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83716 No. 83716 ID: 61da19

After quite the low period and a surgery, I'm finally back in action and ready for the comeback of a lifetime! To celebrate my revival, I'm making a brand new dis thread!

I have a Patreon now! You can show your support, and allow me to spend more time working on updates! http://www.patreon.com/user?u=208009

a new Boatface Adventure will begin soon!
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No. 83717 ID: 1f8505

Wait, surgery?
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No. 83723 ID: 61da19

Yeah I got my gallbladder removed because gallstones.
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No. 83724 ID: 53548a

Good. Welcome back.
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No. 83733 ID: 9ddf68

I have no idea what to say so I'm just going to say glad to see you're back and glad that you're feeling better. this place just wasn't the same without you.
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No. 83763 ID: 2fd516

>>83723
Removed due to gallstones? I thought those could be dealt with without removing the whole thing.
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No. 83769 ID: 2f4b71

>>83763
Depends on the number and size of the stones. Numerous or large stones cannot be effectively broken up by ultrasound into small enough pieces to pass.
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No. 83961 ID: 61da19
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83961

>>83769
Yeah they were kinda bad.


Anyway, Retcon quest is go! For the newer audience, here are the first two Venji Quests (the first thread is ...a little rough, so be aware that it's an older quest).

Venji http://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/247108.html
Thread 2: http://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/233213.html
Thread 3:http://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/270556.html

Venji 2: Boatface Adventures http://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/413494.html
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No. 84135 ID: 61da19

My patreon has hit the second stretch goal! So look forward to color!

We also hit the goal where I update three times a week. It'll usually be mon-wed-fri, but that will change around depending on how I feel. sometimes I might update daily and take a big break, and sometimes I'll just feel bad and end up going into the weekend. but three a week is something I intend to keep up!
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No. 84275 ID: 9ddf68

ok after actually seeing that tezakians have guns in the draw thread, it remind me of a question I had awhile ago about the tech in the tezakia quest universe.

The Tezakians seem to be somewhere around WW1 tech (based off that I've only seen them with bombs and now what look like bolt-action rifles and seem to be wearing something similar to old fashion British uniforms I've seen)

Lains seem to be around our tech level but with older model computers/software but kick ass stealth tech

Diubans I have no idea on other then they have some really good dart guns

and finally Klis-Khar seem to be just way the fuck out there in levels of tech as in lasers and shit. so if you wouldn't mind telling just what are each races tech levels... and if you want just any world building info you have I'd be grateful.

Also figured since you had a discussion thread up I'd post the question here instead of fulling up your art thread with text walls
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No. 84324 ID: 9b35bd
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84324

"..."

"You're on, ma'am."

"You gonna' help me? Whatever."

"Okay! Sergeant Iskali, Finch 2.3. So you wanna' know about tech levels? Well the first thing you gotta' realize is technology in out world is a bit anachronistic to your world, big surprise with bird people and venomous spinetails, so technology does not follow any specific period, but I'll try and provide a rough estimate or something ask Kizina for her notes later.

Tezakia, may Mother forever watch over us, falls roughly into the Fifties and Sixties with some variance. Tezakia is a large, populous, and primarily agrarian nation with something to the tune of 80-90% of our civvies living rural. While boastin' plenty of birdpower, a combination of said large population and an unwillingness from the Father to increase industrialization at the risk of starvation make us the least industrialized nation. Your Soviet union went much the opposite way, rampin' up industry at the expense of food production. That said, what industries we have produce things sturdy and reliable, rigorously tested and made cheap, so we take a while to field something new, but good luck permanently breakin' it once you finally get one. Yeah, we still use bolt-actions and have crappy radios, but we have television and portable recording devices and simple vacuum tube tech too. We can fly too! Only the Klis-Khar have powered flight and even they haven't really developed it much. I mean why would they when you can just hire a Tezakian to carry your stuff? We also leech fancier electronics from the Klis-Khar, but more on that in a moment.

Lialisandi is a bit more advanced than us, but don't go thinkin' they're all stealth devices and Diubanshit. Those fancy cloakers they buy 'em from Klis-Khar arms dealers and they ain't cheap! Pity the companies that sell to Lialisandi don't sell to Tezakia and vice versa, Akiyatat would kill for a cloaker fit for a peep. Tangent aside, Lians are closer to the Eighties and early Nineties. They have computer technology from about that time period, but even that level has amazing technological capabilities compared to our vacuum tube stuff. They try to advance as quickly as they can, often fieldin' things that are barely tested. That, along with their strange feudally industrialized society, leads to wildly different standards of production, with some lines being somewhat hardy but a lot being very fragile. They are much more industrialized than the Tezakians still.

Diuban isn't too much different from Tezakia or Lialisandi in terms of development. Just slot em where you like on a time scale. That said they are largely peaceful and neutral in the conflict. Lucky them.

The Klis-khar are a bit a a mystery. They got better toys than all of us and they ain't sharin' any of it. Well most of it. Put them some time ahead of the present date. Two-thousands and forward. From computers to energy weapons to magic science crap they got it. Sometimes they might even deign to sell it to another nation but only at a hefty price knowing full well no one else got the chops to copy their stuff yet. Their warmongers sell to both sides bigger and better stuff to keep the war going and the cash rolling not that either side'd stop until we draw our last breath or the lizzie menace is removed. Remove Lian!

I hope this answered some of your questions. Iskali, signing off."

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No. 84428 ID: 61da19

Gee golly, that sure is interesting! Gosh, I wonder what the differences in male and female heights are!
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No. 84429 ID: 926adc

>>84428

Why, that's a plum hum-dinger of a question! If there was only some kind of comparison of the two side-by-side!
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No. 84435 ID: d6e000

[Thinly veiled request for exposition]
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No. 84457 ID: 98ecbf
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84457

"Ma'am, they're making 'thinly-veiled requests for exposition...'"

"About what?"

"Bird bits."

"Not my job. IKESSA!"

"Don't you have enough experience with bird bits to explain, sarge?"

"Yeah, yeah. Utilize that wonderful personality of yours and explain them some anatomy."

"I don't see why this needs explainin' to anyone with eyes, sarge, but whatever.

Okay, Trooper Ikessa here, medic of Finch 2.3 and former civvie surgeon. You want to know some basic stuff like gender differences? Alright, whatever.

The first difference you'll probably notice is coloration. Males are generally very brightly colored, with feathers of red, gold, et cetera. Females tend towards darker hues of similar colors, along with drab colors like brown. The more brightly colored a male is, the better they look, while females generally aren't judged on color. I know this guy, a fellow doctor and real prick named Salati, who's bright enough to rival the damned sun. The guy gets a fucking line o' peeps at the bath when he goes to wash himself; shows how far nice plumage goes.

The second obvious difference is size. Gals average about 5'9" and naturally have more muscle mass. That's not to say dudes can't be strong as well; even if they average 5'6" and are a bit more flighty, I've met a few with a mean right hook. Hell, my squad has some tough-ass girls, but when we did melee training the other day, the one (besides yours truly, o' course) who made a perfect run through the course was a dude. Hit like a freight train, but I still beat 'em when we sparred.

There's also a difference in how the feathers sit. Males have feathers that point upwards; some males might have tall enough feathers to where they can go over a girl's head. The tail is the same, as they're perky things. They stick up all the time, stiff. Good ta grab 'em by, make 'em flustered, but ya might get whacked with one if a guy is rushin' around in a hurry. And as ya might have guessed, females are the opposites, with their feathers pointed downwards. More bushy. Guys have a tail ya'd play with when idle, but gals have a comfy cushion.

'N lastly, probably the most minor difference is that males have longer ears than females. The former are kinda flappy and taper more noticeably to their point; you could smack 'em in the face with their own ears. The latter are a bit more stout n' thicker, but not hugely different. Not really much to say on 'em, it's hard to nibble when you have a beak.

I think that covers the obvious stuff. I won't go into the dirty, as even y'all would know that. If ya don't, I shouldn't be explainin' it. Trooper Ikessa signin' off."

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No. 84458 ID: 9ddf68

>>84457
neat... so what about Lialisandi, Diuban, and Klis-khar? I mean Lialisandi aren't to hard to tell the difference unless the check is flat but there could be subtle things that I'm messing, Diuban seem pretty easy to tell apart but might as well hit all the bases, and Klis-khar... I have no earthly clue when it comes to Klis-khar.
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No. 84463 ID: 61da19
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84463

>84458
Lians of the nation Lialisandi have been known to bounce a check or two. I hear their economy is a little touch and go right now. Diubans, however, almost never have their checks bounce. They've got some serious accountants over there.

The Klis-Khar, well, they have their own issues...

Anyway, we tell genders apart via pheromones. We judge each other not by looks, but by smell. Or taste. I'm never sure how to explain it to the mammals. The better someone 'smells', the more attractive they are.

For those incapable of knowing our gender through pheromones, your choices are to suffer an eternity of never knowing, or to simply ask. We don't worry about it as much as mammals seem to. All I know is female mammals are rounder and female tezakians are bitchier.
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No. 84572 ID: 96cbb6

Birds: who's the brown voice? Do you have anything like cloaking?

Bugs: what kind of issues?
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No. 84824 ID: 61da19

I have a whole lot of stuff to get done fairly quickly, so I'm pausing the quest until Monday. But worry not, I'll try to make up for this by having a 4th update next week!
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No. 84941 ID: 61da19
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84941

RETCON QUEST UNDER CONSTRUCTION



Ludum dare is tiring. This MINOR PAUSE will be a little longer, then we'll return to our regular schedule, with maybe some bonus updates!!
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No. 84983 ID: 95c255

>>84941
Link to the game?
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No. 85058 ID: 61da19

>>84983
We um... didn't quite get to the game part yet. the LD technically ended in failure, but maybe the game will see light anyway.
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No. 85195 ID: 61da19

Sorry, but I need to pause the quest for a week. I've learned about my sister's struggles with the mental hospital the police forced her to stay in, the drugs they forced her to take, and the control they all took away from her, in response to someone being suicidal.

I'm going to be spending the week figuring out a way to help her, and getting my own life in better gear to make it more possible for me to do so.

You can read about her situation here: http://hungerinnashville.tumblr.com/

Commissions are open to help me get money to help. My paypal and e-mail are Slinkoboy (2+shift) gmail.com

My prices are listed on my FA page: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/ourhero/

Donations are also appreciated if you're feeling super generous, at the paypal above. Right now I'm focusing on both regaining and saving my sister.

Retcon Paused until next Tuesday
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No. 86431 ID: 8a9edc

There's a mountain of IRL stuff going on, and it's going to require my focus for a little bit.

Retcon is going on a brief Hiatus, probably a week. This isn't ideal, but hopefully doing it this way will mean coming back strong and doing the proper update schedule.
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No. 87746 ID: 8a9edc
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87746

You may have noticed a very long period of silence from me. Long story short: Life is hard.

I'm really not in the place to run a pure comedy quest like Retcon currently, and there's some things I want to try, so I'm going to do something unprecedented to slinkoboys: I'm going to let Retcon fall into the Graveyard. Not abandoned, merely... resting, for a better time.

My patreon fell below the 200 level, but Retcon will still be in (relative) color when it returns. But for now, I feel like I need to do something different.

I'm also super indecisive.

Here's a list of things I've been considering:


Ditto Quest 2 - easy to draw, and the ability to double the number of currently running ditto quests with some adorable ditto adventures!

Dragoness Quest (...or whatever i call it) - A dragoness has successfully given herself a smokin' hot (get it) body, and now she has a new mission: Fuck all the man-bitches. Watch as Slink throws away the last of his dignity and draws a sus quest! Could it be that he finally got that 'stick' out of his posterior ??

Tezakia Xmas Party - We come in just before the events of Tezakia 2 to witness the gang celebrate chirpsmas the anniversary of Zalika's forming in a way that's suspiciously close to certain holidays but totally isn't you guys



Of course, it's possible what I really need to do is begin what should have started 4 years ago...
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No. 87747 ID: 13cd06

SUS QUEST AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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No. 87748 ID: 687279

>>87746
Tezakia Xmas Party!!!!!
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No. 87750 ID: d97387

>>87746
Fuck it let's go Tzatziki Quest Xmas Special.
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No. 87751 ID: 9ddf68

>>87746
>Not abandoned, merely... resting, for a better time
as a participant in many of Cirr's quest I have no problem with this, seeing as how he will sometimes abandon a quest for years only to pick it right back up as if nothing has happened. and besides this quest are as much for your enjoyment as they are for us so if you're not enjoying yourself by all means feel free to take a brake.

Also Tezakia Xmas Party
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No. 87753 ID: c9f2af

Sus Quest.
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No. 87755 ID: 98ecbf

>>87746

Tezakian Xmas Party!
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No. 87756 ID: b3dd38

Tezax-mas!
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No. 87757 ID: 9b35bd

Chirpsmas.
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No. 87759 ID: ec0bf5

>>87746
Look, do you remember last time there was a tezakia interlude? I'm not sure there's any reason to believe that the chirpsmas party won't be just as lewd as any sus quest you try. Probably even more so: in an explicitly explicit quest people will likely ignore all of that and try to make plot happen. Whereas in Tezakia people are going to be trying to do nothing but screwing [s]around[/s].

Which sounds fun. Chirpsmas go!
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No. 87760 ID: e34da4

Dat Sus quest tho
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No. 87824 ID: 8a9edc
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87824

Sus quest totally will might possibly run at a future time. But for now, we must consider whose viewpoint to witness this celebration from!

Sekani, the Tezakian Fire Majibeast

Amiel, the Lian Ice Majibeast who i guess i have to reveal now huh

Dilia, the boringly non-majibeast Diuban

Jiniki, Klis-khar Transdimensional Majibeast who's 83 and what is this

Tayza.

or Kinasa, the Tezakian ???? Majibeast who has yet to discover her powers.
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No. 87828 ID: 687279

>>87824
Kinasa, so the christmas miracle can be the manifestation of her powers!
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No. 87830 ID: 9ddf68

well last time we did a thing with the cast we played as Amiel so I'm going to have to go with Kinasa, mostly because if we went as Tayza she'd probably kill everyone when we eventually drive her insane.
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No. 87837 ID: ec0bf5

The others have all gotten their times to shine at one point or another. Where's Kinasa's quest? (Right here. This one.)
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No. 87854 ID: dccc95

Kinasa is still the most adorable.
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No. 87859 ID: ac5f92

Tayza.
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No. 87876 ID: 55c4cf

Dilia. The others can moo-ve over.
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No. 87877 ID: 8a9edc

I am insulted that I can only vote for Tayza once.
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No. 87878 ID: 9b9ee7

>>87824
Kinasa!
Peep Peep slinkoboy!
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No. 87883 ID: 13cd06

Dilia
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No. 87885 ID: 9b35bd

Kinasa
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No. 87886 ID: 98ecbf

>>87824

Kinasa.
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No. 87887 ID: 0b2574

>>87824
Kinaaasa
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No. 87901 ID: 8a9edc
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87901

Kinasa!!!

We've hit a snag, sadly. My tablet's USB port decided not to work no more. This kinda sorta gets in the way of me drawing, like, anything.

Thankfully I don't need a new 400 dollar tablet because of this, as there is a workaround: making my tablet wireless with one of these http://www.amazon.com/Wacom-Wireless-Accessory-Tablets-ACK40401/dp/B006MRAVFE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=141875953
5&sr=8-1&keywords=intuos+5+wireless

Um... oh gosh. um, if anyone is feeling super generous during this holiday season, you'd have my super duper omega appreciation for any donation towards this workaround goal. my paypal is at slinkoboy atsymbol gmail.com. t-thanks
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No. 87911 ID: 8a9edc
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87911

It's taken care off, so you can disregard the above post. The quest will hopefully begin before we run out of holiday season!

ADORABLE PEEPS AND REVEALING AMIEL 4.0 IS GO
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No. 92069 ID: 8a9edc

I think most of the folks who care know what's up, but just in case:

Life got really uh, life-y. This sapped me of any motivation to draw or quest.

But things are getting better! I intend to see about reviving my quests and redoing my patreon to give a proper reward that doesn't overwhelm me (patreon-only comic, maybe?)

So just sit tight, and hopefully my longest hiatus to date is nearing its end.
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No. 92082 ID: 9ddf68

>>92069
glad to see you're back, sorry life got crummy for you for a bit there.
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No. 92804 ID: 518b46

MOVING COMPLETE

I'm going to be easing back into things! For the moment, TEZAKIAN HOLIDAY will run kind of alone, likely to completion

Slissa and Retcon! might run along side each other once things get rolling!

The Patreon is going to be redone. For the moment it just means: Slissa is in color, Retcon is in limited color, and Holiday is in black/white.
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No. 92806 ID: 742b4a

Hooray! Welcome back, slinko.
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No. 94282 ID: 395c02

Hi! just some basic stuff:

Slissa Quest is going to start MONDAY, though I am going to wait on setting an update schedule as I'm still getting things together.

The patreon is going to be redone soon, with the rewards being easier for me to handle. One of those rewards will be a comic! I'm still figuring out what that'd be about, so stay tuned!
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No. 94886 ID: 395c02

So um.

I may have played undertale so much that the controller usage aggravated a wrist problem I have to the point that drawing is pain so um

slissa quest paused for a couple days while i recover sry
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No. 94924 ID: a19cd5
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94924

HEY SPEAKING OF UNDERTALE
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No. 95705 ID: 395c02

i've been ill for a few days so i'm going to rest a bit, so SQ might be (even) slower for a few days s-sorry

also if you really really hate jiniki as a spoiler image, clear your cache and she'll vanish forever yaaaaaay
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No. 95709 ID: 276bd2

> clear your cache and she'll vanish forever yaaaaaay
Noooooo, I like her. We can take it down when goes all evil overlord but that's still a long ways off
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No. 95710 ID: f8b4f5

>>95705
Is that why it got changed? Did people really complain? Jesus.
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No. 95711 ID: c43722

>>95710
Naw, that wasn't it. What happened was there was a discussion yesterday on IRC that the old spoiler image having Jiniki didn't make sense to newcomers who haven't read Slinko's work. That led to a thread on replacing it being made in general discussion (>>/meep/27356.) Pop over there if you want to throw your two cents in.
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No. 95719 ID: 2eeb65

Awww, I liked the old spoiler image.
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No. 95748 ID: dccc95

The old spoiler was nice
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No. 95992 ID: 395c02
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95992

Speaking of things an 80 year old child would cover her eyes over, i was urged to make this pack containing nearly every naughty image i drew from 2008 to today.

The pack is full of personal art, so it's mostly F, F/F, and F/M. There's a couple of dicks and even 2 animated dicks, but this doesn't have much beyond that for people who like M or M/M. Sorry!

A huge chunk of this pack is slinko quest ladies (amiel, dilia, nokizanya, etc)

I also drew 5 new images specifically for this pack. How exciting!

IF YOU'RE INTERESTED YOU CAN GRAB THIS OMEGA PACK HERE: http://slinketza.itch.io/the-missing-slink

ok back to drawing slissa quest
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No. 95993 ID: 5ad4a7

>>95992
Hey, you didn't say it was 10 bux.
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No. 95995 ID: 395c02

>>95993
Whatcha mean? That the post itself doesn't say?
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No. 95996 ID: 5ad4a7

>>95995
Yeah. I mean it's not super important but I thought it was gonna be just a download link.
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No. 95997 ID: 395c02

Ah, I'm sorry, it just didn't occur to me. Well, anyone reading now knows, r-right?
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No. 96000 ID: 5ad4a7

>>95997
Yeah.
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No. 96008 ID: 395c02
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96008

i've been told to clarify that this pack, which is 10bux (or more if you feel generous!) is largely made up of images that have never been posted anywhere, and will never be posted anywhere.

Still, if this isn't your thing, but you still want to support me, there's always my patreon.

Either way, I hope you continue to enjoy my quests! <3 <3 <3

</shameless shilling>
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No. 96036 ID: ea0ad9

>>95993
Uh, now that I read that post I realize it doesn't actually say it costs money, but, y'know, I kind of assumed my first time through it was just a for-money pack.
Especially since it was implied that these were "missing" from free works.
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No. 96127 ID: 395c02
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96127

So! In actual quest news:

My main computer (laptop) is in for repairs! And the backup computer is really hard to draw on! The sai pen hates me and all I stand for, so the art comes out worse and it's much harder to form coherent lines. You may or may not have noticed this in the recent slissa quest update.

Either way, this is your chance to help me decide what to do for the .5-1.5 months my actual good computer is actual gone!

http://strawpoll.me/6049952


If SQ keeps going, I'll do my best to fight against the machine.

Hugs 2 (aka GIANT KETZA QUEST) is written by Typo, it's the one with the big ketza and female chei! ("CHEI WASN'T ALWAYS FEMALE????"),

a Tumblr ask was a Patreon Goal! I will likely do a single one for all characters, and it winning the vote means I do it like next week, instead of "kinda soon maybe possibly"

Retcon Quest is this one: http://tgchan.org/kusaba/graveyard/res/585201.html
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No. 96139 ID: 395c02

YOU HAVE SPOKEN!

SOON: TUMBLR ASKS AND KETZA COMICS OH MY

Slissa quest will pause for now, but I'll try to work on ~something special~ for it in the meantime. Tilde.
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No. 96200 ID: 395c02

http://askslinkochars.tumblr.com/

WELP PATREON GOAL HAS LED TO ME GOING ALL SOCIAL MEDIA

IT ITCHES
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No. 96396 ID: 395c02
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96396

MY COMPUTER HAS BEEN RETURNED WOO.

But now I'm HORRIBLY BEHIND ON ALL THE THINGS

Slissa Quest is going to revive around January 1st and will hopefully enjoy a nicer update schedule for a while since I was getting kind of burned out near the end anyway.

I'm not doing an x-mas quest this year, but uh... i guess you can ASK x-mas type questions on the ask Tumblr linked above????

Also have this FUTURISTIC KLIS-KHAR ROBOT.
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No. 96847 ID: 395c02
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96847

"It's January! That means we get to come back, right!?"
"I sure hope so."

I'M WORKING ON IT
QUEST SOON
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No. 96917 ID: 395c02

SLISSA IS BACK

ADULT NATURED PATREON DRAGONESS QUEST SOON

I MIGHT DIE
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No. 96920 ID: 5ad4a7

>>96917
DON'T DIE

IF YOU'RE DEAD YOU CAN'T DRAW PORN
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No. 96923 ID: dbf021

>>96917
Don't worry, you'll survive (probably)! The dreaded nsfw patreons didn't kill Lago at least, so we know they're not guaranteed lethal.
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No. 97088 ID: 395c02

Okay! So you know, it's prooobably going to be two Dragon Romance updates to 1 slissa quest update.

Slissa quest is very slow to make due to all the shading... so I might actually stop shading it if/when we actually make it to "outside". It looks pretty, but each slissa quest update takes the better part of a day if I don't take a bunch of shortcuts!

But I'll try to do 2 dragonesses and 1 slissa a week for now, depending on what else is going on.

speaking of other things, I randomly update my ask blog so you can get more Slinkoboy Shenanigans there! http://www.askslinkochars.tumblr.com

so far I've answered every question I've gotten (even if just to have someone go 'wat') so don't be shy~!
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No. 97100 ID: cf91e4

Good luck sorting through all of these combos Slinko.
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No. 97104 ID: 9815dc

With this many votes, maybe it would be best to tally up the most popular for each slot and then ask to vote again among just those?

It might have been better to have one vote for the primary and then another vote among the remainder for secondary.

Voting systems in quests get pretty messy.
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No. 97105 ID: a22f87

>>97104
or you could just grab a piece of paper, right down all the powers and just put a P or something for primary every time someone voted it for a primary and a S for secondary then just count them up.
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No. 97110 ID: 395c02

In my defense I normally get 5-10 suggestions, not 40. <:3

In general though I have a loosy-goosy style to questing. It's less about numbers or hard limits and more about what general ideas are agreed on and how they fit into some kind of story.

So what I end up doing might not always be the best way to do things, but I try in the end to go with the idea the suggestors end up presenting to me the strongest.

...That and I assumed nobody would want 5 updates of chargen before we get to the proper quest. But maybe you do???
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No. 97111 ID: 5ad4a7

I wanted double fire :(
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No. 97113 ID: a22f87

>>97111
looking back fondly on the days of kirby 64 are we?
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No. 97467 ID: 5ad4a7

SlinkoB what do feminine and masculine mean exactly, here?
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No. 97554 ID: 395c02

>>97467
whoops i should probably look over here more. uh basically how "girly" or "tomboy" she's going to act. her tastes in clothing (dresses? suits?), body language, even how she talks.

it doesn't affect sexial orientation or anything like that. I mean, given the nature of the quest, she's probably Bi anyway ~

or you could see it as "she turns out more like jiniki or tayza". the votes landed on her being...uh... dilia? i should make a lady-ness chart

----
Anyway. My PARTNER IN CRIME, Typo, is gone for a week, so I'm going to focus on catching up on things I fell behind on. Dragon Romance is semi-paused for a week. It might update once or twice, depending how i feel, but it might not!!!

but it'll definitely resume a normal schedule next MONDAY.
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No. 97687 ID: 395c02

turns out i took a proper break after all.

ASK BLOG STUFF TOMORROW, QUEST RESUMES MONDAY



Slissa quest I guess is just paused until I'm in a better place mentally to handle its super workload, or I just give in and stop shading it

but consistencyyyyyyyyyyyy~
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No. 97728 ID: 3d2d5f

>starts a patreon funded lewd quest
>/quest/ decides they'd prefer to delay that to play games with adorable babies
We really do just subvert everything, don't we.
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No. 97729 ID: 5ad4a7

I'm not sure anyone expected the baby-guidance to be quite this involved.
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No. 97732 ID: 665ed8

I think most everyone would of picked baby guidance anyway
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No. 97781 ID: 395c02

wow i wrote the update before looking over here, apparently 6 years of questing has lead to me having a sixth sense for "i wonder if i should maybe pick up the pace"

The pace will increase either way, but I'm offering you guys a choice between highway speed and Voyager 1 speed.

>We really do just subvert everything, don't we.
Mmhmm.
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No. 98246 ID: 5ad4a7

Slinkoboy no
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No. 98272 ID: 395c02

>Slinkoboy no
>If OP was uncomfortable about writing it, then they wouldn't have made it an option in the first place.
or they don't know what they're doing

I didn't think about the implications of the situation at the time-- I was trying to have my cake and eat it too (fun kid adventures, while not making everyone mad at how little porn my porn quest had)

but it'll be fine ok
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No. 98273 ID: 665ed8

Its a damn fun quest regardless, even if we are about to discuss the penis of a small child...
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No. 98276 ID: 395c02
File 145753862588.gif - (48.95KB , 900x600 , 25.gif )
98276

I SHOULD NOTE THAT CHEI IS A GROWN-UP I DIDN'T LITERALLY DRAW CHILD DICK HE'S JUST NOT VERY "ENDOWED" FOR HIS SPECIES AND KETZAS AREN'T SUPER ENDOWED IN GENERAL
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No. 98277 ID: 665ed8

In our defense we did meet him at like an elementary school so it was a fair assumption
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No. 98278 ID: 16daa4

With shapeshifting, do physical stats stack with the form's stats?

Also, since we never got the chance to ask, why was he staring at the robot?
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No. 98279 ID: 395c02

>>98277
yeah i shoulda said somewhere

>>98278
When you press a button on its back it says "BRING IT ON LITTLE BIRDIE" and chei is not a bird

but then it started glowing and moving and that's pretty scary
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No. 98280 ID: a22f87

>>98279
will we see the prince again in the future? he seems like some who would be fun to tormenthang out with.
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No. 98286 ID: 02422f

Why was he even hanging out in the bushes behind a school in the first place. Even without stopping to consider the kinky ribbon, that's odd.
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No. 98314 ID: bd6063

>>98280

Yeah, despite the awkward (albeit entertaining) introduction I'd really like to see him become a recurring character/deuteragonist/future love interest once Ceri's of age ofc or something
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No. 98316 ID: 480a43

or tritagonist or something, as it seems Skif might be a more likely deuteragonist. What do I know though, just throwing ideas out there
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No. 98335 ID: 47160d

What gender is Skif?
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No. 98357 ID: 395c02

>With shapeshifting, do physical stats stack with the form's stats?
They are added to or subtracted from them, so yes??

>>98280
Prolly~

>Why was he even hanging out in the bushes behind a school in the first place. Even without stopping to consider the kinky ribbon, that's odd.
He's odd.

Also always has the ribbon equipped. I mean, it does stop all ailments.

>What gender is Skif?
dude guy. CURSE YOU SECOND PERSON PERSPECTIVE AND LACK OF PRONOUNS
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No. 98361 ID: 47160d

Okay, cause I coulda sworn it was a guy but during the part where we met the prince there was a post where it sounded like he was a female. Thanks for clearing that up, awesome quest BTW :D
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No. 98461 ID: 5ad4a7

Why are people acting like they know who Zesmirl is?
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No. 98577 ID: 395c02

He's a character I just made up for this segment, so... I dunno, maybe they're trying to forge what kind of character he'll be? sometimes stuff like that works in slinkoquests!
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No. 98610 ID: 1862a8

I kind of really want to see that magic snake with TROGDOR arms made out of the noodly magic energy arm stuff.
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No. 98619 ID: 4854ef

What happened to her fangs? They were really prominent before then suddenly disappeared.
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No. 98621 ID: e2db64
File 145845012566.jpg - (42.80KB , 494x752 , snake fang types - Copy.jpg )
98621

>>98619
Snake fangs that fold back when not in use are a thing.
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No. 98630 ID: 395c02
File 145849971454.png - (70.13KB , 800x600 , um.png )
98630

She'll probably show them again if you make her mad! But... you won't do that, r-right?

>I kind of really want to see that magic snake with TROGDOR arms made out of the noodly magic energy arm stuff.
ok
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No. 98634 ID: ab9ddd

>>98630
I don't see any consummate V's
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No. 98648 ID: 395c02
File 145858689108.png - (114.34KB , 800x600 , um2.png )
98648

The arms are...!

ok fine
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No. 98651 ID: 1009ca

>>98648
now it looks like he's sweating
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No. 98689 ID: 395c02
File 145885980539.png - (90.54KB , 800x600 , 116 soft.png )
98689

i thought about it
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No. 98766 ID: 395c02

Dragon Romance will pause for about a week. I need to take some time to catch up on other owed images!

btw it was really hard to count that many votes i'm used to 5 not 50 suggestions what's going on where am i
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No. 98767 ID: 5ff7c7

>>98766

Hey, count yourself lucky they weren't having lively, multi-paragraph discussions about long-term character growth plans and the morality of eating souls, Slinko.
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No. 98784 ID: 395c02

Instead, I seem to get talks of incest and underage shenanigans.

Maybe I should skip to adult-hood already?
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No. 98785 ID: f6442a

>>98784
I thought the Chapter 1 End meant that childhood was already over.
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No. 98786 ID: a22f87

>>98784
i'm 90% positive that it's just a shit poster and you should ignore it. The other 10%... well this is the internet, you're bound to come across at least one creepy fucker. Still ignore it and it will get bored and leave.
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No. 98788 ID: 91ee5f

>>98784
But, awkward teenager stuff! And when I say "awkward", I'm talking about Kinasa levels of awkwardness!
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No. 98789 ID: f6442a

>>98788
Found the 10%.
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No. 98792 ID: f562b1

>>98789
Seriously? Kinasa level awkwardness, she would freak out, get nervous, etc, nothing creepy about it.
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No. 98796 ID: 5ad4a7

I dunno, she doesn't seem to be that awkward. Seems kindof *good* at social situations actually.
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No. 98798 ID: 395c02
File 145963781392.png - (99.55KB , 800x600 , 126.png )
98798

>>98785
shh don't tell anyone but i'm kind of winging it

i wing most quests because bird peep peep get it hahahaha ...

I originally meant to jump to 16-ish, but I also didn't expect to write a moment that screamed "you should end the thread here!!!" at me.

But really, most (all?) of the things we could do at 16 we could just as easily do at 18. It's not like Ceridwen has to immediately drop everything she's doing and go on an adventure just cause she's a young-adult.



Wait, she does? It's actually illegal to not start the adventure the second you hit 18???

WHO WROTE THIS LAW
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No. 98799 ID: 5ad4a7

>>98798
Well in most states 16 is fine but we have to go with the high end.

Also you keep neglecting to say exactly how old Ceri is dangit.
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No. 98800 ID: 67bda9

>>98798

Well sure, Slinko, if you want to be the main character! Just look at every JRPG ever, the protagonists are all high school age or lower. If you're older than 18 then you're the grizzled veteran with years of combat experience who serves as a foil for the younger characters. That's how things go!

Seriously though it depends. If we're talking adorable stumbling awkward first experiences in romance then I for sure want to see some of that go down, and 16 or 17 is about the age for it. In regards sexual content, I think 16 is about the cut-off point where it starts being acceptable. Like at that age for sure they're going at it with each other, and while it's still wrong for older people to go after them it's like understandable that the attraction would be there. Younger than 16 it's still pretty creepy but after 16 is like, well it can be a little uncomfortable but they're fictional and it's ultimately ok.

Basically I want to see the cuties struggle with their awkward teen feelings and first kisses and such. If skipping ahead means skipping that then I object!
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No. 98802 ID: 395c02

WELP I CAN'T DECIDE HELP ME DECIDE

http://strawpoll.me/7263439
OFFICIAL? HOW OLD TO BE NEXT THREAD STRAWPOLL
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No. 98803 ID: 99a64d

>>98802
16 is legal most places, and I don't want to skip an important part of her development!
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No. 98804 ID: 91ee5f

>>98803
Agreed!
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No. 98805 ID: f6442a

>>98803
>>98804
How about you just keep it in your pants until we're out of the character building phase?
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No. 98806 ID: 02422f

>>98802
The simple thing is to just say she's an adult when she's an adult, and not even mention years, which dodges people's ideas about the exact number all together. (Nevermind that a year could be a different unit of time on a different planet and that we're dealing with non-human species).

>>98805
Also that.
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No. 98807 ID: 1009ca

I voted 18 because I want to get to the porn and not worry about the NSA adding me to sex offender list
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No. 98808 ID: 5ad4a7

I think cuteness is important, naughty bits or not.
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No. 98810 ID: 395c02
File 145966020559.png - (484.04KB , 719x390 , Capture31.png )
98810

.....
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No. 98811 ID: 91ee5f

>>98810
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Wow, that's unexpected! XD
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No. 98812 ID: 395c02
File 145966217549.png - (320.57KB , 800x600 , darker path.png )
98812

Really dodged a bullet there.

COMP+!
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No. 98813 ID: 91ee5f

>>98812
No! Not a rebellious teenager stage! Anything but that! An awkward teenager stage I can handle, but this is too rebellious! Please Slinkoboy, have mercy! D8
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No. 98814 ID: f562b1

>>98813
Pretty sure we can still guide her. Tell her how to be rebellious. Like, my rebellious teenage years? I just yelled more. Still do, actually. I guess I never ended my rebellion.
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No. 98816 ID: a5478c

I would very much like to finish this journey (growing up) before the story reaches its destination (smut)
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No. 98817 ID: 99a64d

>>98816
Yeah, I don't really care about smut. So far this has been a really cute coming of age story and I'd rather not skip over any of it if at all possible.
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No. 98818 ID: a5478c

As for underage shenanigans, it's ultimately up to Slinko and what he's comfortable with. Sex among 16 year olds is highly likely, especially in a multi-species society, but that doesn't mean it has to be shown.
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No. 98819 ID: a5478c

But in case you want to appease both sides, I'm pretty sure Rynh and Jehral are 15/16 and no one's made a peep about that.
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No. 98820 ID: a5478c

>>68455
Found it!
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No. 98821 ID: 5ad4a7

>>98819
Kobolds are a fantasy race and do not hold to the same age ranges humans have.
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No. 98822 ID: a5478c

>>98821
Do you see any humans here?
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No. 98823 ID: a5478c

>>98821
>>98822
In any case, I don't know where I'm going with this and I definitely don't have the final say in these affairs.
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No. 98824 ID: 5ad4a7

>>98822
I see a bunch of characters of non-established races who are a heck of a lot closer to humans than kobolds are.
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No. 98827 ID: a5478c

>>98824
Gonna call YMMV here and let Slinko have the final say. It's his quest, it's his boundaries.
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No. 98828 ID: a5478c

In case I muddled my perceived opinion, journey > destination. We've gone this long without the promised lewds, we can go a bit further. What's important is seeing Ceridwen's journey towards adulthood all the way through, not stopping at the 3/4 mark and skipping ahead.
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No. 98829 ID: 395c02

You know, originally when I hit the Patreon Goal of doing an "Adult Quest", I was strongly considering doing something shallow and mindless. A bunch of sex with some barely existing half-assed plot connecting the sex.

And indeed, many times through this I kept going "you're going too slow. They don't want kid adventures, they want sexy times"

But seeing a large number of you legitimately care about the character we've made, willing to put off the "adult" part of this quest just to continue shaping who she is and what she becomes... it means something to me on a level I can't explain.

I think I chose correctly in giving this quest some depth and care.

Thread 2 will begin on Friday.
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No. 98831 ID: 4854ef

Your characterizations tend to be the sort of thing people come to your quests for no?
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No. 98841 ID: 47160d

>>98829
You chose perfectly, personally I wouldn't of cared at all if it was something mindless. But now this is quickly becoming one of my favorite quests and already is one i look for everytime I get on the site
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No. 98855 ID: 59a537

>>98831
Yep.
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No. 98882 ID: 4aa883

>>98841
Agreed. Mindless is fine for the sake of mindless, but the more emotional investment, the better. The more we know about who they are, how they got there and where they'll go, the more we care. And the more we care, the better the eventual porn is, no matter how long it takes to get there. Porn or no porn, I love this quest and it's been an amazing ride so far, SO looking forward to how it'll continue on Friday.
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No. 98918 ID: 395c02
File 146000020279.png - (174.27KB , 1321x1321 , combination.png )
98918

Part of the Tezakia expanded universe ?

The top image was drawn by trout, and I drew a little reply :3c
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No. 98986 ID: 5ad4a7

Slinko, the OP image, it's kindof... pushing the definition of SFW. Which OP images are supposed to be.
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No. 98987 ID: aca129

I like how the end of the first thread devolved into incest discussions (kind of) its like phone with Toriel

Also I love the little face on the C in Romance on thread two title card
I raughed.
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No. 98988 ID: 395c02

>>98986
Is it? She's actually a barbie doll in that version of the image, and that kinda stuff usually seems fine... does the C make it too lewd?

I could go with the other plan I had, which was drawing a new image for thread one (which is all child Ceri) and use the current thread 1 image for thread 2.

Thoughts?
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No. 98989 ID: 99a64d

>>98988
A more appropriate image for thread one would be nice, but I also see nothing wrong with the current thread two image.
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No. 99001 ID: 395c02
File 146023443513.png - (164.57KB , 800x600 , title2.png )
99001

one down
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No. 99002 ID: 02422f

>>99001
Unless you object, I'm going to use the original titlecard for the wiki article. Maybe it doesn't fit as well what actually happened in thread 1, but it should be fine for the quest overall. And hey, why waste it.
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No. 99003 ID: 395c02

>>99002
That's fine! I think it's still a pretty decent representation of the quest as a whole, if not the first chapter of it <:3
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No. 99005 ID: 395c02
File 146024059499.png - (176.44KB , 800x600 , title.png )
99005

And here's the old thread 2 image for posterity.

I'll miss you, >:3 joke
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No. 99009 ID: f0e552

hahaha
i'm guessing you had to change thread 2's titlecard because it was too lewd?
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No. 99064 ID: 395c02
File 146043637237.png - (4.13KB , 360x219 , DR votes.png )
99064

>>99009
I chose to replace lewd with cool, because at the time "EXCITED FOR DRAGON" was winning and the previous might be too lewd???

Anyway, for those unsure how voting works in Dragon Romance, here's some info.

Each choice begins with 1 vote, so they don't feel lonely (and to help with allignment).

Each person gets 2 votes, unless it specifies (VOTE 1). If someone votes for a single thing, I count it twice (double-voting).

Sometimes the winning vote is what happens, and sometimes the post is written around the ratio of votes each action has vs each other.

Suggestions for what to say are typically used as in any previous Slinko-quest, where I'll typically go with one the most people seem to >this at, but sometimes I'll go with what feels best for the story.

side note I know some people don't like >this, but I'm fine with it-- it helps me see what people support, and a post with lots of >this can become a SECRET EXTRA OPTION in dragon romance if it's not a normal choice.


I'm on the fence about allowing voting against something (removing votes rather than adding them), you can try to sway my opinion here if you want.

Oh, and finally... Dragon Romance is a patreon reward. Even so, it's considered a Major Quest, meaning it has a major plot that will likely spawn many threads, but I will be trying to guide it to an eventual ending. What happens after that is a bridge I'll cross when we get there.
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No. 99072 ID: 99a64d

>>99064
What happens when someone votes for multiple things on a vote 1? What happens when someone votes for more than two things in a regular vote?
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No. 99073 ID: 2a7417

>>99072
Every time you ignore the instructions when voting, a ketza loses their feathers.
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No. 99088 ID: 4a5baa

>>99064
> I'm on the fence about allowing voting against something (removing votes rather than adding them), you can try to sway my opinion here if you want.

Just voting against something, without giving a good reason or a good alternative, shouldn't count extra, though a significant sentiment against something should probably matter. Matters a lot more if it's something more irrevocable that you can't twist into giving everyone what they want; matters a lot less if you keep managing to give everyone what they want like you have thus far. (For instance, the half-joke about gym equipment, which doesn't have to progress past a joke and a contribution to Ceridwn's internal confusion unless people want it to later. Or learning about dragons, which a few of us wanted, and you even through in a MIND bonus based on that.)

Along the same lines as your previous point that the answer doesn't always depend directly on the votes, and that a good argument with a bit of support doesn't need to win a vote to work out as part of the story. You've definitely shown that already.
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No. 99089 ID: 4854ef

Man this quest was entirely worth it just for that adorable picture of her in dragon form, giving cute rawrs and rolling around like a dog.

And There's still more to go too! So much awesome.
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No. 99104 ID: 395c02
File 146052904686.png - (531.30KB , 1200x566 , smoothza.png )
99104

>Every time you ignore the instructions when voting, a ketza loses their feathers.
Poor Chei...

>>99089
T-thanks~

>>99072
If they provide a good reason for why they're choosing more, or explain how one can lead to another, I'll tick the extra things. But if I don't think it's a good narrative reason (example: they just pick 2/3 without a reason), the vote is skipped over. I wouldn't try it unless you're really sure about what you're doing!

Of course, people with good narrative reasons for things can affect the quest in subtle and sometimes less subtle ways, like in all Slinko-quests. After all, my main goal is to tell a good story. To this end, sometimes I'll use suggestions outside the voting system, and sometimes I'll take the "spirit" of suggestions and use them to form something a bit different from the literal "intent" of them.

Basically at the end of the day, I'm not "running" a "game", we're forming a story together and telling it. I'm not a GM, I'm simply a guide. Who draws cute things.


SIDE NOTE: Ceridwen's getting complicated enough that it's growing more difficult for me to say "obviously if you choose to do this, she'll act X way and gain Y stat", so pretty soon stat-ups are going to start being a result of events rather than me trying to see into the future. Stat training opportunities will still happen, but it's getting harder to put "STAT+" on every single choice.

Besides, you don't always need me to tell you that being selfless will increase your COMP, right?


(wow i typed a lot... do... do i legitimately care about this quest???)
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No. 99105 ID: f427de

>>99104
Welcome to Tgchan, we make porn quests plot quests and vice versa
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No. 99108 ID: 3e182c

>>99072
>>99073
o..o I don't think I've ever followed instructions when voting.

Its kinda a gamble. Sometimes I'm ignored. Sometimes cool shit happens.
Sometimes stuff happens and I'm not certain if I was part of the cool shit or not but am satisfied anyway.

In anycase, Slinko here does this so well that I never feel the need to do what he tells us to do.

That's a good thing, Right?
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No. 99110 ID: 395c02
File 146056203546.png - (561.72KB , 700x600 , I fear not your kind.png )
99110

>>99105
ain't that the truth.

>>99108
I hope so??


Some of you seem kinda new! And while the focus lately is largely on Dragon Romance, if you are in fact reading Slissa Quest and enjoying that one, I just want to mention that there is a prequel of sorts that might help give some bits of context for some things if you haven't read it. It's also a quest I'm pretty proud of.

It's here: http://tgchan.org/kusaba/questarch/res/505569.html
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No. 99115 ID: 99a64d

>>99104
>If they provide a good reason for why they're choosing more, or explain how one can lead to another, I'll tick the extra things.
Oh, then we should be fine, I think people kinda do that naturally


>(wow i typed a lot... do... do i legitimately care about this quest???)
I sure hope so, because I know I do! If anything it'll at least be remembered as an interesting experiment in tgchan child-rearing.

>>99110
I will be reading this with much enthusiasm.
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No. 99129 ID: f0e552

So, Slinko, why do you like putting little tendrils on everything?
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No. 99130 ID: 59a537

>>99129
Little tendrils are the most magical of appendages.
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No. 99131 ID: f0e552

Also i just read 'the creator' and i'm glad I did, it certainly gives context and now i'm really excited for more updates of the quests.
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No. 99139 ID: 395c02

>>99129
They're easy and fun to draw! In general I feel the most bogged down when doing lineart stuff, so the Creator's lack of any made it a pretty enjoyable character to draw. (I mean it's literally my fluff/hair method expanded and you know i love fluff)

It's also why slissa quest doesn't often have line-art backgrounds. I hate drawing backgrounds in general but doing it in line-art is its own special level of slinko-hell.

>>99131
I'm really glad you enjoyed it!!

Creator was a test-bed for Slissa in a way Tezakia was supposed to be but ended up not being :x

At that point, aside from my original quest, everything I did was goofy and comedic. Creator was me trying to see how it'd go if I tried to tell a serious, thoughtful story.

Now, slissa is obviously sillier than Creator, but there's some pretty heavy stuff in its future that I now feel much more confident tackling.
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No. 99141 ID: 395c02
File 146067783133.png - (150.26KB , 800x600 , Capture38.png )
99141

Time to tally votes!
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No. 99142 ID: 395c02

haha sorry for spam but one more thing:

>DRAGON HIM

in some cases I will in fact make an assumption. In this case +1 vote for MEET and +1 vote for DRAGON FORM!
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No. 99144 ID: 6e2dec

>>99142
yes that was the plan
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No. 99147 ID: 2ee598

>>99141
SLINKO, ARE YOU OK!? YOU LOST YOUR BEAK!
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No. 99156 ID: 91ee5f

>>99141
Hey, wait a minute! That was a fake beak! You're not actually a bird! You're a phony! Hey everybody! Slinko is a phony! A big fat phony!
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No. 99157 ID: 395c02

wow that update sure took whatever the time difference between this post and my previous post to write and draw

it was very hard to write this and i'm sorry if it sucks ;-;

>>99147
N-no! It-- uh--

>>99156
THE BEAK IS REAL

I AM A BIRD

I AM A BIRD
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No. 99159 ID: f0e552

>>99157
what even is that on your head? a sombrero? turban? egg? combination of the three?
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No. 99160 ID: c66656

>>99159
Afro
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No. 99161 ID: 595d54

>>99160
eggfro
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No. 99164 ID: 395c02
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99164

>>99157
Look you just gotta try a little harder OK?
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No. 99178 ID: 395c02
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99178

>>99159
I think it might be a basketball...?

i should cut my hair

>>99164
Look if i literally am a bird or ketza then i have a fursona and we can't have that!!!!
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No. 99179 ID: ce9fab

>>99178
Oh no a furry on TGchan what a scandal.
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No. 99180 ID: 395c02

>>99178
I mean, if you want people to keep thinking you're literally Chei...
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No. 99184 ID: 5ad4a7

>>99178
Is having a fursona worse than having a persona who wears the bird equivalent of cat ears?
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No. 99200 ID: f562b1

>>99178
Hey, Trout has a fursona. Two of them, even. He's still a human and identifies as such though. Sometimes it's less about believing you are something, and more that it's easier or more fun to draw yourself as that something.
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No. 99207 ID: 395c02

>>99179
I KNOW, RIGHT!?!?!?!?

>>99180
I-I'm not literally chei! (oh no that's something chei would say)

>>99184
........................goddammit

>>99200
..........

oh no is this how the reign of slinkoactualbird happens
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No. 99212 ID: 5ad4a7

>>99207
what if the persona is a human wearing a birdsuit
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No. 99235 ID: 395c02

>>99207
Slinkobird best birb
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No. 99314 ID: 395c02
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99314

I spent 4 days doing nothing but drawing. Aside from switching to dragon romance for a bit yesterday, my week has been filled with sad slissas and my hand is about to fall off.

It took 4 hours to get a passable (not great) video on youtube, and this might be the last thing I make using my old flash 8 program.

Next time you want to laugh at MSPA or whatever for not having much animation, I want you to remember: animaton is fucking hard.

4 days for what amounts to about 20 images. There's a reason I'm going to stop shading the quest once they leave the caves!

If you want to see a nice crisp flash version, I'll include it here. Say hello and maybe goodbye to the Tezakia loader!
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No. 99319 ID: f6442a

>>99314
>4 days
>20 images
>current date
hurr
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No. 99323 ID: 395c02
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99323

>>99319
Haha, what a coincidence!

man, like... what if I did make a bird fursona, man?

Or, like... a ketza? I should like, make a strawpoll and then end up doing what I want regardless of what wins, man.
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No. 99324 ID: 395c02
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99324

Hehehe, wait, I'm right handed.


i promise i'm not actually high
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No. 99325 ID: 5ad4a7

Slinko, you gotta tape your hand on again.
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No. 99326 ID: 91ee5f

>>99323
>>99324
IT HAPPENED AGAIN!!!!! THERE'S NO BEAK!!!!! YOU'RE NOT A BIRB!!!!! IMPOSTER!!!!! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH THE REAL SLINKO?!?!
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No. 99330 ID: 5042bf
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99330

>>99326

Squawk Squawk Squawk
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No. 99448 ID: 395c02
File 146168537896.png - (43.54KB , 469x338 , you slissad.png )
99448

FRIENDS VISTING

NEXT DRAGON ROMANCE IN A COUPLE DAYS OK

and after that, a slissa update???
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No. 99673 ID: 395c02
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99673

So it took over two hours to tally the votes, and I'm not sure I even counted right. TGCHAN also suffered a DDOS and spam attack, making links to posts no show the post in question when hovered over.

As such, I'm simplifying the vote system so i don't just die when we approach 100 suggestions oh my god what's even going on

Also, I know some of you want to do 500 things at once, but the point of dragon romance is I don't kill myself doing giant 10 image updates that handle a lot at once

So if a thing fails to happen, it might mean I intend to go into it later. Just try to keep it in mind for next time.
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No. 99674 ID: 91ee5f

>>99673
>Approach 100 suggestions oh my god what's even going on?

You made a popular quest that everyone enjoys, that's what's going on!
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No. 99678 ID: f6442a

>>99673
>filename
Capture 39? Is this a picture of a captured leprechaun?
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No. 99687 ID: 3e182c

>>99673
Is it a Slinkocon?'
A Leprislink?
Lepinkocon?
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No. 99688 ID: 395c02

>>99678
>>99687
yes
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No. 99725 ID: 1f601d

uh oh, a lust tilde bar in the date!

Are we 18 yet?
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No. 99726 ID: 5ad4a7

I suspect the tilde bar won't be able to get very high in this date.
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No. 99727 ID: e89427

I google searched these here glaucomas, Slinko.

Are the wings part of Skif's biology or not?
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No. 99739 ID: 395c02

>>99726
Consider this the tutorial level.

>>99727
The wings seem to be part of their biology. He can't actually take them off unless some godlike being allows it by forgetting to draw them.

Anyway.

My computer exploded a little, DR paused for a day or two. Sorry!
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No. 99745 ID: 4e9864

>>99673
Would you find it helpful if someone tallied and summarized the responses after a certain amount of time (either in the main thread or in this discussion thread)?
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No. 99748 ID: 395c02

>>99745
That'd be super helpful ! Especially when there's a whole whole lot going on
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No. 99749 ID: 4e9864

>>99748
OK, I'll try to do that when I can. (I'm the same person who did that in the past thread.)

What's the approximate amount of time you want to wait after a post before getting a summary?
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No. 99750 ID: 395c02

>>99749
in a perfect world I update every two days ( ;-; ) but I tend to do so towards the afternoon...

so earlier on that second day would be a prime time to to so

Of course, even if the votes were tallied at the halfway point, that's 50% less brain I have to break counting numbers and not losing my spot oh god don't lose your place oh i guess i'll start over
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No. 99757 ID: 395c02

>>99749
Thanks~

Okay. The computer is almost done being restored. This train gets moving again tomorrow!
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No. 99762 ID: f0e552

>>99757
so like how did you fuck up your computer slinkonerd?
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No. 99776 ID: 91ee5f

>>99762
Basically, Venji got mad that her quest is now a "Dead Quest" and she broke Slinko's computer in a fit a rage.

And that's the story of how Venji got her Re-Venji-ance! (I'm not sorry! XD)
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No. 99890 ID: 395c02
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99890

Trout and Lawyerdog said to post links to my patreon everywhere because i made it hard to find oops

here you go https://www.patreon.com/Slinketza?ty=h

look i have a patreon how neato
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No. 99891 ID: 3e182c

>>99890
Hey! It's Speeple!
Giving us the Double Speeps?
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No. 99892 ID: 4854ef

>>99890
But it's right there in the beginning of the thread already?

Also I'd suggest doing like Lagotrope does and add it to your quest beginnings as well. You honestly deserve to advertise a bit man.
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No. 99994 ID: 395c02

>COMP+, ROMANCE++, APPEAL++

don't vote like this, it won't be counted. I have a hard time not losing my place, and I'm not going to scroll back up to figure out what you intended. Always quote or paraphrase the options in bold
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No. 99996 ID: 395c02
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99996

WHILE I'M HERE. Some of you seem to want to do things that would slow the story down a whole lot in order to have me explain things, which always seemed like a bad idea (people often complain about "plot dumps")

But there's no way to explain the ritual stuff AND dragon stuff AND life-magic stuff in a way that gives you something to vote on every update but also isn't a giant plot dump.

Truly it is a challenge even the greatest writers struggle to solve.

So, have a bonus vote.

HOW MUCH PLOT SHOULD I DUMP IN THE NEXT UPDATE http://www.strawpoll.me/10328287
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No. 99997 ID: a075ba

>would you like some plot with your porn
>yes please!
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No. 100003 ID: e89427

>>99997
We don't want a premature ejaculation.

Or any at all.

Slinko pls.
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No. 100009 ID: a22f87

>>99994
do you mean don't vote with green text or don't throw random ++ into votes? Cause I can stop with the green text.
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No. 100010 ID: a22f87

>>99996
well if you want to give details about the world without dropping plot dumps in quest you could always just link something in your quest and write out the plot here or somewhere else so as to keep the quest moving smoothly.

I'm just giving my 2 cents on the mater, you can just ignore me if you don't want to do something like that.
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No. 100011 ID: a075ba

>>100009
I think he means don't vote with just +++ options divorced from the actual actions.
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No. 100013 ID: 395c02
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100013

>>100003
What'd I do?????

>>100009
Voting for stats is what I mean. I write down the votes in short form based on action, and I don't often remember which stat went to which action.

>>100010
The weird thing is, DR's world is the least complex of the four 'slinkoworlds' (Tezakia, Slissa, whatever it is Venji inhabits are the others). Granted, most of Tezakia's complexity came in the years after the quest ran.

It's just much harder to sprinkle out the world plot because we're speeding past childhood at a rapid pace and most of my words need to go to keeping things moving along (thread 2 isn't even NSFW, is it?)

I don't really like the idea of posting a bunch of bonus content off to the side as semi-required reading-- a quest should contain all the information you need to make a decision.

But the rapid paced childhood is almost over so maybe it'll be fine if I slow down and explain wtf is going on in a little more detail.
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No. 100015 ID: 4e9864

>>99996
I voted in the strawpoll, but I wanted to elaborate further.

In general I think it makes sense to ration out some of the details as the plot develops. But we've definitely steered Ceridwyn into a thoughtful, conscientious dragon; the kind that values and hoards knowledge (among other things). And you've built a fascinating world for her, with interesting depth, mysteries, fun and nuanced characters, and opportunities for meaningful, potentially life-altering choices. Finally, we're about to go through what may be one of the last major time-skips in the quest, and it looks like we're going to spend most of it gathering information.

It looks like the players in this quest are the type that like to explore all the dialogue trees, background, and other material. Personally, I love researching this kind of information in a quest (or in a tabletop RPG), both because I love seeing the bigger picture of the world, and because it makes for richer possibilities in the future; we may well reference it later to consider our options and come up with new ones.

Given all that, I think it makes sense to spend some time answering questions and providing the results of our research at this point. You don't necessarily need to write all of it in advance (especially if you're still developing much of it) or dump it all into a few posts. Instead, if it's easier for you, you might turn it into a Q&A format. We've asked some fairly specific questions in the thread; you could quote and answer them, and respond to follow-up questions that the answers lead to. If there's something significant and relevant that we didn't think to ask, you could add that if it makes sense for us to have encountered it naturally (for instance, if any decent research into the topic would have turned it up), but otherwise if we didn't think to ask a question then the answer doesn't need to exist yet.

For that matter, if it helps, the Q&A doesn't necessarily need to have an image with every post; it seems fine to have a few "montage" images for "conversations with Ceridwyn and Skif", or "Ceridwyn and Skif at the library". That would make it easier to do some back-and-forth.

Most of the good quests (and tabletop RPGs) I've participated in occasionally get to a point where the players can seek a large amount of information at once; that tends to happen whenever there's an opportunity to talk to someone who knows significant information that we don't, or to read or research information in a directed fashion about a topic we don't know much about. It seems fairly normal that a conversation-heavy segment may turn into Q&A. That won't turn the whole quest into a plot dump, or even this section; you've done some fascinating worldbuilding here, and we'd like to go poking around in it.

Thanks again for a fun quest!
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No. 100017 ID: 4e9864

>>100013
When I'm putting together the tallies, I tend to grab the whole choice line from your original post, including any hints at stat changes, for exactly that reason.

That said, I think there's a more important reason to avoid voting using stats rather than choice descriptions: we're roleplaying here, not rollplaying.

You suggested a while back that you'd stop mentioning exact stat changes for each option; you might want to go ahead and do that, and we can just see how our choices play out after the fact. That would also give you more flexibility, because we tend to supply write-ins for extra flavor, dialogue, or variations on the choices, as well as entirely new ideas; you might decide that our particular approach to a situation or twist on a choice you offered warrants a different stat change.
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No. 100021 ID: 3e182c

Huh. And here I thought this was the same world as Slissa Quest, only displaced in location and time.
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No. 100023 ID: 395c02
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100023

>And you've built a fascinating world for her, with interesting depth, mysteries, fun and nuanced characters, and opportunities for meaningful, potentially life-altering choices
(see image)

>Instead, if it's easier for you, you might turn it into a Q&A format
We have a thread on /dis/ specifically for this, but... I dunno. Yeah, I guess I could devote a couple updates to just information and reactions to information, without the constant pressure of moving a plot along. Indeed this might be less of a time skip and more of an actual 'montage' of information!

>>100017
Those tallies got rather important this time around! My own counting lead to a tie (I'm not good at counting!), and when faced with doing a complete recount vs just using the tally and counting the posts after it...


>>100021
The quest is similar to Venji, in that it's sort of a hodgepodge of random elements from other worlds. The main difference is Venji had elements from other quests, but DR is going to be mostly slinkostuff(.../typostuff??)

Of course, there's two reward tiers on my patreon that let people insert their own characters, so the quest could become quite a melting pot indeed.

Slissa and Tezakia have very specific ways that magic works, but DR is playing more loosey-goosey with it.
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No. 100026 ID: a22f87

>>100023
what the hell is that pick from?
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No. 100027 ID: 4854ef

>>100026
El Goonish Shive.
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No. 100037 ID: 93244f
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100037

I'm too late to make this joke but

this is like my 20th attempt to upload this why won't it work
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No. 100043 ID: 398fe1

Is there a reason pangolin form was chosen for Ceri's experimentation? Like is there something special about their reproductive systems?
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No. 100047 ID: 395c02

>>100043
(i wanted to draw a pangolin)
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No. 100048 ID: 398fe1

>>100047
A good excuse.
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No. 100075 ID: 395c02
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100075

>Focus today on talking with your parents, and finding 'E'.

...I DIDN'T THINK THIS THROUGH
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No. 100079 ID: f0e552

>>100075
lmao slinko, wasting no time getting to the nsfw part of this entire quest. I didn't expect it considering the rest of the quest managed to deftly avoid it, and then BOOM
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No. 100082 ID: 91ee5f

>>100075
Damnit, you beat me to a joke about Amiel's hatred of the letter E! DX
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No. 100100 ID: 398fe1

I... wonder how the parental talk would go.

"Mom, dad, I'm gonna be a real dragon AND YOU CAN'T STOP ME!!!!"
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No. 100102 ID: 395c02

>>100079
look i'm not that big a troll that i'd make a porn quest wherein the protagonist is never ever seen naked

.... and that's not because i hadn't thought of it until just now!!
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No. 100137 ID: 18b95e

Oh my god it all makes perfect sense now, we are Amiel cross dimensional time warphole dancestor clone!
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No. 100169 ID: 398fe1

Slinko, are we ever going to stop gaining stats? I thought it was going to stop after Ceri grew up.

Or is this because she still has more growing to do?
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No. 100174 ID: f0e552

I actually thought that stats grew so fast because they were gonna go extremely slowly after adulthood. That would make sense as to not make Ceri OP. But idk what slinko would do.
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No. 100185 ID: 8ca51b

Slinko... What the fuck is with the breasts? Like do dragons lay eggs and then nurse their young? Or was the snake such a pervert as to figure out a spell to turn her into the one kind of lizard with breasts?
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No. 100187 ID: 2a7417

>>100185
If you go back one thread, you'll find the story deals with this very topic.
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No. 100195 ID: 395c02
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100195

>>100169
Did you stop learning and growing the second you turned 18?

For most people, the answer is no. Stats will go up till the cows come home, but their growth is much slower now and much fewer decisions will have stat changes attached. (The main problem right now is if I attach statups to a single choice, people will likely pick that choice over anything else... or maybe I'm overly worried?)

Besides, do you really want to keep her stats as-is with that pitiful level of D? And that pretty bad level of APPEAL?

IS THIS THE WORLD YOU DESIRE

>>100185
See thread one

Short answer: It's very probable the snake goofed
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No. 100197 ID: 9b0157

>>100195
If you care about audience opinion: I think that stat ups that represent our physicality should grow extremely slowly, however I feel that magic is learnt (albeit slowly) with study and practice, while the D stat and Appeal stat do not represent our physical being, but instead our mannerisms and mental state. Therefore, they should change roughly more or less the same as the magic stats with practice and experience.

With the stat ups, I say that you declare in the thread that Ceri can't work with stat ups in mind anymore, and you should instead divvy up stats when you feel that it is proper, and dont particularly assign any actions with any stat ups. As (I think?) you said, story mainly comes first, so stats should totally piggyback off of that.

So yeah.
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No. 100198 ID: 9b0157

>>100197
Also by 'physicality' I mean Vigor, Mind and Speed, which are stats that people in real life can only change with dedicated training and determination. But you learn new things and become more skilled every day. (Appeal, D, Magic stats)
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No. 100199 ID: d3fdbc

>>100195

Well, in the case of Appeal specifically, one would expect it to only start really going up during her college years equivalent.
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No. 100205 ID: 395c02

This all makes sense to me. I guess I also have to wean myself off of statups all the time and make actual points where people can go "hey let's train at the gym and hit on the equipment", leaving plot decisions largely unstatted.

And yeah, I guess this WOULD be the age to be raising appeal, so maybe it's ok it's low for now :x

That D tho. That D's gotta happen. This quest is so lacking in D.



ragon.
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No. 100234 ID: 3e182c

>>100195
>or maybe I'm overly worried?
No you are perfectly worried CONTINUE BEING WORRIED

Also I think I've noticed something.

Self gets raised when were an asshole Selfish.
D seems to get raised when we act Self Important.

Are D and SELF related stat wise?

And will we have to subsume Ceri's Mind With Megalomaniacal Delusions of Grandeur to fully unlock the D?

...Because that sounds fun.
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No. 100258 ID: 395c02

>>100234
They are not directly related!

One can be self-important while still being selfless... oddly enough Tayza might be the best example of this. She pretty much DR. Cox's everyone into shape while still kind of believing in them.

on the other end is someone like Venji, who's all about her own importance and awesomeness without giving many cares about those around her.


It's kind of hard to see someone who turned out as selfless and nice as Ceridwen turning into an actual villainess... I feel like you guys kind of missed the bote boat on evil town population dragon.

Maybe she could turn into an anti-villain? Like an antihero except the other way around.
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No. 100259 ID: 4854ef

>>100258
Who knows, maybe some sudden events will happen and then suddenly "THE WORLD DESERVES IT'S DRAGONESS OVERLORD OF LOVE/LUST"
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No. 100262 ID: 395c02

>>100259
About that...
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No. 100290 ID: 3e182c

>>100258
> anti-villain?
That sounds awesome.

All this Plot breaking speak in thread reminds me of a question...

Ceri's Adoptive Father (Sheriim, was it?). Whats up with him.
Cabinets full of Guns and Weapons.
Understanding and capability to break the 4th wall.
Proclivity for kinky sex.

What was he in the past?
Wielder of the DM lightning?
Bounty Hunting Meta-mancer?
This universe's Deadpool?

And what manner of insidious creature is this Myra, Who is somehow able to constrain and control him?
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No. 100291 ID: 4e9864

>>100258
>Maybe she could turn into an anti-villain? Like an antihero except the other way around.

ALL SHALL LOVE ME AND DESPAIR!
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No. 100293 ID: 4e9864

>>100205
I'd agree with this. Dole out stat-ups whenever you feel like Ceri has trained/exercised one, but don't label options with them anymore.
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No. 100294 ID: 4e9864

At a few points in the story, there have been a few questions about the tech level of this world that have gone unanswered. Where is this world on the spectrum from medieval to modern? Or does the world run on Sufficiently Advanced Magic instead of technology?

Related to that, is there such a thing as a Sending spell?

In this case, I'm asking because the current choice has a mention of "Send Skif a message"; what form would that message take?
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No. 100315 ID: b6eeac

After talking with Slinko, I believe the setting for Dragon Quest is roughly a modern-ish MagiTech-based setting, with a slightly different basis of what is or isn't useful and what sorts of technologies and magics dominate society, politics, economics, military, etc.

It does seem to be a modern first world country, in that it has suburbs and a middle class that could only exist if certain criteria are met.... Though the exact tech/magic/magitech mix seems unclear.
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No. 100319 ID: 395c02

>>100294
It's kept vague because I'm not 100% sure where I want it yet. After thread two, I'll likely spend some time building up the world in preparation for when things spread out.
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No. 100463 ID: 395c02

I'm currently doing the Final Fantasy 5 Four Job Fiesta charity event, so updates will be delayed. I'll try to get one up soon!
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No. 100611 ID: 4e9864

>"Oh, hi Mr. and Mrs. Fonzarelli!"

>Skif's last name is strange, almost as if it was made up on the spot, but it's the name they gave you and you're going to assume it's real for now.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheFonzie

> What's a writer to do when a minor character that they created for a show suddenly becomes much more popular than the other members of the cast? Why, re-write them as a main character of course!

How much of the "dragon rider" stuff did you have before Skif became a major focus?
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No. 100616 ID: 395c02
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100616

>>100611
none, but not for silly reasons like fonzie tropes~

the name exists for the same reason "Magic Johnson" is the name of the magic tentacle beast in this thread's OP image (no, no, the one on the right).

Skif is not a character of my creating, he is a character added via my Patreon, and his owner suggested that last name

Suggest goofy names and I will use them. Such is my way, such is my calling.
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No. 100681 ID: 395c02

The astute of you might have noticed a dramatic drop in art quality in recent updates. The reason is that I haven't had a good night's sleep in weeks and it became quite torturous to do the quest, on top of the fiesta and such.

So Dragon Romance is paused for a bit while I try out some sleeping pills and recover from this mess of "OWE MY EYES AND BRAIN AND BRAIN EYES"

hopefully the pills mean I can get back in action in a couple days.
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No. 100682 ID: f0e552

>>100681
Go ahead and take a break if you want/need it. I think most questers prefer quality over quantity, on top of it simply not being good to rush yourself.
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No. 101039 ID: 4e9864

>>100681
Welcome back, Slinko!
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No. 101041 ID: 4e9864

Random quest question: about how fast does Ceridwen regenerate MP?

For instance, for the amount of MP burned in https://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/src/146715657754.png , about how long would that take to regenerate?

Asking because that could help determine how often we use magic. If we regenerate it reasonably quickly, then it makes sense for us to use it frequently even for minor amusements. If it takes the better part of a day to regenerate our MP, then we may want to use it more judiciously.

(Also, for this kind of question, would you prefer the /quest/ thread or this /questdis/ thread?)
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No. 101042 ID: a075ba

>Random quest question: about how fast does Ceridwen regenerate MP?
As fast as the plot requires.
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No. 101043 ID: 4e9864

>>101042
I'm sure that's the right general rule, yes. A rough order-of-magnitude concept would be helpful to guide decisions, though. Ceri would probably know from personal experience about how long she usually needs to recover from casting a spell.
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No. 101046 ID: 395c02

>Random quest question: about how fast does Ceridwen regenerate MP?
Every 2.15 minutes she regenerates 1.43--

>As fast as the plot requires.
W-what no! O-of course not!

once again slinko with the SAVE.


Basically it depends what she's doing. Sleeping 8 hours fills it to full, of course (of course!), naps also give increased regen, as does eating.

It is slowed by physical activity, like running around or things that may or may not involve tildes. It's sort of the Tezakia system where magic is a "muscle" that can "tire out" and needs to absorb energy from your body to recover. If she over-exerts herself to 0, her MP regen is greatly slowed until she sleeps.

If she's just standing there, not moving, eating, or sleeping, she can regen about 30% of her current max every day. This might be subject to change if I add numbers.

Speaking of which!


The stats and mechanics are a thing that are turning out to be way more important than they're meant to be (since when did Venji actually use all her points in bird???), which means I actually have to consider attaching numbers to them.

The problem with this, and the reason I hate doing it, is I'm Very Bad at math. And some of you guys are Insanely Good at math. If I make numbers and actual mechanics, you WILL find a way to break it in ways I couldn't even begin to fathom. So long as it's kept vague, I can at least make up a reason why X action doesn't actually work.

However, since Dragon Romance is a little less flexible than usual due to its Choice Vote system, maybe it will actually be fine...

Maybe you guys can voice an opinion on NUMBERS vs EASY PEASY VAGUENESS? If I do decide to start attaching real numbers to things, it'll likely wait for thread 3, when the quest opens up a bit more.
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No. 101047 ID: 4e9864

>>101046
I'd absolutely agree that this shouldn't have any hard numbers. Much like in a tabletop RPG, finding and exploiting a loophole isn't generally fun for everyone. And there's little else to be gained from precise figures here. The fuzziness also leaves more room for you to allow unusual and creative things as you see fit. ("That sounds fun, sure, let's go with that.")

The same thing goes for the rest of the stats. I think the current level of importance attached to them is OK (now that you no longer mention possible stat changes with every choice). I don't think attempting to precisely quantify stats like Dragon or Mind any more than your current fun spirals makes sense. They just give you room to consider proposed courses of action and say "sure, that's reasonable" or "Ceri is unlikely to be able to pull that off".

For instance, with how we've raised Ceridwen to have a high Mind and low Vigor and Speed, it's reasonable to think she could come up with creative ways to use portals, win at a game of strategy or reasoning, carefully have a conversation without giving away a secret, or come up with a clever scheme to gain power and influence. It's not so reasonable to think she could outrun an athletic pursuer on flat ground, free-climb up a mountain, travel cross-country at a fast pace for 16-hour days, or take on a group of fighters head-on without pulling any tricks; if we tried to suggest things like those, you'd either tell us that Ceridwen isn't capable of it, or let us try and most likely fail. If we're in a situation like those, we'd have to come up with some other solution instead.

A Ceridwen from an alternate universe could have been a skilled warrior who thinks three-on-one head-on fights are a fun challenge but not so fair for the three, but that Ceridwen wouldn't have been able to get away with some of the things we've done.

So please do keep stats at about the current degree of vagueness; more precision would just make things more complicated, both for us and for you. (You might even consider renaming "MP" and "HP" to just "Magic" and "Health", to avoid suggesting they have "points".)

The only reason I'm asking about her rate of magic regeneration is to get a rough idea of how to evaluate and discuss ideas like "let's randomly use some magic for something amusing", and comments like "do we want to use MP on a game?".

The premise you suggested where magic regenerates non-linearly, with smaller amounts regenerating quickly and larger amounts straining us and taking longer to regenerate, makes perfect sense; I like the idea of magic working more like a muscle, and it's an approach that isn't used nearly as often. (That also might allow for the idea of adrenaline in an emergency situation, and would suggest that working out with our magic to its limit would be the right way to train ourselves to have a higher capacity.)

And that's a system that would be hard to put precise numbers to, but that's reasonably easy to hand-wave; I'd leave out even the numbers you mentioned in your post, because that might vary depending on how Ceri has used her magic, and how much she's strained herself. Lifting a 2-kilo weight 100 times doesn't require anywhere near as much strain as lifting a 200-kilo weight once. And a single burst is quite different than long-duration endurance. (More "precise" magic systems have to add things like "cantrips" to approximate things like this.)

The analogy to a muscle also gives some good rough ideas about how to think about using magic for random things. Does the following roughly correspond to the model you have in mind?

If we're doing something that seems like it ought to be trivial (for instance, polymorphing a funny face for a moment, or making a brief small portal that doesn't move anything but sound and light), we can probably recover that almost immediately, as long as we don't want to do it for a long time without stopping; so, quick gags when we're not already "tired" don't need us to worry about magic usage. Doing something major (like a portal across town for two people) or high-endurance (like maintaining a major polymorph for a while, especially one with a physical, non-cosmetic component) isn't something we should plan on doing many times per day, just like we wouldn't expect to maintain a fast running pace for a long time. (More so if we're doing something physically active at the same time; physical activity with a polymorph on might be like running with ankle weights, though it's possible the polymorph would also be making the physical activity easier for us in ways that compensate.) And if we do something that takes all the magical strength we've got, we're not only going to need to cool it for the rest of the day, we'll probably go to bed exhausted and want some extra sleep (an early night or a late morning).

Does that sound about right to you?
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No. 101049 ID: 4e9864

>>101046
> However, since Dragon Romance is a little less flexible than usual due to its Choice Vote system,

Was that by design, or did it end up a little less flexible than you'd prefer?
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No. 101051 ID: 3e182c

>>101046
What if you added invisible numbers?
Like, numbers you had, but that we never saw.
That way you could have some concrete way of maintaining consistency and difficulty, but we'd be forced to continue choosing our actions
Organicly.
In the real world our limitations are governed by the hard numbers of physics, but we don't know the numbers, only a general feel of things. I think a system like this would feel very natural.
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No. 101099 ID: 395c02

Hey so since I can't find my own dis thread, it's probably years out of date anyway, and Slinko is doing the art for it, I thought I'd just mention it here that Hugs Quest Gaiden is back!

http://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/679723.html
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No. 101111 ID: 395c02
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101111

>>101047
Seems about right.

I wish I had more to add, but sometimes I don't!

>>101049
By... circumstance?

The Choice Vote system has been used in other quests before, but they always seemed too inflexible to me. But I'm not a person who won't try something at least once to see how it is. usually. sometimes.

And it turned out to be a rather good way to handle how absurdly popular Dragon Romance became for a minute or two there. I couldn't even imagine going through so many suggestions on a more vague "what do we do now?" system!

>>101051
Even without hard numbers, I do something similar to this by figuring roughly how many pixels change when something happens with the stats.

The stats other than D are designed how they are (visually) to compensate for how bad I tend to be at figuring out what a 'max value" should be. The bars can 'overflow' kingdom hearts style, which will usually come up for HP/MP or if transformed, but if a base stat somehow gushes outside the graphic, there's a system in place for it.
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No. 101114 ID: 395c02

(also HP and MP takes up less space than "health" or "magical capabilities" hence their usage)
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No. 101115 ID: 4e9864

>>101114
Does that mean we're getting more stats off to the right of HP/MP in the extra room?
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No. 101117 ID: 4e9864

>>101111
> Seems about right.

Thanks! That helps a lot.

> The stats other than D are designed how they are (visually) to compensate for how bad I tend to be at figuring out what a 'max value" should be.

Good idea. Most of these stats shouldn't even have a max value, especially in a world where magic is possible.

> And it turned out to be a rather good way to handle how absurdly popular Dragon Romance became for a minute or two there. I couldn't even imagine going through so many suggestions on a more vague "what do we do now?" system!

Providing suggested choices while still allowing write-ins seems reasonably flexible; we've ended up doing things other than the choices offered often enough.
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No. 101167 ID: 395c02

>>101115
Partly, since I can't predict what'll end up happening.

Partly because...

At the risk of sounding lewd, the HP and MP stats are set up so they have a lot of room to grow.

~

HEY NO GET THAT TILDE OUT OF HERE

I also take the stat icons and throw them in updates, as you may have noticed. They're already kind of bigger than I'd like, really...


>>101117
Sometimes people have better ideas than I do <:3
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No. 101269 ID: db0da2
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101269

Manly Fighting Spirit stat when?
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No. 101271 ID: c441c1

>>101269
Oh no we can't become a dragon or we might sommon the anti-spiral with all that new power
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No. 101274 ID: 91ee5f

>>101271
But what if we need to pierce the heavens?
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No. 101275 ID: c441c1

>>101274
But we have no drill!!!
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No. 101276 ID: 91ee5f

>>101275
Fighting Spirit is so Manly that it can't be contained to only a drill. Anything can be used for piercing!
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No. 101280 ID: c441c1

>>101276
We can use the ~~~~~~ to pierce the heavens.
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No. 101291 ID: eb959a

OURS IS THE LEWDS THAT WILL CREATE THE HEAVENS!!
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No. 101295 ID: 4854ef

Unrelated to the Lewd Heavens, I'm glad Hugs Quest Gaiden is back!
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No. 101297 ID: 91ee5f

>>101291
This guy's got the right idea!

>>101295
Me too!
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No. 101298 ID: c441c1

>>101291
INB4 Skif dies in a blaze of glory saving us from dragon hunters, leaving us to become a supervillian/anti-hero that is trying to bring the dragons back from the underground.
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No. 101335 ID: db0da2

>>101298
I'd play that. Hell it might even happen, it would definitely fit with the whole "lewd quest with no porn" thing this quest has going.
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No. 101344 ID: 395c02

>>101298
Skif is a patreon character, and is like an NPC in oblivion/skyrim. he can't die, only be knocked unconscious.

>Manly Fighting Spirit stat when?
What do you think D is?
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No. 101349 ID: 91ee5f

>>101344
You fool! You shouldn't have compared him with Skyrim NPCs! Now Skif's knees are going to constantly be targeted by people with bows and arrows! DX
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No. 101350 ID: 5ba96f

>>101349
No one thought that joke was funny five years ago and it still isn't funny.
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No. 101361 ID: 1ce6a6

>>101344
well at least he won't need a safeword with Ceridwen~~~~~~~
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No. 101364 ID: 91ee5f

>>101350
I'm not saying it to be funny. This is a Slinkoboy quest, random things happen in his quests all the time. I said it because it actually could happen.....maybe.

>>101361
I now feel bad for Skif and I also feel jealous of him.
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No. 101512 ID: 395c02
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101512

Not being funny never stopped me.
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No. 101514 ID: 398fe1

Jeez slinko, are you boosting effectiveness of actions based on the percentage of votes or something? I didn't expect the bar to get completely full just from the game.
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No. 101516 ID: 1ce6a6

so what are the odds of skif being confined to a wheelchair for a few days after his night with Ceridwen?
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No. 101517 ID: 395c02

>>101514
if DDR doesn't max out your romance bar you're playing DDR wrong.
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No. 101518 ID: 6c7a4d

>>101512
This is my entire writing process
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No. 101521 ID: 2e2d71

>>101516
Zero. He won't be in a wheelchair, he'll be riding around strapped to the back of the dragon.

No matter how inconvenient this gets for him depending on what she's doing.
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No. 101715 ID: c441c1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu196vZSe_I
I found Skif and Ceridwen future. Because gym equipment.
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No. 101834 ID: 395c02
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101834

Oh geez oh gosh

B-be gentle tgchan we're officially in uncharted territory.
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No. 101835 ID: 398fe1

>>101834
Don't act so innocent, I've seen your FA.
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No. 101846 ID: 8a13c1

>>101715
I love when things I like loop into each other.
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No. 101873 ID: e89427

At the rate Skif's wings keep forgetting to exist, they might as well get amputated in a dramatic battle.
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No. 101876 ID: 4854ef

Sudden dramatic reveal of the ability to come in and out of the body like Wolverine claws. SNIKT SNIKT SNIKT
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No. 101882 ID: e89427

>>101876
So that's how Skif's going to die, lungs punctured by 6 3-foot long bio-metal blades while a dragon rides his dick like a mechanical bull.
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No. 101883 ID: d16536

>>101882
Well, I mean, when it's such an oddly specific way to die, it's almost guaranteed.
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No. 101908 ID: 395c02

>Don't act so innocent, I've seen your FA.
T-THAT'S DIFFERENT FOR ONE THING ALMOST ALL THE ACTUAL SEX IS COMMISSIONS OR WHATEVER

F-FOR ANOTHER IT'S ONE THING TO DRAW A RANDOM ACT IT'S ANOTHER TO WRITE IT AND PONDER HOW BOTH CHARACTERS THINK AND UM FEEL

oh gosh

>Skif's wings
They know how much I hate drawing them and offer to make themselves invisible at random so I won't break down crying

Skif's wings are the ultimate bros.
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No. 101915 ID: db0da2

>>101908
Ah, so you're okay with random acts of promiscuity, but true love is too lewd for you. I understand, not everyone can handle tgchan's more extreme fetishes.
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No. 101918 ID: 3e182c

>>101908
You can art without feels?
Weird.
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No. 101921 ID: 395c02

>>101915
That's not...!

>>101918
You have to think about it much more when writing! Drawing is more pondering poses and maybe a vague feeling

writing makes you really dig in there and get every detail.
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No. 102054 ID: 395c02

feeling kind of ill, expect mild delays :c
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No. 102382 ID: 1ce6a6

oh hey slinko it turns out skif's wings actually do something other than annoy you. http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/2630516/
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No. 102386 ID: 91ee5f

>>102382
THEY CAN FLY?!?! O_O
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No. 102401 ID: 395c02

They can what????

I'll, uh. Think about if that transfers over or not. Maybe if Ceri has wings they could fly? Places?

Also yay mushy updates.

I'll be taking roughly a week off, to catch up on other obligations and to lessen the feeling of burnout. Typo, who writes Hugs Quest Gaiden, is also going on a trip, so both quests will be paused until then.

I hope you've enjoyed things so far!
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No. 102406 ID: 91ee5f

>>102401
We have enjoyed it. And also congratulations on your first time drawing sex on tgchan in one of your quests!

.....not sure if that's something you feel proud about or even want to be proud about.
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No. 102418 ID: 4d196f

>>102386
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwbqr2UjeSg
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No. 102445 ID: 398fe1

>flight achieved via high frequency vibration
I don't think that's physically possible.
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No. 102449 ID: 4854ef

>>102445
If the Flash can physically vibrate himself through walls, these can fly via it.
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No. 102451 ID: 91ee5f

>>102445
That's why Skif is what you'd call a fictional species. Real world logic doesn't need to apply.

Besides, that was written by the creator of Skif's species. So if the creator of a fictional species says they can fly via high frequency vibration, then that means they can fly via high frequency vibration, no questions asked.
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No. 102454 ID: 398fe1

>>102451
GENERALLY fictional species have some reasonable explanation for the things they do. Even if it's "it's magic". This is just a misunderstanding of how vibration affects air and how lift is generated, I think.
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No. 102455 ID: 24100f

>>102451
I dunno, when something is integrated into or adapted for another setting, questions about what works there and why and how seem perfectly valid questions.

And even original works within their original context are not immune to criticism or analysis.

Tgchan: overthinking it.
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No. 102866 ID: 395c02

There were a billion words I wanted to type here, but... I'll be concise.

I wanted Slissa Quest to be a really high quality big major oh my god quest, but I just don't have it in me to spend 5-8 hours on each update.

It's more important to have the story told, so Slissa will be simplifying the art in future installments (most notably, dropping the shading). I hope this will make updates more frequent and solve the issue with its glacial pacing.

Here's a very rough plan of my questing in the days ahead:

In a few days: DRAGON ROMANCE THREAD 3

In 2-3 weeks: RETCON QUEST REVIVAL

Fall or winter 2016: RETCON DONE, SLISSA THREAD 2

Then it's slissa and dragon romance until one of them is done! Alongside possible one-shots, and art for TYPO QUESTS.

I'm not sure what I'll do when DR is done (since it is a patreon quest), but I'm sure future me will think of something.

After slissa is done, somewhere in 2018 or even 2019 for the 10th year anniversary, my final questing project... Tezakia Quest 2.
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No. 103141 ID: 395c02

Being a semi-retired mod, I'm a little rusty on what some policies are.

So like, should I set all boobs and such to Spoiler, or just images with genitals and sex and stuff?

This might be important, considering the, ah, gimmick of a future character.

I could have dylan do that thing he did with that one quest where the entire thread is set to spoiler until you click on it??
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No. 103142 ID: ca23c3

>>103141

Well, there's no set policy to my knowledge, but the guideline I've followed myself is that softcore (non-sexual/casual nudity, sexual activity left only implied/concealed/off-screen, no blatant "author appeal" focus/close-ups on details) is ok to show, and hardcore (close detail nudity shots, visible boners, graphic sexual activity) should be spoilered.

If you wanted to be a bit safer, you could spoiler any clearly visible genitals as well. But as far as boobs go, I think if you'd be able to see them on a french beach then there should be no problem leaving them exposed on what's basically a kind of art site.
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No. 103151 ID: 398fe1

AFAIK porn-related spoilers are entirely optional, but I think most people agree that graphic sexual acts should probably be spoilered.
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No. 103215 ID: 141621
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103215

someone edit this to be Ceri. :Vc
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No. 103245 ID: 4854ef

Really needed that segment huh.
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No. 103248 ID: 395c02

>>103245
All Venji segments are on the final, so they're very important if you want to get a good grade!
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No. 103250 ID: 91ee5f

>>103248
Plus, Venji just gave you a death threat, so you'd better do it or else she'll dimension hop over to you and beat the shit out of you! And I'm pretty sure you being her artist/creator isn't going to save you!
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No. 103251 ID: 395c02

In all seriousness, that update was insanely stressful and made me unhappy. I'll go ahead and explain my choices directly, rather than filtered through Ceri or Venji.

(attempt 6 at shortening this post. You really don't want to see how long it was originally!)

Ceri is my bustiest character by far. By 3 cup sizes I think. Going larger is harder to draw, and I don't personally find it attractive. It's okay from time to time (polymorphing), but I don't want it to be permanent. I made a mistake when I entertained it as an option and I'm sorry.

I don't want to draw lactation in my quest. I'm not comfortable doing so. I made a YUGE mistake in entertaining this as an option. This happens sometimes as I tend to write what I think makes sense for the world and/or the characters, rather than going "Mr. Ilan says it's impossible because I don't want to do it." I ended up having to do this anyway because the milk stuff was making me very unhappy.

Venji's segment is the only part of this update I liked writing (the last image was my favorite to draw, though. shiny~). Everything except her was the result of hours of work cramming a lot of information into as few words as possible. I don't have it in me to draw 10 image updates anymore and I get really uncomfortable if the amount of words per image climbs too high. I feel like I'm turning into Metal Gear Slinko when that happens.

I really hate that the updates I work the hardest one are almost always the ones I feel the worst about. I'm wheetley if he kept doing tests for 4 years after they stopped giving him that feeling of satisfaction upon being solved. I'm just glad the update is done and I can do something else nowadays.
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No. 103253 ID: 4854ef

Speaking of which, we aren't going to have Venji pop out again more often are we? I know this is a non-serious quest, but just to see that pop through was a bit much.
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No. 103254 ID: 3abd97

>>103251
You... know you're allowed to ignore the suggestors when they get too crazy. Right? You're not required to do everything they want. Characters can override the readers without 3 panels justifying it. Filters of some kind of another are kind of necessary.

I mean, it's not the first time the collective latched onto a silly idea.
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No. 103255 ID: 395c02

>>103253
She won't. Normally I have a "this is way too silly/dumb" filter, but it was in the shop for repairs.

It'll be back in time for the next update.


>>103254
I really don't like letting people down :<

If it's any consolation, the hours of editing and the decision to have a higher image count meant the milk stuff didn't get in the way of the plot much.

At least I did say no in the end, I guess. I almost ran the vote, which would have halted the story for 1 or 2 more updates and risked a very miserable slinko.

Milk: Never again.
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No. 103256 ID: 141621

>Milk: always
ftfy
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No. 103257 ID: 395c02

pls
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No. 103258 ID: c441c1
File 147269483064.jpg - (56.54KB , 500x333 , milk spill.jpg )
103258

>>103255
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No. 103259 ID: c441c1
File 147269485862.jpg - (295.46KB , 1919x895 , milk dragon slinko.jpg )
103259

>>103255
and another.
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No. 103260 ID: 398fe1

You would've let people down either way the vote went. Better to go with what made you happy as well.
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No. 103261 ID: 8dda0e

If it helps at all, I wasn't ever interested in the actual lactation stuff as a kink or anything. I truly, sincerely, just wanted... to game the system for scads of cash.

Money.

Gold.
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No. 103262 ID: 65d824
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103262

You seem to have forgotten that tgchan will always, always call your bluff. If tgchan had a strip poker personification it would seize every chance to play out a hand to the bitter end. If you play coy about a milk stat, the collective will zero in on that with laser focus.
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No. 103263 ID: 395c02
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103263

>>103258
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No. 103264 ID: 395c02
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103264

>>103261
If this were the only thing I had to deal with, I'd totally have gone for it.
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No. 103266 ID: db0da2

I kinda feel bad, seeing as I'm the one who first brought up the milk stat, but y'know what? Fuck it. I have no regrets. I pushed for something I believed in, and even if it didn't work out, I still did my part for the noble big milky titties cause. What else could i have done? don't actually answer that :V
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No. 103267 ID: 395c02
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103267

>>103262
The ironic part is I should be saying this to someone else. I've been doing this since 2009. I know this stuff.

Could it have been a momentary lapse in judgement?

No way. Clearly the most likely scenario is that I've gone back in time!!

Oh man! I have my youth back!

Now I can George Lucas Tezakia quest! Maybe lians have FOUR nipples now!!!

BRB CHANGING HISTORY


....

Okay back. It turns out if you do that, people tease you for 3 years because clearly you have a multiboob fetish

so i changed it back.

lessons learned: 0
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No. 103268 ID: 395c02
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103268

>>103266
I should stress that I'm not mad at anyone or anything! I don't want anyone feeling bad because of my own mistake!

Most of you had no way of knowing that this MILK stuff was a somewhat sore spot of mine (I could tell the story if you're interested I guess, but I'm going to assume not for now :X)

I'm already feeling better about it all. It sounds like the actual important plot stuff was at least passable, and that's the part I worked the hardest on (and the part that actually carries over into future updates).


...and... who knows. I might eventually become more comfortable with this kind of stuff (LESSONS LEARNED: -1). Silly as it sounds, I'm still getting used to the idea of running an explicitly lewd quest. Baby steps.

It's just really hard to shake that voice saying "If you allow this, it'll be 5 years of SLINKO HAS A LACTATION FETISH!!!!!!!!!! jokes". nevermind that the femdom one was kinda true er i mean nevermind that stop reading this abort abort
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No. 103269 ID: 595d54

>>103268
>could tell the story if you're interested I guess, but I'm going to assume not for now :X)
Mate this is an imageboard, of course everyone's curious now that you mentioned it.

And yeah, I don't blame you for being leery, sometimes collectives don't really know when to let go.
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No. 103271 ID: f562b1

>>103251
>Metal Gear Slinko
Sounds fun! I like Metal Gear Solid. And I really hope Konami comes to realize Survivor is a bad idea
Personally, I like all the story they throw into it. If you really want to give people an option to "Skip cutscene" just put it in colored text or something.
>It turns out if you do that, people tease you for 3 years because clearly you have a multiboob fetish
People tease you for literally everything.
>(I could tell the story if you're interested I guess, but I'm going to assume not for now :X)
Son, I've been asking ever since the egg portion where you first brought it up, but then you said "There's no way this will be remembered, and meta knowledge will be ignored" so I figured you just didn't want to talk about it and stopped asking.
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No. 103273 ID: 91ee5f

>nevermind that the femdom one was kinda true er i mean nevermind that stop reading this abort abort
I actually believe that. Especially since most of your female characters are dominant and very few of your male characters can say, "No." to the females and not get beaten up for that.

>>103269
>And yeah, I don't blame you for being leery, sometimes collectives don't really know when to let go.
What's that? Play that one song from Frozen? Ok!
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No. 103274 ID: 826ed5

>>103268
hey you're the one running the show, you get to call shots like this. (it never made sense, but lewdness has a power that removes the sense from many)
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No. 103275 ID: f0e552

>>103268
Ah, slinko, The MAIN reason people read this story is because it's interesting, entertaining to read, ALSO it's a slinko story (plus some people who only read for the porn but who even does that) so I wouldn't be concered, plot is a-ok. As for the milk stat, lots of people probably voted for it because it got bandwagoned and the milkvoters jumped on because it would be so ridiculous for ceri to have a milk stat on a statboard filled with legitimate stats, therefore rule of funny. If anything, I think people were just voting for her to have bigger tits. :P

Such is what happens when a quest has goofy moments and serious moments interspliced.
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No. 103276 ID: f0e552

>>103275
Though I must say, it was pretty unlucky to have suggesters rave over whether there should be a milk stat when Ceri was just surprised by something saddening or scary.
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No. 103277 ID: 4854ef

>>103275
Or people just might've thought it'd be interesting.. And a bit funny.
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No. 103278 ID: f0e552
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103278

>>103277
mm, yes this dragon now lactates, very interesting

I don't see it... Perhaps you meant what possibilities could come from increasing a milk stat??
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No. 103279 ID: c3f8b7

>>103268
Now i'm sure. Your characters try to take you over! Soon Venji will be there 24/7, commenting and influencing everything you do. You're doomed!
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No. 103281 ID: 395c02
File 147274282332.png - (148.97KB , 755x600 , 7346.png )
103281

>>103279
You know what Dragon romance needs?

More Tozols.
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No. 103282 ID: 665ed8

>>103281
This legitimately made me laugh
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No. 103284 ID: c9f250
File 147274788065.png - (232.28KB , 720x600 , chei_puppet.png )
103284

>>103281
Oh, we can do that?


Look at me, I'm Chei! Siphon's the cutest!
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No. 103285 ID: 4854ef

>>103278
Well we've already had a character react to the fact that a lizard has natural breasts (If due to a misguided jealousy), I'd be rather curious to other characters reaction, as well as such.
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No. 103286 ID: adaf4d

Fetishes are gross and fictional anthropomorphic characters should only consummate in the missionary position after marriage.
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No. 103287 ID: 826ed5

>>103286
yes, this is after all a good Crystian story.
When making a suggestion, always remember to ask oneself: what Crystal Dragon Jesus would do?
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No. 103288 ID: 141621

slinkobutt did you remember your tumblr?
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No. 103289 ID: c441c1
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103289

I had to wade through a lot of naked women for this one.
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No. 103295 ID: d11344

>>103289
Dammit now I want oreos and I've been sticking to my diet so well

Anyway to not shitpost here's something to contribute with. As the ashamed owner of a scrubbed fetish quest I am pro not injecting fetishes into a quest aimed at a wider audience despite what the suggestions say. Granted I have no experience in this particular field because the worst impulses were coming from myself, not the audience, BUT THE POINT REMAINS THE SAME
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No. 103296 ID: 3abd97

>>103295
Getting off topic for Slinko stuff, but for what it's worth, I was legit proud of how we / the audience handled that particular quest. It's too bad it made you feel ashamed, because I found the juxtaposition of a character / players doggedly trying to play things strait in a mad world to be very interesting. And it was a much better constructed / engaging mad-world than the weird fetish norm.

And you can't even say I was only in it for the fetishes because the copy I managed to scrape after you nuked the thread has all the images broken!
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No. 103298 ID: c441c1

Last one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty62YzGryU4
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No. 103302 ID: 395c02

So I have a growth on my left kidney that may or may not be cancerous but is rather big and requires an operation to both remove it and see wtf it is.

The odds are extremely low that I'm in any mortal danger, but this needs to happen before that changes.

The surgery is on the 12, meaning the following: Dragon Romance will pause for a week on the 12th or whenever the last update goes up before then

It also means Retcon's revival is delayed and both it and DR will be making comebacks after I recover from surgery.
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No. 103303 ID: c3f8b7

>>103302

Wish you the best of luck.
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No. 103304 ID: c441c1

>>103302
Wish you the best of luck Slinko.
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No. 103306 ID: f0e552

>>103302
Holy shit, it's good that you caught that when you did. If you've ever heard of TotalBiscuit, he had signs of bowel cancer but didn't seek out medical help, and he almost paid dearly for it.

Nonetheless, good luck!
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No. 103307 ID: 505f10

Fuck man. I hope it ends up being nothing serious. (Even though getting cut open is always serious)
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No. 103309 ID: 141621

>>103306
he's still paying for it, it was terminal last i checked.
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No. 103310 ID: 395c02

>>103306
Y-yeah... considering it's like 4x5cm in size it doesn't sound like I caught it "early", but Typo told me this type takes years and years to hit the point where it causes symptoms (and thus is too late to fix)

I'm going to take his word for it cause there are some things I'd rather not fact check and would prefer to enjoy "ignorance is bliss" about!
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No. 103311 ID: b7883c

Good luck on getting that removed. Its always better to deal with those sooner rather than later.
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No. 103312 ID: 726a91

>>103310
If it is confined to the Kidney itself (and a mass that size is Stage 1, barely Stage 2) then prognosis is excellent, the survival risk is more from the operation to remove some/all of the Kidney rather than the cancer itself (i.e. the same as any other operative risk). Catching it at this early stage really is excellent: I'm on a hair-trigger for any GI-tract issues due to a family history of Esophageal cancer (last two generations mortality). By the time that is symptomatic, it's often already Stage 4. Latest gastroscopy is thankfully clean.
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No. 103313 ID: 395c02
File 147292516274.png - (120.52KB , 393x600 , real size.png )
103313

Also, since it came up with a vengeance, here's the actual size and shape of Ceri's canonical boobies. I intended to do this a while ago as a 'bonus' for the dancing update, but didn't get around to it before now.

This is pretty much the reference I'll be coming back to in hopes of increasing accuracy despite how much more quickly update-art is vs trying-art.

Boobs are a weird thing because I mostly tried to learn from human females, but in the furry world each cup size is 2 inches instead of 1. Originally, Ceri was supposed to be a DD-cup. Rather than shrink her chest, I instead opted to make the lettering more accurate.

I kind of want to do a boob chart of all my lady characters sometime, making the appropriate corrections (Spoilers, Amiel and Dilia might have their 'b' and 'dd' retconned DON'T TELL VENJI)
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No. 103314 ID: 4854ef

Extra colored slinkoart is always a bonus! I also hope you get well, I knew several who had to put off even that because they couldn't afford it, so I hope that you will be both in both financial and health that you will do well.
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No. 103316 ID: 826ed5

>>103313
I can't stress how much I love Ceri's design, she also gets really nice outfits to go with it.
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No. 103320 ID: 395c02
File 147294025075.png - (64.82KB , 608x600 , ohgosh.png )
103320

btw i'm touched by the well wishes and kind words

y-you guys...!
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No. 103348 ID: 4e9864

>>103296
What quest was that?
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No. 103349 ID: 4e9864

>>103251
You really don't have to justify your choices to anyone. If you feel uncomfortable with something, you don't even have to explain it in the bounds of the quest. The protagonist is your character, influenced by suggestions, not a blank shell completely run by suggestions. It's OK for her to just go "ewww" and move on, or for you to just break the fourth wall for a moment and say "nope", without making it a thing.

As hilarious as it was to have a fourth-wall-shattering awesome-art cameo just to say "nope", you don't need to feel obligated to do that just to satisfy people, especially if it takes up time you'd rather spend on the quest itself.

(I'm sure everyone would love to hear the story you hinted at if you want to tell it, or not if you don't.)
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No. 103350 ID: 4e9864

>>103302
Best wishes and luck; here's hoping everything goes perfectly and there's absolutely nothing wrong.
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No. 103355 ID: 16f38c

>>103348
One of Cirr's quests that Cirr deleted. Check his questdis thread for the details: >>/questdis/103315.
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No. 103360 ID: a3ba2b

>>103320 seriously, please don't burn yourself out on things that stress you out to write, write what you like, forget what other people say. Yes, commenters have a say, and yeah, i personally love Ceri's bustiness and the sexiness of the quest and the quest in general - in fact, it's literally my favorite quest on TGChan right now!! But if something stresses you out, you SHOULDN'T feel unnecessarily oressured by us to do it anyway. That's not okay.
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No. 103361 ID: a3ba2b

And yeah, best of luck that the surgery goes well! Love you slinko, and i'll be hoping for your safe return ;v; <3
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No. 103362 ID: 3e182c

>>103302
Ask the Doctor who removes it to put it in a jar for you to keep.

We will name it for you.

You will be brothers.
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No. 103365 ID: 91ee5f

Good luck with your surgery! We'll be cheering for you!
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No. 103380 ID: 395c02

>I Like how Slink Drew the wing form further back and low detail to try and convince us not to pick it. The wing hate is strong in the Slink.

i had the finished image with the new form, but realized people don't actually know how i'd probably draw the wings, so i sort of just threw that in there too

they'd be simple not-kill-me wings

the aquatic form would look simpler too but i was having fun <:3
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No. 103381 ID: 4e9864

>>103380
Both of them look incredible; the wings look amazing, even in a small sketch.

From a sheer mechanics and abilities point of view, wings, no contest. The only temptation towards the aquatic form is the idea of it being a more "natural" form for us. Not that anything in our current form is "natural", and not that that matters.

If it's any comfort, it's not like we can walk around with them out very often. We'd likely be using them when flying, learning to fly, or...discovering other versatile possibilities of additional prehensile limbs.
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No. 103382 ID: 826ed5

>>103381
mechanics and abilities of the aquatic form are probably equally useful (it's probably more powerful in water than wings are in the air, we're just less likely to be doing underwater adventures), we'd just need to make sure what of Ceri's current toolkit would be negatively effected by usage underwater.
(I still voted for wings, but holy shit it was a hard choice. I want both dammit)
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No. 103383 ID: 91ee5f

>You gain the ability to enable this form for no MP.
Can you be a little more specific about this? Does this mean Ceri gets the aquatic form for no MP only during the MAGICAL LIMIT BREAK or can she get the aquatic form for no MP anytime she wants without the MAGICAL LIMIT BREAK?
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No. 103384 ID: ba506f

>>103382
yeah but if we get wings we're probably going to have to open up another skill slot for learning how to fly and with all our portal and teleporting magic I honestly don't think wings would actually do all that much.

that's just my 2 cents anyways
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No. 103385 ID: 91ee5f

Hey, now that I think about it, there's something that needs to be answered here. When exactly is Mr. Ilan going to explain how he knew Skif and his family are Dragon Hunters? And if he always knew about that, then when is he going to explain the logic behind letting a dragon live so close to a bunch of Dragon Hunters?
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No. 103386 ID: 4e9864

>>103383
The impression I got was that we'd get the aquatic form any time we wanted, as though polymorphing without using MP. Same with the wings in our normal form with the magical limit, or the dragon form if we'd chosen the dragon limit.

>>103385
I'd like to know that as well, especially since the details of Skif's species and culture didn't seem to be readily available except from the secret books he had to sneak to us.
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No. 103387 ID: 4e9864

>>103384
> yeah but if we get wings we're probably going to have to open up another skill slot for learning how to fly and with all our portal and teleporting magic I honestly don't think wings would actually do all that much.

Portals and teleporting make flying even more fun. All the fun of flight, without the hard physical work of ascending. (Though we should still learn that too; never know when we might need it, and on principle we shouldn't let magic get us lazy. Let's not go full "squishy wizard".)
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No. 103389 ID: 395c02

>>103383
She can literally run around in that form all day every day if she wants. Same with the wings-- they could just always be there if you convince her of it.

>>103384
She has to learn how to fly either way. At the most basic level this is a choice of infinitely being able to fly (eventually) or infinitely being able to water. Flight is inherently more useful, which is why I tried to "buff" water by drawing a cute aquatic form, and letting it buff speed a bit so Ceri could at least run a little faster??

>>103385
This was possibly the biggest thing cut from the giant plot update...

If you keep poking Ceri to ask, I might find a place to put it without bloating the text too much.

Maybe even in the next update... we'll see how it pans out.

This once-silly porn quest has become complex enough that I might have to start actually writing things down!
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No. 103390 ID: 2a7417

>>103389
In a quest about a dragon that romances, I think you accidentally "nerfed" the water form instead, especially given the ruckus about them just prior.
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No. 103391 ID: 91ee5f

>>103389
Ok, you asked for it. If Mr. Ilan doesn't explain himself in the next update, I'll poke Ceri to ask again.
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No. 103392 ID: 395c02
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103392

I feel like someone somewhere assumed Wings was a sure thing

Well, I don't think the vote is as one-sided as some of you might <:3c
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No. 103393 ID: 44bc30

>>103392

A couple of people did raise the question as to whether Skif could fly or not, and it does seem like it would be relevant to the choice?
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No. 103395 ID: 7d27b5

>>103389
Flight is only inherently more useful if we assume we're going to do overland or skyward shenanigans, the Aquatic form is actually significantly better (even without the speed buff) at what it does by comparison.
If you could somehow be assured an equal level of access to underwater areas as we do the sky, the Aquatic form is hands down superior.
Wings just grants 3D movement, Aqua form grants 3D movement in an environment that is inconvenient or deadly to most other people, plus you get to grant (control) the ability to breathe for a friend too (via kisses no less)...
but yeah, it's all for naught if you don't actually have the body of water to do it with.
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No. 103396 ID: 44bc30

I suppose another question relevant to the whole decision is whether the quest's setting has anything or anyone interesting underwater.

)I suspect that if we do take the aquatic form, it will turn out that there is.)
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No. 103398 ID: c91f5b

>>103393
I personally don't think Skif's wings are capable of flight, unless he's able to project energy wings out of them or something he's yet to display.
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No. 103399 ID: 395c02

>>103398
Galeacoma are not a race of my creation and apparently they are able to fly. I'll be giving my hand-wavy explanation for it soon.
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No. 103400 ID: 4854ef

I know it's probably silent, but all I can imagine buzzing/vibrating metal wings sounding like is a very angry metal fly.
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No. 103404 ID: c93238

>>103399
yeah, I am 99% sure that scientifically using small vibrations to generate lift is bullshit and there's no science behind it. I'll take 'magic' for 500, Alex.
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No. 103408 ID: 3e182c

>>103404
I mean if the direction and rate of oscillations are just right and the shape of the wing matches then yeah I guess but... Wouldn't that generate some intense heat? I mean sure the wings are big long heat-sinks but that just gives them more torque and not in a good way so even more energy would need to be pumped in and...

Yeah... If that's how Skiff's wings work they'd either be ripped from his back fairly quickly, Or cook him from the inside out.
Let's go with magic. Seems safer.
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No. 103409 ID: 3abd97

>>103408
I'd think you'd run the risk of hitting the resonant frequency of your body and/or the wings and popping before magic flight is achieved.
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No. 103415 ID: b7883c

Tinfoil hat explanation: Flight just is what they tell people. Their "wings" are actually legs that reach into other dimensions and push off things there, allowing them to skitter through the sky. Feel a prickle on your back? It might be a Galeacoma momentarily climbing on you.
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No. 103427 ID: 395c02
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103427

Continuing to hijack Slinko's discussion thread for the time being!

So I'm sure some of you have been asking about why there haven't been any new giant ketza quest updates in like a month.

... wait, nobody was asking that? Really? aww

Anyway it turns out that (as has I guess happened several times earlier in my questing career) it's actually kind of difficult for me to pick something up and feel confident in where I'm going with it after not doing anything with it for like half a year or more. The biggest reason updates have been so slow is it's been way harder to actually write them than I anticipated, which I would like to say is a new problem for me but I would be lying if I said that.

So, the quest is on hold for now. I'd like to promise I'd come back to it one day, but anyone familiar with my questing history would probably see that as a bit of an empty promise so I'm not actually going to do that.

However, there's another idea I've been playing with in my head for literal months now, which is probably the most time I've put into thinking about a quest in four or five years at this point. So, my hope is that sometime in the near future (probably after Slinko recovers from his surgery) you'll at least get to see something from me, and with any luck my enthusiasm will hold at least long enough to where enough is set up that I don't have to get so bogged down in update-writing this time. Gotta retain that OG quester cred somehow.
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No. 103434 ID: d11344

>>103427
OG questers represent

Looking forward to it!
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No. 103437 ID: db0da2

>>103415
I like this explanation because it's both kinda silly and vaguely creepy.

Or you could just have them work like insect wings.
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No. 103440 ID: 395c02

>>103415
It's always fun when people affect quests in indirect ways.

I mean.

Nothing. Ignore me.


Also DR updates are going to return to their usual speed now i just wanted to get through all that and i think we ended on an option that will please the most people.

sadly, as much as I want to, I can't please everyone. So in some ways, much like Ceri, I followed my heart.
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No. 103443 ID: 77f422

Damn... With that addition to the aquatic form, all milkstatjokes will go the way of the rotary telephone. Only remembered by living fossils (like me).
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No. 103444 ID: f0e552

>>103440
i didn't realise that by choosing an option, Ceri would stand the risk of losing her boobs, I felt like the representation of the dragons in the upgrade images were just 'natural' dragons, and thus didn't have boobs.

Good thing Ceri fought back against it, hmm?
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No. 103447 ID: 16f38c

>>103444
Um, actually, the choice was for a alternate form Ceri could shift into at-will for no MP cost, not a permanent change. This means her default form, including her boobs, would have remained the same even if her aquatic form was flat-chested.
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No. 103452 ID: 4e9864

FWIW, the open-ended questions and prompts in the latest quest thread, such as https://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/743976.html#743982 , https://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/743976.html#744871 , and https://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/743976.html#745444 , seemed to work out well.
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No. 103491 ID: 395c02

Surgery is tomorrow at 8am, so DR is going to be paused until probably next monday, depending on recovery time (which shouldn't be too long, as it's minimally invasive).


>>103452
This is comforting! Really, this is how all my other quests are run, but since I attribute part of DR's relatively high suggestion rate to the ease of just picking options, I was worried it'd put people off.
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No. 103492 ID: 91ee5f

>>103491
Good luck, Slinko! See you next week! ^_^
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No. 103500 ID: 48cb0c

>>103491
Good luck dude!
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No. 103504 ID: 881425

>>103491
get well soon!
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No. 103505 ID: ba506f

>>103491
see you next week slinko
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No. 103506 ID: b7883c

Good luck! (Have fun?)
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No. 103515 ID: 4e9864

>>103491
The downside of just picking options is the devolution into voting. With those open-ended items, it seemed like you just picked a combination of suggestions that made sense and rolled with them.
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No. 103516 ID: 4e9864

>>103491
> Surgery is tomorrow at 8am, so DR is going to be paused until probably next monday, depending on recovery time (which shouldn't be too long, as it's minimally invasive).

Best of luck, Slinko!
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No. 103531 ID: 395c02
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103531

So. Uh.

I may have misunderstood the purpose of this appointment. It wasn't for the surgery-- it was for the consultation of the surgery.

When I had my gallbadder done, this was handled a bit differently, which lead to my confusion. I really appreciate all the well wishes, and feel super bad that there's no actual surgery yet to be wished well on !!

The REAL surgery is the 27th, and today I learned I'll be losing my left kidney and the recovery time is a bit longer than gallbladder's but not horrible.

the probably-cancer is in the center, in such a way that I might have secretly only had one working kidney this whole time.

What this means:
DR will continue (and I wrote such a nice update to pause on, too...) until the 27th

Venji's revival... I'd still rather wait till after the surgery for it. D-don't punch through my monitor venji!!!

so um. s-sorry for the false-ish alarm. REAL SURGERY LATER.
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No. 103533 ID: 91ee5f

>>103531
Holy shit! You've recovered from the surgery already?! O_O Wow, the miracles of medical science are pretty amazing! This is-
>It wasn't for the surgery-- it was for the consultation of the surgery.
.....oh.

>Venji's revival... I'd still rather wait till after the surgery for it. D-don't punch through my monitor Venji!!!
Don't worry about her showing up. Ever since she lost her wings, she's been too embarrassed to be seen in by anyone. So, you've still got some time to do something before she shows up! .....I hope.
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No. 103534 ID: 5071b8

>>103531
The sentiment stands and shall do so until your inevitable recovery!
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No. 103548 ID: ba506f

>>103531
sorry to hear about the kidney but still glade you're doing ok at least. I'll wish you well again around the 27th regardless
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No. 103565 ID: 505f10

>>103531
>losing my left kidney
Jeez. That sucks. Just don't play a round of sports ball (ever again) and damage your other one and you should be ok. Do you think you have anyone that would be able to give you one if you got in a wreck or something and got hurt? You can live on dialysis, but the people I know that have that says it sucks.
Again, hope it goes well.
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No. 103640 ID: 5c3807

I'm there will eventually be an intermission filled with nothing but GIANT BIRD AND CONCERNED DOLPHIN comics.
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No. 103650 ID: 398fe1

Jeez I hope the quest thread doesn't get past 1000 posts before we even meet all the people in the title image.
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No. 103661 ID: 4e9864

GIANT BIRD and CONCERNED DOLPHIN are sad right now, because their friend SLINKY SNAKE is shedding a skin for the first time, and he's really worried about it. GIANT BIRD and CONCERNED DOLPHIN want to reassure SLINKY SNAKE, but they don't know how to help, except to be supportive for their friend.

GIANT BIRD and CONCERNED DOLPHIN, and all their other friends in the background, love their friend SLINKY SNAKE, and hope they have many more adventures together soon.
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No. 103684 ID: 395c02

i sure ponder deep things about characters in the most random ways

For instance, I imagine a lot of women in Ceri's position would totally have gone for reduction. There's lots of problems: back pain, getting in the way, awkward bounciness even with a bra on.

For many, a permanent change is the best and only way to get relief from those issues.

So I thought to myself, why wouldn't Ceri?

Well, despite having a "mortal" lizard body, her dragon-ness has actually bled into her normal body somewhat-- she's tougher than normal lizards and takes less damage than her parents would if they all stubbed their toe.

(This is why she was able to handle Skif their first time. A mortal would have likely been in too much pain to find anything pleasurable, but her dragon-infused body is able to take much more punishment and generally hurts much less.)

So she doesn't actually have back-pain. As for the other issues, permanently changing your body, I think, would lose some appeal if you can literally spend 10+ hours a day with a flat chest now that your MP pool is gigantic. Ceri has a pretty easy "opt out" if she gets annoyed with her body, and in a weird way the polymorphing gives her a stronger appreciation for what her body normally is.

Even if that normal body is slightly a lie itself.


(so many words sry if that's bad. wait wasn't i going to tell a story about something?)
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No. 103829 ID: 395c02

So here's the new surgery plans:

2 more dragon romances, likely on the 23rd and 26th (I wanted to do 3, but worry and other things are making it harder to focus)

on the 27th, git cut

Then 1 week of rest (I might... miiiiiight do drug-fueled CONCERNED DOLPHIN AND GIANT BIRD comics during this time and post them here, we'll seeeeeeee)

Roughly on OCT 03 I will see how I feel and delay further if needed, or get back to DR and work towards reviving RETCON QUEST.
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No. 103835 ID: 505f10

>>103829
Just let us know you are ok slinko. Dont worry about anything else. Also if they offer you a nerve block (like they did for my ankle when they cut it open) take it. Shit keeps that part of you numb (feeling absolutely nothing) for like 5 days and thats long enough that the pain reduced to where i could deal without drugs. They still gave me oxy for any pain that did pop up though.
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No. 103898 ID: ba506f

good luck with your thing tomorrow Slinko, see you when you get back.
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No. 103914 ID: 395c02

And... that's it for now.

Thanks to everyone for all the well wishes. The surgery is at 5:30am tomorrow.

I'll see you on the other side.
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No. 103915 ID: 398fe1

>>103914
Good luck!
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No. 103916 ID: a0cb83
103916

Have a safe recovery!
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No. 103918 ID: 8013df

Do get better Slink! Us oldies have to stick together.
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No. 103928 ID: 4e9864

>>103829
Hope all goes well, Slinko.
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No. 103933 ID: 1793c8

And then Slinko gained superpowers and never quested again.
Except on slow days.
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No. 103937 ID: 71d443

>>103933
Slinko's gonna quest every day?
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No. 103941 ID: 3e182c

See ya when your body isn't trying to kill you!
I sure hope the doctors beat up that rouge kidney real good for ya! The traitorous bastard!
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No. 103946 ID: 8ebcd0

Hey it's me the other guy who posts in this thread sometimes, reporting from the hospital. Slinko is still super out of it but the surgery went as intended with no complications or anything like that!
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No. 103948 ID: 505f10

>>103946
Yay.
Tell him to give his acceptance speech for the award he won. Depending how out of it he it might be funny.
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No. 103949 ID: 1793c8

So did they manage to get rid of the twelfth head?
what about the lower infernal gate to the quadth plane existence?
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No. 103950 ID: ba506f

>>103946
so how loopy are the drugs making him?
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No. 103951 ID: 91ee5f

>>103946
Tell him one of his quest characters has come to visit him and see how he reacts. It might be funny to see him carrying a conversation with Chei or Jiniki or someone else.

Or you could tell him Venji has come to him in his moment of weakness to threaten him to work on her quest!
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No. 103955 ID: 8cb228

>>103946
Glad to hear there were no problems or issues! Where do we send the get well cards / flowers / hookers?
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No. 103957 ID: 4e9864

Great news! Thanks for the update, and please do pass along everyone's best wishes.
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No. 103979 ID: 639b22

Hi I'm alive! Rather than the drug fueled bliss the doctor implied i'd have, I mostly felt tired and in pain, and queasy. I've felt weak, but I'm improving bit by bit. Sadly I can't offer fun bonus content because of my kinda I'll feeling... Will update you when I can look at the phone or computer longer
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No. 103981 ID: 3725ee

>>103979
Don't worry about things here, just let yourself get better.
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No. 103982 ID: 505f10

Take it easy for a while at least. Drink some ginger ale, and take a nice big rest on the softest, warmest thing you own. (as for the meds not giving you that addled state, it's my opinion that oxycodine sucks dick and is boring. I ended up not using even a third of mine cause of the nerve block, so I've just got a bottle floating around the next time I get hurt.)
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No. 103983 ID: 141621

>>103979
drug fueled bliss is what causes addiction so be thankful I guess.
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No. 104000 ID: c441c1

hey Slinko YOU NERD! your beautiful.
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No. 104001 ID: 395c02

I'm definitely doing better now. I think I need to take more time before I can hop into updating all the quests but I'm finally like, mobile and not always blinking in and out of consciousness. I can actually kinda focus some now. I'm home now, also.

>drug fueled bliss is what causes addiction so be thankful I guess.
It's strange because drug-filled bliss IS what happened after my gallbladder surgery! I guess mixing oxy with tylonol makes it high you...less...?

that or it's because I was using more of it then (since it was pure oxy + I literally was sent home an hour after surgery. no liver worries, lots of pain to kill)

This time around, by the time I was in control of my dosage (the nurses were in charge until I came home), my pain was much more managable, and my desire to keep my liver became far stronger than my desire for "fun times" :x


TLDR; Doing better! But still very much in the "recovery" phase.

>hey Slinko YOU NERD! your beautiful.
Thanks! ...???
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No. 104004 ID: 4e9864

>>104001
Great to hear from you, and glad you're recovering well.

Don't feel like you need to rush back to questing on our account. Take the time to recover if you need it. We'll be here when you're ready to return; your quests are awesome, and well worth the wait.
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No. 104007 ID: b7883c

Glad to hear you are doing well.
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No. 104020 ID: 9e534f

Glad you're doing well dude! Hope you have a speedy recovery.
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No. 104044 ID: c441c1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klTw94kTstg
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No. 104085 ID: 395c02
File 147565837966.png - (130.07KB , 718x600 , Chei hugs.png )
104085

i want to hug literally all of you through the screen right now


I think I will try to revive Dragon Romance on the 10th, and tentatively Retcon on the 17th or so.
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No. 104087 ID: ba506f

>>104085
welcome back slinko.
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No. 104110 ID: c57f6b

Yay! You're back! We're so happy to know it went well for you.

Just... uh, don't drool on the fourth wall.
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No. 104254 ID: 395c02

I'm still very much recovering, it seems. Some days I feel fine, other days less fine.

DR updates will meander a bit because of this, but i'll update as much as i'm able.

VENJI might have to wait a bit longer until I'm at 100%

oh no don't look at me like that venji HELP I'M BEING PIRATED
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No. 104259 ID: 91ee5f

>>104254
>oh no don't look at me like that venji HELP I'M BEING PIRATED
Bad Venji! Stop illegally copying Slinko!
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No. 104260 ID: 395c02
File 147642106119.png - (193.38KB , 800x600 , oh no my life story.png )
104260

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No. 104261 ID: 91ee5f

>>104260
I was actually thinking that she had your head shoved onto a xerox copier/printer machine that was somehow making clones of you.

But this.....this is much better. Well done, Slinko!

And as for you, Venji! You've been found guilty of illegally copying Slinko! Your punishment is that your quest now has to wait another year before being revived! I hope you've learned your lesson from this! D-:<
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No. 104263 ID: 3abd97

So long as the copy still runs quests, I am fine with this.
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No. 104264 ID: ba506f

>>104260
is that the rumored slinko gone wild dvd? The one where you actually see him without his beak? I thought that was a myth?
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No. 104265 ID: 141621

>>104260
venji keep copying him until we reach lagotrope levels of update speed
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No. 104277 ID: 32ea21

personally i am very happy that slinko's embraced the furry side and adopted the alter-ego of slinkoactualbirb
because he is CUTE aaaaa
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No. 104278 ID: 32ea21

hey typo could you give slinko a hug on behalf of all of us sometime? A nice, firm bear hug because all of us love you ok
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No. 104297 ID: 395c02

>>104277
I-I-I um oh gosh

chei is the closest i have to a fursona i dunno about making something specifically for it to be "me" tho !!


Anyway. I went through and figured out that the last time I got fanart in the fanart thread was in 2012. This is kind of saddening!

But someone pointed out that perhaps it is caused by my lack of drawing fanart. Nonsense! The last time I drew fanart in the fanart thread was... 2012...

So.

I might do something about that soon.....
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No. 104300 ID: ca0e20

>>104297
I know it doesn't count, but Ceridwen's easter egg/cameo in Shark Quest can be kind of a form of fanart, even if it wasn't a pic posted in the fanart thread!

Having said that, I have been meaning to draw her proper. I'm just lazy about fanarts (and the recent ones only happened cause of Inktober).
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No. 104343 ID: 395c02

>>104300
It's still neato!!! I usually do little things like this whenever Ceri goes to her room but it's one of those things where you either A: gamble slightly on them being ok with a reference or B: seek them out and ask which is a lot of work for a silly poster

so it's a thing that'd be neat if it happened more, but I guess I see why it doesn't.


There's actually a weird phenomenon I noticed where I'm usually not thought of for things. I joke about it sometimes, but it's a big thing I noticed and also a big thing I can't talk about without sounding like I'm whining for attention.

Like...

Since I put tezakia on the wiki featured page myself (I forget when, but it was early-- 2011 or 2012), a slinko quest has never been featured on the wiki (to my knowledge).

I am very, very rarely on lists (that I see) on this site where people list quests/authors they enjoy or know about.

Fanart for slinkostuff is pretty rare in general, and almost always comes from my circle of friends. I already pointed out my complete absence from the fanart thread since 2012 :X


Outside of those specific things, though, the story changes. There's two tabletops that exist based on Tezakia Quest, another tabletop that had ketzas in it (mostly my doing, though), and I've had people tell me Tezakia was their second or third quest (usually after Ruby and Mudy??).

So I don't exactly feel unappreciated, especially with DR getting more suggestions than i know what to do with half the time, but it is something I spent years noticing.
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No. 104347 ID: 3abd97

>a slinko quest has never been featured on the wiki (to my knowledge)
>I am very, very rarely on lists (that I see) on this site where people list quests/authors they enjoy or know about.
To be fair a lot of people I would consider big name authors haven't had a quest featured.

Also as one of the few dudes who updates things like that, I know I tend to try and use the feature slot as a signal boost- drawing attention to some cool new quest and/or author that could deserve some love, rather than heaping love on those already established. I will admit I've been deliberately cautious about being biased and shining the spotlight on my own favorites. (I swear I've given the exact same apology to Lago).

For what it's worth, a half-slinko quest did get featured last year, though!
http://www.tgchan.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Featured_Article&oldid=23740
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No. 104348 ID: 91ee5f

>>104343
I think that's because no one but you can properly draw your characters and everyone doesn't want to insult your characters' adorableness.

Like that one time Lagotrope tried to draw Jiniki and he said he hoped you didn't mind him messing her up (this was a few years ago in his draw thread.....I think).
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No. 104351 ID: ca0e20

>>104343
That does seem strange. I could theorize as to why, but it would mostly be a bunch of guesses.

At the very least though, I would probably put Tezakia Quest as third best completed quest that I would recommend to someone I introduce to quests. Others being RubyQuest and NanQuest. Ruby being pretty good as an introduction, Nan being a great follow-up to Ruby and Tezakian being a quest full of cutes, emotions and, while taking place in one area, feels like a big journey.

Also I wanted to draw a character from Tezakia Quest when I was reading it, but back then I could only come up with pinups for her, lol. I guess I prefer doing something better for fanart and ended up procrastinating forever. Now I wish I hadn't since I could have broken the combo without knowing! Well darn it!

But overall, I do have a hard time coming up with a good way to draw certain fanart characters and I would say that the characters I wanted to draw from your quests always fell into that category. No idea why though.
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No. 104356 ID: 395c02

>>104347
I guess it half counts!?

The wiki in general probably needs more love than it gets.


>>104348
I... guess?? at least for characters like Jiniki, who has a kinda unique-ish look to her. And maybe the slissas/ketzas... and I guess Venji.

...Huh.

One reason I rarely did fanart was a fear of messing up peoples' characters. Perhaps I should take the first step by ..not.. worrying!?!?

>>104351
It probably doesn't help that I wasn't sure how to feel about sus art until like 2014 or so.

And I've decided sus art is cool.

Which might be why I'm doing a sus quest now.

That and patreon.

This is partly because of the history of tgchan. In the early days, there was a prolific quest author who made a thing of drawing horrific, disgusting adult/fetish art of stuff, and it kind of scared me away from being "okay" with sus for a long long time.

But I'm an old man now, and that's in the distant past!


But the combo will be broken soon! I WILL IGNORE MY FEARS AND MESS UP SOME PEOPLES' CHARACTERS! Once I stop feeling out of it due to post-surgery sleep issues. Seriously the last DR is a bit weak because i couldn't focus but felt i had to not let 4 days pass without an update aaaaaa
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No. 104360 ID: 91ee5f

>>104356
>Seriously the last DR is a bit weak because i couldn't focus but felt i had to not let 4 days pass without an update aaaaaa
No! Bad Slinko! Don't make me bop you on the head with a rolled up newspaper! If you need rest then get some rest! Don't worry about us, we'll wait for you to get better!
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No. 104369 ID: ca0e20

>>104356
I'll have to admit that I never came across the term "sus art" before. Based on that one longer phrase, you mean porn and pinup?

But anyway, main other thing I wanted to add is that it doesn't matter if you "mess up" a character while drawing fanart of them. All artist draw in their own way and it's fine if you omit details, add details or if the proportions are different. It be super weird if every single person that attempted to draw a character would draw them exactly the same as everyone else. I don't even know if it's all that possible! Like maybe Kirby is pretty consistent between artists, but even if someone draws him "off model", people still register him as Kirby and it's fine!
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No. 104371 ID: 505f10

>>104343
>Tezakia was maybe their second or third quest
If it makes you feel any better, it was my first. I ran into a deviant art flash one and worked backwards from it. I got lead to the tgchan wiki and then looked at the major completed quests listed. I read all of them pretty fast.
I also did not figure out for like 8 months of checking back into the wiki every once in a while that there was an actual quest site, and that it wasnt just an aggregate wiki.
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No. 104374 ID: 395c02
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104374

>>104360
i'm sooorryyy i just don't want to make people have to waiiit

in general I thought I'd heal faster than I have been. I still have a wound (unstitched) that is a week or two from closing, and there's tons of soreness making sleep a pain. literally.


>>104369
I forget how injokey that term is sometimes. Sus, suspect... porn/nakey basically.

I-I guess so...! But it's hard for me not to try and mimic the style of whatever I'm fanarting.


>>104371
Oh, I'm perfectly happy being third or fourth when the competition contains things like freaking Ruby Quest!

Or Journey... here's a fun fact: Sekani was inspired by Demesi-- kinda. I wanted to make a bird because I wanted to explore the flying mechanic (which TeQ didn't really do in the end, oops).

Amiel was inspired by Ven from Deep, if anyone remembers that. This often surprises people cause they assume she was inspired from another character in Journey. Maybe due to the snout?

Still, to think anyone actually read the weird Deviant Art flash version... I guess that makes the weeks of work worth it!

Also liking Tezakia Quest automatically makes us friends. It's in slinko law.
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No. 104375 ID: c441c1

>>104374
Yay Slinko is my friend. No but seriously Slinko you just went though major surgery while it might feel like a looming thing to update your quest only do it when you feel like it stress can cause wounds to heal slower so if you start having panic attacks about the quest sure go ahead and update just remember that you still need to rest or your impeccable quality might start slipping.
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No. 104381 ID: 141621

>>104374
so is that why sekani is such a doofus and has stretchy pants?
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No. 104382 ID: 398fe1

>>104374
>unstitched wound
Why?
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No. 104383 ID: 91ee5f

>>104374
>Still, to think anyone actually read the weird Deviant Art flash version... I guess that makes the weeks of work worth it!
Wait, that was on DA also?! I found that flash on FA and that's what got me into questing!
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No. 104386 ID: 505f10

>>104382
I kinda agree with this. How big of a cut/wound is it? They stitched my 2.5 inch foot cut thing closed.(sorry if i bring it up too much, its the only surgery i have to compare it to) What do you mean a week or two from closing? It probably shouldnt be weeping/puss still at this point unless its a big cut (and they should use stiches then). In the end though; surgeon knows best. He's certainly had more training in it than me.
>I thought I'd heal faster
Deep cuts/wounds take a long time to heal. Worst thing that might happen with those is a bit of infection gets in and the top closes/seals off. Would easily cause an absess(which would need to be drained/packed; which takes quite a bit of time to heal).

>in slinko law
Friends in bird law then. Neat.
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No. 104399 ID: 395c02

>>104381
Sekani kind of became a doofus on his own. The stretchy pants were just based on how I drew them, but I guess you could argue that I was subconsciously channeling Demesi there!

>>104383
Now I'm even more glad I put the effort into making the FLASH VERSION! Interestingly, the FA version was a big challenge. They had a strict 10mb (or was it 5?) file size limit, and the Tezakia flashes are preeetty big. The FA version had some chapters cut in half I think? And had the jpg quality turned way down. But now I see it was worth the struggle if it got at least one person interested in quests!

>Friends in bird law then. Neat.
Birb friends!!

>>104382
I wish I knew. It was the size of a nickle maybe 2-3cm?) and about 3-4mm deep. Right now it has more of a cut/slit appearance, being as long as a dime (2cm) and like 3-4mm wide. It's still that deep, so I guess it's closing in from the sides??

The doctor basically gave me a few antibiotics and told me to let it fly free in the air, suggesting I wear old shirts because it's gonna puss all over them. Oddly, the suggestion was against bandages!

One problem I'm facing right now is this wound is still open, and there was a clerical error that meant my follow up appointment is on the 27th instead of the 17th, so I've been trying to get some more pain meds and I finally got someone to do something on that end today, but can't get the pills till tomorrow.

My pain is not debilitating, but the discomfort is real when powered by tylonol alone, and sleep has been very difficult due to soreness and itchiness, things that tylonol alone don't combat very well.


In other words... I'm going to sit here sleep deprived and kind of miserable till i get them tomorrow, use them to sleep for once, then maybe be able to do a DR on friday

sorry for such delays :<
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No. 104400 ID: 398fe1

>>104399
>open wound
>no bandages
????????? are they... trying to get it infected? Or did you at least get a bandaid?
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No. 104403 ID: 395c02

>>104400
i dunnoooo

but when i do give in and bandage it it always seems to do worse than letting it fly open so maybe they're on to something
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No. 104404 ID: 141621

ask tumblr update when?
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No. 104405 ID: ba506f

>>104403
maybe they're afraid that the bandage would tug and open the wound further. Or that it would irritate the wound and not let it heal properly. Not really sure, just tossing some ideas out but those are about the only thing I can think of so as to why they would leave it open.
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No. 104408 ID: 91ee5f

>>104399
>But now I see it was worth the struggle if it got at least one person interested in quests!
And I thank you for your struggles! :3

>>104404
When he's feeling better and not in pain!
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No. 104409 ID: 505f10

>2-3cm
Ok, makes a bit more sense for no stiches then. As for no bandage it might have to do with the closing up on top thing, or the irritation. There is the option of packing the wound(putting strips of gauze inside the cut to absorb the gunk), but they would mention it if they wanted you to do it and show you how to change the strips. Do Not pack wounds without knowing what you are doing. You can fuck it up decently badly.

>gave me a few antibiotics
You got enough to at absolute least last you til the 27th going by the dosage they give you? (if it says take it twice a day, actually take it twice a day. Resistant infections are no joke)
If so take that and remember that you can take Advil(Nsaid) in addition to Tylenol(Acetaminophen) since they act on different pathways. Just don't take Advil for a long period of time(more than 10 days) cause it also acts as a bit of a blood thinner. It's more than one pill a day of each too, (since max a day dose pills are no longer legally able to be sold over the counter) but look on the back of the bottle to see how many it is of each. If the itching really bothers you, you might want to try some Benadryl once or twice. It's an antihistamine so it might help.(not sure on it since it more applies to allergic reactions, but it helped with a bee sting and should cause you to be sleepy anyways)

Hope you can get some rest. Sorry for internet doctoring you.
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No. 104423 ID: 395c02

>>104404
i keep forgetting it exist i'm sorry
I GUESS REMIND ME FROM TIME TO TIME??

>>104409
it was just 10 pills, so 5 days. It was a precaution rather than any actual attempt to stop infection. They also took a culture, which I've not heard back from. I assume there's nothing to worry about from it at this point. It's (FINALLY) starting to actually look like it's in repair mode, rather than always looking like it was just formed

you know, part of me wants to just do bonus content stuff for a while rather than hunker down to quest... but I think it'd be better to not put off fun (sexy?) dragon adventures longer than i gotta...

maybe i will be able to do both now that i have pills and can sleep again
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No. 104429 ID: ca0e20
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104429

Here's a more "in theme-ish" version for this thread! =P
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No. 104430 ID: 395c02
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104430

>>104429
Oh my gosh !!!!!

Thank you so much~!!


NOW I AM EVEN MORE MOTIVATED TO BEGIN THE FANARTING
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No. 104431 ID: 91ee5f

>>104430
Wow, the fanart was so good it made Slinko's hat and beak grow extra mouths! O_o

>NOW I AM EVEN MORE MOTIVATED TO BEGIN THE FANARTING
*is excitedly waiting for the fanarts* :3
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No. 104432 ID: ca0e20

>>104430
Glad you like it! And looking forward to see, well frankly, any art from you! Probably why I follow you on FA! =3
So of course I'm looking forward to see the fanart you make also, heheh.
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No. 104456 ID: 395c02

I had written the DR update last night, feeling kinda okay, then today I just felt completely awful.

So many thanks for trout for stepping in for me!!!!
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No. 104458 ID: 91ee5f

>>104456
>I had written the DR update last night, feeling kinda okay, then today I just felt completely awful.
Aw, that sucks. :'-(

>So many thanks for trout for stepping in for me!!!!
Wow, what a life saver that fish is!

Trout also posted a nifty Ceridwen picture in the fanart thread.

I'm surprised at this sudden influx of Ceridwen fanart! Maybe it's everyone's way of saying they hope you feel better soon? If that's the case, then everyone will cure you through the power of fanarts!
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No. 104465 ID: 141621

how did you get trout to consent to drawing lizard boobs? :V
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No. 104470 ID: 395c02

>>104465
he did that on his own!!
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No. 104472 ID: ca0e20

>>104470
I wanna say that he's at a point where he draw lizard tits so often on commissions and Patreon request that he's fine drawing them, even if he's not a huge fan of them. But I could be remembering it wrong.
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No. 104482 ID: 398fe1

Slinko did you start a new quest???
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No. 104483 ID: 395c02

>>103427
So this exists now:
>>/quest/754739
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No. 104485 ID: 398fe1

>>104483
Typo did you start a new quest???
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No. 104486 ID: 395c02

>>104485
it's possible
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No. 104589 ID: 395c02

This surgery has been the worst

I'm feeling sick again, bouts of queasiness and all, so expect even more delays

i think i can maybe draw for typo during the high periods, but my mind is in no shape to do writing for DR...

i'm failing everyoooneeee
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No. 104590 ID: ba506f

>>104589
>i'm failing everyoooneeee

no you're not, you just recovering after life threw a brick at your face and stole your wallet. Nobody is blaming your for anything.
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No. 104591 ID: 398fe1

>>104589
Rest and get better!
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No. 104592 ID: 91ee5f

>>104589
>I'm feeling sick again, bouts of queasiness and all, so expect even more delays
Oh no! The power of fanarts didn't heal you! DX

>i'm failing everyoooneeee
No, you're noooootttt!
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No. 104594 ID: 395c02

>>104590
does it count if i blame me
no?
and I need to stop doing that literally right now?

aw geez

>>104592
they made me smile tho

at least i die knowing the 4 year curse has been broken.. ah...

wait no the other one where i don't die and keep being alive let's do that.
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No. 104658 ID: 91ee5f

>>104594
If you die, then I'm going to get the defibrillator and bring you back to life!

CLEAR!!!
*BZZZZZT!!!*
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No. 104696 ID: 395c02
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104696

>>104658
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No. 104698 ID: 91ee5f

>>104696
Uhhh, oops. Sorry about that. ^_^;;
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No. 104699 ID: eabed5

>i'm failing everyoooneeee
You've been updating (unlike me) after actual surgery (instead of just a bunch of grad school work).
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No. 104810 ID: ba506f

>>104696
should I be worried that this makes me want to have some chicken wings for dinner?
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No. 104882 ID: 395c02
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104882

>>104810
<--


btw i'm feeling better but you probably noticed that

I'm not at 100% but I'm definitely closer than I was a couple days ago!

DR will hopefully be able to return to some kind of normal speed. RETCON someday.
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No. 104883 ID: 5ef86a

>>104882
Retcon yesterday, of course.
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No. 104888 ID: 91ee5f

>>104882
>RETCON someday.
Just by reading this, I can hear the sounds of Venji's screams of rage.

Or maybe that's the sound of Venji breaking all of Slinko's bones and putting him back in the hospital?
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No. 104895 ID: b7883c

>RETCON someday
You can just do it later then say you did it now :V
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No. 105170 ID: 395c02

I'm finally mostly healed from surgery! The gaping wound has finally closed (still healing, but no longer exposing my innards to the elements), and the pain is mostly soreness at this point.

As thus: My Revised questing schedule!

Early November: VENJI'S RETURN DAMMIT

Early 2017: SLISSA QUEST REVIVES

2018? I hope?: DR AND SQ FINISH, TEZAKIA 2 BEGINS.

Tezakia 2 is intended to be my final tgchan quest, but... who knows?

There may also be one-shots that happen here or there. Not for a while, though, since I'm currently doing DR, drawing Koror, and eventually drawing Retcon.

Once I get less swamped, I'll do some fanarts. How fun!
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No. 105175 ID: 91ee5f

>>105170
What about Hugs Quest Gaiden?
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No. 105188 ID: 395c02

>>105175
The schedule doesn't include Typo-written quests.

He'd have to tell you about that one!
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No. 105189 ID: 395c02

>>105188
I'm nowhere near reliable enough to feel comfortable committing to anything in the future!

At best I can say that any discussion of Hugs Quest Gaiden returning would need to come after Koror Quest, or at least after Koror Quest reaches a thread break (depending on how long it turns out to be). I'm not about to ask Slinko to draw two quests at the same time!
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No. 105522 ID: 395c02

SO NOW I'M RUNNING 2 QUESTS AND DRAWING 3 I MIGHT COULD DIE

Current schedule: Retcon and DR will take turns (DR will slow slightly)

Koror will continue unrelated to the other two (generally drawn as soon as written)

The ask blog will remain dead until I catch up on other patreon obligations, which might take a bit. Will try to get it going again sometime in december but no promises.
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No. 105523 ID: 91ee5f

>I MIGHT COULD DIE
Just so you know, I've still got my defibrillator. So if you die, then I'm going to be there to bring you back to life.....again!

CLEAR!!!
*BZZZZZT!!!*

Seriously though, don't die please. <:'-(
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No. 105527 ID: 395c02

>>105523
It... might be fine? Really it's 2.5, since Typo colors Koror (with some minor exceptions)

Then again, this latest DR update took as long to do as a Slissa Quest update used to...

...it's probably fine
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No. 105658 ID: 395c02

I've been rereading the venji quests to remember wtf was going on and to remind myself of venji's story, since it had been a while and I never write things down.

And... I'm a bit less sure what I want to do with Retcon.

I could cut most of what retcon originally wanted to do, meaning we only really "retcon" AU-Tezakia before hitting the end plot. This lets it end this year, and I can spend next year doing SQ and DR only.

Or, I could keep the original intended length, split Retcon into 2 (...maybe 3...) threads, and then do the second thread after running SQ thread 2.

If you'd like to give your opinion, you can say things here and/or vote in this strawpoll. This isn't a binding vote, but I'll take the results into consideration.

How long should Retcon Quest run?
http://www.strawpoll.me/11677449

I should note that while Captain Venji was designed to be "episodic", meaning I could just do them forever, I'm not sure I actually want to. There's a very good chance Retcon is the final Venji.
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No. 105661 ID: 398fe1

>>105658
Ummmmm, what was the original plan, again?
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No. 105663 ID: 395c02

>>105661
Retcon was originally meant to go through 3 quests, of which AU-TeQ is the first.

The vote is mostly... does Venji still bother doing the other 2 quests? (what quests she does will depend on what people suggest later)
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No. 105698 ID: 3abd97

It sort of feels like the retcon of this particular quest will be over as soon as this fight wraps up? And the quest just came back. It feels silly to close things so close after resurrecting the quest.

Especially since that doesn't leave any room to do stuff with Venji's crew in between missions, and I feel like they deserve some kind of resolution (or what passes for development is a silly quest), even if they are a bunch of crossovers and one evil clones. Especially if this is gonna be the last captain Venji thing- gotta do a proper sendoff.

...and tbh I wouldn't mind seeing a quest I actually remembered being retconned. Only doing one is less fun.
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No. 105768 ID: 395c02

Updates will pause at least on the 24th (US THANKSGIVING) and 25 (MY BIRFDAY) this week, and might be slowed in general until next week depending on busy-ness.

As for Venji... looking at the strawpoll and what folks have been saying... even though Venji is made of things that are not my creation, she has been a part of SlinkoQuests since 2010, and is as much a part of me as Tezakia or Dragon Romance. Maybe she does deserve to see her story through.
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No. 105885 ID: ffb773

happy birfday!!
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No. 105886 ID: ffb773

well early birthday anyway
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No. 105887 ID: 395c02

>>105885
Pre-emptive thanks~

SECRET SANTA STRAWPOLL http://www.strawpoll.me/11706557
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No. 105916 ID: 9603f8

Happy CURRENT birfday, Slinko!!!!
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No. 105917 ID: 8ef504

>>105916
This!
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No. 105918 ID: 2169b1

Happy Birthday!

*confetti falls from the ceiling*
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No. 105919 ID: 47160d

Happy birthday, here is to another year of wonderful questing!
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No. 105920 ID: 395c02
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105920

Y-you guys!

You warmed my heart so much I forgot to deny Chei's my fursona again!



The tentative plan is Koror on monday, DR on tuesday, then retcon and DR take turns from there with Korors as they are written.

In December, I will be doing a final update around the 22nd (give or take 1 day), then I'll be resting and holiday-ing until 2017, likely resuming January 5th

I hope to finish this thread of Retcon by then with the end of the Tezakia arc. Since I'm going ahead and doing the full quest, thread 1 will end earlier, and thread 2 will contain more fun retcon shenanigans.

Once retcon thread one is done, DR will update alone (well, with Koror) for about a month.

After that... Slissas.
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No. 105921 ID: ca0e20

Wow, how did I miss that one post when you said when your birthday was?! D=

Anyway, totally unrelated reason: What's your top 3 characters of yours?
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No. 105930 ID: 0198a0

>>105920
Is there another bow somewhere else?
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No. 105931 ID: 395c02
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105931

>>105921
oh geez picking favorites... they're all my children!

I'll just make three tiny lists. And include a huge reference image that took 3 hours to put together.

For no reason~


Most enjoyable to write
Jiniki (a child)
The Creator
Captain Venji

Most enjoyable to draw
The Creator
Jiniki
Sekani

Sexiest (to me)
Ceridwen
Amiel (Normal)
Nokizanya

....

Best character ever oh god please don't beat me up
Tayza
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No. 105932 ID: 395c02

>>105930
Don't worry about it.
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No. 105933 ID: 2169b1

>>105932
Well now I'm just gonna worry about it more!
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No. 105934 ID: 57463b

Happy Birthday! (I haven't gone to sleep since the 25th so it still counts, right???)
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No. 105935 ID: c57f6b

Happy belated Birthday, Slinko!
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No. 105936 ID: c57f6b

Happy belated Birthday, Slinko!
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No. 105940 ID: a0cb83

I missed it but my intent is the same otherwise

HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY!
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No. 105941 ID: ca0e20
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105941

I hope that last line wasn't an in-joke I didn't get.

In any case, here's a probably non-canon Tayza cause it's a been months since I read Tezakian Quest! I vaguely remember how she acted and I dunno if she cares or are aware about whoever came up with her! But here she is congratulating another person! Totally in character right?

Late Happy Birthday dude! =3
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No. 105943 ID: 56ffef

sorry I missed it slinko happy birthday.
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No. 105944 ID: 0198a0

oh yeah also happy one step closer to being able to yell at kids to get of your lawn without people thinking you're an asshole
day
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No. 105948 ID: 395c02

>>105941
oh goodness!!!

i was making a dumb joke that tayza glared at me and made me give her her own catagory where she's just the best ever

also: YOU READ TEZAKIA QUEST THAT MEANS WE'RE FRIENDS NOW
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No. 105951 ID: ca0e20

>>105948
Well maybe I'll draw another character later then, haha. =P
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No. 106005 ID: 395c02
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106005

As some may have noticed, my Patreon is 9 bux away from the "make game" tier.

That's close enough for me to actually consider Game Make.

The most likely candidate for this is Slissawar, a failed Ludum Dare that would become a turn-based strategy game. The simplicity would make it decent enough to learn game maker, and a good chunk of assets already exist.

This could be the learning game for a larger game with Tezakians vs Lians (this one would be a little more 'advance wars' in design, with commander units and special powers). Kind of a reversal of what my quests did!

The biggest challenge would be the AI, since I don't know how to code an AI, but perhaps I won't be alone in that field...


There's also the charred remains of Slissabot, but that game would require a lot more work and doesn't seem fitting for this early on. It's a metroidvania, and it's hard to do that without just being metroid. Its basic concepts of relying on very finite resources (and thus limited amount of time exploring) and possible base-building is all fine and dandy on paper, but we're talking thousands of man-hours to make a map worth exploring, and a ton of difficulty making that all be fun and not tedious or annoying.

It'd have a cute slissa robot and a cute ketza robot, though. And a hug button. So maybe one day.

there will never be a beyond lunch 2
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No. 106023 ID: 188451

>beyond lunch
Oh man, I forgot that even existed for a while. Gonna have to find that vid of you playing it again.

>turn based strategy
So any ideas worked out on how unit types would play different from each other? It's important to make it to where you have an army, and not just 10 of a single unit type because they are 'da best'. Fire Emblem had the sword/axe/lance and magic circles while advanced war had something for armor/infantry, and something in place to specifically affect mobility based off terrain and subtype of units. (tires vs treads, vs foot, vs helicoptor, for multiple terrain types.)
As for the AI, while it always needs a base level of competence, you kinda want to question what to program into it for what it targets. Factor in type advantage?(go for the archer with a knife?) Health of units in range?(go for the dude with 1 hp vs the full health tank?) Positioning if it has any type of terrain.(Stop on a forest for better defense? would it even factor in positioning for situations that would come about after it attacks like enemy team placement? Prob not) Also, will crits be a thing? Misses? (fire emblem has both while advanced wars has neither) Do attacks happen simultaneously? First strike to attackers? Only attackers get a hit in? Would each side go all at once, or go staggered based on speed or something? There's also a lot of balance shit for a strategy game. Not trying to psych you out. There's not really a wrong way to do it, but it is possible for it to feel janky depending on how it lines up.
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No. 106024 ID: 398fe1

>>106005
>and it's hard to do that without just being metroid.
That isn't a problem. Most of the good metroidvanias very strongly parallel Metroid anyway.
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No. 106028 ID: 91ee5f

>there will never be a beyond lunch 2
As soon as I read that, I went looking for the first one because I wanted to see what I could find. And then I found this website: http://editthis.info/slinkiwiki/

For some reason, I feel like you don't want any of this to see the light of day.
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No. 106029 ID: 395c02
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106029

>>106028
URGE TO ABUSE POST EDITING POWERS RISING

WHY WOULD YOU LINK THAT OH MY GOD
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No. 106030 ID: 141621

>>106029
Now now, doing that just gets you slapped with the Streisand effect. :P
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No. 106032 ID: 3abd97

>browses edit history in dead slinko wiki
Geeze, the last actual content edit was back in... 2008. Then the spambots take over for a while, but even they just give up in 2013.

It died, got up and walked around as a zombie for a few years, and then dropped dead again.
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No. 106033 ID: 91ee5f

>>106029
AHA!!!!! I was right, this is something you didn't want to see the light of day!

And, hey! It's not my fault I got curious when I wanted to see if there really was Beyond Lunch 1!

It's your fault for mentioning it to me and making me curious!

I could delete that post if it'll make you feel better. Buuuuut it's too late to do that because who knows how many people have clicked that link by now? So we might as well just leave it up and look at the hidden history of Slink O. Boy (AKA Our Hero)!
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No. 106036 ID: 395c02

>>106030
aaaaaaaa

>>106033
IT'S TOO LATE NOW MIGHT AS WELL LET THEM SEE IT

>>106032
The wiki is about a year before Tezakia Quest (and before the Ralier Story aka "Hero of Ralier" was nixed and its world reimagined into the Slissa world)

IT'S EMBARRASSING BUT I GUESS YOU GUYS CAN GO LOOK AND SEE WHAT DUMB STUFF I DID BEFORE TEZAKIA I'M GONNA GO DIE IN A CORNER NOW

ALSO I MIGHT STREAM BL AGAIN FOR A MODERN AUDIENCE I DUNNO YET
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No. 106037 ID: 4854ef

*See's a comic with Miss Mab* Wha.
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No. 106038 ID: 395c02

>>106037
She and I were friends for a time, before eventually going separate ways
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No. 106042 ID: 91ee5f

>>106036
It's not dumb! It's just old!

It's like going through a museum and seeing what made you who you are now! It's very educational! ^_^

I've mentioned before, that reading Tezakia Quest on FA is what got me into questing and the only reason I found TGchan, so I'm honestly really enjoying learning about what you did before you started doing quests! Although, I still feel bad about bringing up a bunch of things you didn't want to be brought up.....sorry! Please don't hate me! DX
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No. 106044 ID: 188451

I wish I could see some of these comics instead of just reading about them on the wiki. My google-fu is too weak though.
It's weird to think that stuff we did as teens/kids is gonna be online *forever*.(slinko, imagine your 12 year old son or daughter finding beyond lunch. Or anyone related to Lagotrope finding his Boat-o-Cross stuff) Eventually the future presidential candidates are gonna have videos from their childhood be available to the public, and kids can see the same for their parents/grandparents lives.
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No. 106047 ID: 395c02
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106047

>>106044
Most of my early stuff actually isn't online anymore, since we're talking 1998-99. Kids nowadays are in for a rough time though.

While it's all very cringey and embarrassing, maybe there is some historical value to my oldest stuff. On this post is the oldest thing I still have: a Sonic Comic I drew in 1997. Ah, the innocence of youth.

As for DTMIRC and CHIBI... someone did archive them.

I will link it i guess, but I provide this disclaimer: this was 2000-2002. I'm not the same person anymore. The comics also rely heavily on injokes that you aren't likely to get. Speaking of which, I didn't really do "punchlines" back then. The... comedy? of these things relied more on absurd situations than actual jokes.

But, perhaps, you can see the budding of my modern methods.

Use the folders on the left to read each series.

Chronological reading order:
CHIBI
MAB CHIBI SHORT (technically ran alongside early CHIBI)
DTMIRC
DTMIRC ODDNESS
STARSHIP INTENSITY
SKETCHERS (ironically a kind of nice ending to it all)

This was a full 9 years before I started Tezakia Quest.

I MAKE NO PROMISES THAT YOU WILL FIND ANY OF THIS REMOTELY ENTERTAINING

http://dtmirc.deviantart.com/gallery/
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No. 106109 ID: 395c02
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106109

I WILL NOW DISTRACT YOU WITH THIS

Nearly two years ago I began work on this image, to be used in a generic "TALK ABOUT OLD QUESTS HERE" thread. It was going to have three rows, and feature nearly every major quest up to Tezakia (because obviously).

If you are looking at Koror and going "golly! if you drink a lot and close both eyes, koror almost kind of sort of maybe looks like lago drew it!" then i guess the reason for that is i've had practice mimicing styles since at least Venji Quest :X

(todo: draw slinko style koror)
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No. 106111 ID: 71d443

http://editthis.info/slinkiwiki/Kill_Barney
...wow. I knew guy who made a game by the same name - several, actually - except it was in tabletop boardgame format. It was a platforming game, too. And he kept them at school... it was very weird, but looked very cool. For a grade schooler, at least.
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No. 106113 ID: b7883c

>>106111
I think a lot of kids go through a "show how grownup I am by being an edgelord about Barney" phase.
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No. 106115 ID: 141621
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106115

>>106113
some adults too!
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No. 106135 ID: f0e552

>>106109
You need to use your powers to draw more things in the mudy quest style. Also, try replicating trout's style! I bet it would look cool!
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No. 106136 ID: f0e552

>>106109
You need to use your powers to draw more things in the mudy quest style. Also, try replicating trout's style! I bet it would look cool!
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No. 106148 ID: 188451

>>106115
Oh shit, jagged alliance. I loved that game.

Also
>>106135
I agree with the Mudy thing. He looks really cute.
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No. 106180 ID: 395c02
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106180

>>106136
I don't so much mimic Trout as I hack his computer and find his secret stash of things he claims to hate but totally draws

Like this fuzzbold!

Totally drawn by Trout. And not me.

As for Mudy, drawing as well as Reavz would certainly be nice, but it's not within my capabilities. Certainly not at the speeds required for quest updates.

That's kind of the issue in general. If I use a softer pen and go slower, I can come kinda? close to some better artists, but the time required is way too high. Heck, SQ almost failed and that was my normal style!

I need to get back to improving, but a larger chunk of my work lately is drawing faster, not better. If I can approach 1/2 lagospeed I'd be good for life.
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No. 106181 ID: 395c02
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106181

i also found this i forget what it was for tho
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No. 106183 ID: bfb318

>>106181
It was probably just for fun, as it was an old (late 2011/early 2012?) thread in which empty boxes were supplied, and people would mimic the styles of the given quest authors for no other reason than practice and it's own sake.
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No. 106184 ID: 91ee5f

>>106180
Wait a minute, wait a minute! You know how to hack?! O_o
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No. 106187 ID: ba506f

I miss blue wine
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No. 106394 ID: 395c02

I'm getting extremely worn out updating 3 quests at once... but I really want both venji and DR to end their threads by the 22nd

Art will suffer as a result, sorry :<
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No. 106395 ID: 398fe1

>>106394
It's ok. Speed is more important than quality.
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No. 106399 ID: 91ee5f

>>106394
>I'm getting extremely worn out updating 3 quests at once...
.....this just makes me wonder how Lagotrope does it and makes it look easy.
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No. 106400 ID: 0cb7aa

>>106399
And lets not forget all the porn.
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No. 106413 ID: 595d54

>>106399
At this point I think it's his actual job, given Patreon. So, that plus years of practice, probably.
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No. 106416 ID: 4854ef

>>106413
Likely helps that he's refined his drawing skills, taking a look from his earlier stuff to later and you can straight away tell it's his, that and he doesn't do too many details on a character at once usually.
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No. 106425 ID: 395c02

>>106395
i-i thought it was the other way around !!

>LAGOTROPE
From what I understand, he spent years and years learning 2 fast

I've been spending the time making my art passable, and am only now making an effort to focus on fast. I'm sonic 1 levels of fast (not very fast)
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No. 106561 ID: 395c02
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106561

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No. 106582 ID: ca0e20

>>106561
It's good practice. =3
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No. 106626 ID: cf8ee7

>>106425
Quality is definitely more important, both in the writing and in the art. Speed is impressive, but less important than quality, and you definitely shouldn't sacrifice quality for speed.

Don't worry about the speed; DR moves plenty fast enough. If you're feeling overwhelmed by running multiple quests at once, just put one or two on hold for a bit and focus on one. Running multiple quests at once seems like a good way to wear yourself out.
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No. 106627 ID: 395c02

>>106626
Moreso in writing than in drawing. Let's not forget that Ruby Quest itself was pretty much just stick figures, and for the longest time it was the greatness everyone else strived for.

And Slissa Quest will forever remind me that if I strive for Max Quality in art, I will just burn out and the quest will falter.

For quests, it needs to look as good as you can manage without taking entire chunks of your day to create.

The writing will try not to falter in Dragon Romance or Retcon, but there's a pretty hard time limit if I want to take the rest of the year off and recover.
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No. 106689 ID: 395c02

So, uh. Retcon Quest went in a direction I wasn't originally planning for even a little bit, but a direction I kinda want to explore in more detail than I'd be able to do before my "break"???

Because of that, and because my stress levels are at "eye twitching for real in real life" levels, I'm going to be mean and pause retcon quest on this cliffhanger.

Retcon will finish next year, then I will do DR (and koror) alone for a month after whenever it finishes, and then Slissa quest???

Dragon Romance is on track to end the thread in time, so it'll continue to thread-end over the next few days.
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No. 106692 ID: 595d54

>>106689
No worries man, you deserve to enjoy the quests and have happy holidays the same as anyone else. Merry Christmas and a happy New Year to you!
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No. 106725 ID: 2169b1

Guess who wrote a Dragon Romance fanfiction.

It is me.

http://pastebin.com/43igPJv2

Please lynch me gently.
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No. 106739 ID: 2169b1

Aaaand I have officially written part two! http://pastebin.com/LF1Ju1iR
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No. 106746 ID: 85abd8

Speaking of happy holidays... Do you have a way of accept one-time donations/tips?

I know you have a Patreon, but I unfortunately do not have a steady income to pay monthly; but I'd still like to give what I can!
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No. 106760 ID: cf8ee7

>>106746
You could sign up for Patreon, let it pay out once, and then cancel.
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No. 106766 ID: 395c02

>>106746
o-oh gosh um

w-well I have a paypal which is... gosh how do you say it in a way that won't get spam

it's the name on this post at gmail.com ???
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No. 106784 ID: 85abd8

>>106760
Goodness, I'd feel bad breaking my pledge as soon as I made it! Thanks for your idea though!

>>106766
Quick, everybody spam NeoSlinkoquestdisthread!@gmail.com ;>

Hehe just kidding, thank you! I'll send it to your actual email; Merry December-Festive-Celebration-Day(s)!
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No. 106787 ID: 85abd8

2 hours of totally not making a new Paypal account and struggling with the awkward medium of communication known as ENGLISH WRITING later...

I sure hope I sent it correctly!
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No. 106791 ID: 395c02

>>106787
Y-you did! oh gosh...!

T-thank you very much~!
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No. 106836 ID: 395c02
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106836

Turns out I made the right choice. Pausing Retcon let me catch my breath, which let me draw the final DR of the year at a better quality than I had been.

With that, I'm signing out until January 9th (sort of. Koror will continue as Typo writes them, and I may yet do THE GREAT FAN-ARTING if I recover enough~).

Happy holidays~!
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No. 106837 ID: a0cb83

Have a good holiday slink!
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No. 106838 ID: ef6709

Okay, so Ceri is losing her mind due to dragonic influence. We went a bit too loosey-goosey with the D stuff and now we're paying the price. We need to find out exactly what's happening, if it can be reversed or healed or countered, and most importantly DIAL BACK ON THE LEWDS before Ceri goes completely off her rocker. I know that's anathema to some, but I think a bit of restraint and focus could pay out dividends in the long run so that we could continue having a healthy sex life without going INSANE.

I personally suggest trying to find some method of relaxation, focus, and general zen, ala what meditation is said to do. Not self-taught, I mean- by someone who's legit in the art. Some method to dial down our horniness near at-will, even if it takes some time out of the day.

It's been fun, but let's make sure Ceridwen doesn't lose herself to this, okay?
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No. 106841 ID: 374706

From Bad Dragon to Mad Dragon.
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No. 106842 ID: 49978d

>>106838

I think further experimentation is in order. It may not be that Ceri's lust is actually causing these problems, but rather that they're a symptom of something else. It may even be that her sexual shenanigans are an outlet for something that would otherwise cause more damage, and her body is pushing the sex stuff hard on her to try mitigate it as much as possible. Her body learned to use her boobs as an outlet for her dragon magic, already; maybe when she had sex for the first time, her body went "hey, another way to vent magic!" and started pushing for more that way, and this recent problem is a result of her trying out all her new magic and D-bursting and so on during this recent adventure. Maybe dragon coming-of-age requires some special sex thing that she's not getting, so she's finding herself gorging on sex in general to make up the difference. Perhaps the "something wrong" is that she's still actually not getting enough sex! When something is wrong with your body, behavioral compulsions are often a result of your body trying to fix itself or mitigate the damage. It can be bad to scratch an itch if scratching's not going to make it go away, but most itches are caused by something that scratching will genuinely get rid of! So abstaining from sex may actually make Ceri's problem, whatever it is, worse.

I'm not saying I'm arguing for any of those to be true, I'm just saying that it's dangerous to make assumptions about what's causing a problem. The world is complicated and the immediately obvious answer or common-sense solution isn't necessarily the right one. We need to be scientific about this, and experiment.

So, one, yes, celibacy for a while to see if it does anything, good or bad. However, for the sake of Skif's poor blue internal balls, we should explore other possibilities first. For example, Ceri should try isolating herself from other stimuli and do a bunch of shapeshifting, especially switching around between her different "natural" forms, and see if it tilts her tilde. Another possibility is that the damage was caused by her tilde reaching high levels and then being held in for a long time, so she should try that, too.

There are probably other possibilities, too. We should explore all of them!
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No. 106849 ID: fe7355

>>106842
It's also possible that the level of "crazy" Mr. Ilan was thinking of when he said "try not to do anything crazy" in regards to Ceri using her magic was lower than we thought. That the level of magic Ceri was using before getting to the submersed ship was enough to cause her dragon side to leak and drive her lust up. And then she tried to use magic in a anti-magic field, which may have damaged the seal, followed by a D-Burst and using major magic in the same field to force its effect through. I'll note here the last time we saw her stat screen before the end of the thread was when she D-Burst and the crack in the seal wasn't there yet. I'm thinking that straining her magic so hard against the anti-magic field while in a D-Burst started to cause the seal to crack. And because of that it let Ceri's dragon side seep out more and drove her lust much higher, warping her judgment and resulting in all the sexual shenanigans on the beach.
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No. 106865 ID: b1b4f3

Well forcing her polymorph through the antimagic field certainly would count as crazy.
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No. 106871 ID: ef6709

>>106842
On one level, I agree with you.

On another, I REALLY REALLY hate the idea of what's risked if it turns out these experiments fail. We know on a certain level no sex does avoid something- it's honestly the 'safest' experiment to do first, since it's easy to cease if it turns out incorrect- faster to go from not-banging to banging a lot than to go from banging a lot to not banging for a while. One can be ramped up to very quick with the right motivation, while the other can only be done through plain patience and waiting.

I'm not worried about Skif in that really, if he can't restrain his urges, that just speaks of a primitive mind- I'd think the guy is better than that, really.
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No. 106885 ID: fe7355

Speaking of Skif, Ceri and him are going to have to talk about what happened, Ceri's worries and what she was thinking and feeling then, and really probe him on how much he actually wanted to go along with her desires there. If he's going along with Ceri's wishes just or mostly 'cause he doesn't want to lose her and that he actually doesn't like it, or something similarly bad, then Ceri's going to have to rein it in. Really talk with him about what he wants.

Personally, I'd rather this quest be "Dragon Romance" and not become "Dragon Rampant Promiscuity." While the sex scenes and winding Ceri's ~ up are fun, it's a fleeting fun that forgets Ceri does have more beyond that and that there are consequences. And I'd rather work to have a personal connection between her and another character first, since it much more fulfilling if and when they do get it on.
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No. 106892 ID: 021efd

Merry Giftmas slinko! I hope you enjoy your non-denominational winter gift-giving holiday! Same to all the other posters too, have a good whatever-the-fuck! (Giant smiles all around man)
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No. 106935 ID: cf8ee7

>>106885
This. Let's not just steamroll every other quest character into lewd just because we can't keep our ~ in our pants (perhaps because said pants keep disappearing).
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No. 106957 ID: c78274
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106957

Have a Dragon Romance meme
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No. 106987 ID: df6309

Varying degrees of want?
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No. 107319 ID: 395c02
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107319

>when /quest/ keeps making you think lewd thoughts about pygmies
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No. 107320 ID: 595d54

>>107319
So that's his fap hand?
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No. 107474 ID: 395c02
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107474

So, thread 4 is around the corner, and the current plan is for it to take all the groundwork I laid out and actually set up the Main Plot. how exciting! It only took over 500 images!

In the mean time, since a couple people were wondering, and so I have a reference... here's how tall everyone is!

Included is a chart I made for power levels, which I will eventually repurpose as a height chart. The art is kinda old, although I redrew sekani for fun~

It's so old we have non-captain Venji!

Anyway, numbers! I grew up in america so i can't promise the cm is even kinda correct but i tried.

----------------------------------------------------

Tezakia
Sekani: 5'9" (~175cm), ignoring headfeathers
Amiel (Original): 5'6" (~167cm), ignoring spikes
Amiel (Current): 6'3" (~191cm)
Dilia: 6'10" (~208cm), ignoring horns
Tayza: 6'4" (~194cm)
Shela: 4'5" (~141cm), ignoring antennae
Jiniki: 2'10" (~86cm)
Kinasa: 5'8" (~173cm)
Delkin, the character everyone loves: 6'2" (~188cm)
Grasshopper: 8' (~244cm)


Dragon Romance
Ceridwen: 5'10" (~178cm), ignoring fins and horns
Skif: 6'1" (~185cm)
Gulketi (ketza): 3'6" (~107cm), ignoring headfluff
Gulketi (amtsvane): 41' (~1250cm)
Siphon: 3'6" (~107cm)
Eezeryh: 5'8" (~173cm), can stretch to ~8'
Myra: 6' (~183cm)
Sheriim: 6'1" (~185cm), ignoring fin
Daatra: 6'5"


Venjiverse
Venji: 5'9" (~175cm), ignoring AMAZING BIRBNESS
Ijnev: also 5'9". Shocking.
Bird-Roz: 3" (~8cm)
Ketza-Roz: 3'1" (~93cm)
Ashela, 4'7" (~140cm), on all fours
Titzi: 4' long (~122cm), or 1' tall (~30cm)
Mantis: 3'11" (~119cm)
Selis (Original): 2'2" (~67cm), 3' (~91cm) long
Betsy: 21' (640cm)
Scalene: [error]


All the rest
Kliss: 1'7" (~48cm), when standing
Tyrsis: 2'5" (~76cm)
Chei: 2'10" (~86cm)
Nishalm: 5'3" (160cm)
Nokizanya: 12'2" (371cm)

And that's all the important and semi-important characters I can think of!
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No. 107475 ID: ca0e20

>>107474
Also here's a thing that can be neat for some characters.

http://www.mrinitialman.com/OddsEnds/Sizes/sizes.html
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No. 107488 ID: 395c02

>>107475
kliss vs nokizanya is something i now have to draw at some point
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No. 107587 ID: cf8ee7

>>107474
That's height, but what about weight, or...other important measurements?
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No. 107591 ID: 395c02

>>107587
Weight would be too difficult for me to do. People would either be way too heavy or way too light for their size and build, because I have no idea what good weights are for fantasy animal-people.
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No. 107592 ID: ca0e20

>>107591
I never understood why weight was considered a detail that needs to be known about fictional characters. Side effect from modern society? Anyway, weight is like a bonus a writer can go for if they think mass is fascinating in a scientific way, if that exist. Otherwise, it's kinda pointless.
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No. 107594 ID: 395c02

>>107592
I mean, it's not totally irrelevant or anything, but it's definitely harder to give a plausible number on. I have no idea what an amtsvane should weigh, for example (beyond "a lot").
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No. 107595 ID: ca0e20

>>107594
Well that's what I would mean really. You only need to know that certain characters weighs more than other, but an actual number doesn't really add much. And generally, it's easy to tell if a character is heavy or light by how they look. Either by how big they are or if they wear armor or carrying stuff, etc.

Height is a more concrete thing that people can, at the very least, get a measuring tape and see how tall a character is compared to them. Unless it's a giant. But that's where the site I link can help I guess.

For weight, I feel like there's too many variable considering things like muscle, fat, bones, horns antlers, claws, wings, whatever. It's better to keep it simple and not really needed when listing details about a character. Unless it's odd, like "this giant weighs about the same as the average dog" even though they don't look it. A giant made of light, for example, wouldn't need that description.
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No. 107647 ID: 395c02

I spent the past 7 years trying my best to guess what works and what doesn't in my quests, with varying levels of success. But it was always something I tried to figure out alone.

For 7 years I fought an uphill battle to make something great, and instead I've pretty much always been a mid-tier author.

This year, 2017, I want to change that. I want to finally figure out what I'm missing-- what areas I'm too weak in. I want to make Slissa Quest deserve a place among every quest you think of when asked what quests you like. But I'm starting to realize I can't do that if I never actually ask others for their thoughts and opinions.

So, if there are things you think I'm missing, or areas you feel I should focus on improving, this is the time and place to lay it on me. It'd also be helpful to know if there's aspects of my quests you do like, things I should maybe focus on more deeply! If you were reading any of my quests but stopped, this is also your chance to tell me where I lost you.

Are my quests too bombastic? Not enough just folks hanging out and chilling? More boobs? less boobs? less silly faces?

THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO BE HEARD!

but please don't just say "x sucks" because that's legitimately useless
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No. 107650 ID: 79a07e

>>107647

I think your quests are alright, but I've noticed you seem to have a common QM 'thing' where you reel people in with funny and feel-goods, and then suddenly launch a massive drama-bomb on them after some time later. It's not necessarily a bad thing, but like I said, it's a common thing; one that I'm kinda tired of. I'd love for a non-oneshot quest to start relatively light-hearted and end light-hearted for once. Some drama and action is fine to spice things up once in a while, but IMO there shouldn't be a total paradigm shift like there always is.
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No. 107651 ID: ca0e20

>>107650
That problem with that is that light-hearted stories tends to be forgotten pretty quickly, in any format. I'm not saying that a light-hearted story is bad either, but anyone who would think about meaningful stories that are remembered, there's usually high stakes, drama and reveals that makes people think about the story.

The approach of starting light-hearted and becoming more serious later is more of an attempt to have some nice "free" time with the characters to allow the audience to care about said characters before you put them in drama or peril, so that the audience actually cares about what is going on. Making an audience care about the characters fast enough to establish a drama/dangerous/dark tone early, can be very tricky and, I would say, is something the greatest writers with abundant trust in themselves can pull off.

If the aim is become a better writer, I have a hard time believing that focusing on lighter story would necessarily do that. Having said that, I wouldn't mind seeing Slinko make a story like that if they have the time/idea for it.

>>107647
Lol, I might have to think on this actually. Mostly cause I think others might give you better advice, but also cause if I decide to get into it, I almost should write it in notepad first to make sure I find a way to express my criticisms in a "good enough" manner before I try to relay it to you. Cause I've been trying to read some of your older stuff and I definitely noticed stuff you do extremely well but a lot of common "Slinko tropes" that I think might not be completely needed. Well, not needed in a more "Serious" story. Not serious in tone, but serious in attempt... See this is what I mean, haha.

But I'd have to re-read Slissa quest to see how it holds up since I think Slissa is actually the first thing I read from you. So I forget some details.
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No. 107655 ID: 395c02

>>107650
>That problem with that is that light-hearted stories tends to be forgotten pretty quickly, in any format.
Yup. You implied that one-shots don't count, but a single thread is about as long as I could see a pure comedy no-stakes quest staying interesting, and those quests don't tend to get that much attention.

I'm not trying to dismiss what you're saying, though. I definitely will make a stronger effort to keep the light quests light as a whole. I think part of the problem is that DR and Retcon entered srs moments at roughly the same time, combined with high stress from The Great Crunch, but I'll definitely try to make sure both quests maintain a "light" feeling as a whole.

>I wouldn't mind seeing Slinko make a story like that if they have the time/idea for it.
I've done both pure comedy quests (Tezakian Holiday, Boatface Adventures) and one instance of a pure serious quest (The Creator)

It sounds like where I'm struggling are the quests that try to be a mix of the two. Hmm...

>"Slinko tropes"
I so wish this was me turning into Lagotrope. Ah, to update so many times in so short a time-frame~

But I'm very curious to hear about these tropes. Having something concrete I can look at and go "maybe don't this so much" would be very helpful in my attempts to improve.
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No. 107657 ID: ca0e20

>>107655
Ah yeah, I guess I, so far, mostly read the more "series" quests of yours. Boatface is on my to-read list since I wanted to read whatever pre-retcons were. And VenjiQuest would probably be talked about once I talk about Slinko-tropes, cause I couldn't help comparing it to Tezakian Quest. Also slumber party won't be talked about cause I didn't like it purely on personal opinion reasons that won't help you if I say what it is. Then I got side tracked by the major complete quest list again and Static on the Wire.

For now though, I'd say that your strongest stuff came from Tezakian Quest and Jiniki's Journey.

I dunno what the format of what I would write would take, guess it depends on how long it is. I dunno that I would want to write something super long and then post it here on the disthread to get in the way. But there's probably places on the Internet people can post text and I'll post it there and link it here. If it's short, I just post it here. But I sometimes ramble and get into too much detail so I expect it to be long if I am to look at most of your stuff to give feedback, heheh. I guess we'll see once I start.
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No. 107659 ID: 395c02

>Also slumber party won't be talked about cause I didn't like it purely on personal opinion reasons that won't help you if I say what it is.

w-well now i'm curious!!!
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No. 107660 ID: ca0e20

>>107659
If I'd ever tell you, it would be in private cause it's a really dumb reason, lol. And now that I think about it, I don't even know if I ever told anyone about that opinion really, cause it's a very unpopular opinion. So I dunno *shrug* =P
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No. 107662 ID: 395c02

>>107660
Dang...

Well, I'll await this mega post of yours~
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No. 107684 ID: 4854ef

The Siphon AI ASCII graphics are just straight up adorable.
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No. 107697 ID: 91ee5f

>>107655
>I so wish this was me turning into Lagotrope. Ah, to update so many times in so short a time-frame~
No, silly! "Slinkotrope" is you and Lagotrope fusing DBZ style! Or would it be "Lagoboy"?

FUUUUU...SION!!! HA!!!
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No. 107703 ID: 395c02

>>107697
I'd try it, but he's semi-permanently fused with Lawyerdog.
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No. 107711 ID: 91ee5f

>>107703
Wait, what?! Where did they get the Potara Earrings to do that?! O_o
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No. 107714 ID: ba506f

>>107703
I thought it was lawyerdog and trout who were fused seeing as last I heard they were roommates.
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No. 107715 ID: 395c02

>>107714
All three are roommates now!

They need to fuse and make the ultimate lagotroutdog quest
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No. 107724 ID: 91ee5f

>>107715
When did they become a Cerberus?! O_o
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No. 107729 ID: 8e2896
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107729

It's all part of the plan to eventually have as many authors as possible fuse into one ultimate artist!
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No. 107892 ID: 395c02

That last update took ~6 hours to make (part of which includes drawing a map, realizing you can't tell wtf anything is, and then scrapping it for a color version. making that map was like 2 hours in itself >:C )

So Koror tomorrow, DR sunday, rather than scrambling to do both tomorrow because i'm dying here
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No. 107974 ID: 395c02
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107974

I'll be collecting ideas for mixed-magic spells until a certain point later in the thread, so feel free to keep suggesting anything you come up with. I'll be writing them down!

The vote system in Dragon Romance was meant to do two things: Make suggesting easier for you, and make keeping track of them easier for me.

But in the weakly-performing thread 4, we had 32 suggestions on a post which allowed freeform suggesting, and it wasn't as hard as I thought to go through them. This is making me rethink things!

Maybe I don't actually need voting so much, now that things are more complex and we're not doing chargen so much?

I wanna know what you think. I'll do one of my many strawpolls for convenience.

Should I Use votes constantly? This means most posts will end in votes, except those asking for dialog or where the "answer" isn't obvious/would be too obvious. (aka the current method)

Or should I Use votes sparingly? Make updates free-form, and using votes mostly when deciding things with obvious branches (like which stat to train, etc)

Please choose your preference here: http://www.strawpoll.me/12180687

You can also let me know what you think in this thread~
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No. 107975 ID: ac2124

>>107974
Slink taking a vote on how to take votes.....
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No. 107976 ID: 395c02

>>107975
I AM AWARE OF THE IRONY.
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No. 107979 ID: 30fb5a

>>107975
Yo dawg, I heard you like votes, so we're voting on how we vote so we can choose how we choose.
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No. 107982 ID: dd4df2

>>107974

I like being able to give additional inputs above and beyond the votes, but I also feel like having something to vote on every time gives the thread a sense of direction when it might otherwise slow down or end with confusion.
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No. 107983 ID: dd4df2

Oh, by the way, it's a week or so late, but congratulations on Dragon Romance's first anniversary!
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No. 107984 ID: 395c02

>>107982
It will likely still have guided paths, things in bold to consider, as seen in recent updates, just less of a strict "these 3-5 options are it" system

>>107983
w-wait what
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No. 107988 ID: 696fed

>>107984
what ever happened to the ask tumblr SLINKO
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No. 107990 ID: 3abd97

>>107974
No fair I can't write in a write in about being able to write in write ins.

(Where's the indifferent / you don't need to change from how you've been doing things option).
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No. 107991 ID: 395c02

>>107988
I literally just updated it!

>>107990
The second option is the "keep things as they are" option.
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No. 108019 ID: 398fe1

>>107991
>second option is what's happening right now
But the first option is labeled as "aka the current method"?
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No. 108020 ID: a22ee8

Believe it or not, the fanfiction I've been writing isn't dead. I've simply been really busy. Expect Part 3 some time next week.
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No. 108021 ID: 395c02
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108021

>>108019
...whoops

Well, that confusion probably makes the strawpoll a bit less reliable, huh?

I think I will continue to generally have votes, but be less afraid to have "open" decision points when the time feels right for them.

>>108020
Oh man!!!!


And now it's time for a RANDOM FUN FACT!

Past me had pretty much screwed present me when it comes to eyelashes on female/cute characters.

For a very long time, I refused to draw them because it makes no sense (especially for non-humans) for females to randomly have them when males don't.

On principle, no eyelashes for anyone >:o

But nowadays I can appreciate the effect of making it a bit easier to look at something (like a slissa) and go "oh, that one's a girl. Neat." It also makes things generally cuter.

However, due to past-me's stubbornness, I forget to draw eyelashes 4 times out of 5 :X

This is fine for some quests, like Venji, where it legit doesn't matter.

But quests like DR and Slissa, where I may want to play up cuteness or femininity, they are... inconsistent. And now you know why!
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No. 108022 ID: 696fed

>>108021
well slinko we can tell venji is a girl because of her DULL PLUMAGE
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No. 108029 ID: 1d0e08

It's occured to me that this crazy "writing" thing isn't going as splendidly as I'd hoped. Make that ETA the week after next, with a slight chance of arriving next week.

I mean, not that anyone gives a shit about my bad writing and worse OCs but hey!
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No. 108033 ID: 395c02

quests are hard
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No. 108046 ID: 1d0e08

I will drag Ceridwen kicking and screaming into Safe, Sane and Consensual, Slinko, yoh hear me???

But yes, quests are hard.
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No. 108084 ID: 17f043

Oh my god, I found Dragon Romance the other day and I haven't been this invested in a smut-but-not-so-smut-but-still-pretty-smut story in a long, long time. Read the four threads in just a few hours.
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No. 108092 ID: 79a07e

>>108046
And I'll help!
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No. 108095 ID: 395c02

>>108084
Oh gosh !

I'm glad you've enjoyed it so far !
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No. 108115 ID: 17f043

Yes! As a matter of fact, it gave me a flash of inspiration to maybe make my own Quest in the future. I've actually been obsessed with refining the details of the world lore of that potential story for the last 12 hours.
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No. 108164 ID: 395c02

>>108115
Hurray! Go forth and create to your heart's desire! If you have any questions, lemme know~
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No. 108195 ID: 8cb228

Okay, so I've done a few posts about the square/cube law, and I totally think that we should instigate the scientist type has already written up some huge epic rant about how these powers (which totally aren't magic but these rubes call magic) seem to be uniquely useful for, if not violating the square-cube law, than mostly ignoring the negative ramifications that it has on something's biology. IE, most species, when made large, should probably be unable to move and have their body crush itself under it's own weight and also the blood should not manage to keep it conscious and so on and so forth, but these enlargement 'spells' seem to do something weird, like arbitrarily enforce the concept of a large creature on the rest of reality, without any changes on it's agility or endurance! And how 12 attempts to get these benefits into a robot all failed catastrophically Or other such inevitable (and hopefully hilarious) rants!
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No. 108320 ID: 395c02

MORE NEWS

I've revamped my patreon to allow more people to get artwork: https://www.patreon.com/Slinketza

Because of this, the last week of each month may begin to include a questing pause so I can spend that week working on patreons.

Speaking of quests, it turns out I really really don't like running more than one at a time. Writing and drawing Dragon Romance and drawing Koror takes up pretty much all the energy I have for such things.

As such, finishing Retcon Quest will require me to pause DR, which may happen after thread 4 ends. I don't expect Retcon to take that long, but I'd rather not have to juggle it and DR. The quality of both would suffer.

SQ's return is up in the air for now.
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No. 108329 ID: 398fe1

>>108320
Okay!
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No. 108505 ID: 395c02
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108505

To the person who posted "take its hand" while I was posting the update:

Man, how perfect would it have been if your post was very slightly earlier than it was, eh? :X
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No. 108506 ID: b15da4

>>108505
Next time, Gadget, next time!
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No. 108600 ID: 395c02

Typo got sick, which is why Koror hasn't updated in a bit. Since we're roomates, this means I may also get sick. Oh no!

I'll keep you posted on THE GREAT PLAGUE OF 2017
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No. 108602 ID: 398fe1

>>108600
Slinko why does it say the aquatic form option costs more MP? The form itself is free.
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No. 108603 ID: 395c02

>>108602
(not slinko but typo speaking)

Being in aquatic form is free; flying in aquatic form requires use of MP to get height because it's only really good at gliding. I think.
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No. 108605 ID: 395c02

>>108602
>>108603
Indeed, the MP cost is making several large portals to gain the height required.

Sorry it wasn't clear!
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No. 108621 ID: 395c02

...Yup.

I will draw a koror cause typo managed to write one, but otherwise I might be down and out for a couple days.

DR will likely resume monday??
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No. 108622 ID: 91ee5f

>>108621
Oh no! Slinko and Typo have gotten sick! It's an epidemic! Someone send a doctor! DX

But seriously, I hope you guys feel better soon!
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No. 108623 ID: 398fe1

>>108605
By "several" you mean three? She could gravity boost by placing two in an infinite-fall configuration (entry portal on the bottom ofc) then place another exit portal on the ground pointing up so that she gets launched into the air.
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No. 108624 ID: 91ee5f

>>108623
Just like the Portal video games!
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No. 108625 ID: 395c02
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108625

>>108623
>>108624
The big thing to note is Ceri's aquatic form isn't designed for flying, it's designed for swimming. She's not as aerodynamic or as light as her FLIGHT FORM would have been, so to reach the lake from her house she must either A: glide from very high or B: reset her vertical height multiple times via portals (teleportation resets your momentum).

Ceri is "Meh" at portals, so her range is far too small to do it in 2 or 3. I am loathe to start using real numbers, but I may have to soon...

As a bird, 1 portal is still needed, but she can wing it (HEH) from there. She's not fantastic at flying in general, but she has some practice doing it as a bird. 0 practice for the aqua form :X

The 2 portal method from Portal (the game) would launch her okay, but she doesn't know how to do that currently. She hasn't tried this a single time, though I intend to give a chance fairly soon for magical experimentation.

With Ceri being Not Great at portals, and AMAZINGLY FANTASTIC at polymorph, a single-portal bird launch is going to win over any current method of getting her pudgy aquatic form going.

Ow! Who hit me???

Still, neither choice is going to use more than like 20-30% of her MP. Ceri's kind of an MP sponge and can do more magic longer than almost everyone she knows.

really i just wanted to draw more birds
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No. 108627 ID: 398fe1

>>108625
Dang, we gotta get Ceri thinking with portals.

Also, if teleportation resets her momentum she can use that to break her fall! Maybe she can even set up some kind of reactive passive spell to trigger whenever she's about to hit the ground at a dangerous speed. Long Fall boots, except actually a teleport.
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No. 108690 ID: 395c02
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108690

so the first 2 images of this upcoming update.

I drew 1

edited 1 to make 2, which took a while

REALIZE I FORGOT TO SAVE 1

went back and redrew the edit to make 1

realize I saved 2 at the wrong time and half the work vanished

re-finished 2 again

died a little inside


Never draw while sick

DR might pause again if I don't feel better in the next few days >:C
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No. 108706 ID: 91ee5f

>>108690
Slinko, what the fuck do you think you're doing updating quests while you're sick?! You get the fuck back to bed and rest! And no more updating until you get better! D-:<
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No. 108707 ID: 395c02

>>108706
;-; but i don't want to let people doooooown
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No. 108708 ID: 842fc7

>>108707
And we don't want you to end up STONE D E A D.
Get some rest, dude.
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No. 108709 ID: 91ee5f

>>108707
We all care about you and you're letting us down by not going to bed and getting better! Now go get in bed and start feeling better, you foolish little birb! )-':<

And the same goes for Typo as well!
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No. 108755 ID: 395c02

I'm still sick so i can't

dr someday

rip me
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No. 108760 ID: 398fe1

>>108755
Stop being sick!!!!
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No. 108847 ID: 395c02

Okay, I think the worst is past with this illness, though I'm still doing fairly poorly. I think at this rate I should get better in time to resume Dragon Romance on MONDAY.

If I'm feeling up to it, I may use the weekend to knock out some patreons and minimize the need to do a PATREON PAUSE at the end of the month.

If you're patreon-ing me on the new art tiers, be sure to look at my most recent post on the patreon and fill out the form!
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No. 109000 ID: 395c02

Being sick messed things up a lot, and I'm still not at 100%. I'll try to minimize how long DR has to slow down to allow patreon things, but illness has thrown everything really out of whack. I may take the 25th - the 28th to get those done.
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No. 109001 ID: 595d54

>>109000
Hmm, who might this handsome anonymous birb be???
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No. 109018 ID: 91ee5f

>>109001
It's Typo using Slinko's ID number! XD
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No. 109022 ID: 395c02

>>109018
i mean

if typo wanted to draw a D. ROMANCE update i'd let him
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No. 109031 ID: 395c02

>>109022
slinko that's not a good idea
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No. 109033 ID: 595d54

>>109031
You're right, it's an EXCELLENT idea.
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No. 109107 ID: 395c02

>Slinko is really bad at being subtle

One thing I learned in my years of questing is that if you don't want /quest/ to guess something, you have to be VERY subtle. You have to be so subtle that nobody realizes any hints are being dropping until they go back and reread it after. You have to be subtle on a level beyond what most movies and books get away with, because the moment someone realizes what's going on it all falls apart.

On the flip side, oftentimes I would be too subtle about something and /quest/ would completely miss it.

It's not an easy thing to do right 100% of the time!
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No. 109173 ID: 54ff7b

It has become a major point as to how much Skiff knew about the ritual's mechanics. When he initially told us about it, he was planning to drop a few verses involved in the enslaving bit. From what we later found out in our research montage, would those modifications have had his intended effect? This matters a lot for whether Mr. F's story adds up for not (or at least to the extent to which he was irresponsible if not malicious).
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No. 109236 ID: 395c02

Gonna be pausing DR for a few days to catch up on patreon work. Seems I picked a heck of an update to do it on!

Illness really messed things up. Hopefully DR won't have giant gaps in updates in future months. It really should be further along than it is after a whole year...

The next update will be on WEDNESDAY.

also you guys should bug Typo to write more koror
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No. 109253 ID: 91ee5f

>>109236
>also you guys should bug Typo to write more koror
But then you'd have to draw it and that would add even more stuff for you to do on top of whatever you're behind on!

Plus, I don't really know how to bug Tpyo!
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No. 109254 ID: 91ee5f

>>109253
Damn it! I made a typo on Typo's name! DX
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No. 109266 ID: 395c02

>>109254
it is four letters, how did you even manage that

( :3c )
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No. 109272 ID: 595d54

>>109253
Join the IRC if you like. #tgchan or #neumonofacts on Rizon.
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No. 109273 ID: 91ee5f

>>109266
I was on a computer and keyboard instead of a touchscreen with autocorrect. DX
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No. 109381 ID: 395c02

And we're back. Again.

There shouldn't be any further delays for awhile, though I'm still not at 100%...

I'll just keep chuggin' till it's fine.
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No. 109386 ID: 91ee5f

>>109381
>I'll just keep chuggin' till it's fine.
Well, there's your problem right there! If you chug the medicine like that you'll end up feeling worse instead of better!
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No. 109466 ID: 696fed

>>109386
by medicine he means whiskey right?
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No. 109475 ID: 395c02

>>109466
i don't think drunk updating would lead to good things
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No. 109476 ID: 67456a

>>109475
Nah, but it'd be pretty funny.
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No. 109561 ID: 91ee5f

Slinko is always so busy! Always updating his FA, Tumblr, and quests here! Does he even have time to sleep?! O_o
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No. 109564 ID: 395c02

>>109561
A-are you making fun of me ;~;

i feel bad for how little i manage to get done for asks and for FA in general

the quest is where I always try to keep it going no matter how bad my brain doesn't want it to happen.

btw i got pills for that, things might get weird in the next month.
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No. 109566 ID: 91ee5f

>>109564
What?! No! Why would you think that?! I'm not making fun of you! D-':>
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No. 109568 ID: 395c02

>>109566
Making fun of me is a national past-time!

Why, I remember the great Funnin' of 1997, when the stadium was full of people ready to watch the match of me vs that one guy who made fun of me in 1997

it was touch-and-go for a while but I eventually pulled the play of the game a lifetime: realizing the bell rang and it was time to go home.

I tell ya, that's a match they'd talk about for years to come.

Of course, now I'm older, so I can't shuck and jive with the great Maker Funners like I used to. But there is talk, in hushed tones, of the great comeback, the time when I will return to the ring and be made fun of harder than I've ever been made fun of in my life.

And it will be gloriously damaging to my self esteem
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No. 109570 ID: 595d54

>>109568
Here is my worst bullying: I unconditionally appreciate your existence and am grateful for everything you have done, even the silly stuff and especially Tezakia Quest
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No. 109572 ID: 65ec8d

On the subject of pronouncing "Ceri", I think the name "Ceridwen" probably shares roots with the name "Kerrigan", so I always read it as "Keri". And it's a welsh (or more broadly, celtic) name, so a hard C is most correct on that front, too. Also, as a dimunitive, "Ceri" with a hard C is pretty similar to "Carrie", and no-one has a problem with that.
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No. 109607 ID: cf8ee7

>>107647
Dragon Romance Quest is absolutely everything I want in a quest. Great characters, a good mix of romance, drama, and plot, an engaging hook with enough variation and player choice to not even give the slightest hint of rails, and just enough mechanics to be interesting without being excessive, and an engaging art style.

There's basically nothing I'd want it to do differently, except perhaps to update every day.
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No. 109608 ID: cf8ee7

>>108046
> I will drag Ceridwen kicking and screaming into Safe, Sane and Consensual, Slinko, yoh hear me???

While I'm all for Ceri playing the role of an aggressive and dominant dragon (sometimes), I don't ever want to see her cross any of those lines either.
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No. 109610 ID: cf8ee7

>>107974
I think you should ditch voting and vote counting for almost everything, even things that seem like an obvious "do we or don't we" binary choice; people will infer the obvious options, but they'll also be more encouraged to think of non-obvious options. That also leaves you the freedom to go with a freeform option that you like better or that you felt was better argued, rather than just going by the numbers.

Even for stats, you don't have to count votes anymore; you can have Ceri earn stats through her actions, and encourage people to provide supporting arguments.

You could comment on this in the opening post for thread 5, perhaps.
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No. 109611 ID: 7caf76

In the pastebin where you talk about criteria for proposed characters, you mention that you don't want to draw anal. Does that include of female characters?

Asking because the plot of DR calls for Ceri to get a bit submissive for a bit, and I think she ought to give it a try. If it turns out she doesn't enjoy it, well, "pineapple".

(Of course, if you really feel you have to, you could always use strategic positioning to suggest things while hiding details.)
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No. 109612 ID: e97f18

>>109611
Same question here, though if you wanted to draw the details that'd be fine too.
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No. 109616 ID: cf8ee7

>>109572
> On the subject of pronouncing "Ceri", I think the name "Ceridwen" probably shares roots with the name "Kerrigan", so I always read it as "Keri". And it's a welsh (or more broadly, celtic) name, so a hard C is most correct on that front, too. Also, as a dimunitive, "Ceri" with a hard C is pretty similar to "Carrie", and no-one has a problem with that.

That does seem like a logical possibility. But I can't help but read the name with a soft 'C'; it seems to fit Ceri's character better.
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No. 109617 ID: cf8ee7

>>109612
Yes please. Both for activities in the near future, and for the more distant future.
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No. 109620 ID: 65ec8d

>>109611
>>109612

There's a vast array of ways to be submissive without getting something stuck up your backside. Besides which, Ceri doesn't seem the type? There are always exceptions, of course, but for girls who are into anal I think there's generally a mental aspect, like a way of viewing the act that draws from a certain perspective on things which Ceri doesn't display.

But I'm really biased because I don't like butt stuff.
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No. 109622 ID: cf8ee7

>>109620
> There's a vast array of ways to be submissive without getting something stuck up your backside.

Of course there are. It's a fun one, though. Couldn't hurt to see if Skif was into the idea.

And I don't know whether Ceri would be into it or not. Worth a try to find out.
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No. 109623 ID: 6cd244

>>109616
Obviously "Ceridwen" is pronounced with hard C but when you abbreviate it to "Ceri" it becomes a soft C sound due to complicated childhood events.
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No. 109626 ID: cf8ee7

>>109623
> Obviously "Ceridwen" is pronounced with hard C but when you abbreviate it to "Ceri" it becomes a soft C sound due to complicated childhood events.

That makes far too much sense. Let's go with that.
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No. 109629 ID: 395c02

Names like this are weird because I don't come up with them, so I'm not sure how "right" my pronunciation is. For example, I've called Amiel "ah-mee-el" the whole time, but the person who came up with the name intended for it to be "uh-meal".

So which is right? Both, kinda.

Much like those cats they keep throwing in boxes, she is both "seridwen" and "keridwen".

Though if we're going to call her "Kary" we should see about shifting her to the fire element.

>>109611
I don't like it regardless of equipment. The whole thing seems gross to me, and if I do draw such a thing it'll be as simplified as I can get away with... and probably not written with much detail either.

I may yet let "give the fans what they want" win over personal preference, but I would not hold my breath for detailed butt action.

>>>109608
Some lines are never being crossed.

>>109610
Voting is vitally important when the suggestion count exceeds 15. It gets to the point where there's too many people with too many ideas, and at those times it's easier to have concrete paths people can vote on.

Of course, I can't predict how many suggestions any update will get or if the quest will just fall off a cliff and die, but it's generally safer to not roll the dice that I'll have to manually handle 30 suggestions each time.

Of course, if DR starts averaging 10 or less, I'll be very sad likely switch to pure open-ended-ness.

>>109570
>>109607
ketzahugs.png~
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No. 109630 ID: 395c02

>>109629
...That said, if someone comes up with a better option than I do in votes, others can >this that option or otherwise vote for it.

And of course, an option I really like will win over everything because why not have some fun???
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No. 109635 ID: cf8ee7

>>109629

> I don't like it regardless of equipment. The whole thing seems gross to me

Much less gross than you might think, if done right, which is to say not messier than any other kind of sex. (And magic makes it much easier to do right; in the real world it requires more preparation.)

That said, preferences are preferences; they don't have to agree or even make sense. You don't have to like everything, and as a player I wouldn't want to push you into anything.

If you (and by extension Ceri) are completely opposed to the idea, though, then that will noticeably reduce the options available during any future threesomes.

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No. 109636 ID: 395c02

>>109635
One of the orifices is specifically designed for the task and one isn't!

But Skif is bisexual, and boy-ceri will probably happen eventually.

I might just have to do it... and maybe other things I don't personally enjoy, because I'm painfully vanilla and we wouldn't see much new happen otherwise.

i mean, it's already happening-- i'm not into size difference but amtsvane love did happen

I'll say "Maybe" for now. it's not on the list of "never happening" like some things are.
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No. 109639 ID: 65ec8d

>>109635
>That said, preferences are preferences; they don't have to agree or even make sense.

Nice implications there, buddybro my m8 friendpal dude.

>that will noticeably reduce the options

I suppose the removal of one option is technically noticeable, but that's one out of... hmm... ten, conservatively? More with some imagination, and way more again with magic involved.

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No. 109647 ID: cf8ee7

>>109639
>Nice implications there

No >implications intended at all, but in hindsight can see how it'd come across that way. My apologies. I really did just mean it as "preferences are purely a personal matter of taste". Whatever turns you on turns you on, and whatever turns you off turns you off.

> I suppose the removal of one option is technically noticeable, but that's one out of... hmm... ten, conservatively? More with some imagination, and way more again with magic involved.

It removes several different permutations of double penetration (and uses of fingers), as well as some magical options; in particular, it means no Ceri-sandwiches (or Siphon-sandwiches with Ceri and Skif on the outside...). But yeah, not like there aren't other alternatives too.


>>109636
> boy-ceri will probably happen eventually

Squeee!
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No. 109653 ID: 65ec8d

>>109647
>in particular, it means no Ceri-sandwiches

Double penetration of a single orifice can be a thing, especially with magically induced size differences. It'd also be theoretically possible to shapeshift some more accommodating structural changes down there.

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No. 109654 ID: 3abd97

Hey, if male-Ceri is gonna happen, and she sticks with that idea of giving all her virginities to Skif, she's gonna have to stick a certain stick in him before she can stick it in anyone else. :V
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No. 109659 ID: 6a0d91

If you havta do an anal scene just draw a from behind position with crotches obscured and the words "In da pooper" and you're done.
Or alternatively just smash cut to Skiff apologizing while giving Cheri a bowl of ice-cream and an ice pack with Cheri saying "We are NEVER doing that again!".
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No. 109663 ID: 395c02
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109663

well.

i'm surprised it took 4.7 threads for this to be the topic of discussion.
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No. 109668 ID: 65ec8d

>>109654

Maybe we'll also see girl-Skif at some point! Polymorphism can't normally be used on others but maybe Ceri would learn how to at some point. Or, given that the binding ritual is supposed to allow "magical combo" possibilities, Ceri could "lend" her magic to Skif?
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No. 109669 ID: 398fe1

>>109663
Who's that?
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No. 109671 ID: 395c02
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109671

>>109669
A character in the birb rpg i'm part of that sometimes runs

in this post is the character I play in said game!
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No. 109674 ID: 91ee5f

>>109671
So a female birb Mettaton with stretchy arms?

She's absolutely fabulous!
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No. 109675 ID: ba506f

>>109671
I am now imagining her using her laser light show in a fun house of mirrors and wondering what would happen.
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No. 109679 ID: 91ee5f

>>109675
Everyone going blind.
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No. 109680 ID: 395c02

>>109674
Her species tends to design suits for themselves, some going so far as to go full mech???

Ritwee here is a fashion designer of amazing suits!

Her laser show is so amazing it distracts enemies and makes them vulnerable to attack!

(in the game, based on FATE, her apex skill is charm)
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No. 109681 ID: cf8ee7

>>109653
> It'd also be theoretically possible to shapeshift some more accommodating structural changes

Well, if you're going to go that route, Ceri could always polymorph the female equivalent of hemipenes.

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No. 109698 ID: a03a79

How are y'all discussing this like you're trying to fix a car? Why is this the topic of conversation now?
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No. 109711 ID: 395c02

So, writing isn't easy. Quests are especially difficult because you get one chance. Quests are always a rough draft, with little to no room for revision.

Because of this, some updates can take longer to write than to draw! But sometimes, it's actually easy.

For instance, a purely comedic update is EASY. I can do joeks and silly faces till the cows come home.

Most updates do jokes and try to move the plot forward. These are MEDIUM updates and usually aren't that much trouble.

Then there are serious, plot heavy updates. These are HARD. Getting someone to read a funny joke is much easier than getting them to stick around for drama. It has to be engaging, and relies on them caring about the characters on a level comedy does not.

The current update was VERY HARD. Not only is it plot heavy and serious, it reveals a major plot point. There's no way to know how the reveal will be received until it's posted, making it very stressful and worrying. It has to be done just right and relies on engagement and gambles on the plot not being seen as "...really?" or otherwise taking people out of the story.

Nothing is more stressful than pressing "post" on a VERY HARD update.
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No. 109713 ID: ca0e20

>>109711
I feel that. I haven't had to write a plot heavy update, at least I don't really think so. But I have done some updates that are characters opinion or significant action scenes. And yeah, those can take hours to write making sure that everything is making sense or I don't omit details and that everything is conveyed while all suggestions used are "honored" while keeping characters in character.

But in my case, I assume that I still missed something when I submit it, lol. And cross my fingers that if there's something, it'll be a light mistake instead of something that breaks everything.
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No. 109714 ID: cf8ee7

>>109711
Well, it came across perfectly. And it wasn't a complete surprise.
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No. 109716 ID: 398fe1

>>109711
The update was real good. You did well.
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No. 109720 ID: 91ee5f

>>109711
You did good, Slinko. You did good.
*pats Slinko on head*
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No. 109743 ID: 395c02
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109743

>>109720
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No. 109760 ID: a363ac

>>109743
wait a second... That's not a Slinko that's a Slinketza!
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No. 109764 ID: 477b7d

>I can do joeks and silly faces till the cows come home.

So if Dilia's locked out of her home, you can run a silly quest 24/7 ?
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No. 109766 ID: 91ee5f

>>109760
No, that's Chei, according to the cheipap.png.

Which reminds me.....

>>109743
You may have been able to escape in the main quest thread, but you can't get away from us here in the disthread!
*preens Chei*
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No. 109779 ID: 79a07e

Seems like, as is often the case, the argument here is characterization vs. stat/skill optimization.
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No. 109785 ID: 241e41

>>109779
It's not even optimization, it's just a bad idea. It doesn't address the problem Ceri was trying to solve and doesn't really help her with anything else. She's never had a problem with convincing someone to have sex with her when she wants to, she's been struggling with keeping her urges in check when she wants to do something else. I don't see why she would even consider choice 3, especially considering the way she's feeling at the time.
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No. 109786 ID: 506ff1

>>109785
Because it'd be funny.
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No. 109788 ID: 91ee5f

>>109786
Yeah, nothing says funny like accidentally losing control and killing everyone you love and being aware that you're doing it the whole time with no way to stop.
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No. 109789 ID: 241e41

>>109786
Not even that. Being able to reduce her arousal with unsexy thoughts has a lot of potential for jokes. Converting it into a stat boost (that she doesn't actually need) doesn't open up any potential for comic situations that couldn't have happened even without the boost. In fact, if Ceri ends up in a situation where she needs to increase her Appeal towards someone in particular, she can try to do it with shapeshifting and/or by playing to their unique tastes; there's a lot of potential for humor in a situation like that.

I just don't see any benefit to option 3. It's also out of character for both Ceri and Ilan.
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No. 109791 ID: cf8ee7

>>109789
> In fact, if Ceri ends up in a situation where she needs to increase her Appeal towards someone in particular, she can try to do it with shapeshifting and/or by playing to their unique tastes

Based on how it was used earlier in the quest, Appeal seems less about raw attractiveness, and more about the ability to figure out what's appealing to someone. Remember that we gained some Appeal when we started analyzing some of what Skif did early on to make us feel better.
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No. 109792 ID: cf8ee7

>>109791
It almost seems like a sexiness-targeted version of empathy, at least the way it's been used so far.
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No. 109794 ID: fe7355

>>109791
So perhaps not "sex appeal" alone but also appeal in general combined with it? Empathy, social sense and all that? But what other points have there been where APPEAL has come into play besides that one? One point of data does not a trend make, after all.

Actually, perhaps Slinko could clarify what APPEAL is exactly. Preferably in-quest so everyone that doesn't check or know of the questdis will know. 'Cause if it's all or mostly sex appeal then I'm against option three.

Also, I hope Slink takes into account how many votes aren't for option three if it comes out on top. Because if it's not more than half that want the third option that means a majority of the voters didn't want it, and that may lead to them being annoyed and peeved.
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No. 109798 ID: 395c02
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109798

>>109794
I kind of included the first option despite feeling it'd be kind of unpopular because that's what was asked for originally, but I think it makes sense for Ceri to want control over a slower fuse.

Don't worry I have eeeeverything under control.

Wait, which image did I use again?
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No. 109801 ID: 241e41

>>109791
>>109792
Okay, but that's still a solution to a problem that's not really a problem. Ceridwen's plenty compassionate, and she's been able to understand well enough the kind of things that appeal to others; if she wants to get better at it, she can practice the old-fashioned way. The only time she's had problems with taking others' feelings into consideration was when she was distracted by a ~ overdose and coerced Skif into things that might have been outside his comfort zone, which had less to do with her ability to understand how he felt and more to do with her inclination to care about it when she's distracted by her own urges. Her problems have never been about whether she could have sex with someone. but about whether she should.

Conversely, option 3 won't help solve the problem that is really a problem, which is the aforementioned urges. The thing that Ceri wanted help with was that she kept feeling sexual urges even in really inappropriate situations, and even when she specifically tried to suppress them. Being sexier won't help her with that; in fact, it may even make it worse, if it makes her that much more inclined to play into others' kinks. She hasn't had trouble getting sex when she wants it, she's had trouble avoiding sex when she doesn't want it.

>>109794
I find it odd that the third option was even offered to begin with. No one involved would actually want to choose it.

Ceridwen has spent a long time struggling with her identity, her self-control, her draconic urges, and her ability to make her own decisions; she was worried about whether she was even a real person, and now she finds out that her sex drive was a side effect of her inner dragon trying to take over for her, and she's asking Mr. Ilan for a way to help her control herself.
Skif has been struggling with his parents over being raised to fight her if she becomes dangerous, and he's devoted to helping her protect her personal freedom; he hates the thought of her losing control of herself and becoming a dangerous beast, because of what he might have to do if that happens.
Ilan has spent her entire life watching over her in hopes that she'll have a normal life and her inner dragon won't run wild, and now he wants to ease her into her powers so that she can come to terms with her draconic nature and control it safely. In fact, that's what Ceri is asking him for help with; she wants a way to get a better handle on her emotions, not to attract sexual partners more easily.

It would be out of character for any of them to favor an option that did nothing to help Ceri's self-control. I don't see why Ilan would even mention it in the first place, since it has nothing to do with what Ceri was asking.
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No. 109803 ID: fe7355

Slinko, after reading the other suggesters' posts I think there might be a few suggesters that have mis-read what the "Ability to funnel Tilde into Appeal" option means. I think they may be reading it as TILDE flowing into APPEAL, pushing APPEAL up instead of TILDE until APPEAL fills up, rather than APPEAL increasing along with TILDE. If they read it as that, with APPEAL acting as not just a stat-boost but a secondary TILDE-tank, then choosing the "Funnel Tilde" option would appear better than otherwise. You may want to clarify what that option is exactly in the quest thread.
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No. 109806 ID: 395c02
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109806

>>109803
i live to serve, apparently

are you guys trying to trick me into making this a session quest? because i would die from drawing that much like super dead forever rip slinko died drawing liztits
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No. 109807 ID: 79a07e

I sincerely think some anons just want her to be a mindless sex machine.
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No. 109808 ID: fe7355

>>109806
Thank you very much, Slinko. Hopefully the clarification helped some other suggesters. And better to have this cleared up sooner so those who thought it was otherwise have time to possibly change their vote rather than get peeved that it wasn't what they thought once the vote is final.

>>109807
Yeah, I'm getting that feeling too. It was that group of horny goats that ran away with the second half of the last thread. And I think it was 'cause of all that that nobody caught on that Ceri shouldn't have forced her magic through a anti-magic field after Mr. Ilan said not to do anything wild and crazy magic-wise.

I also think there's a number of "pot-stirrers" who know they're making a bad decision and just want to kick things over for shits 'n giggles. The ones saying "clearly nothing bad can happen LOL!" or along those lines with their vote. Or the ones blindly chasing STATS because BIGGER STATS are more better always!
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No. 109811 ID: a0cb83

I came here to say that all of the romantic-esque updates like Ceri telling Skif that Skif will always be her primary lover have been my favorites thus far.

In general, thank you Slinko for being a great author! :J
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No. 109812 ID: 70983e

>>109808
Hey, if you don't stir the pot once in a while, it's not gonna taste as good.
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No. 109817 ID: cf8ee7

I'm one of the people voting for the option to improve Appeal, and I'm doing so because I genuinely think it's the right choice, not because I want to disrupt anything. I just posted my reasoning in the thread: https://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/771470.html#i788425

I'm also the person who wrote https://tgchan.org/kusaba/questarch/res/714858.html#i716056 almost a year ago, which contributed to https://tgchan.org/kusaba/questarch/res/714858.html#i716682 , which is why I was inclined to consider Appeal as more than just "sexiness". If I thought Appeal was nothing more than being sexy and attractive, I would vote for the ability to decrease Tilde instead.
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No. 109819 ID: 67456a

Slinko, buddy, I love you and I love this quest, but I think the problem is this has kinda outgrown its initial designation of "porn quest" and this is causing problems amongst the suggestors.

I, for one, shall do my best to make our dear Ceridwen a functional non-sex-beast.
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No. 109821 ID: 9bf80c

I think the main point of contention is people's understanding of what exactly Appeal is. Is it just "sexiness"? Is it a more general-purpose "charisma" stat? A representation of Ceridwen's confidence? Would magically increasing it be equivalent to some sort of mind control, or is it just like putting on make-up or taking lessons in how to talk to people?

I think a lot of people are voting differently based on having different ideas of what they're voting for.
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No. 109822 ID: cf8ee7

>>109819
> I think the problem is this has kinda outgrown its initial designation of "porn quest" and this is causing problems amongst the suggestors.

"outgrown"? I don't think that designation was ever accurate.

It's a quest with sex in it, but it also has a really interesting and engaging plot. I love how it has developed. I don't know how Slinko was expecting it to turn out, but I love the way it has, and it seems to get more incredible every thread.

> I, for one, shall do my best to make our dear Ceridwen a functional non-sex-beast.

Same. The plot is far too engaging and fun.

>>109821
> I think a lot of people are voting differently based on having different ideas of what they're voting for.

Yeah, that seems likely.

The last time we had a discussion this big (and with similar repeated questioning of Mr. Ilan about our options) was when we argued about what kind of dragon to be. I think our biggest discussions, contentious arguments, and walls of text tend to happen when we're trying to decide something that affects a large part of the future at once, and isn't something we feel we can decide lightly or take back. We're invested in how this all turns out, in what kind of person Ceri is turning into and what she does with her life.

But I trust that we've put enough into Ceri's strength of character, her mind, her compassion, and her life choices so far, that no one single choice (in this case, to sacrifice short-term improvement for potential long-term advantage) would set her irrevocably down a road to being someone she doesn't want to be.
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No. 109823 ID: cf8ee7

On a completely unrelated note, I just binged the entirety of Slissa Quest, and that had some serious feels. That last video, wow. Thanks for that.
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No. 109824 ID: 79a07e

>>109822
I'd rather not take the risk. The road to hell, and all. Knowing how anons usually have an 'when all you have is a hammer' mindset to things, is we have more of a 'reason' to use Appeal and tilde, we'll abuse it, and that starts the sprial into a brainless sex-beast. Considering the high amount of control we have over her choices, it's not CERIDWEN I don't trust. It's US.
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No. 109825 ID: cf8ee7

>>109824
I can understand that. But at the same time, see >>98829 .
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No. 109826 ID: cf8ee7

Honestly, my only concern is that Euia (or worse, Skif) will think that we're doing this for the wrong reasons. (I posted my own reasons in the thread, and I hope those influence Ceri's reasons if we end up going with that option.) I'd hate for them to think Ceri was just doing this because she's listening to her D.
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No. 109827 ID: 79a07e

>>109825
...Yes? That only seems to further my point.
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No. 109828 ID: 241e41

>>109817
Even if Appeal can be used for things other than convincing people to do weird sex things, that doesn't mean Ceri will be able to use it that way. If Ceri was able to increase her appeal in general then it would certainly be to her benefit, but the boost is only going to help her attract people when she's debilitatingly aroused, and will vanish as soon as she's finished and capable of focusing on other things. She's having trouble with self-control as it is, particularly (but not only) when she's feeling lustful, and that's what she needs help with in the first place. This isn't about "a little short-term convenience", this is about Ceri getting help with a problem she can't fix any other way.

>>109821
>I think the main point of contention is people's understanding of what exactly Appeal is.
No, that's just something that was mentioned up a few times. The main point of contention is that it doesn't give Ceri any help with the problems she's trying to fix, and actually prevents them from being fixed. She is currently incapable of lowering her arousal by any means other than giving in to it. This is what she needs help with. She wants to be able to control that part of her life, and she currently can't do that because of the way her inner dragon is messing with her mind. If she runs into a situation where a high Appeal stat would be useful, she'll have several different options for how to deal with it. There are no other options for dealing with her libido.

If you want to think long-term, then Ilan has said that he'd be able to combine the two options and let Ceridwen reduce her arousal by channeling it into Appeal, once the situation is more stable. And to get there, we need to help Ceridwen become more stable.
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No. 109829 ID: 4854ef

I just want to raise appeal because I want to raise appeal.
That's my wall of text to this situation, mostly because I'm tired of being moralized against because of my vote choices.
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No. 109830 ID: 8d4593

I see this as a purely meta option.

To halve increase would increase the seriousness of the quest.

To allow a decrease would theoretically give us more control, but is pointless as people will always pick porn anyway.

To increase appeal allows for more porny sillyness while powering up our charachter and opening up new options.

As this is a silly porny meta as hell quest, one would think the choice was obvious. Picking literally anything other than appeal is trying too hard.

This quest is way too light hearted for things to go terribly, horribly, grimdark wrong. Seriously this reminds me of after scool cartoons if after school cartoons were filled with sexy dragons.
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No. 109831 ID: 79a07e

>>109830
It WAS a silly porny quest, but's long since gotten more serious.
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No. 109832 ID: e934d1

>>109831
It still has quite a bit of silliness going on to break up the seriousness from time to time which I appreciate in any story.

I think it would be more fun to utilize that out of control tilde into a useful benefit than to try and suppress it with frequent deluges of unsexy thoughts. She did mention wanting to have as many flexible powers as she could when she spoke of why she was looking at that book of forbidden magic, so I think it appropriate to do the same here.
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No. 109834 ID: 8d4593

>>109831
Bruh.
The snake just grabbed a status bar out of our charachter sheet.

We could fucking hug our way to victory if we wanted to.
We could deadpool style weaponize the fourth wall if we all got behind the idea.

This quest is litterally only as serious as we make it. It is pure fun.

While the plot points are dark and foreboding the overall tone and style have been bright and cheerful. Tense moments are nestled neatly between light ones and never linger too long.

Picking to control tilde more closely will only serve to draw out tense scenes, and given how evenly matched the camps are may even backfire by encouraging people to purposfully attempt to increase tilde when someone trys decreasing it. It risks derailing things.

Meanwhile, increasing appeal with tilde simply gives us more options during all scenes with no downside.
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No. 109835 ID: 67456a

I'm not sure how we could utilize the tilde bar in any way beyond sex scenes, to be honest.

And all moralizing aside, this has definitely gotten less silly since it started. Also, also, Ceridwen has outright expressed herself that she's not really okay with the whole "mindlessly giving into lust" thing.

Also, also, ALSO, if Tilde keeps skyrocketing whenever we do anything like it did last thread, we won't be able to take ten steps without fucking something.

This, of course, depends on if Slinko will stop adding 25% to our tilde bar every time something vaguely arousing happens.
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No. 109837 ID: cf8ee7

>>109835
> This, of course, depends on if Slinko will stop adding 25% to our tilde bar every time something vaguely arousing happens.

It sounds like that's (being justified as) Ceri's inner dragon trying to drive her to distraction and loss of control.
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No. 109839 ID: e934d1

>>109835
In addition to overall sexiness appeal improves our empathy and awareness of others. It could help to perk up a friend who's feeling down about something or to talk an opponent into considering negotiating for a peaceful resolution. The claim was with the right words and atmosphere high appeal could help us make ANYTHING sound more appealing not just the sexy stuff.
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No. 109840 ID: 67456a

>>109839
True, but we only get it with a high tilde. Which means Ceridwen's more focused on boning than anything. Not exactly the best spot to be in for playing therapist.

...unless you're playing Porn Therapist, which is perfectly legitimate.
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No. 109844 ID: 398fe1

>>109840
>porn therapist
Sounds good to me!
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No. 109854 ID: c9f250
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109854

>>109844

Hmmm...
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No. 109857 ID: 782976

>>109837
The tilde mostly increases because one of the suggestions tried to get her to think about something arousing. Wait, does that mean WE'RE the inner dragon trying to influence her? We did get to do all that influencing during the prologue before she was born.
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No. 109862 ID: 91ee5f

>>109854
I can understand why the little thing on the couch is nervous. The therapist is hot.
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No. 109872 ID: 73767e

>>109854
>Sex therapist
>Therapy through sex
That little guy on the couch better hope to god that dragon's a she or if it's a guy it's a taker not a giver.

Also
>the_rapist
old ass fucking joke there
>ass fucking joke
I'll stop now
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No. 109879 ID: e934d1

>>109857
It could also be possible that her inner Dragon forged our connection to Ceridwen because it knew it was in our very nature to make lewd suggestions like that. Of course, that logic could be used to argue that Slinko is Ceridwen's inner Dragon.
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No. 109880 ID: 79a07e

Considering how dead even this is, I dont think this'll end well regardless of what gets picked.
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No. 109894 ID: 395c02

So I mentioned quest writing difficulty before.

Well, we just found a new setting: ULTRA DIFFICULT

>>109879
Ceri's seal breaks and a tiny human in a bird costume pops out all "hey sup sorry I made you fuck 3 aliens"

>>109872
Apparently the dragon is indeed female.
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No. 109895 ID: 8d4593

>>109894
>>109854

What is that even from?
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No. 109902 ID: fe7355

>>109895
A commission done by Trout (A.K.A. Troutsworth on FurAffinity) for K0bold (A.K.A. 2718281828 on FA) of a couple of K0bold's characters. If you want to know the (NSFW) reason the little guy is so worried, read the keywords in the commission's description in both Trout's gallery (https://www.furaffinity.net/view/22404438/) and K0bold's gallery (https://www.furaffinity.net/view/22563019/). Just know that while both FA pages for this piece are technically SFW, Trout's gallery is NSFW and K0bold's is very NSFW. You have been warned.
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No. 109904 ID: cf8ee7

>>109894
> So I mentioned quest writing difficulty before.

> Well, we just found a new setting: ULTRA DIFFICULT

We trust you. Whatever you go with will turn out fine.

Did you see this one coming when you posted this particular choice?
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No. 109918 ID: 395c02

>>109904
i expected 2 and 3 to be preferable to 1, i did not expect things to explode

side note if anyone noticed Ceri has 1 pair of horns on her head in normal form when she used to have two it's because the aqua form changed her normal form slightly

totally that and not me forgetting she had 4 horns after months of 2-horn aquatic ceri!
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No. 109919 ID: 4854ef

Things very much exploded.
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No. 109920 ID: 696fed

so you are saying she is hornier than normal?
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No. 109922 ID: 398fe1

Haha, every time there's a split vote we wind up getting something cool out of it.
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No. 109924 ID: a0cb83

Playing to that split and giving emotions was great, goodness

im so glad this quest always makes my days better
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No. 109934 ID: 72ed6b

>>109918
The result turned out beautifully.
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No. 110007 ID: 486124

That was a really touching moment with Euia.
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No. 110008 ID: 395c02

Gonna take this weekend to get some PATREONS done, so the next update will be on MONDAY.

Partly to minimize the end-of-month pause and partly because doing those updates legit wore me out a bit.

But it seems like you guys liked them, so I think it was worth it!
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No. 110242 ID: b15da4

>>/quest/791961
Say, that style looks mighty familiar! You ever draw any Towergirls fanart, Slinko? (Dragon princesses best princesses)
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No. 110243 ID: 395c02

>>110242
That reference was my first time trying!
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No. 110253 ID: 638191

I feel like TELEKINETIC MAGIC would be useful to ceri if she wasn't a shapshifter if you know what I mean
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No. 110280 ID: 395c02

My 👏 April 👏 Fools 👏 Gag 👏 Is 👏 Not 👏 Doing 👏 Anything 👏 Today 👏


i feel dirty all over
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No. 110281 ID: 8d4593

>>110280
What did you do?
WHAT DID YOU DO?!?!?!?
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No. 110283 ID: 395c02

I RANDOMLY FEEL THE NEED TO CLARIFY THAT I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CURRENT SHENANIGANS GOING ON WITH TGCHAN

I DON'T KNOW PHP IT TOOK ME 5 HOURS TO GIVE YOU A "last 100 posts" BUTTON
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No. 110328 ID: 395c02

>So hey what was up with all that not updating bub
I got sick and then didn't feel like updating and was also busier than normal!

Things should be good now, hopefully. I mean. Knock on wood and all that.
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No. 110406 ID: 395c02

Sometimes people ask me how I manage to update moderately often, which is baffling because my update schedule isn't particularly great.

But it was a lot less great during the Slissa era, and DR kind of taught me that I was looking at things the wrong way.

If you embrace "quality over quantity" whole-heartedly, you have a high chance of burning out. To keep a quest going, sacrifices have to be made.

Writing is important. Art is less important. So on days when I need to update but I don't feel so great, I will scribble out pictures faster and in lower quality than normal. This is better than just not updating until the stars align and I feel good.

It's only when I'm so bad off that I can't even write that I'll go ahead and give myself another day to get back into it.

Slissa quest refused to do this, and very nearly ended my questing career because of it. Long pauses are bad for keeping readers engaged, so sometimes it's better to just force something simple out when you don't feel like making sure the eye isn't too low again god damn it
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No. 110408 ID: 8d4593

>>110406
So what you're saying is, animations are The Fucking Devil?
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No. 110409 ID: 398fe1

Is Ceridwen's maximum size limited by what she's shapeshifting into, or is it just a general cap? What about minimum size?
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No. 110410 ID: b15da4

>>110409
Her max and min sizes are 5x and 1/5th her normal size, no matter what form she's taken.
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No. 110411 ID: 51649e

I also am wondering what her minimum size is, and what the limitations for sizeshifting forms are. We've seen Ceri turn into small animals, but to a size that was natural for that animal, if you know what I mean. We haven't seen her really shrink or, up until now, grow shapes beyond their default. At least, I don't think so?

The minimum size question is also interesting because it's easy to imagine what causes the limitations of the growth, while what factors exactly limit the small size is less obvious. Magic is already clearly bypassing things like the need to keep your brain a certain size to think with, or the change in biochemical interactions on the molecular level, or et cetera. There might be a limit to how much of your natural mass you can... displace, or whatever happens to it?
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No. 110414 ID: 395c02

>>110408
Oh my, yes.

>>110410
Minimum size is 1/15. Max is 30 feet or 5x, whichever is less.

Gulketi is larger than this, which immediately makes people think "dragon"

dragons can grow really big.

DR is not meant to be "hard fantasy", so there's bound to be some hand-wavium in the mix.
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No. 110415 ID: 638191

>>110414
and boob-growium
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No. 110432 ID: 91ee5f

>>110415
The second hardest thing to get! The hardest thing to get is Unobtainium! XD
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No. 110438 ID: 72ed6b

What happens if Ceri grows, consumes something (or otherwise has something inside her), and shrinks again (partly or completely)?
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No. 110440 ID: 51649e

>>110414

1/15 is pretty small! For Ceri's standard form shrunk that small, that'd be what, less than half a foot high? That seems like it'd be very useful for stealth.

And for doing tiny little fiddly tasks.
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No. 110458 ID: 395c02

>>110438
Sometimes a lot of hand-wavium.
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No. 110473 ID: 6b202c

>>110458
Depending on how Gulketi responds to our new form, we might find out.
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No. 110474 ID: 395c02

>>110473
severe organ damage ensues
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No. 110476 ID: 72ed6b
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110476

>>110474
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No. 110481 ID: 3395f4

>>110440
If Ceri can make herself that small then maybe she could let Skif see how it feels being big for a while.

... and since she doesn't have to D-burst for that, maybe they could have some fun with it. Especially since she's supposed to not be domming right now.
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No. 110492 ID: 70983e

Polymorphy was an excellent choice.

That is all.
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No. 110494 ID: 51649e

>>110481

I agree with this suggestion.

I hope that when Ceri and Skif are bonded, that mention of possible "magical combo attacks" means Ceri will be able to lend Skif her magic, or use magic on him that she can normally just use on herself. A sort of D&D wizard's familiar-like bond like that seems perfectly plausible. That'd set up lots of possibilities!
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No. 110502 ID: 72ed6b

>>110481
I'd like to see this as well. A half-size Ceri that Skif can easily pick up.

More generally, we talked about letting Skif take charge for a little while, to see what he might want to do. But we could give him some ideas to choose from. It'd be nice to, instead of voting for what Ceri decides to do, provide a bunch of options and have Ceri offer them all to Skif, and let him pick his favorite, or favorites.
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No. 110507 ID: 91ee5f

>>110494
>>110502
Special combo attacks + half-size Ceri that Skif can easily pick up = Skif throwing Ceri at an enemy, then Ceri growing giant sized and squishing the enemy! XD
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No. 110534 ID: 72ed6b

>>110507
It's the fastball-to-bowling-ball special,
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No. 110556 ID: 395c02

Feeling woozy and out of it today, can't focus like at all...

The update might come on TUESDAY instead of today :<
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No. 110558 ID: 72ed6b

>>110556
Ouch, you alright?
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No. 110562 ID: 398fe1

>>110556
DON'T DIE SLINKO
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No. 110567 ID: ca0e20

>>110556
You keep getting sick shortly after I stop being sick.
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No. 110572 ID: 91ee5f

>>110567
So you admit that you passed your illness off to Slinko! Stop doing that! D-:<
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No. 110579 ID: 395c02

>>110567
ONE MUST RISE AND ONE MUST FALL.

I still don't feel great but i forced out an update

I hope I do better in a couple days...
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No. 110581 ID: e97f18

>>110502
> More generally, we talked about letting Skif take charge for a little while, to see what he might want to do. But we could give him some ideas to choose from. It'd be nice to, instead of voting for what Ceri decides to do, provide a bunch of options and have Ceri offer them all to Skif, and let him pick his favorite, or favorites.

This sounds good. Same suggestion process, but make it entirely Skif's call rather than Ceri's. (And he can bring in his own ideas as well rather that or in addition to Ceri's suggestions.)
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No. 110584 ID: 91ee5f

>>110579
>ONE MUST RISE AND ONE MUST FALL.
Who do you think you are? Optimus Prime?
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No. 110593 ID: db0da2

>>110584
I thought he was made of sterner stuff.
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No. 110605 ID: 5195a1

>>110584
Nah, I'd say Slinko and Typo are Megatron and Starscream. But which is which...
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No. 110606 ID: 5195a1

>>110605
Or, alternatively, they're two parts of a Skut hive pretending to be separate people.
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No. 110612 ID: 395c02
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110612

>>110606
Haha, what? That's just silly!
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No. 110613 ID: 395c02
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110613

>>110612
Yeah that's obviously completely absurd.
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No. 110614 ID: 72ed6b

>>110612
>>110613
...I love you so much for this.
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No. 110617 ID: da9c3d

>>110612
>>110613
This is awesome and you (singular or plural) are awesome for making it.
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No. 110618 ID: d6d2ae

>>110612
>>110613
That is so freaking cute!
I love you, Slinko.
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No. 110619 ID: ba506f

>>110612
>>110613
good to see you're having fun.
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No. 110664 ID: a6e944

>>110612
>>110613
Nice. So what's your hive's name, then?
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No. 110668 ID: dd7afa

So, art aside, which bits of quest material and ideas have come from Typo?
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No. 110681 ID: 395c02

>>110668
I write Koror. to the extent it's acceptable to use the present tense for that :X

Dragon Romance is all Slinko, though some of the characters were added through Patreon.
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No. 110682 ID: 3abd97

>>110681
It hasn't fallen into the graveyard yet, so it's still technically a running quest, present tense.
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No. 110688 ID: 395c02

>>110681
That said, sometimes Typo has an amusing idea and goes :3c and then I go :3c and then it happens in DR.


:3c
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No. 110689 ID: 72ed6b

>>110688
Nice. Any ideas in particular that this happened with?
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No. 110691 ID: 395c02

>>110689
I don't actually remember that well, but I feel like gulketza (as in, Gulketi being a ketza) was his idea.

The patreon characters in general are open to a lot of input from their owners, with the caveat that I need to make it all work as a coherent plot.
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No. 110704 ID: 91ee5f

I feel like there should be a "Pull the lever" joke between the aliens somewhere.

Eezeryh: "Pull the lever!"
*trapdoor opens*
Eezeryh: "WRONG LEVEEEeeeeeerrrrrrr.....
*Eezeryh comes back up the stairs*
Eezeryh: "Why do we even have that lever?!"
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No. 110707 ID: 72ed6b

>>110704
Or, given the nature of the quest and Siphon's proclivities:

Eezeryh: Pull the lever!
Siphon: Pulling the lever!
Skif: Yipe!
Eezeryh: Not that lever!
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No. 110743 ID: 395c02

Revised difficulty list:

-EASY
-NORMAL
-HARD
-ULTRA HARD
-OH MY GOD WHAT HAVE I GOTTEN MYSELF INTO
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No. 110745 ID: 4854ef

At this rate Slinko's eventually going to hit Touhou Phantasm difficulty
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No. 110746 ID: 395c02

Eezeryh's owner rightly noted that it'd be a bit out of character for her to just go along with it, so I guess I get to put it off one more update

I really prefer to have such a complicated scene be the entirety of the next 2-3 updates, so this bought time to get them moved and the scene set without me drawing a gigantic update.

A brief insight into how I avoid huge updates because i'm too old to draw 15-image monstrosities anymore!

SOON: CERI SANDWICH


...

...

is

is my quest...

...lewd?
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No. 110748 ID: 595d54

>>110746
Not yet it isn't.
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No. 110754 ID: 72ed6b

>>110743
> -OH MY GOD WHAT HAVE I GOTTEN MYSELF INTO

Serious thanks for how much effort you're putting in here, in writing, in art, and in accommodating suggestions wherever they lead.

To quote an earlier post:

>>109711
> Nothing is more stressful than pressing "post" on a VERY HARD update.

It's turned out awesome time and time again. Don't worry, it'll all turn out fine in the end.

>>110746
> is
> is my quest...
> ...lewd?

The lewdness was inside you all along.
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No. 110760 ID: 91ee5f

>>110754
>The lewdness was inside you all along.
That's what she said! XD
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No. 110765 ID: 638191

RIP ask tumblr
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No. 110768 ID: 395c02

>>110765
i haven't forgotten about it i was just dealing with ill effects of brain pills but i'm better now i guess

though more worry-ful
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No. 110771 ID: 91ee5f

>>110768
Worry is another word for concern (I think)! That means Slikno has been lying to us this whole time! He's not a bird! He's actually a dolphin! A Concerned Dolphin, to be exact!

Wait, does this mean that Typo is secretly a Giant Bird?
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No. 110774 ID: 395c02

>>110771
I mean, it's hard to say you're wrong.
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No. 110777 ID: 91ee5f

>>110774
I knew it!
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No. 110785 ID: 395c02

quests sure make me draw angles and actions i never anticipated
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No. 110817 ID: 392497

>>110785
But you draw them so well!
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No. 110870 ID: 395c02

Mild delays due to not feeling great. Will try to post by tonight but it might happen early tomorrow instead
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No. 110871 ID: 395c02

>>110870
Nevermind I actually feel better now!?

This update isn't one I'm enjoying doing but I'm powering through I think.
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No. 110872 ID: 0555b9

>>110871
Just like Ceri.
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No. 110877 ID: 4854ef

Can only imagine Slinko's mind at realizing what people were asking for this update.

I mean comeon guys she's still discovering what she likes about vanilla, let alone some of the.. stranger ones being asked.
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No. 111179 ID: 395c02

>>110877
Ceri's face was a good aproximation.

Anyway, we did it! Thread 4 had difficulties early on, but post soul-searching I think things really turned around.

The plan: A week (or two?) off to catch up on patreons and do more asks, then I will revive Retcon for the 1-2 weeks it needs to finish, then I will gear up for DR5

As for DR's longer term plans... it seems like thread 6 or 7 will give me a place where I can choose to end the quest, or use that point to end "part 1" and revive Slissa Quest for a while before pondering "part 2"

It'll depend on exactly how the plot goes, and how well DR is doing at the time. If interest is high, it may yet become as long as Tezakia!
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No. 111181 ID: 91ee5f

>>111179
>A week (or two?) off
No, bad Slinko! That's too short! You've been working really hard and you deserve a bigger break than that! I think you should take a month (and a week?) off to properly rest yourself!
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No. 111190 ID: 395c02

>>111181
i-i-i can't do that to people!!!

maybe i'll meet halfway and break for a bit, do the tiny bit left of RETCON, then break for a bit, then do DR5
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No. 111195 ID: 2afc9c

>>111190
> i-i-i can't do that to people!!!

You're worth the wait. Take care of yourself.
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No. 111409 ID: 638191

OH GOD AMIEL IS FAT WHAT DID YOU DO
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No. 111410 ID: 395c02

>>111409
IT WAS JUST AN ASK IT'S FINE BESIDES AMIEL IS A MAJIBEAST NOW SO THIS IS DOUBLE NOT THAT CANON
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No. 111433 ID: 395c02

I guess I did need that break. I'm going to be doing a bunch of art this month, and will be possibly reviving Retcon (again) on the 15th, to run for the week or so it has left.

There's also the BIG CATCHUP STREAMS which i may or may not be too shy to post here as they happen

Retcon's not the strongest Venji chapter (a consequence of 100% completion is sticking with bad decisions!), but I think the next 2 threads in her story will be much more enjoyable for all.

Venji wasn't super meant to be something I'd do off-and-on for 7 years (the quests that originally inspired her have come and gone ages ago), but for better or worse she is my TGchan legacy, and that legacy deserves a proper ending, hmm?

Retcon 2 may happen after Dragon Romance 5. It'll be broken up in such a way that it can be run for short periods between DR threads without hurting the pacing too much.

i hope
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No. 111490 ID: 08580d

>>111433
so venji is just like her "mother"? :V
(in that a short quest becomes EVERYTHING YOU HAVE EVER DONE LIKE TQ WAS FOR TEST)
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No. 111492 ID: 395c02

>>111490
i either do 1 thread or 10 threads there's no middle ground to slinkoquests
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No. 111603 ID: 395c02

And I'm back for a bit. I don't anticipate Retcon taking very long, after which I'll rest for a bit longer then gear up for the Big Plans I have for DR5.

ALSO TYPO STARTED A QUEST???
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No. 111604 ID: 3ce125

RIP Koror.
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No. 111612 ID: 91ee5f

>>111603
>ALSO TYPO STARTED A QUEST???
I'm guessing it's that Second Ascent of Ekwi Irrepaumal quest, right? Is he making you draw pictures for that one, just like he did for Koror?

>>111604
I hope not!
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No. 111618 ID: 395c02

>>111612
Yes, though I'm going to use a simple style this time around because...

>RIP Koror.
...part of why he lost steam is losing momentum, possibly due to feeling bad that I was going nuts doing art for it and DR.

SIMPLE EASY ART MEANS NO GUILT AND THUS NO LOST MOMENTUM WE GOT THIS

m-maybe koror will come back one day ;-;
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No. 111626 ID: 32d095

Would he be cool with simple aet Koror?
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No. 111629 ID: dbf8a5

>>111626
I thought the goal of the quest was to stop Koror from being eaten.
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No. 111630 ID: 395c02

>>111626
If it was only that I felt that the art was too hard on Slinko to do while doing another quest you probably would have seen Koror in a simpler art style or something by now!

But I'm stuck writing-wise and after failing to write what should have been a straightforward update I was hit in the head by something completely unrelated and would rather be updating something than nothing. Or whatever. Look we'll just see how it goes, ok.
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No. 111643 ID: 47160d

>>111630
Yes hello I have a question, what can we do to make the nice cuddly god have friends(I.E. worshippers) again?
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No. 111644 ID: 91ee5f

>>111643
We do things.
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No. 111877 ID: 395c02
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111877

So my plans for the next month or so get... interesting.

For a very long time, I struggled with motivation and focus issues. It got harder and harder to get into "the zone", making quests and art in general feel more and more like a chore.

I hit the "MAKE GAME" tier on patreon, and some basic efforts to make game happened, but I just couldn't keep at it.

I assumed this was because of ~depression~, but it appears there's more to it.


I've been seeing both a psychologist and psychiatrist, and I'm now on a medicine for improving focus that even in this early stage is doing weird things to my mental state.

One of those weird things is me being productive without noticing somehow????

What this means is that if I can get used to the medication, we may see a new era of slinkostuff, wherein there's... well, more slinkostuff.

But for right now it's still early and 'weird'... still, I have high hopes for a future where I can finally do the things I want to do, and tell the stories I want to tell.


I have hopes that this renewed "OMEGA IN THE ZONE" ability will let me handle Dragon Romance with much less hand-waving. Could this mean the appearance of Actual Numbers? We'll see...!

ALSO I AM ON A MISSION TO MASTER FLUFF.
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No. 111878 ID: 3ce125

>>111877
WHO'S THAT FLUFFMONSTER?
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No. 111880 ID: 42bec2

FLUFF ULTIMA WOO

It makes me glad to see you get motivated slinko
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No. 111886 ID: e5b57f

>>111877
That sounds really familiar. In my case, it was ADHD - I can neatly divide my life into pre-medication and post-medication eras now. Being on meds for that and getting therapy and stuff has completely changed my life for the better.

Here's hoping that you have a similar experience!
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No. 111887 ID: ddd967

What kind of medication are you getting? If that's not a bad question to ask. I've had similar problems.
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No. 111892 ID: 395c02

>>111878
It was supposed to be Chei but it could really be a whole new thing, couldn't it? Hmm.....

>>111886
I'm still processing what's going on, but this sounds promising!

>>111887
I hesitate to say, partly from stigmas and partly from the off-chance a spambot is reading this going "yyyeeeesss"

it's the opposite of subtract-erall, 20mg at morning, 20mg at noon (or 4-5 hours after waking up)
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No. 111893 ID: f0e552

>>111892
with the fluff thing, I saw an interesting forum post on a certain site that begins with e

Question: How does do you draw fox tails?
"dont make it sharp and tapered. make it more sausage shape. and add fluff.
https://68.media.tumblr.com/5a3cdf789d34a91372f24ecf78cfab81/tumblr_oqdq6bHtLH1r6790wo1_1280.png

also avoid jagged zig-zag pattern while drawing fluff. add roundness and irregularities to make it look softer
https://68.media.tumblr.com/317cfd35106b5f939bf74a5a6ce7acc7/tumblr_oqdq6bHtLH1r6790wo2_1280.png

and finally, if you are going to draw a fox, look at photos of real foxes instead of other people's art of foxes."

perhaps this could help you improve fluffiness? It certainly looks fluffy.
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No. 111949 ID: 395c02

>>111893
The fox tail provides some interesting insight... thankfully I already do the thing that second link recommends, so I'm not exactly starting from zero. I can draw fluffy things, the key is learning how to draw extremely fluffy things!!


A friend is visiting so things are pushed back a bit, so here's the current plan:

RETCON will try to finish by the 5th of june, and DRAGON ROMANCE will start thread 5 on the 12th.

In the meantime, I'm actually legitimately getting through my backlog... these pills really seem to be helping me!
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No. 112018 ID: 395c02

To give better detail: Retcon updates tomorrow, then will try to update a little faster in order to end by the 5th. But if it ends a bit before or after that's fine too. DR's start date shouldn't be affected.
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No. 112369 ID: 395c02

Soooooo um.

The last Recton update is maybe a slight tiny bit super huge and complicated. Probably the most complex flash-less update I've done to date.

(Nope. No animation. Sorry.)

It's an update spanning 18 posts, took 8 hours to write (which still needs fixing up), and about half of the art is done.

I'm juggling this, patreon stuff, doing stuff for people, and IRL obligations. Even with my newfound energy this is kind of too much to do quickly! Especially with a cat that demands love every 20 minutes.

This isn't the Prequel to the longest pause in history or anything, but for my sanity DR needs to be pushed back a week. It needs prep work I simply haven't had time to do.

Retcon should go up during the weekend, and DR will start on the 19th.

If it makes you feel better, I will probably do two DR threads in a row before reviving Slissa Quest. I have much to learn before doing that...
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No. 112405 ID: 8c3bc9

Just make sure you don't overwork yourself Slinko!
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No. 112407 ID: 91ee5f

>>112369
Hey, listen. You're trying to crank the speed up to "Lagotrope" levels, but if it's going to stress you out, then it's not worth it! Slow down and take your time! It isn't necessary for you to work yourself into the ground for us! <:'-(
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No. 112515 ID: 638191

slinko what did you *DO*
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No. 112516 ID: 395c02
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112516

>>112515
sssttuuuffff~
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No. 112522 ID: 395c02

Oh right the stuff I should type.

Retcon was nearly a victim of The Great Almost Giving Up Of 2015-2016, causing it to take longer than it should have. It was saved by the success of Dragon Romance, and now I don't even have to feel weird about using a hybrid of other peoples' races. When in doubt, add more birb!

I wanted to out-do my largest update on the site, an embarrassing bad plot 'twist' in Venji's original adventure that was 20 images long. The longest update on the site is like 40 or 500 or something, a record held by either jukashi or lagotrope.

Still, I wanted my personal longest to be something less...

Something I could actually be proud of.

So imagine my surprise when I went back and discovered the original was also 21 posts long. Oh well!

This update took a very long time to put together. The writing alone took 8+ hours of writing and rewriting! I've made animations quicker than I made this update.

Not gonna lie I look forward to the comparatively simple Dragon Romance.

also i'm unreasonably proud of venji's creepy icon
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No. 112524 ID: 91ee5f

>>112522
You wrote some mean things to me in that update, so now I'm going to say mean things to you!

You...y-you...you're fat!

Oh wow, I suck at this. Being mean is hard!
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No. 112539 ID: 3abd97

>>112522
>The longest update on the site is like 40 or 500 or something, a record held by either jukashi or lagotrope.
Longest single update by posts and/or images is this monster >>/questarch/551594 by Jukashi. (45 images, 46 posts including the audio).

Longest by wordcount is probably something by Bob. Not sure how to meaningfully compare flashes or animations, although those are somewhat infrequent anyways.

If you want say, the record for the most updates submitted in an hour, or the most simultaneously running threads updated in an hour (6!) that's Lago.

Yay, trivia!
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No. 112540 ID: 91ee5f

>>112539
Doesn't Slinko hold the record for most completed quests? Or at least never having any dead quests?
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No. 112541 ID: 395c02

>>112539
If we ignore copy-pasting (which is practically cheating), that update is only... 43 images. Downright reasonable in comparison! Haha...ha...

i have no intention of ever trying to beat it.

Of course, if we want to go for "total number of picture-like things drawn for an update", then I almost certainly have the record with Tezakia's animation of MJ and Iiji's extremely slow-paced fight.

Tezakia 12_1 is hard to get exact numbers on, as it was all drawn in flash. the FBF segment is about 70 seconds long, and was drawn on mostly 3s and 4s (at 20 fps). We can get a very rough estimate by figuring it's an average of 7 fps. So that's 490. There's a few seconds of pauses or shenanigans that didn't require redrawing an image, so I'd bring that down to 250-300 drawings.

Did you know animation is difficult and time-consuming?


Of course, if you want to be pedantic and note that tezakia wasn't a tgchan quest, then I guess I'll just conce-- OH RIGHT CREATOR'S ENDING.

96 things were drawn in sai for it, alongside some brief FBF flash stuff which were animated much more smoothly, but not for nearly as long as Tezakia 12_1. The total is probably about 120-140.

And this is ignoring the music I made when I made music (though some of Creator's music is by Typo and not me!)


When it comes to working way too hard for quests, I am the eternal king.
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No. 112543 ID: 395c02

>>112540
I am also the eternal king of not knowing when to quit.

Every single quest I've run (and I specify run because I draw images for typo's stuff) has reached a proper ending, or is still going.

(Even Slissa Quest, which will return after DR5)

There's 11 completed quests under my belt (Hugs Quest was run by Typo)

I think one of them was even featured in the wiki front page!
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No. 112544 ID: 3abd97

>Did you know animation is difficult and time-consuming?
Yes, which is why meaningful comparison is difficult. You'd have to unpack and examine each one you wanted to consider, and possibly track down and interview the creators, and probably get a panel of judges to try and fairly decide on measurable criteria.

>>112540
I think you're be right on the first point. A quick count shows Slinko beats Larro (although if we count off-site quests that might flip- how many 4chan quests has Larro done now?) and I think that's the closest contender.

(Most quests total, including dead and abandoned things, is Chirps, although Tavern will probably pass him eventually).

As to the second, Slinko does indeed hold the rare distinction of not having any abandoned quests anymore. Although there are some others (granted a good percent of those are people who only ever ran and completed one thing).
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No. 112549 ID: 395c02

>>112543
eventually we have to figure out if your determination to keep up your streak leads to you finishing my quests too or whatever

On a more reasonable note, Ekwi should be back soon; it was on hold because of things and then stayed on hold for a while because Slinko was doing that huge update.

Right now my A/C isn't working properly and it's supposed to be 90F and muggy all week so I'm not making any promises as to specifically when until I can think straight.
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No. 112551 ID: 395c02

>>112544
>>112544
Well, can't say I didn't try!

The numbers are just fun to think about, really. I'm not winning any of the concrete or subjective comparisons we could make. Even "Most finished quests" is a little weird because some folks have made a bunch of tiny quests, and others have made just one or two large quests. It's a bit unfair to just look at the number!

I'd argue with "anymore". While I did come (very) close to giving up, I didn't actually do so! A big reason SQ and Retcon slept so long is because I really wanted to focus on DR for a while.

Either way, 8 years is a long time to keep at something. Whew.

>>112549
My desire to remove that particular asterisk is pretty strong............

What are your thoughts on amtsvanes running into birds
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No. 112553 ID: 395c02

>>112551
Do you really need to ask that question even
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No. 112569 ID: f08985

>>112553
Hey, details are always good.
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No. 112573 ID: fd402f

>>112551
>What are your thoughts on amtsvanes running into birds

I want to see them literally running into birds. Running down the street and bump into them and all their schoolwork goes flying, like the start of a comedy anime.
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No. 112577 ID: 638191

>>112573
given the scales involved STEPPING on the bird is more likely :V
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No. 112582 ID: 91ee5f

>>112577
And then the amtsvanes start laughing like crazy from all the bird's feathers tickling their feet! XD
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No. 112938 ID: 395c02

Sorry for delays. The Retcon thing knocked me out harder than I thought, and I didn't get everything quite set up like I wanted to.

But a slower DR for a bit is probably better than putting it off another week or two? Maybe???

I want to design more of the town so the quest is a lot less hand waving, and actual exploration and meeting people can happen with full freedom given to suggestors. Things are going to open up a whole lot soon!
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No. 112939 ID: 91ee5f

>>112938
>The Retcon thing knocked me out harder than I thought
When you say this, I keep thinking that Venji didn't like her new MAXIMUM OVERBIRB form and punched you in the face so hard, you got knocked out!
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No. 112940 ID: 91ee5f

>>112939
Also, we don't mind the wait, as long as you take care of yourself first before worrying about us!
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No. 113108 ID: 395c02

i've never played a persona but apparently my system is very persona 5????

is persona the one where you shoot yourself in the head
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No. 113109 ID: a363ac

>>113108
yes
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No. 113113 ID: 8c3bc9

Some of this daily system reminded me of the games, and I just thought it was an amazing coincidence
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No. 113120 ID: ca0e20

I thought 3 was the headshot one. 5 seems more heist-y. Have not played either, only saw people play through 4.
Charlie Tunoku is his real name. =P
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No. 113127 ID: c9f250

>>113108

In Persona 5 you rip off the mask that is your face and blood showers everywhere.
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No. 113214 ID: 4854ef

This quest has produced some amazing quotables so far. "Your inexplicable tits have no power over me!"
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No. 113303 ID: 395c02

Gotta catch up on patrons so the next DR will go up on monday~
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No. 113413 ID: 395c02

It's getting difficult to count votes again, so I'm going to reiterate: please please please make it obvious what you're voting for. If you're going for an option that isn't listed, you absolutely must make it bold!

The easiest thing to do for me is everyone quoting the choice and bold it. If you're lazy, quoting the choice without bolding is passable.

Otherwise, if I don't know what you're voting for, it can't be counted towards anything!
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No. 113453 ID: 91ee5f

Slinko! You've gotta get a leash or something for Siphon! She's invading XenoQuest! DX
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No. 113455 ID: 56ffef

>>113453
Slinko can't contain Siphon! Siphon holds more power over quests than even Slinkpop.
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No. 113458 ID: 91ee5f

>>113455
I thought that was Venji? Since she's the one that's invading and retconing the quests.
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No. 113468 ID: 56ffef

>>113458
Siphon has already invaded and retconed even Retcon quest!
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No. 113472 ID: 91ee5f

>>113468
Aw, damnit. Venji's gonna be pissed when she finds out someone's stepping into her turf!
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No. 113473 ID: 01764f

>>113458
It's definitely Siphon.

What's really funny is that I didn't plan for her to be there - she showed up outta nowhere.
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No. 113579 ID: 395c02
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113579

.....

Did...

Did I just commit myself to drawing complicated store backgrounds for several updates
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No. 113580 ID: 3abd97

>>113579
Possible solutions:

1) Steal stock photos / google image search results as shop backgrounds.

2) Do everything in a top-down tactical view. All the complicated store shelves filled with things become featureless rectangles.

3) Talking heads cop out.

4) Terrible really dim lighting

5) Suddenly a dragon attacks no more complicated backgrounds, whee!
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No. 113581 ID: be0718

>>113579
Draw the storefronts with maybe a window display at best, then overlay the products for sale on top of that! Don't worry Slinko, you can still salvage this!
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No. 113582 ID: f076ad

You could also allow your patrons to choose/have store products named after them, just like Anon44 did at >>/quest/812600
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No. 113583 ID: 56ffef

>>113582
name all the things slinkpop.
Also not drawing backgrounds and instead drawing higlight items from each store.
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No. 113595 ID: 3ce125

>>113579
Welll you don't have to draw each store more than once. You could reuse the same background!
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No. 113653 ID: 395c02

Some of you may be aware that XQ mentioned Ceri's town being "over the mountain". That, combined with Siphon's antics, may lead you to believe their worlds are one in the same. But there's some important things to keep in mind:

XQ was actually a story as in canonically it was being written as a story???

If XQ is 100% canon, it breaks some things (Chei is the only ketza in DRworld, yinglets don't exist in DRworld)

DR is a patreon quest, with the incentive of "get your character in DR!". Outissa (or anyone not made by me) can't show up without being part of the patreon

There's 4 patrons at the 50 dollar tier, the max it can be for now.

Siphon doesn't care about any of that and goes where she wants.


As the HOARD SCREEN implies, the 50 dollar tier may expand to allow a 5th person, and there's interest from Outissa's creator to throw her right the heck in there the moment it opens up. If/when that happens, a modified, DR-lore friendly version of Outissa and her world will be made manifest.

But not yet. Not while I have others to introduce and things to set up.
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No. 113658 ID: 67856c

>>/quest/816565
>(click a letter!)
WHAT SORCERY THIS!!!!
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No. 113684 ID: 395c02

>>113658
HTML AND JAVASCRIPT? MAYBE?
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No. 113688 ID: 91ee5f

>>113684
Slinko is too OP Compootor Weezard! Imma nerf him!
*shoots Slinko with foam Nerf dart from Nerf dart gun*
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No. 113703 ID: 56ffef

>>113688
But it wasn't Slinkpop it was the Great and almighty Siphon!
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No. 113706 ID: 91ee5f

>>113703
Thanks for reminding me that she needs nerfing too!
*shoots Siphon with foam Nerf dart from Nerf dart gun*
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No. 113710 ID: 395c02

To clarify: I originally went HECKS YEAH QUEST ON QUEST ACTION, but then thought about it and was like "oh wait right"

The Yinglet creator has given direct permission for yinglet use, though I'm always reluctant to draw things created by people outside myself and the Ketza Circle (Venji was a rare exception, and came with her own set of headaches). It does mean Beatrix can safely become canon if needed, though!

Chei being the only ketza is kind of important though (what with him coming from spess and all, assuming they aren't LYING), so it'd take one heck of a contrivance to explain Dzi.


Basically I got too hype for things and had to reel it back a little bit because DR isn't a quest so open to shenanigans (since people pay actual money for aspects of it)

But like I said, filling that mysterious '5th slot' means me going through and figuring out how to make it all work, so I'm not saying "IS NEVER CANON MWAHAHA"

I'm just saying "GIMME A BIT"
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No. 113713 ID: ba56e6

>>113710
There's an easy cheat for you, here. Pam said that it was just over the mountains, but that was in Pam's Realm. Considering the place is an eldritch entity's lair can be accessed via door from anywhere, the physics of how it connects to other places need not make a whole lot of sense. Makes bullshitting easy.
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No. 113721 ID: 3ce125

Yeah just have her travel there interdimensionally.
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No. 113722 ID: 395c02

And because of the unfortunate timing, a final note:

Typo trumps all else. If he wants to see a Neumono, then a Neumono I will draw~
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No. 113723 ID: 7fad5d

>>113722
K O R O R


W H E N
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No. 113725 ID: 91ee5f

>>113722
Slinko, you fool! Do you have any idea of what you've done?! Now everyone is going to want Ceri to polymorph into a Neumono!
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No. 113729 ID: 395c02

>>113723
TYPO HAS TO FINISH WRITING IT FIRST
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No. 113734 ID: 395c02

>>113729
TYPO STUCK
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No. 113735 ID: 56ffef

>>113734
get the lube!
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No. 113740 ID: 25393f

>>113735
NOT THAT KIND OF STUCK
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No. 113741 ID: 395c02

>>113740
THAT'S A KIND OF STUCK!?!?!?!?
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No. 113744 ID: df00b4
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113744

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No. 113770 ID: 56ffef

>>113744
DICKS IN BUTTS!!!
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No. 113772 ID: 25393f

>>113770
I WAS NOT EVER TALKING ABOUT THAT GEEZ
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No. 113773 ID: 7fad5d

>>113772
BUT YOU ARE NOW
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No. 113774 ID: 56ffef

in other news Slinko do you care if someone puts another USER SECTION store in the pot for now I thought of adding in SWOLE TIME FUN TIME for ceri to look at.
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No. 113784 ID: 395c02

>>113774
That's fine. People can add more stores here if they want!
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No. 113801 ID: 56ffef

Swole Time, Fun Time: A shop devoted to giving affordable at home equipment for the hermits who want to get SWOLE. at the back of the store there are even some products devoted to Kegal weight lifting.
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No. 113810 ID: f0e552

I feel like there needs to be a big distinction between 'size difference' and 'macro/micro' in ceri's fetishes. Because one I feel is pretty tame (in terms of furry standards) and the other is really specialized.
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No. 113814 ID: fa6d51

>>113810
Where do you draw the line between them?
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No. 113817 ID: c9f250

>>113810
Typo sheds a single tear.
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No. 113818 ID: 91ee5f

>>113814
Oh, that's easy. You just have Size Difference and Macro/Micro stand next to each other, then you draw a line on the ground between them! XD
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No. 113819 ID: 17c2ee

>>113810
Nah.
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No. 113833 ID: 395c02

>>113817
Oh noooooo
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No. 113845 ID: 91ee5f

>>113833
*crashes through a wall*
OH YEAAAH!!!!!
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No. 113854 ID: 56ffef

>>113845
Get the paddy-wagon.
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No. 113855 ID: 56ffef

Skif's hunkey dad. So dreamy~
Fetalized eggs and Pregnancy. Because the great ketza in the sky demands it to be so.
Spreadsheets, Charts, and status screens you just have so many and more keep coming up.
Ice cream. So much of your emotonal support system depends on proper ice cream application.
Pangolins. see https://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/809039.html#817872
Villains. see ^
Admin privileges that allow editing post after they are posted. Wait not thats slinko's fetish.

Here have some fake kinks slinkpop
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No. 113856 ID: 91ee5f

>>113855
>Ice cream. So much of your emotonal support system depends on proper ice cream application.
I support this one! She needs that ice cream!
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No. 113858 ID: 638191

>>113856
she needs actual working boobs so she can "make her own" if you know what i mean
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No. 113859 ID: 56ffef

>>113858
A polymorph a day keeps the ice cream addiction at bay~~~~
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No. 113860 ID: 91ee5f

>>113858
We've already been through the "milk stat" debate and it was a "no", so we're not going to do that again!

Besides, that'd be too much work! It's easier to just buy it from the store!
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No. 113862 ID: 638191

>>113860
I will stab you
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No. 113863 ID: 56ffef

>>113860
well we could always move the milk stat lower and be more like Daatra~
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No. 113866 ID: 91ee5f

>>113862
Not if I stab myself first! >:-D

.....wait, that's not right.
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No. 113910 ID: 395c02

This update took a very long time to put together. I spent extra time drawing it in higher quality, and added color, as a thank-you to all of you who stuck with me this far and indulged my desires to tell a deeper story than 'porn quest' might have implied.

What better way to say thanks than to have Ceri model outfits you designed for her~
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No. 113911 ID: 91ee5f

>>113910
Praise the Slinko! :-D
*gives a standing ovation of applause*
Bravo! Bravo! :-D
*tosses a bouquet of roses at Slinko*
You're so cool! :'-D
*sheds many tears of joy*
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No. 113919 ID: 56ffef

>>113910
very nice update slinko
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No. 113921 ID: f076ad

Yeah, seriously good job!
and nice boobs...

Was totally not expecting to see Ceri pose in every one of the outfits. I bet a lot of people are feeling regrets about not drawing their own designs now. I'm kinda sad there were so few.

I feel that by coloring an image I kinda forced Slinko into coloring all of them as well. I'm sorry! (I can color them for you next time hohoho, it's so simple! *paintbuckets*)
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No. 114037 ID: 395c02

So.

Due to very poor decisions on my part, I have very little Adderall until the 17th when things can be renewed.

...Because of the nature of the drug, I'll reveal that the poor decision was trying out a different drug (ritalin) to see if it'd help better.

It did not.

Because I often forgot to take the second dose of Aderall, I have enough to take one every 2-3 days between now and the 17th. This is enough to keep DR kinda running most of the way there. However, my brain turns off when I don't take adderall (how did I run so many quests for so many years in that fog...?), meaning DR can't have as much thought put into it, so the update quality may struggle a little.

It may also have delays.

All other projects other than DR can't happen, including chest day. I just don't have enough time where I function like a human being.
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No. 114039 ID: 8c3bc9

Take your time as always, Slinko! You're worth the wait.
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No. 114204 ID: f0e552
File 150217963510.jpg - (9.58KB , 800x600 , ceri.jpg )
114204

I feel like this image would have been appropriate should it have been used instead of the normal version.
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No. 114206 ID: f076ad

>>114204
I think not. And I think you should learn about the difference between JPG and PNG image file formats.
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No. 114210 ID: a62648

>>114206
Why theres nothing wrong its beautiful i can litraly feel the pixels.
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No. 114211 ID: a363ac

>>114206
touch the pixel, love the pixel, fuck the pixel.
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No. 114230 ID: 47160d

So fun fact about Purpose, it is learning Hindi as a hobby, among other languages, and was boredly glancing at the quests to see if anything updated today and noticed something. The names in this quest, for the most part, look REALLY like transliterated Hindi, like to the point I don't doubt at least one is a Hindi word or name. Just a fun fact I thought someone might find entertaining
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No. 114239 ID: a363ac

Slinko-man draw Beach day lewds!
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No. 114240 ID: 395c02

>>114239
Until the 17th, my ability to draw things is pretty limited
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No. 114265 ID: f0e552
File 150226551097.png - (77.28KB , 800x600 , pls.png )
114265

>>114206
oh, sorry, here's the high quality .png version
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No. 114272 ID: a62648
File 150227593230.gif - (681.33KB , 800x800 , 1460252872979.gif )
114272

>>114265
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No. 114480 ID: 395c02

Mild delays as I take care of stuff!
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No. 114527 ID: 3ce125

RIP Daatra.
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No. 114529 ID: 4854ef

Gotta love the judgemental votes.
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No. 114541 ID: 395c02

So tomorrow marks the end of my pill woes, and the return of my brain to full function.

I considered pausing DR a few times, since even with my backup supply it was very hard to focus on it and write it as well as I wanted to. But I held in there and we made it through a foggy month with few delays! Wooooo

Boy I hope nothing crazy happened while I was all foggy.
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No. 114543 ID: 79756e

>>114541
No worries. Nothing happened. At all. Blowjobs don't count!
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No. 114564 ID: 8d4593

>>114529
>return of my brain to full function
Yay!
>Boy I hope nothing crazy happened while I was all foggy.
Everyone is freaking out over nothing!
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No. 114619 ID: 395c02

I'm back on the full dose now, but the results weren't as expected. I had to do this DR in worse shape than when I had fewer pills!

I think my brain needs to adjust again, like when I first started taking them. Things might be weird for a little bit.


The gem system was thought up when I realized the issues with the COMP system. Having a simple bar of "you're selfish" and "you're selfless" reduced something as complex as character to what is basically a percentage. It also felt too much like a "good" and "evil" bar.

It also removed freedom from suggestors, making it so Ceri is forced to do or not do certain things based on where the bar stood. I've always firmly believed that quest authors should take the role of "guide". we show our characters, our world, and the paths people can go on, but it's the suggestors who decide how it all ultimately plays out.

In simpler terms, going "you can't be a weird benevolent world taker-over because your comp is too high" is more railroady than I'd like.

The gem doesn't tell you what to do. It simply shows where your choices have lead. It's designed so you can't see it change at a glance. It's only by reflecting on your past actions (...comparing it to older images...) that you see where you were and where you are now.

Finally... as the update said, Ceri is an adult now. We learn and grow our whole lives, but the basis of who we are is shaped most by our childhood. The bar made sense for young Ceri, but doesn't really fit now.


I'm not 100% on "black vs white" because that still feels "evil vs good", but it is the easiest way to have something I can keep track of. One alternative is to use "green vs blue" which is still fairly easy to do in sai, but might be too confusing. Thoughts?
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No. 114622 ID: 79756e

>>114619
I don't think the comp bar was really as bad as you say it was, that is, I don't think it was reducing the complexity of the MC in any way. I also don't think that it was really limiting the options of suggesters because.. suggesters are already limited to a certain set of options in every update. Being in this place you can only do these things, talking to this person you can only say these things etc. is nothing unusual. Hell, one could look at the bar as a guide pointing you in the right direction. Or perhaps you could think of it as a challenge to overcome. For some suggesters it's actually easier to work with a more constrained set of options. So yeah, it's hard to say whether the bar was a good or a bad quest feature.

Tho I do agree that it could've been seen as "good vs evil" and it's certainly too.. out in the open and easily accessible. So I do agree it should be a bit more obscure. I think it should only start warning us if we're really going too far in one direction too fast, but other than that it should act more like the tilde bar, returning to zero/neutral position after a short period of time.

And you know how /quest/ is. They will always go with the nicest choice. So it's them who are limiting the options more than anything else. I don't like this because sometimes there are some super funny options available, but they're skipped simply because it would be a bit selfish and OH NOES OUR FUTURE PLANS RUINED. If it was me, I'd give SELF a green color and COMP a red one haha. Just to balance out this default tendency of seeing self as something bad.
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No. 114629 ID: be0718

>>114619
As long as people are deciding where to take the plot based how it affects the status of a bar, I think it would be better to remove that bar entirely. Morality isn't a zero sum game. At the very least, please do switch to green/blue.
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No. 114640 ID: 3ce125

>>114619
>wat colors 4 gem
Red has too many negative connotations so I'd avoid that, but I'm not sure green and blue have clear meanings. How about gold for selfishness(greed) and blue or green for compassion?
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No. 114641 ID: 7fad5d

>>114640
>I'm not sure green and blue have clear meanings
>blue or green for compassion

Let's go with orange and brown or whatever other random colors.
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No. 114643 ID: 3ce125

>>114641
Ok let me spell that out a bit more for you:
blue and green don't have clear meanings when compared to eachother. They are both cool colors and have no strong moral/emotional connotations nor do they have a relation to something physical that would be useful in this context. Blue would relate to water, sadness, and maybe a "red vs blue" goodness quality. Green brings to mind green traffic lights which has all sorts of varied connotations, plus maybe envy or earth/grass.

On the other hand I guess you could argue yellow is the color of Compassion in the Ultima games and thus shouldn't be used for selfishness.
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No. 114658 ID: 395c02

I remembered an incredibly important fact that's going to make colors not work: some people are colorblind.

The slightly more "real" answer to why the change is that I don't like the extra work of removing "selfish choices" and coming up with brand new "nice and COMPy" choices. It feels too constricting, both for me and for you guys.

You can look at the gem as 'good vs evil' if you want. Or 'Ceri's effect on people around her'. The important thing is it being subtle and in the background. Ceri isn't going to bring it up very often (I change the stat screen an awful lot for how little we look at it >_> ), and it's not going to immediately drop if she makes a mistake, assuming she (via your suggestions) wants to make things better.

Basically: Just suggest what you want. I don't actually care what shade the gem is at the end, and any 'ending' to this quest will depend on your actions, not a single chunk of pixels on the stat screen.

If it's glowing brightly by the end, that means people who want her to be compassionate can pat themselves on the back for a job well done.

If it somehow turns black, those who caused that can feel vindicated in finally leading a quest protagonist to not be such a goody two-shoes.

Black is unlikely though because I know you guys too well Ceri grew up as a compassionate person. The most likely outcome is grey, because all people have both COMP and SELF in them.

And a white gem won't stop Ceri from being a benevolent world leader, if that's where her destiny lies~
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No. 114659 ID: be0718

>>114658
It sounds like you're moving it closer to a "right vs wrong" meter when you want to move it further away instead. Maybe COMP and SELF should go back to going up and down separately, rather than being tied to one another. Perhaps, for example, like the Paragon and Renegade meters of Mass Effect?
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No. 114660 ID: 7fad5d

>>114659
At this point, why not just do away with them altogether and only mention it at the ends of chapters or whatnot? Secrets found X/Y, self-comp blah blah blah and so on.
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No. 114661 ID: 3abd97

>>114658
>>114659
Yeah, tracking traits independently instead of on tradeoff slidebars has advantages. For example, Fallen London tracks such things as separate 'quirks' and offers this explanation:

>How can I be both Magnanimous and Heartless? Both Austere and a Hedonist?
>People are complicated creatures, and characters are never simply black and white. Perhaps you choose to do different things in different circumstances. Embrace your complexity.
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No. 114663 ID: 395c02

>>114660
It's sort of designed to fill this function. Unless you really are the type to color-grab the gem every single time, you're not really going to notice it changing until a lot of time has passed.

But I have a bad memory and accuracy would drop a lot if I had to try and guess at thread-end.


>>114659
>>114661
I'll spend some time thinking on it. Honestly my brain is still in a very weird place and I probably won't be back to full capacity for a couple weeks.

I'm probably not going to make any further changes right now (barring a big suggestor push for an idea), but I do plan on redesigning a bunch of stuff in the near future.


For now though, the basic idea is "don't worry about it", so... don't worry about it! The gem isn't going to do anything but sit there and very slightly adjust shades of grey.
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No. 114699 ID: 395c02

Gonna be honest, I didn't expect to have to deal with the Adjustment Period of Adderall all over again-- it's not like I went cold turkey for a month.

It's hurting my ability to think clearly for DR nearly as much as my lack of the pill was

DR hasn't had an update where I was clear-headed in over a month now, which was fine when it was mostly jokes, but now I can't even tell if I'm making things too serious or not. None of my 'checks' are working right now.

If this doesn't clear up in a couple of days, I might pause DR for a week or two until I can finally think like a human being. I'll let you know if this is the case.

Stay tuned.
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No. 114701 ID: 8c3bc9

>>114699

I thought this update was fine with Ceri's thinking putting a nice balance imo, but if you need to rest up during your adjustment, don't let us stop youuu.
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No. 114702 ID: 395c02

>>114701
That's good... maybe my experience is such that I can apparently do this metaphorically-blindfolded.

I'd rather not keep doing that though!

I was told caffeine might be making things worse (and indeed, I was weaning off soda before the crisis), so I'm going to go back to doing that too. I'll keep you posted~
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No. 114769 ID: 395c02

I'm doing better, but I'm going to pause DR for a bit for various reasons. Typo's leaving to Lithuania soon for one, and I really want to get less behind on patreon now that the crisis is over.

I also need to rethink the pacing and whether I want to speed things up, or plan around the current pacing...

Anyway, Dragon Romance will resume MONDAY.
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No. 114771 ID: 91ee5f

*cough*Tumblr*cough*
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No. 114780 ID: 395c02

>>114769
>Typo's leaving to Lithuania soon
On that note, Typo quests will come back after I figure out how my life is going to work over there, at the earliest.
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No. 114791 ID: 395c02

>>114771
ok fine i guess i'll update the ask blog a bit in the meantime
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No. 115101 ID: 395c02

Sometimes I have issues with pacing, and some decision points seem like they don't lead where you'd expect them to lead. This update highlighted what's going on in a way that helped me understand why this keeps happening, and I'll give you some insight into the process.

When something completely different to what was voted on happens, it can feel like I'm railroading or just doing whatever, but this actually isn't the case. The current update would have taken a completely different form had any other choice won, and indeed we wouldn't have run into Siphon here.

So why did we not even get into the mall? Good Suggestion Spots, and Update Size.


Believe it or not, I don't actually like making updates larger than 4-5 posts. The current update took me 3 and a half hours to write because everything I came up with was too long and too bloated. You see, Ceridwen is powerful. Because she's powerful, most of her actual challenges are character-based. It's nearly impossible to give her a physical challenge she can't wave magic at, and I hate having ==> updates.

This often means that the next actual 'challenge' is a good 10 images from where ceri is without some serous pondering.


For instance: initially I wanted to put a challenge to overcome in the form of Security at the mall entrance. I spent 2 of those 3 hours just figuring out the details of how they'd keep magic users from breaking in, and none of them lead to a result that wasn't -Use your OP magic to instantly beat this challenge..

Next thought was putting Ceri in the mall. Again, there were no challenges I could think of. In leu of challenges is the opportunity for Shenanigans, but the egg-laying thing was the only shenanigans I could come up with for an invisible ceri in the middle of the mall. This means the only real option is -Keep going to LOVE YOURSELF?.

I could skip all that and plop Ceri in front of LOVE YOURSELF, which would be nearly ideal for the pacing I want to have, but it feels so unsatisfying to have a vote and then skip all the good stuff it'd affect.


Thread 4 showed me that Ceri doesn't do super great by herself. She needs someone to bounce off of, someone to give her challenges and decisions more complex and interesting than "throw magic at it".

At least, it feels like a better solution than what thread 4 did, which was take away her magic.

I'm a character-based writer. If I don't have characters to write, the weaknesses in my writing start looking more and more obvious.

Obviously, if I had a week to work on each update, I could have come up with SOMETHING challenging/amusing/shenanigany to do while invisible in a mall, but DR takes so much work that I generally want to spend the off days not thinking about it at all... this means I have a few hours at most to figure out what happens next in Ceri's adventure.


Sometimes the best I can come up with is to delete 500 words and 2 hours of work and put Siphon there instead.



Turns out Invisibility was way too good an answer for the 'how to mall naked' challenge.
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No. 115107 ID: 3ce125

>>115101
>I could skip all that and plop Ceri in front of LOVE YOURSELF, which would be nearly ideal for the pacing I want to have, but it feels so unsatisfying to have a vote and then skip all the good stuff it'd affect.

I dunno, I feel like it's ok to have everything go as planned every now and then.
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No. 115110 ID: e8f4bd

I think polymorph is even easier than invisibility. As far as challenges go, I think invisibility is definitely too powerful spell. It should be nerfed in a way. Perhaps by saying that that cost for continuous usage is exponential. Like, 1min duration is really easy to reach, but then 2min is max. AND CERI LEARNS THIS THE HARD WAY.

Or perhaps you could introduce mana-burn devices... THEY WERE SIMPLY BROKEN EARLIER IN THE MALL AND THEY FIXED THEM NOW OK. If Eezeryh can make such a tool, then magic users should have a variation of it also.
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No. 115114 ID: 8c3bc9

>>115107
I think a mixture of plans that do work and plans that don't can lead to some good unpredictability; the readerbase could be left wondering at future plans "oh gosh, will this one work?"
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No. 115117 ID: 3abd97

>some decision points seem like they don't lead where you'd expect them to lead
>something completely different to what was voted on happens
Personally, I feel like that's somewhat part and parcel of making decisions, unless one happens to be omniscient. The readers (and the characters) never have all the information, which means sometimes outcomes will be radically different from planned or intended outcomes.

I mean, yeah, railroading away all player agency is not a great thing, but players expecting to have complete control is equally silly.
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No. 115118 ID: 91ee5f

>>115110
>It should be nerfed in a way.
It already is nerfed.

Ceri is so good at polymorph that, if she started at max MP, she could just stay polymorphed for an entire day.

Meanwhile, we're currently using invisibility with only 80% of her total MP left and she can only hold it for 15 minutes.

Invisibility has already been nerfed.
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No. 115120 ID: 3ce125

Oh, on the "something completely different happened" thing?
Doesn't matter. The vote went through, Ceri decided on invisibility and will be using it, so the suggestions had an impact. This is pretty much exactly like spending an update on a long-term plan vote, then the next update is about dealing with something in the short term.
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No. 115121 ID: 395c02

>>115107
Of course. Things have gone well many times in DR, and Ceri usually points it out since things going well tends to stick out less than things going wrong.

My main problem was it felt really anti-climactic to skip to the end. Even when things go well, I tend to prefer to draw it out. But it made the update too large to do so.

Maybe I was overthinking it, though. if I want to pick up the pace, I need to be more okay with breaking "show don't tell" a little bit.

I'll be thinking on pacing as I go. Just how long DO I want this thing to be...?

>>115110
While I love the Shenanigans that could happen with random spell failures, I sort of trapped myself by letting Ceri be invis so long in thread 4.

I might consider weird magic fields... eezeryh's device is meant to be unique, though.

>>115117
The suggestors always have an effect, even if the effect isn't always obvious. There are 5 "planned events": 3 patreon character events (which have to happen but the details can be fudged), and 2 Major Plot events (which may change completely based on choices!). Everything else is me setting short term 'checkpoints' to guide towards and winging everything else based on the world and characters I built and what Ceri does with them.

i wing it because birb hehehe peep peep peep


>>115118
It isn't a nerf if that's how it always was! Ceri couldn't even turn fully invisible as a child, and during thread 4 could hold invis for about 15 minutes from 100% mp (so about about 18 minutes from full MP now). She can also use a D-BURST to be invis for far longer, should the need arise.

Of course, the D-BURST only lasts about 10 minutes itself, but that's still nearly half an hour with her pretty lowsy INVIS stat.

Part of the issue is some of these stats haven't been trained in forever. After the mall segment, I do intend to have the pace speed up a little so we can actually get those bars growing.

>>115120
This is something I do and then worry that people won't realize I'm doing it. There's been many times where I scrapped 50% or more of a written update because I realized I was panicking from this concern when I really shouldn't be.



Anyway. I really am trying to keep things moving! I cut out so much random tangents about the world Ceri lives in to keep things going, maybe too much sometimes.

But who wants to read 2 posts of Ceri explaining in detail how the mall keeps people from stealing things and the details of how the dock works? There's better things she could be doing, like getting a handful of Siphonboob.
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No. 115122 ID: 3abd97

>who wants to read 2 posts of Ceri explaining in detail how the mall keeps people from stealing things and the details of how the dock works?
...people like me who are really into getting into the gritty, living lore of a setting, and the practical way cultures and civilizations adapt to the things that are different than our own world?
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No. 115124 ID: 395c02

>>115122
....

Huh.

I... admit, now that my brain's turning back on, I have some desire to make a proper stat system, and think about things I was too muddled to think about before.

Maybe it's fine for DR to be a slow-burn kinda quest...?
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No. 115125 ID: 8c3bc9

>>115124

People seemed to be alright wanting to help raise Ceri through childhood > Immediate adult times, you're doing fiiiine.
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No. 115126 ID: 3ce125

>>115124
Just don't go too slow!
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No. 115163 ID: be0718

>>115124
Well, Patreon *does* pay by the month, cough cough!
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No. 115184 ID: 395c02
File 150448195969.png - (66.45KB , 800x600 , DRsilly1.png )
115184

>>115126
>>115163
"Hey Skif!"
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No. 115185 ID: 395c02
File 150448197174.png - (73.41KB , 800x600 , DRsilly2.png )
115185

"...."
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No. 115186 ID: 395c02
File 150448198329.png - (75.10KB , 800x600 , DRsilly3.png )
115186

"Yeah?"
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No. 115187 ID: 395c02
File 150448206303.png - (75.64KB , 800x600 , DRsilly4.png )
115187

WHAT WILL YOUR NEXT WORD BE?

-Should
-You
-I
-Let's
-Boobs



...better not
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No. 115188 ID: be0718

Boobs. Was there ever any doubt?
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No. 115189 ID: 3abd97

>>115187
Throw your hands wide and exclaim "Boobs!"
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No. 115191 ID: 7fad5d

BOOBS!
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No. 115192 ID: 395c02

oh no stop it's not actually a thing i'm doing pls


pls
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No. 115196 ID: 8c3bc9

>>115187
SO

>>115192
slinko, you just unleashed DR omakes
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No. 115197 ID: ca0e20

Those are such cutes though.
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No. 115199 ID: a363ac

>>115187
So
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No. 115200 ID: 91ee5f

So
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No. 115202 ID: 416762

boobs!
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No. 115221 ID: 8d4593

>>115187
SO
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No. 115222 ID: e8f4bd

This is a trick. Do not trust Slinko.

If you choose Boobs, then Slinko will just make up something mundane like
"Boobs on that girl over there are way too large."
But if you choose something innocent then he's gonna turn it into something controversial. like "I'm gay.". Or "Let's fuck".
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No. 115416 ID: 91ee5f

I hate to say this, but I'm seeing a bunch of IDs that I've never seen before and they're all spamming "Naked Sneaking Mission!"

Are we absolutely sure that there isn't a bunch of assholes changing their ID so that they can force the Naked Sneaking Mission to happen?

I've already voted to not do that and I'm not trying to cheat and force it not to happen. I just want to make sure that if the Naked Sneaking Mission does end up happening, it was because of a bunch of honest votes and it wasn't rigged by 1 or more guys changing their ID.

If it turns out that I'm wrong and no one has been doing that, then I apologize for accusing them of cheating.
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No. 115417 ID: e4b014

>>115416
I can confirm that this is not the case.
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No. 115418 ID: 91ee5f

>>115417
Ok, just wanted to be sure.

Thank you for telling me that and, like I said before, I apologize for accusing people of cheating.
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No. 115422 ID: 3abd97

>accusations of cheating to continue running around naked and invisible
Can't you see we have nothing to hide? I feel like we've been quite transparent about this!
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No. 115423 ID: d4516a

>>115422
You're right, the truth should be pretty bare and exposed for everyone to see.
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No. 115426 ID: a363ac

>>115423
I mean we are trying to hide the truth a little but just the tips of the truth.
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No. 115443 ID: f0e552
File 150488086455.jpg - (11.29KB , 326x290 , ree.jpg )
115443

>>/quest/828885
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No. 115481 ID: 4854ef

I wonder how many posts have been Ceri sounding excited for something, then suddenly depression.
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No. 115489 ID: 395c02

>>115481
look when it's egg-laying season your emotions get a little all over the place
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No. 115622 ID: 395c02

Before the anger and frustration flares too high, there's something to keep in mind about how I do things:

Sometimes situations like this come up where the vast majority wants something so much that others, who might see the flaws in the plan, feel they can only watch in horror at what's about to unfold.

But don't lose heart, because I never make a no-win scenario.

Suggestions affect things in sometimes subtle ways, ways not tied to votes. Ceri is being a stubborn teenager right now, but nagging feelings in the back of her mind may yet stop her from doing things that ensure she'll get caught and face dire consequences.

She's all-in on this adventure, but that doesn't mean she can't play it safe. I telegraph most 'traps', and the quest is weighted in favor of those who see it.

This mall adventure as a whole is not a trap, just a dangerous path full of them. Stay vigilant!
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No. 115645 ID: 830fb7
File 150530482923.jpg - (110.09KB , 407x600 , Ceridress.jpg )
115645

Just thought of an outfit for when the D-Day party happens with skiff and his parents.
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No. 115646 ID: b9b4da

>>115645
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
(Maybe ditch the hat and it'd look better.)
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No. 115679 ID: 395c02

The last 3 updates have been extremely labor-intensive, taking about 10 hours each.

I'll burn out at this rate, so I'm delaying the next DR until MONDAY. I tried to give you plenty to vote on, at least.
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No. 115785 ID: 395c02

The burnout is a little stronger than I thought.

I meant Tuesday.
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No. 115786 ID: 314bcd

>>115785

No worries Slinko, we care about your well being above all first!
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No. 116065 ID: 45b653

Question: is it possible for Ceridwen to use polymorphism and teleportation to create perfectly dragon shaped stone statues. For example by transforming into a dragon teleporting into stone (replacing it with herself as previously explained) then back to a slightly different spot.
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No. 116074 ID: 395c02

>>116065
Maybe as a COMBO SPELL? Not with raw magic.
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No. 116075 ID: 45b653
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116075

I'm just saying that it would be cool if Ceri could make dragon statues for the D-Day event. Made in different poses and placed in different places would spice up the party by making things more dragony (I made an example of one of the statues in a pose using one of your previous works).
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No. 116135 ID: a37ca0

>>116065
>>116075
Ceridwen master sculpter,If she gets that ability she could make an income making people custom stone statues. All she would need is to have an idea of what to turn into and have enough stone to make it.
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No. 116140 ID: 91ee5f

>>116135
She'd also need enough MP to be able to do that all day long, since it'd be a COMBO SPELL that uses more MP than normal spells.
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No. 116379 ID: 395c02

There might be some delays as I work on stuff. I'll get the next DR up as soon as possible!
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No. 116443 ID: 395c02

Next DR is FRIDAY, to give me a brief respite after so much work.
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No. 116447 ID: ae9b99

>>116443
Can we take the time to appreciate how much hard work you've done for this quest to entertain us?
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No. 116448 ID: 314bcd

>>116443

Seriously, you've earned this break. Thank you and Dylan for making this tale amazing as it's been so far!
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No. 116457 ID: 395c02

>>116447
Work started on Thursday and ended just after midnight 'today' (so I'd say it ended at tuesday because only 20 minutes of wednesday was involved)

actual man-hours is hard to calculate, but a very very rough guess of 6 hours per day for 6 days with two people would math up to (very) roughly 72 hours of work.
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No. 116458 ID: 100607

>>116457
I was going to ask about that. I saw the code and it definitely looks like a huge amount of work. Great job!
But I would advise against making a habit out of it because it doesn't look like it would be worth the time investment. The readers don't actually need all the exploration and interaction options (which also end up being mostly inconsequential).

Anyway, very funny update. The stuff about spaghetti and Ceri wanting to watch the pair of lizards making out almost made me choke on my own saliva! But I'm glad to see that Ceri is finally able to do some to do some of the exhibitionism that she longed for. Altho not in her original form, so there is still one layer that needs to go...

I'm a bit confused over what happened with the barrier. Why was it there if it was just a storage room? And what happened in the blackout. The mystery continues!
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No. 116459 ID: 6cd244

>>116458
It sounds like a lot of the time investment was in getting the engine and stuff to work properly (and doing the art for the game in the same update as all those animations), so maybe any future games might have a lot more content or gameplay compared to the amount of effort put in, now that they know what they're doing?

As for the interaction options, for me the character interactions are the most enjoyable part of the quest, so getting to go around and have fun little conversations makes the game really worthwhile to me. Though maybe if you do this stuff in the future there might be more benefit to having more recurring characters to talk to, so you can have a conversation and learn about a character who you'll ever actually see again, rather than just a gag character.
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No. 116460 ID: 100607
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116460

Also, there's nothing behind the guards :P
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No. 116461 ID: 91ee5f

>>116460
https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=3OAvdfwCgwA
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No. 116462 ID: 314bcd

This is such a good chance to see Ceri be squeamish and submissive if she decides to run through the mall without the lights on.
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No. 116464 ID: b0c52e
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116464

>>116460
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No. 116506 ID: 3ce125

Man that seal took a beating from the energy overload. It had to dig in real deep to stay in place...
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No. 116507 ID: 6cd244

>>116506
I'm looking forward to the inevitable scene where a glowing dragon head bursts out of the stat screen.
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No. 116508 ID: 91ee5f

>>116507
So you want Ceri to lose control of her inner dragon and possibly go on a rampage? And then have to be put under the Enslavement Ritual in order to stop her from possibly killing someone?

Shame on you for wanting that to happen!
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No. 116510 ID: d72eab
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116510

oh rit!
for those that were interested
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No. 116512 ID: 314bcd

I think satiating Ceri's inner child wanting one last hoorahdventure by guiding the mission through completion might be the best thing we can do for her at the moment. Once Inner Child feels satisfied for pulling this stunt, Ceri may remember this day for the rest of the two weeks as a reason to not try something like this again for a while.

Pluuus, she's still not detected in her normal form, either by guards or other people around, it can still be kept going.
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No. 116548 ID: ae9b99

I noticed on camera #3, the time said 4:26pm. on camera #4, it says 4:43pm. Ceri has been watching those two go at it for about 17 minutes
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No. 116565 ID: 395c02

A stomach bug combined with increasing levels of burnout have taken a combined toll on me. I'm going to delay the next DR until WEDNESDAY, and then try to limp my way to the finish line.

(probably no more silly gimmicks that take a long time to make for a bit <:x)
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No. 116577 ID: 3ce125

It occurs to me the seal is strikingly similar to the D-Counter from Dragon Quarter.
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No. 116578 ID: 3abd97

>>116577
I'm pretty sure if we had to counter it with new game pluses the way you do in Dragon Quarter that would kill Slinko.
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No. 116579 ID: 91ee5f

>>116578
Please don't kill Slinko! D-':>
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No. 116585 ID: 165253

>>116565
Take your time Slinko we'll wait. Your health and is more important.
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No. 116586 ID: 0a47d8

I just finished reading through Tezakia Quest, and I don't know which (Slinko)quest to read next, and I'm relatively new here, so any advice is appreciated. Dragon Romance is what got me into Tgchan in the first place, so major thanks to Slinko.

(Also, if this is not the right place to ask this, please tell me; I don't know better)
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No. 116587 ID: be0718

>>116586
Jiniki's Journey is the immediate sequel (rip the Jiniki spoiler), and Tezakia Slumber Party is next, and that's it for Tezakia's chronology as far as I know.
The Creator is the first Slinkoquest I read, so that's another one to try.
There's other authors I'd recommend too but this was about Slinko's quests specifically, right? So... Boatface.
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No. 116588 ID: 395c02

>>116586
>>116587
After Tezakia Slumber party is Tezakian holiday, which pretty much ties a pretty little bow on the Tezakia story (...for now...).

There's also Creator and Slissa Quest to ponder!

And... uh, maybe skim "Venji Quest" to get a basic idea of what's going on there, then it goes Boatface adventures -> retcon quest

I'm glad you've enjoyed things so far~
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No. 116589 ID: 100607

Time for some DR statistics! Yay! Disclaimer: These statistics may or may not be accurate and may or may not provide any useful info about the artist, the quest, or anything at all. Use at your own discretion.
Days - Total amount of days the thread ran for; the date difference between the first and the last update. I also ignored one 14-day break in thread 3. Upd - Total amount of updates made. Updates consisting of a single image were ignored. Instead, I altogether counted them as 1 extra update. Imgs - Total amount of images that were part of updates. Standalone images were ignored. Sugs - Total amount of posts that were suggestions. And not part of updates. Img/Upd - Average images per update. Sug/Upd - Average suggestions per update. Day/Upd - Average days per update. Sug/Day - Average suggestions per day. |Days |Upd|Imgs|Sugs|Img/Upd|Sug/Upd|Day/Upd|Sug/Day -------+-----+---+----+----+-------+-------+-------+------- Thread1| 75.9| 28| 140| 899| 5.00| 32.11| 2.71| 11.85 Thread2|120.0| 43| 219|1546| 5.09| 35.95| 2.79| 12.89 Thread3|111.0| 38| 176|1064| 4.63| 28.00| 2.92| 9.59 Thread4|107.0| 45| 212|1127| 4.71| 25.04| 2.38| 10.53 Thread5|109.5| 40| 218|1108| 5.45| 27.70| 2.74| 10.12 -------+-----+---+----+----+-------+-------+-------+------- Total |525.3|194| 965|5744| 4.97| 29.61| 2.71| 10.93
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No. 116602 ID: 0a47d8

>>116587
>>116588
Thanks for the input! I think I'm going to go with The Creator for now.
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No. 116632 ID: f0e552

>>116588
imo you should definitely focus on slissa quest after DR.

However, obviously it's pretty hard to 'end' a thing like DR. What if you focused on doing things in like 'seasons'. For example, season 1 of DR ends when our biggest character arc is finished (prince chei) and then you focus on a 'season' of slissa? Just a thought.
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No. 116636 ID: 2fe26a
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116636

>>/quest/836179
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No. 116643 ID: 395c02

>>116632
A decent idea in a vaccuum, but DR is a patreon quest so it has to consistently update until it ends. taking the occasional break to squeeze in the 'free' quests is about the best I can do without feeling really... I dunno.

That said, DR has 2 'acts' or 'parts', and there may be an extended break between those where I'll possibly do a huge chunk of SQ
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No. 116719 ID: b9b4da

You know, for someone with such enormous "venom sacs" Ceri sure talks a lot of shit about mammals.
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No. 116720 ID: 33b7e7

>>116719

I guess she feels some resentment that even though she's not a mammal, and wasn't raised by mammals, and therefore doesn't feel that mammal culture is her own, she still gets held to the rules and standards they are?
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No. 116722 ID: 100607

I didn't find the thread 5 ending all that interesting. While it was somewhat funny, nothing special happened as a result of Skif/Gulketi being naked and I feel it would've been entirely the same if they weren't. Ceri got some sex with Skif, but that was predictable and it was neither romantic nor were there any shenanigans involved as they were alone on the roof.

I'm not blaming Slinko. He worked hard to set up a nice situation, but the readers simply voted to avoid the conflict. This ability to just portal away at any time something goes wrong. Something needs to be done about it. Even invisibility isn't this broken.
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No. 116724 ID: 4854ef

>>116722
The constant, layered on guilt trips throughout both by Ceri and the Voters really did not help with things at all.
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No. 116729 ID: 6cd244

>>116724
I think, at least from Ceri's side, this is a sort of pitfall I see a lot in quests where there's a relatively short period of time that's being played out over months of real-world time. So in both writing and suggesting, you feel like there's been a long time between updates, even when they're right next to each other. It means you run the risk of unnaturally rapid tone shifts, which there was perhaps a bit much of here.
>>116722
As for the situation itself, while I don't think the ease of avoiding trouble was exactly a problem - this whole thing was clearly just Ceri basically roleplaying a lewd adventure and pretending there was more danger than there was. However, many of the readers sort of had reason to so strongly oppose going too far with the running around naked stuff. While the suggestions were probably getting a little too worked up over risks that were pretty obviously not going to come about during the silly fun adventure, it's probably a sign that the quest's a little unclear about which things are intended to be taken seriously as traps with consequences, and which things are just there for fun and comedy. Those suggesters were probably worried that the running around the mall could lead to the same sort of consequences that the earlier events with Daatra had. It's perhaps a little difficult to tell when you can suggest poor choices to get something fun to happen, or when voting to make something bad happen will actually make something really bad happen.

I'm certainly enjoying the quest, but these are probably all things that Slinko should keep in mind in the future, as it seems like the story is heading towards being more plot-focused.
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No. 116731 ID: 4854ef

>>116729
Even then it hasn't even been a day and people are constantly worrying about Daatra. It's as if people wanted to focus entirely on her to the point where it seems less compassionate to the issues she's facing and more desperation to keep a friend even when she's not even there to the point of hyperfocusing on it.

People are also going to have to understand that Ceri does have power that Daatra is never going to have, and if Daatra isn't able to cope with that. That's not on Ceri to deal with, that's part of who she is and it's on Daatra to deal with and people don't seem to understand such and believe that Ceri has to do something about it.
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No. 116734 ID: 416762

>>116731
In the quest it's been a few hours, but IRL it's been two months. The quest-time and real-time dissonance is weird sometimes.
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No. 116738 ID: 4854ef

It happens, something that can't be really avoided.
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No. 116741 ID: 395c02

This 'mallventure' was the most difficult segment of my questing career. If the ending was disappointing, it's because my desire to end the thread actually surpassed my desire to entertain. My 'raw determination', the one bit of pride I willingly share, started showing cracks larger than the ones in Ceri's seal. I honestly, legitimately didn't have it in me do even 1 more update.

I don't think I executed the second half of thread 5 very well. But, I think it became a very important segment. Maybe not to the story itself, but to me personally. It was, in a way, a battle against myself. My desire to tell a compelling story vs a flawed assumption. If it felt a bit all over the place, that's because I was having the same struggle Ceri was.


....


I've a lot to think about before doing thread 6. The response to Ceri's dialog with Siphon proved I was wrong. More importantly, it showed I can't keep letting fears that people will lose interest cause me to fumble. Doing so will only further hurt the tone and flow of the story.

I have pretty big plans for DR. Plans I firmly believe are worth doing, and they're worth doing right. We're past the point where I can wing it and assume future me will figure something out. It's time to start staying focused, rather than letting any ol' random thing happen because oh god gotta jokes gotta sex.

If this causes people to lose interest, if I'm simply not good enough... fine.

At least there will be no saying I didn't try to tell the story I feel Ceri deserves.



But that's for later. For now, there's a far greater challenge: bringing back the quest broke me in the first place. The very quest DR 'revived' me from, its failure having eroded my 'determination' to nothing.


...Slissa Quest comes back early November.
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No. 116742 ID: 100607

>If the ending was disappointing
It wasn't disappointing in any way, but it wasn't as epic as it could've been. As I said, I blame the suggesters.

>We're past the point where I can wing it
Not sure what you mean with this. You're always going to have to wing one thing or another because that's how quests are. Actually, I'd say winging stuff is one of your strong points because you do it so well. I can hardly tell what was planned and what wasn't.
...
If there ever was such a thing. Plans in quests can be made/changed at any time and in any amount. It's not like you're writing the quest in real time.

>I'm simply not good enough
In my opinion, the thread was excellent, well-rounded and I see no problem it being this long. If you think about it, the mall itself is a very large place with a ton of characters. I would compare it to exploring a whole city and interacting with all the characters in there. More work was put in it than any previous thread (plus the game) and the quality of art and writing was also top-notch.
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No. 116758 ID: 27600a

>>116741
> I can't keep letting fears that people will lose interest cause me to fumble.
It's hard to do, I have tons of respect for quest authors because I don't know if I could handle this exact issue well. It's natural not to want to disappoint or fail to interest the suggestors that have enjoyed your work, but it's not good for you to do only do some things out of fear that they'll turn on you.

Hang in there! Some of us are along for the ride whether that means wholesome feelgood adorableness, sad existential worry, goofy hilarity, lewdness or epic mystery and adventure.
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No. 116764 ID: f0e552

>>116741
was slissa quest really a 'failure'? I don't think so.
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No. 116772 ID: 314bcd

>>116741

You managed well with what you had to work with. I just want to say that: personally?

>I have pretty big plans for DR. Plans I firmly believe are worth doing, and they're worth doing right.
Hearing that you're planning awesome things of your own has me extremely excited to see what you want us to see. Just like what >>116758 said, I can't even imagine myself being able to handle such a situation, let alone in the ways you're able to.

You are excellent at this format of story-telling, and I will always be thankful that creators like you have found a place in giving my life more stories to keep living for.

We'll be waiting to see what you have in store for us!
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No. 116791 ID: 395c02

I really appreciate the kind words. I think mostly I'm just worn out a bit, which a rest period will clear right up. Thread 5 didn't do what it meant to, but I did the best I could and maybe that's good enough.
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No. 116851 ID: 8c51fa

>>116741
I really don't want to be a downer when you're already under so much stress, but I don't think it was worth anything that went into it. That whole trip through the mall was a mess from start to finish. It was like we were constantly being told to enjoy it while Ceridwen's situation kept getting worse, and worse, and worse. It didn't even seem like Ceri was enjoying it; it was like she was being forced to do it and was struggling between rationalizing her actions and trying to break free. She just stopped caring about anything other than her latest wacky sexcapades, no matter how important they were to her before, to the point where she couldn't even think straight by the end of it. We were told to stop worrying because the stakes would get lower, immediately before the stakes got higher than they had ever been before. The readers were told, repeatedly, that if they had any worries about the way things were going they should shut up because their words won't make a difference, but apparently they would have made a difference and were vitally important to Ceri's well-being. There were mixed messages all over the place that made the experience feel very uncomfortable, like something was trying to make Ceri (and us) think that there's nothing to worry about while everything falls apart around her.

The consequences it could have on Ceridwen's life are bad enough, but what it implies for her mental state is worse. It's gotten to the point that Dragon Romance just doesn't work as a lighthearted erotic adventure comedy now. It's turned into a story about how a bright, hopeful young woman with a promising future has her life torn apart by addiction and mental illness.
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No. 116857 ID: a254b4

>>116851
the first half of your first sentence is maybe the least honest thing I've ever seen anyone post on this website
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No. 116858 ID: 100607

>>116851
In my opinion, it went well, there was no mess, things were not getting worse and worse, and nothing was falling apart. I think the reason why you feel the way you do is because you're being overprotective of Ceri. DR was supposed to be a light-hearted adventure, but it can't be that way if the suggesters are worrying over every little thing all the time (I imagine that we're gonna be seeing more and more of this the longer the quest runs), even after Ceri telling them not to worry. And then something unexpected happens, and you're all like TOLD YOU SO, WE SHOULD'VE BEEN MORE CAREFUL. No, unexpected things happening, plus dramatic moments here and there, have nothing to do with it and it doesn't mean that DR is suddenly super serious and that things are falling apart.
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No. 116859 ID: a254b4

>>116857
actually reading your post more carefully it's hard to read it as anything other than an attempt to guilt trip a quest author for not doing what you wanted them to

like,
>It's gotten to the point that Dragon Romance just doesn't work as a lighthearted erotic adventure comedy now. It's turned into a story about how a bright, hopeful young woman with a promising future has her life torn apart by addiction and mental illness.
are you serious with this right now?
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No. 116861 ID: 0c84a3

>>116851
you're joking right? it was pretty obvious that the her moments of being serious were only there to try and placate the overly stubborn audience.
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No. 116862 ID: 27600a

>>116851
I'm fairly certain it's comments like that where people overanalyse and demand serious consequences to lighthearted actions that caused the worries in the first place. Of course that would cause the work's author to stress out about the nature of the story they were telling. We probably have just as many suggestors who care primarily on the lewd aspects of the story and don't care/think about any consequences, but it's better than killing the joy for all included when the response to basically any 'imperfect' action is
"You fucked up! see everyone!? This is damaging to Ceri and/or everyone around her! Even if it hasn't been shown yet I NKOW this has ruined things right now and probably further down the line too, I hope Ceri (who am i kidding I just mean Slinko) and all the suggestors that led to this action feels bad about themselves."

You might not be one of those people I'm talking about, just someone who has read the results of their interference and come to think in similar terms, but either way
>The consequences it could have on Ceridwen's life are bad enough, but what it implies for her mental state is worse. It's turned into a story about how a bright, hopeful young woman with a promising future has her life torn apart by addiction and mental illness.
No dude you don't get to tell the author what their story is about or how their character is feeling, especially not moments after reading that most of the tone issues came from the Author's worries and struggles, not the fictional character's.
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No. 116863 ID: d0bba6

>>116851
Sick b8 m8 no h8 I r8 8/8
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No. 116873 ID: 8c51fa

>someone feels that the quest isn't succeeding at what it tries to be
>immediate rage
...

I was afraid to voice any concerns earlier because it seemed like Slinko was basically threatening people at that point to keep them quiet. I was trying to keep things "in character" because helping Ceri work through her issues seemed like it would be safer and more productive than just talking about them, but this meant compromising between explaining what I was concerned about and phrasing it in such a way that Ceri could think about it comfortably, both of which got more difficult the longer things went on. There's a lot of stuff I've been wanting to say about the quest for a long while now and I didn't know when or how to say it all.

I can tell what kind of quest you're trying to write here (I think). I like what the quest wants to be and I'd be happy if you succeeded, But the way it's been going seems to be actively working against itself. Sometimes it seems outright deceptive. I mean, what impression are we supposed to get when Ceri is reassured that she doesn't have to worry anymore and then immediately gets led into a trap that severely hurts her? Or says that she's feeling emotionally drained and wants to get things over with, before telling herself that she can't stop and that she needs to keep going? Or keeps telling herself "NO CONSEQUENCES" while the consequences are happening to her?

I could probably go on, but I hope I managed to get my point across without leaning too heavily. There's been these looming threats to Ceridwen's well-being for quite a while now that are present even during casual events, but now it's like we can't trust that something will be safe even if we're specifically told it is. I know that's not really the impression you're trying to give off, and I completely understand why this has been so difficult and mentally exhausting for you, but... that's how things have gone.
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No. 116879 ID: 27600a

>>116873
Well we're here, you might as well say everything since that's what the disthreads are for, plus it might get your point across better, I know that this one did.
The points you've raised are valid and are indeed what Slinko was talking about with >>116741 but when you spoke up in the previous comment it honestly looks like you had just ignored what Slinko had said explaining the problem and that it was making them unhappy too, it doesn't make sense that you'd seen acknowledgement of the problem and still decided to heap on some salt on that wound.

And big chunk of the problem seems to be the assumption people were only in it for lewd and humor and NOTHING ELSE, don't go too many updates without some sexytimes or jokes lest we abandon you. Add in some people reading too much into stuff and making big, tone inappropriate suggestions of consequence, shouting essentially at Ceri that there will be horrible consequences, she should just feel awful for doing the thing and other nonsense.
Like >>837212 starts out hopeful enough then jumps to accusing her of racial tyranny. As if it makes in-quest or meta sense that such a thing would ever come to pass. They need to stop injecting darkness and drama where it's not needed. The poor girl already has an identity crisis on top of the knowledge she's likely to go nuclear at some point to deal with, acting like the world is going to serve up brutal consequences in response to a joke isn't needed.
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No. 116880 ID: fe7355

>>116879
Nothing to add, I just wanted to point out you wrote your link to the quest post wrong and it's not working. It should be >>/questarch/837212. Gotta add in the board name if the link target is on a different board for it to work.
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No. 116881 ID: 314bcd

>>116879

This may not mean much for being only one of many, but my favorite updates personally are all the heartfelt/generally chill ones. Whenever they come up against the expectations of a NSFW quest, they stand out in good ways and become some of the most memorable portions of the quest for me.

To name some examples: the recent heart-to-heart between Ceri and Siphon, and Ceri and Skif talking in the first 2 panels when Euia leaves after gaining the aquatic form.

this could be because of the things I watch/read for my entertainment though, but man it's because of it all that Dragon Romance syncs up so much with what I enjoy

I might be weird, I dunno.
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No. 116885 ID: a363ac

>>116873
I have a question for you. What specifically would you say the consequences of the mall-venture are?
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No. 116887 ID: 4854ef

>>116879
Oh hey someone linked a thing I wrote. It was the end of the thread, where the posts don't really matter anymore so I wrote something dark because it seemed like everyone else was desiring things to go fully dark given how often everyone was trying to guilt trip her into feeling depressed over Daatra or feel bad about her funtime mall venture. So why not add something else to there as well when it doesn't matter anymore?

I much prefer the light hearted nature of the quest with some drama but I suppose I was letting myself see too much of that who kept trying to introduce it into it and seeing it affect Ceri while at the same time trying to guilt others into posting against it while passive-aggressive posting.

I wasn't being serious with that dark filled post honestly, even if it's been a slight theme that Ceri seems slightly mammal culture racist. I don't believe that the Mammal's are going to be run out of town because Ceri gets a few people naked once in a while since I need to clarify such. :P
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No. 116889 ID: 27600a

>>116880
Ah, cool I didn't know that.

>>116881
I'm pretty sure the majority of us were/are on board with how DR had been going and were happy with what Slinko was doing. But as pointed out by a few people, some of the suggestions seemed to either be expecting or demanding quite grimdark consequences to stuff going on in the quest. It still makes no sense to me, what part of what had come before implied this was that kind of quest. Ceri had problems and drama, but they were rather clearly shown to be the exception rather than the rule, nevermind they tended to have heartwarming resolutions or promises to try and overcome them.

>>116887
Hey there, I entirely get where you're coming from, you've managed to put it better then me by actually having decent examples on hand.
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No. 116895 ID: 5bcb07

>>116873
I think the reason people were angry was not because you disagreed with the direction of the quest, but because you seemed to be bashing Slinko. Whatever your opinions on the quest are, we should all respect the time and effort that Slinko has put in to bring it to this point. If that's not what you meant in post, I would encourage you to think more carefully about the tone of your writing in the future

I should probably stop beating the dead horse :P
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No. 116924 ID: 8c51fa

Putting the meta drama in spoiler tags because it doesn't need to bother people here.

>>116879
I know he wasn't satisfied with how the thread turned out and I thought it would be helpful to clarify some of the specific reasons why I thought it didn't go well. The reason I didn't just go and post several pages' worth of text with no prompting is because I thought it would be rude to post several pages' worth of text with no prompting. I was hoping that I'd get the chance to elaborate on my thoughts when he was interested in hearing them, without creating a huge mess by saying everything at once. It seemed like a better option than filling the thread with a sudden flood of negativity, even if that pretty much ended up happening anyway.

I wasn't trying to attack anyone, and I apologize to Slinko if I said anything that came off that way. I didn't intend any of it to be interpreted so maliciously.


Hopefully that's enough to settle the hostility down.

I wouldn't say that the reason bad things happen is that people are making them happen by "demanding" them because they want to ruin the story. The people who are concerned that events might go poorly aren't just misinterpreting the quest or seeing things that couldn't be there. It's had a serious side to it all along. A lot of it has been easygoing and fun, sure, but ultimately the core focus of the quest has been Ceridwen's life, her relationships, her growth, and how she feels about it all. Almost everything that's happened has had an effect of Ceri and her friends, for good or ill; there's usually been (or meant to be) some internal logic behind what happens and its effect on Ceri's psyche, and it's been established that some things could have gone much worse if different decisions had been made. It's true that there's been more serious and dramatic moments as things went on, but that's just part of growing up.

So if people say "that's probably going to end badly, it isn't a good decision" it's not fair to blame them for "corrupting" the quest into something it should never have been. Those elements have been around all along, and that's why people care.
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No. 116925 ID: 27600a

>>116924
There are serious elements yes, nobody has a problem with that, they're generally brilliant. Nor does anyone have an issue with worrying about serious consequences, the problem comes up when people seem convinced that the problems and consequences are MUCH darker than makes any sense for the Quest.

During the last thread there seemed to be pushes to make Ceri become depressed over certain choices, or accuse her of some problem or other if she wasn't, it made no sense. It's good to care enough to take such things into consideration but try to also take the general tone and flow of the quest into consideration before such a suggestion is made.
Ceri making a 'bad' choice isn't likely to be 'punished' with horrible, unfixable, lasting consequences. There are likely to be consequences, and it'll be a problem she has to deal with but it is something that can be worked through with some effort and become a source of positive growth. I think most quest authors are generally really good at handling that aspect of quests.
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No. 116926 ID: 395c02

Hi, I got sick for a bit and am still kinda sick but wanted to check in to see what you guys were up t--

o h . . .

I don't feel like responding to all that point by point, but I'll say a bunch of words that are probably related.

I probably said it earlier, but the best I could figure for thread 4's poor numbers (at the time I didn't know 3 also suffered) was that people didn't like it getting too serious. It felt like the people who were in it for the plot left because of the orgy (a scene with its own stresses which is a story for another time) and all that remained were people wanting the Lewds.

With that in mind, thread 5 was intended to be much, much lighter. Ceri's parents were mad at her, but the weight of the scene was greatly reduced to maintain a lighter tone.

The scene with Daatra broke everything. She's not intended to be romanced, and either my warnings were poor or people chose to ignore them. I suddenly had to choose between story and the lighthearted fun I assumed everyone actually wanted.

I think Story won in the end, so DR6 might take things a little more seriously than DR5 tried to. But, I don't intend to invoke Cerebus Syndrome.

And... sorry, but there's no way to explain this without a mild callout. I do not want what happened to Coxwette happening to DR. I don't want paranoia and fear being so strong that Ceri never has sex again. I don't want people arguing over this and that. This is a patreon quest. Sex will always be on the table. Even if I do want to put more focus on the story, there are things that absolutely have to happen because real people pay real money for this quest and the things within. Assuming you remember to be submissive until Ilan returns, it will always be safe for Ceri to have sex with Skif, Gulketi, Siphon, Eezeryh, and eventually a couple newcomers. Everyone else will depend on the situation and who they are. Go after Myra or Sheriim (dad) at your own risk.

The mall adventure was meant to introduce a patreon character, in fact. But the owner pulled out at the last moment. We did get a cameo in the minigame, at least, someone we will see again soon...


Now, back to the heart of the matter.

Yelling at Ceri for Mallventure had 3 possible paths:

The path where I try to placate everyone and have fun (what we saw)

The path where Ceri ignores complainers and mallventures anyway

The path where Ceri agrees with complainers and exits the mall via PORTAL



The first two are easy. one we saw, and one would be what we saw except people are more angry and frustrated and we miss out on some nice Siphon development. It's the third one where actual thought is required. Because it's a quest, I can't say for sure what would have happened, but I will venture this guess:

Ceri portals outside. Likely people would want here to re-enter the mall in Daatra's outfit. Ceri might have still felt guilty about wearing it. She might have turned into something using the last blip of her MP. In whatever form that'd be, she'd go back into the mall, where she'd try to find gulketi. This path would have her see more stores, but overall nothing interesting would happen... unless...

Let's assume people are just as laser-focused on SECRETS in this timeline. Siphon would have likely met her and given her a map in this timeline too (albeit of the mall and not the vent system). Ceri would go there and touch it. That consequence would likely have happened in this timeline too. Since mallventure was canceled, I bet there'd have been a much larger push for her to poke/lick it, since those people who got snuffed would really want to have something happen.

There'd be no minigame, as it was pretty clear we didn't have the time/energy to do the entire mall (as would be required in this timeline). Instead, she'd end up at EYE CREAM. Gulketi would likely be there. Maybe they do a tiny bit together, but I was tired either way so the thread would end very soon after they meet up.


In the scope of this thread, mallventure didn't hurt anything that wasn't already hurt by a plainly wrong decision with Daatra, and a choice I believe would have been made either way. Not to imply portal touch was inevitable, but from what I know of suggester trends, it seems equally likely in this timeline.

In the grand scheme, it did affect some things, since the whole nudity parade happened at the end. But even if that ends up being a negative, it's a negative that will deepen the story and help flesh out the world. Even consequences have their upsides.


And I was not intending to threaten people. Ceri chose to start ignoring dissenting comments because had she not, I'd still be doing thread 5 right now as she'd have taken time out of every single update to argue with herself. If you weren't going "ok fiiine" after Siphon literally made it easy mode, it was only going to hurt the story to try and continue like that.
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No. 116927 ID: e67428

>The scene with Daatra broke everything. She's not intended to be romanced, and either my warnings were poor or people chose to ignore them.

I think the scene with Daatra was really the source of all these issues. Reading this quest from the beginning, I've never once gotten the impression that Daatra isn't supposed to be a romance option. She's teased Ceri and been teased, she's been presented as potentially in the running as an option, and her romance with her boyfriend doesn't stand strongly as an obstacle considering that polyamory has been presented as relatively common among the sample size of couple we have. I wouldn't have voted/suggested that Ceri make a move on Daatra behind her boyfriend's back (and I didn't), but the assumption that, for example, we could have romanced her if we hadn't chosen to set her up with someone else, seems an entirely reasonable one.

In quests, what the characters say or think is often not the biggest consideration when the suggesters try to interpret what they're "allowed" to do or what's a good idea, because they're unreliable: I like Ceri a lot but, she's not been presented as always having good judgement. She's made misunderstandings and has demonstrated herself as capable of both hesitation and impetuousness. Carrot and stick is a much bigger influence: if the suggesters choose to do something and the consequence is something they perceive as a reward, they'll do that thing more in the future, and if they choose something and get something they perceive as a punishment, they'll avoid doing that in the future. The fact that we got that egg-laying scene, as well as the general sense of tension and teasing, probably indicated to most readers that lewds with Daatra were being presented as a legitimate option. Then, when they happened and the result was Daatra and Ceri's distress, the message that got received was "lewd actions can have bad consequences", and a lot of people were put on guard for the rest of the quest.

As a quest author, how you choose to reward or punish is a powerful tool in guiding the suggesters, and you have to be aware of it even if you aren't intending its use. When something punishing happens, you have to be very clear on what exactly was being punished so that people don't get the wrong idea about what they're "allowed" to do, and you have to watch out for when something might seem like a reward or punishment but isn't.

You also have to be willing to take the reigns sometimes. A lot of quest authors worry about how much choice they provide, and feel like if enough people want something they have to allow it (this might be worse in a patreon quest, where some people are paying). That's not always wise, though, and sometimes you should bend things to block off certain options. Both Daatra and Ceri are established characters with their own personalities and wills and could have put their foot down and forbade what happened between them, or some random event could have interrupted and put them back to their senses, et cetera.

Now, that said! I personally didn't have any problem with the thread.

I thought it was all entirely believable! I put in a long post (>>/questarch/831447) about why she and Daatra ended up in the situation they got in and why Ceri was acting the way she was. tl;dr Daatra had her reasons and Ceri had her reasons and they weren't rational reasons but they were powerful emotionally, and then Ceri's reaction and mood for the rest of the quest (going and trying to have a fun adventure to distract herself while being haunted by uncomfortable thoughts and worries that she had to keep trying to put away because there was nothing she could do to resolve them at that time) seemed totally appropriate to a young woman of her established personality type.

Seemed like pretty compelling stuff, to me!
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No. 116928 ID: 395c02

>>116927
A big reason I don't like talking directly about the 'meta' is that a lot of the meta stuff gets turned into story stuff and it breaks the 'magic' a bit to peer behind the curtain.

The hints for Daatra weren't great, because for a big chunk of thread 5 I was dealing with the Adderall Crisis. From egg-laying to Ketza-sucking, my brain was, at best, 50% of what it is on the medicine. After being on medication, going without felt like my wings were clipped and I was wading through mental molasses.

It's honestly a small miracle we got this far, considering the insane handicaps DR has had to deal with at various times.
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No. 116932 ID: 4854ef

Can we please not do that again.. That was a common theme of the Coxwette fight in that the people failed the quest author.

That's not something that happens, choices happen and that doesn't mean you failed at anything. Events happen in quests, good events and bad events.

Thinking that you failed because of some arbitrary choice is just.. self-flagellating.
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No. 116933 ID: 314bcd

>>116932

You're right, I shouldn't be so down on myself for such events like that.
um, i'll just remove my old post so I don't accidentally start more things, i'm deeply sorry
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No. 116934 ID: e67428

The nature of questing is one in which sometimes the author just won't be able to salvage a bunch of weird choices, and the quest will have to go through a weird awkward phase. It can be minimized, you can keep something in reserve to break it up, and you should always try to make something out of what you've got, but sometimes things just get kind of off for a while.
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No. 116938 ID: 314bcd

>>116934

This sounds reasonable, and again, thread 5 did well with everything.
I again apologize for anybody that saw my old post, I feel better about myself now hearing good points
We'll make the best out of everything that happened!
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No. 116943 ID: 395c02

>>116932
I didn't mean to imply anything about it, just that I really don't want it to happen to DR if possible.

>>116934
In the past I had a pretty good grasp of what the suggestors generally would go for, but DR has a larger audience and that might also be throwing me off a bit.

In that way, SQ might be a breath of fresh air :X

Anyway, we should probably not waste any more time worrying about thread 5. There's way cooler things waiting for us in the future.
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No. 116944 ID: 4854ef

>>116943
My apologies it wasn't actually referring to your post in question, but a now deleted post that basically was "I failed this quest".
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No. 116945 ID: 27600a

>>116943
Yes! on the horizon, a great speeping can be heard.
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No. 116961 ID: 8c51fa

>>116881
I agree, the emotional moments are very nice. The whole quest benefits a lot from how well we get to know the characters. The sex scenes are great too, partially for the same reason (and partially for more obvious reasons); we've always gotten a good look at Ceridwen's own feelings about them, which does a great job of making them feel authentic. The first scene between Ceri and Skif with them discovering their sexuality for the first time together was wonderful.

It was disappointing that the current thread ended before Ceri got together with Skif again. She's been looking forward to it for quite a while and it would have been the first wholly positive sexual experience she's had all day. It's entirely understandable why the author wanted to end the thread when he did, but when Dragon Romance comes back I hope we get to go through that scene (Thread 5.5?) rather than skipping over it.

On the subject of potential reluctance around sexual things in the future, it's true that it's a central part of the quest that isn't supposed to be a "trap option", and I personally hope it doesn't go away. However, for people to feel safe with sexual choices, the choices have to be safe. Whenever it causes problems, it was because it was offered at the expense of something very important to Ceri. It's understandable for there to be some concern with the ways Ceri's own libido has hurt her or the number of otherwise important things she's disregarded for sex. If the in-story logic doesn't imply there will be any danger (i.e. not just meta knowledge that apparent dangers aren't "really" there) then this won't be a problem, but a broken promise of safety will just put people on edge again.

Basically, Ceridwen's sexuality won't be a problem if it doesn't come at the expense of something else important. It's a central part of the quest, so it should work with her rather than against her. That will help people feel comfortable with it.

I know we're currently in the middle of putting Dragon Romance "on hold" to shift to another quest, but I felt that this was worth saying. There's a dozen other things I could say about a dozen other things about the quest, but it's not the time for that.
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No. 117123 ID: 3ce125

I have an idea that could really help:

Decide on a tone for the quest and stick with that tone. If an action would cause enough drama or negative consequences to depart from the tone of the quest and you can't think of an alternative set of consequences, then don't include that action as an option. Ceri should be smart enough to know when doing something would turn out badly, even while super horny. That was kindof the point of having a cap on her tilde bar anyway!
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No. 117129 ID: 33d4be

>>117123

You can't have just a single tone for a story, that's like one of the basics of writing! You need up moments, down moments, tension and release from tension, and a bunch of other things all woven together. Writers thinking they need to stick with one tone has been the source of a lot of bad fiction.
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No. 117131 ID: 3ce125

>>117129
Counterargument: Cerberus Syndrome.
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No. 117133 ID: 3abd97

>>117131
That's not a counter argument, that's an example of what can go wrong when a specific tone starts to dominate a work at the expense of everything else.
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No. 117138 ID: 3ce125

>>117133
No, it's an example of when an established lighthearted/comedy work turns super dramatic and serious.

Do you really think "tone" only refers to individual scenes? Every work of fiction has an overall tone.
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No. 117145 ID: 395c02

An epiphany.

Boiling all the words said in this thread the past few weeks down to a single sentence...

DR5... no, DR in general has struggled because I've been too scared to tell the story I wanted to tell.

I'm too scared of this damned "Cerberus syndrome", as if a story getting more serious as it approaches its climax is some cardinal sin that ruins every story ever told.

No more. I'm done with all that.

DR is going to tell its story, a story we craft together, and if that story goes down a darker path for a while, so be it. This stopped being just about porn the moment you voted to see Ceri through her childhood.

I'm tired of beating myself up because of Venji's biggest 'what if?' question (what if I went with the plot I had, instead of making something else up when someone told me it was dumb?).

If you hate the story DR ends up telling, then it means I simply wasn't good enough.

But I'm telling that story now. I'm done being afraid. This goes for Slissa Quest, too. Better to be accused of Cerebus Syndrome than to let everything I put so much work into fall apart because I had to 'keep things light'.

If you want literally nothing but jokes, read whatever Venji's up to. Read everything I've had to do for the past 8 goddamn years.

For the rest, strap in. Because we're about to find out something important: If my plans are as fantastic as I feel they will be, or if I'm not cut out to be anything more than some half-rate comedy quest author.
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No. 117155 ID: 4854ef

While I am hoping the story to do well.. I can't say I agree with it potentially taking a darker turn. A light hearted story doesn't need to involve nothing but jokes or the lolrandom nature of some quests.

I believe my main fear is that once the syndrome starts to hit, as it showed thanks to Daatra is that the other posters will start pushing for it harder, that some posters will attempt guilt trips in order to push their way that will "help" the situation as they see fit or will attempt to make all situations darker even if it's meant to be good natured.
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No. 117156 ID: c88e6d

>>117145
Um. I'm sorry you felt that way. I hope I've never done anything to promote that anxiety. I'm sure whatever story you tell will be exciting and interesting.
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No. 117158 ID: 395c02

>>117155
DR's tone wasn't meant to be 100% 'light and happy'. It's meant to have some serious and darker moments. This has been true ever since the quest was expanded in thread one. All my previous post is saying, really, is we're going back to what I intended, not what I started doing out of fear. That and I hope to be more consistent now that I'm sticking to this.

That said, DR is meant to have a consistent theme of optimism and hope. Even with Daatra, things can be mended. When things get bad, they can always get better.

As for your concerns about the suggestors... well, we've peered behind the curtain long enough, so I will offer this final piece of advice before leaving you guys to your own devices.

Hold on to that optimism. Never let Ceri lose sight of it. During the darkest times, it may be the greatest asset.

Don't let paranoia and fear take it away.
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No. 117160 ID: 66a4ca

>darkest times
You shouldn't have said that. Now everyone's gonna expect something dark to happen. In other words, everyone's gonna become paranoid hehe.
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No. 117161 ID: 395c02
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117161

>>117160
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No. 117163 ID: be0718

>>117145
No, you got it right the first time, it's Cerebus syndrome.
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No. 117165 ID: 395c02
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117165

>>117163
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No. 117172 ID: 33d4be

I know Cerebus Syndrome is often considered a bad thing, but lots of stories have benefited from it. When it does go bad, it's usually not the fact that things went serious in and of themselves, but that the seriousness ends up being bad quality, usually due to the author's lack of self-awareness. They might overestimate their art style's capacity for depicting serious moments or otherwise go beyond what them or their story can handle (loss.png), they might leave elements of the funny/silly times to intrude on serious scenes, they might make things too overwhelmingly serious all the time until it becomes tiresome and ridiculous, and they might... overemphasize certain things (Yes Dave Sim, creator of the titular Cerebus the Aardvark, you've had bad experiences with women, we get it).

DR had the setup for some serious stuff all along, so it should be fine. The main things you need to keep in mind are internal consistency (the ways Ceri has been allowed use her magic to facilitate comedy shouldn't disappear when they'd be useful for other things, for example), avoidance of mood whiplash (unless the whiplash effect is deliberately wanted in a specific scene), and perspective (just sitting back sometimes and asking "will my audience really take this the way I intend them to, in context?"), as well as the aforementioned effect things can have on what suggesters will suggest.
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No. 117204 ID: 8d4593

Hmm...
Interesting.

I feel like this will be fun, then.

Up to this point DR has felt as if it has had it's training wheels continually on.
It will be neat to see them come off.

But Slinko.
You do understand that if you do this...
We will become as horrible and unruly as we are for Coxwette...

Can... Can we get puppies this time?
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No. 117206 ID: 395c02
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117206

>>117204
I'm not too concerned about that happening.
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No. 117207 ID: 33d4be

Maybe you could give Ceri some sort of actual danger sense, so we get some blunt indicator of when it's time to chase lewds and when we have to be on guard. Like, maybe she gets a splinter from the drama tree, and it allows her to feel the presence of drama.
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No. 117210 ID: a363ac

no that is just borning
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No. 117211 ID: c2051e

>>117207
Maybe you could learn to do that on your own
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No. 117212 ID: 3abd97
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117212

>>117207
"Hey! This is a DRAMATIC moment! Be on guard, as DRAMA could occur!"
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No. 117215 ID: 3ce125

>>117145
Okay good. Just try not to encourage goofy suggestions too much, people tend to take that as a sign they don't need to take anything seriously.
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No. 117216 ID: c2051e

>>117215
Stop trying to tell other people how to have fun and grow a sense of humor.
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No. 117218 ID: be0718

Man I'm still waiting for that new boatface adventure to begin
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No. 117219 ID: 3ce125

>>117216
Wow, rude. Did I say goofy suggestions weren't funny?
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No. 117242 ID: 395c02

>>117218
The current plan is SQ thread 2 (likely to begin NOV 6), then DR thread 6, and then Retcon thread 2.

Retcon 2 is likely to be Venji's final adventure, and I've exciting things planned for it as well.

>>117215
I've no intention of telling people what to suggest or not suggest. DR is still meant to be full of silly and sexy times, and there will absolutely be times when a silly off-the-wall suggestion is just what we need.

I learned a lot from 5, so in future it should be much easier to grasp when it's time to be serious and when it's time to be as silly/sexy as possible.
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No. 117331 ID: 8c51fa

>>117145
>>117242
I think that a quest where things can be serious and dramatic sometimes is a good direction to take it. Ceridwen's character development is a big part of what makes it great. With the characters and setting you've established, I definitely support the idea of an overall serious storyline to do them justice.

That said, I don't think that the problems in thread 5 can be boiled down to something simple like trying to be too silly, or on the Daatra scene. To be more specific, one of the problems wasn't that the quest wasn't taking things seriously, but that things were serious and important but the quest was acting like they weren't. Or, to put it another way, the quest was simultaneously too serious to be silly and too silly to be serious; rather than reaching a good balance between serious and comedic elements, each of them was present in a way that undermined the other. It was clearly a dangerous situation where Very Bad Things could easily happen if it went wrong, but it only happened in the first place for the sake of silly fun, and was treated as such without reducing the danger.

But while that was a major source of dissonance in the thread, it's only one of the things that went wrong. There are several others that haven't been elaborated upon or mentioned yet. They're not things that can be simply left behind now that the thread has ended; over or not, it's still something that happened in the world and to the characters, and it will affect how they're perceived in the future. I can see why you wouldn't want to drag this on further, but I don't think that you should rush to end the conversation now. I think that there are still things worth saying, and now's the right time to say them, rather than waiting for weeks or months until they potentially come up in the middle of another thread.
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No. 117332 ID: 7dc051

>>117331
If you want to bring up more things you didn't like about the thread, you should do that instead of hinting at their existence.

Otherwise I don't know what you're trying to say.
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No. 117437 ID: 395c02
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117437

I've been thinking, and while I'd hate to shunt SQ yet again, it might behoove me to do DR6 next. Here's my thinking:

I want DR to be in a better place before pausing, with less talks of how much I screwed the pooch, and hopefully more talks of excitement for what will be DR7.

SQ was meant to be a break, since I was super worn out by DR5. But, not updating for a few weeks has actually been all the rest I needed!

DR5 didn't introduce patreon characters as intended. It feels like bad form to delay the quest while people continue to wait for their introductions. I want them in before pausing!

While I'm toning down SQ's overall scope, I still want it to have a very deep and fleshed out world. There's a lot of stuff I set up years ago that sorely need updating... and to do this, I need more time. DR6 would buy me that time.

SQ is going to be drawn in Clip Paint Studio, instead of SAI. I need time to get used to how wrongly differently it does stuff. The main reason to use it is that it has a good texture-pen tool, which lets SQ keep some of the same 'feel' as its predecessor. You can see this in action on the image!

The image is a concept for what SQ2 might look like (although it will be in color). A somewhat simpler, cuter, and more unique (for me) style instead of my normal style pushed to the absolute max. Easier to draw, stands out more, and makes Kliss more huggable??

Another reason to do DR6 next is to buy time for me to get this style looking just how I want it, with practice.


I'm very likely to go with this plan unless you guys have a compelling argument for doing SQ2 next instead. DR6 might begin on NOV 5, but might be pushed forward if I'm not as caught up on obligations as I'd like. I'll keep you posted!
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No. 117438 ID: ca0e20

>>117437
That's a nice style. Makes her look like she has volume instead of being a flat pic. Even while being just lineart!
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No. 117440 ID: f0e552

>>117437
I am surprised that you've managed to change your art style so much for SQ, it's almost unrecognizable for your style, which is crazy. Considering it looks a little more detailed, I'm surprised that it's somehow faster for you. The textures look nice too!
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No. 117441 ID: 314bcd

>>117437

Ooooh neat! The textures on the image remind me of storybooks, which is a really nice feel. Pairs really well with SQ.

I think it's a reasonable plan. Slissa Quest will have a fabulous return when you flesh out your ideas further!
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No. 117451 ID: 3ce125

The new Slissa design is adorable. Such big claws!
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No. 117520 ID: 5bcb07

>>117437
Just out of curiosity, why is SAI the standard?
To the uninitiated, it appears utterly ordinary.
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No. 117521 ID: bfb318

>>117520
I'm not Slinko, I'm here with my opinions anyway.

Sai has exceptional lineart smoothing options. It has better competition on this front these days (when SAI first came out, its smoothing was phenomenal by comparison to other software I'm aware of), but its smoothing is still a favorite, and also has more smoothing options than a single numerical scale like basically anything else.

It's also lightweight and has snappy responses compared to most other (often bloated) programs. It does lack a lot of nifty tools, but the tools it does have work well. Some people don't care for fancier tools anyway, or at least don't mind the additional step(s) to emulate fancy tools with basic functions.

In short, it is ordinary, but its ordinary elements are optimized and well designed.
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No. 117523 ID: 395c02

>>117520
>>117521
Even without the smoother, Sai's pen is just plain better than other programs I have tried. For a long while it also seemed to be the only program with the lovely 'luminosity' layer setting (which makes things SUPER SHINY), but I've discovered that clip paint studio can actually mimic this effect pretty well.

But Sai just 'feels good' to draw with in a way that no other program I tried does. It has the pen pressure affect line width and slightly affect line opacity in a way that looks and feels great. Most other programs don't vary the width enough (or at all PHOTOSHOP), or don't do the slight opacity variation that leads to softer-looking lines.

Sai is simple, but for drawing it is simply perfect. It was a real chore drawing the Kliss's seen above, because even with a third party program getting really close to the sai smoother settings I use, the lines felt really tedius to draw.

It's unlikely any program will do linework as well as SAI does, which is why I'm slow to abandon it. That, and I actually paid for it.
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No. 117524 ID: 395c02

Also I got sick again, so things are delayed until the 13. I need to be caught up, and I want DR6 to have as much preparation as possible.
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No. 117526 ID: 91ee5f

>>117524
>Also I got sick again
Oh no! D8

>so things are delayed until the 13.
As long as you're not secretly a fat orange cat that loves eating lasagna, then I'm pretty sure nothing bad will happen to you on Monday the 13th! XD

But seriously, I hope you'll start feeling better.
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No. 117568 ID: 0c84a3

so, a case of only doing one thing but doing it well, rather than trying to do everything?
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No. 117611 ID: 339cf2

>>117523
I hope you feel better soon, and I'm excited for the continuation of Dragon Romance!
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No. 117690 ID: e0f785
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117690

slinko asked for help determining Kharadra boob size so I helped
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No. 117983 ID: be9553

What do you think about everyone voting for The Creator movie, Slinko?
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No. 117991 ID: 395c02

>>117983
Kinda surprising!
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No. 117996 ID: 3ce125

I thought for sure Byond Lunch was going to win. Maybe some of the people voting for Maker don't know what BL refers to.
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No. 117997 ID: 395c02

>>117996
It's pretty old.

Anyway, I do the updates mon-wed-fri, but because they still take all day, in practice you guys might be better off assuming DR updates tues-thurs-sat :X
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No. 118038 ID: 395c02
File 151132376456.png - (911.24KB , 2496x1300 , Ceri 2point0.png )
118038

After two weeks working on this on-and-off, there's now an official reference for Ceridwen (specifically, Ceri 2.0)!
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No. 118043 ID: 66a4ca

>>118038
She looks better than ever.

Which makes me wonder.. what does her butt look like?
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No. 118045 ID: 91ee5f

>>118043
It looks like a butt. Duh!
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No. 118050 ID: 66a4ca

>>118045
How do you know this?! That's like saying her butt looks like a Pikachu!
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No. 118061 ID: a363ac

Wrong her butt looks like Chewbacca
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No. 118066 ID: c53362

>>118045
Wrong again. It's two Jigglypuffs, viewed from above!
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No. 118217 ID: 395c02

So some probably noticed I've been 'sick' a lot lately.

'Sick' in the traditional sense isn't quite right. I'm not fighting off some virus or relying on cold medicine. It's possible an infection is to blame, but the actual problems are physical in nature.

What's actually wrong is not something I can really talk about without going into TMI territory, but stuff is broken. I've been in a lot of pain, and my Doctor didn't seem to take it very seriously so it'll be december 14 before I see a specialist.

It is something that might need surgery, or might not. The cause could be something simple, or something much less simple. There's no way to know until the 14th. Google doesn't actually know what my exact symptoms mean.

It relapsed (kinda) for a while, which let me resume productivity, but it's gotten worse again. Last time, it made me more or less bed-ridden. This isn't as true this time, but I'm definitely in no shape to update Dragon Romance consistently.

I will make updates when I feel capable of it, but I need to abandon 3x a week for now. I don't want to repeat past mistakes by updating with an addled mind.

Please be patient. I'll keep you posted.
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No. 118218 ID: 66a4ca

>>118217
Hope you get better and everything turns out well!
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No. 118219 ID: 5bc36c

>>118217
take care of yourself, updates can wait
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No. 118220 ID: de6d84

>>118217
Yeah, a situation like this needs priority over us first.
Rest well and get better! We'd rather wait on your well being over updates first!
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No. 118225 ID: 3ce125

>>118217
Slinko did you break your penis
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No. 118237 ID: 395c02

>>118225
Nope
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No. 118238 ID: 84c07e

>>118237
Did you break your butt?
Or did the string on your fake beak snap?
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No. 118290 ID: 33d4be

The votes for the current update need to be considered carefully, I think. You could end up with numbers so that, for example, "become male" gets the most votes, and "soft and chubby" gets the second most, but in which none or very few of the become-male voters wanted soft and chubby and all the soft and chubby voters assumed Ceri would be female. If you just counted the votes straight, you could end up with a soft and chubby male Ceri that (while no doubt some people would like) doesn't actually fit what people intended to vote for.
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No. 118291 ID: 66a4ca

Yeah. I also think that "soft and chubby" and "tuff and thiq" are incompatible.
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No. 118338 ID: 33cbe7

>>118290
And then this is exactly what happened.
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No. 118354 ID: fe7355

I don't get why everyone voting for male Ceri didn't vote for buff male Ceri. Why don't they want a Ceri that Skif can order to pick him up, among other things she could possibly do with such strength? Were the voting options not clear?

Also, Slinko, are you going to do a run-off vote? Because the option with the most votes probably won't be more than the total of all the votes for other options, and that would leave the majority of the voters dissatisfied to varying degrees.
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No. 118355 ID: a363ac

personally I woul recommend aginst a run off vote cause lets be honest its just going to wind up as a mini vent argument the more you dwell on a suggestion point the more likely it is that people will start going coxdis on it. also it would just take an update to find what we already would know.
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No. 118357 ID: 33d4be

>>118354

Well, personally, if we're going to have male Ceri, I want a less-beefy male Ceri. Of the options presented, it's the one I like the most.
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No. 118358 ID: 6cd244

>>118354
We're literally already doing a run-off vote, though!
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No. 118361 ID: a363ac

https://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/844848.html#848954
Water Dragons would make lots of liquids~ "OH GOD IT'S GULKETI ALL OVER AGAIN!" - Skif 2017
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No. 118366 ID: fe7355

For anyone who thought of male Ceri giving Skif anal, remember that Ceri would have to use a condom in their current situation and location. That means the extra lubricant she'd produce because she's in aquatic form will be a detriment, making keeping the condom on much tougher.
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No. 118367 ID: 3ce125

>>118366
...why would she need to use a condom?
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No. 118368 ID: fe7355

>>118367
...Because she'll be putting her dick in Skif's rear and she's not gonna do that without a condom for reasons of cleanliness and hygiene. That's why Skif wore a condom when giving anal to Ceri before. With proper prep Ceri could do without the condom, but they're all the way out on a mountain where they presumably don't have the means.
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No. 118369 ID: 33d4be

>>118367

Hygiene. Ability to clean up afterwards. The messy little realities, the inconveniences and chores that are common but that porn generally doesn't cover. You know?

However! With the ongoing requirement for Skif to be the dominant one, Ceri's dislike of receiving butt stuff, and Slinko's own general lack of enthusiasm for such things, I imagine that a male on male encounter will be more orally focused.

And for all we know Skif won't even want to do anything in particular (he still needs to rest and recharge, after all!) and will only take this opportunity simply to see what a male Ceri would look like, without going any further than a little touching.
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No. 118370 ID: fe7355

>>118369
Or it could be manual, as in a handjob. ...But since Skif is rather spent, Ceri could be the one who gets release from him. It'll just be on Skif's terms, how and when he wants. Perhaps some teasing, some edging Ceri along. Make her squirm for a bit.
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No. 118371 ID: a363ac

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6649245/
Skif has no butt
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No. 118372 ID: 395c02

>And then this is exactly what happened.
Snarky! Fun fact: unless things drastically change by tomorrow-ish, the exact same option will have won twice (even if you consider what each person wanted specifically).

If it won two flawed votes, then so be it. This isn't a major plot point, it's a segment that's going to last a few updates and then be done. It's not worth arguing over, nor is it worth bringing the pacing to a screeching halt trying to 'fix'.

And let's be real, this might be the only time in the entire quest we throw a bone (heh) to those desiring boys kissing boys. Let them have this.


>>118366
I hate anal sex, so it's unlikely you will have to worry about this.
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No. 118375 ID: 395c02

Something far, far more important: http://www.strawpoll.me/14521243

let's decide once and for all.
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No. 118378 ID: 4854ef

I think the Whiskers are actually pretty cute. I know people don't like em too much but they make the facial region stand out and makes a bit more of a difference between the forms.
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No. 118379 ID: d0bba6

Anti whisker sentiment is literally only because of a few crybabies screaming louder than everyone else

Speaking of which clothes are terrible and should be abolished from the quest entirely
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No. 118380 ID: 33d4be

>>118379
>crybabies
>screaming

Where are you getting this?
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No. 118785 ID: 33cbe7

Guys, you don't have to tell Ceri to save one for Eezee. That's literally included in every option.
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No. 118788 ID: 395c02

>>118785
They're conflicted.

Do they save one for Eezeryh, Eezee, or The Eez??!?!?!???!?!?!?
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No. 118807 ID: a363ac

Only THE Eez could raise Arlo to be the coolest dragon they can be.
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No. 118836 ID: f0e552

>>118807
you notice that when she said 'arlo' the name was not capitalized. You know what that means? There are more letters in the name, so what name immediately comes to mind when you know it includes 'arlo'?

That's right, Carlo, or Carlos, as the more popular name nowadays. That's right, 'the Eez' may have influenced us more than I thought.
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No. 118964 ID: 395c02

So!

The next update is going to be a big one, going up tomorrow or the 20th.

After that, I'm going to pause DR for the year and take my yearly break. Since DR is nowhere near done with thread 6, the update is going to be larger to accommodate what should still be a nice place to pause on.

It will resume Jan 1st.
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No. 118968 ID: 3ce125

>>118964
That's not much of a break!
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No. 118973 ID: 395c02

>>118968
I don't need a super long break !

In general 2 weeks is enough to go from 'kinda tired of doing this' to 'PUT ME IN COACH'

While this is the only major planned break in the year, I do also take breaks between threads, so I tend to get plenty of time to recharge. Worry not!
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No. 119009 ID: ed67d9
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119009

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No. 119024 ID: 3ce125

What's with Gulketi's tilde bar? Is the brown segment indicating it went down from all the sex he had?
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No. 119039 ID: 395c02

>>119024
That or he transformed back into an amtsvane off-screen.

Am I saying amtsvane are less lewd than ketzas?



maybe
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No. 119040 ID: 33cbe7

>>119039
Wouldn't a smaller bar fill faster than a large bar! That's even more lewd!
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No. 127350 ID: 06fdc0

slinko i'm sorry but

i read "congratulations you had sex" in the announcer's voice from mario party 3

https://youtu.be/05qF0gtbXrE?t=4
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