad thing--but such a style tends to lend itself to an older audience; the same kind of audience that still communicates with people via hand-written letters and expect intermissions when watching feature films.

b) Mechanics could use refinement. Though you evidently put some though into its base, it seems you retrofitted the rules of one of your other games to apply to quest format. You have said that you're working on a fix for the next thread, so I suppose you can just take this as a reminder rather than a correction.

III. While I would be thrilled and privileged to have you autograph my body in person, it's not your person or even your brilliant, superior intellect that interests me here in tgchan. It's the quest. A lot of your posts that aren't about the quest tend to be a bit, shall we say, self-indulgent.

>>78300
Why thank you handsome sounding stranger that I'm certain I've never met, I'll take your advice to heart (don't expect me to sign anything tho)

So I got down with a gnasty bug, been bedridden for a day and a half. Decided now that I have the time I'll take the silver lining and knit out the rest of this story. Temporary lift on the temporary haitus; maybe I can get this thread done in the time it takes to overcome this virus.

Alright so, after doing some self examination on my string of heinous shenanigans, I've decided I can't meaningfully adjust to this community ( that and my other writing community gave me an ultimatum for all the bad publicity I've given them.) So I'm packing up my quests and shipping them over to 4chan/tg/ or Author Wars where either ppl don't care or some editor more even-keeled than I am will manage the story-, format-, copyediting and distribution aspect of the creative process respectively. I know I've backed out of some things I said I'd do before, but its getting ridiculous; If I can't get with the program I'd better just hit the road, Jack. All I have left to do is ask all past participant questers to grant me intellectual property rights to Tory's character elsewhere since you were the ones that actually made her. I'm not going to wait until everybody that ever suggested posts, just enough to give me some peace of mind. If there's no other matter or loose ends to tie off I'll be off.

Jeeze, you're bailing because of the stupid fight you had in meep?

Just drop those fights, and stop worrying about them. The people who enjoy reading your quest enjoy it, and don't give two shits about 'em. Drama blows over if you let it.

And copy editing / format problems tend to go away with practice.

If you do go, I'll be disappointed to see this die. But yes, ultimately it's your choice, and yes, you can still do whatever you want with your characters.

This is not about an argument in meep, this is about my impulse to shit post in other people's threads. I'm not being dramatic, I'm being practical. In the Middle East there is a saying:

Whatever happens just once will never happen again, but anything that happens twice will assuredly happen a third time.

So as much as I'd like to believe I can just pull up my pants and self-discipline the stupid out of me, I really don't trust myself enough with other people's quests. Again, you tell your self it's just as simple as just deciding not doing it, but it isn't. You get soft and cocky and lo an behold a week passes and you've done it again. Fact is I'm addicted to being a dumbass, and I either keep pissing people off here or I go somewhere people tolerate my shit. This doesn't mean you guys can't still participate, but I just want to rid myself of the temptation to belabor someone else's pride and joy with my inanity. This is especially true in Arhra's Dungeoneer. I mean their quest has already endured a lot of really crazy stuff, the last thing they need is for me to add my dung to the top of the pile.

It may not feel like it sometimes, but we're in control of how we react to things. Especially so in a medium like this, where you're perfectly capable of reading over, revising, or even completely scrapping what you wrote before ever hitting reply. Self control can really be as simple as how long you choose to think on something.

If you don't trust yourself in other people's quest threads, then, well, don't post in them until you do. Although, really, your worst examples of "being a dumbass" have been in meep or dis, anyways. (And you're hardly the nuttiest in dungeoneer). Worst I think you've done in a quest thread was multipost something that would have been better off in dis, but you're hardly the first person to get carried away like that.

I think you're overrating, but whatever. Can't hold you here. Do as you will.

>>78720
Wiiiiiimp.

Puuussssssssy.

You keep saying
http://youtu.be/xXDC89tZ4IQ

But all I hear is
http://youtu.be/AWczDzmqVBI

Pathetic.

Addiction to acting like a moron on the internet?
If you could get along with using a substitute location for this there are options. Slashdot has a mostly-useful way of tolerating such foolishness.
http://slashdot.org/

The internet is large, there are many places that idiocy is expected. I'd suggest using them for their specialties, and use tgchan.org for questing.

Oh dont indulge the drama queen, he'll be back. Don't buy his hurfdurfdurf nonsense, either. His problem is he's infatuated with everyone he meets and wants to swan dive into their pants. When he catches himself and feels guilty he goes chicken little and pretends the sky is falling, then it's rinse, lather and repeat.

(Sounds like you two have some issues to work out. Do it somewhere else, friend.)

New management?

It means I'm taking over this quest for an unspecified period of time.

>>78811
In what capacity? Co-author, editor / buffer, replacement...?

>>78813
Writing replacement. Notes and art were handed off to me. Previous author will act as a consultant for stuff I don't understand, but from now 'till who knows when it'll be my rodeo.

>>78816
Need to ask us anything or are you all set for the next update?