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99036 No. 99036 ID: b66b01

Discussion thread for 2Frames Quest.

Been seeing comments on other places saying that discussion threads are pretty "why not?", so I might as well put this here.
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No. 120985 ID: a65225

Okay, so this hasn't actually been used for discussion in a long time, but I feel like now is a good time to revitalize it.

So, it's clear Raven's song is... something else. It more or less got past a other dimensional miasma, and it sort of got past a magic nullifying sword. Not to mention that it's something that a lifelong witch and some very experienced individuals seem to have no clue about.

Now it's affecting an ancient, Eldritch device of Untold Demonic Power that generally needs a blood sacrifice to get going. Got to imagine that anything that can pull that off has to have some juice behind it.

Question is, do we want to take the risk and try and go for what might be a magical short circuit? We could either be speeding it up, or causing it to destabilize and possibly blow up or something. Best case scenario is that whatever she sings causes it to either die out or weaken ferociously. It's a big risk, but potentially we could end the problem here and now.

I really hopw someone else has thoughts on this.
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No. 121000 ID: 87353e

>>120985
Just to clarify since it has been a while and there might have been a misconception, Raven's Song only produces any tangible effects if she preforms it in its entirety, exactly as she was taught how to sing it. Just humming the tune has no effect other then making her feel better psychologically because its a comforting melody to her, as shown in >>/quest/807894 .

Since Raven hasn't actually invoked her song yet, I think this is a case of correlation not being causation in regards to the portal acting up right now. It could be reacting to just Raven's presence specifically since she seems(?) to have a strange connection to the Ruins, what with the visions she has been having since her arrival. Or it could be that the Portal itself has just now reached the terminus of its powering up phase and is now fully primed to receive a sacrifice.

As to what the song might actually do to the Portal, given our previous attempts haven't had any volatile reactions like conventional spells do and seems like a safe way to defuse and disperse the Dark Energy of the Portal. It's at least probably safer then trying to physically smash it while its juiced up or potentially overloading the anti-magic sword if used alone with out weakening the Portal first. No matter what I think we are going to try the song on the portal at some point, its just a question of when.

So then its more like do we want to blow up our spot right now by testing singing to the Portal and probably also cause Ophi to spot Marigold and Poppy before they are ready? Do we have time or the capacity to move to a new hiding spot with out being seen, to then start singing and act as bait to draw Ohpi's attention towards Raven only and not the Bees, giving them an opening to grab her and the captives before the Portal does any more weird shenanigans? Or do we just hold off and wait to see if anything worse happens, hoping that someone else on the attack team gets Ophi to turn around again so we can jump her?
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No. 121006 ID: a65225

>>121000
Oh yeaaah, probably right about that bit about the humming. We might be able to at least shift positions.

...still want to know just what's going on there though.
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No. 121058 ID: 4324ce

Wonder what she could have that keeps her magic working despite a powerful anti-magic sword...

But yeah, didn't think of just chuckin' shit at her.
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No. 121059 ID: 91ee5f

>>121058
>Wonder what she could have that keeps her magic working despite a powerful anti-magic sword...
It’s not just that, it’s that her magic is working perfectly despite being in all this purple stuff!

Remember Emerald’s magic isn’t working unless she draws magic runes on objects, Ophi seems to not be having that problem!
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No. 121063 ID: 87353e

>>121059
Don't forget that Ophi also has a Spell Foci that she is using to cast magic, just like Emerald is using the spare crystal lamp. Its some kind of crystal ball or hollow glass orb.
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No. 121315 ID: f6b57a

Okay so WHAT.

Why did she suddenly open herself to possession? I thought we were pretty fair about this all.
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No. 121326 ID: 87353e

>>121315
Ophi has been super desperate since we captured Ava and it seems like they both had some kind of interaction with the entity while poking around the portal. Who knows what level of influence it had? I mean it seems to amplify negative emotions to its advantage and she had a full blown panic attack.
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No. 121563 ID: ca0e20
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121563

Here's a simple 1 hour doodle of Lucy. =P
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No. 121577 ID: f6b57a

>>121563
poignant.

Also, what the fuck @ latest update. Just who is this chode that keeps bodyjacking people?
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No. 121584 ID: 87353e

Whatever it is, Daemon or not, can apparently puppet people from across dimensions if they have significant negative emotions or unresolved traumas.
Though if that's only because of Ophi being a direct host for it, I wonder what makes Rufa resistant or why it hasn't or couldn't convert her yet like Basant, willpower maybe?
Poppy and Emerald make sense as easy targets. Emerald is pretty much patient zero here, and Poppy had her blood sucked by the portal.

If the charged portal is acting as a relay booster for it we might need to switch targets and have Lucy try to smash some of the channels on the portal arms to cause a signal disruption.
I'm just afraid it might reflect the force of the blow back on her or catastrophically release whatever massive amount energy its been building up if we try that with out Ava's sword to disperse it.
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No. 121591 ID: f6b57a

>>121584
I'm particularly worried due to what the thing said. Sounds like Raven is, in its eyes, a massive threat.
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No. 122559 ID: ca0e20

>>100976
http://cirri.al/sharks/

Is this the game?!? =O
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No. 122926 ID: ecf44d

I think that whatever becomes of the party, we at least have a nebulous goal to work towards in the long run:

These 'songs' that apparently can cause an interdimensional entity to take a look at you and go 'yup, those pipes of yours are a problem that need to be solved'. Hope Ophi has some intel on that whole thing.
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No. 123185 ID: ca0e20
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123185

Quick thing I made. I've been thinking about how much Emerald doesn't look like an Armadillo, cause I didn't really find a way to make her look like one in the first thread. Though I used like, less than 10 minutes coming up with her.

Then in thread 2 when I changed the resolution, I just uprezed the main cast for the most part. So Emerald just ended up looking a lot like a canine. Her and Rufa shouldn't look this much the same. lol

Anyway, I felt like doodling her as an actual armadillo to see how similar/different she'd look like. This is also very prototype though. I plan on changing things about the characters once this chapter is completed, some redesigning, and Emerald will still get worked on a little bit more. But this gives an idea of how she'll look.
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No. 123188 ID: ba56e6

>>123185
Maybe a little narrower on the armored part? It would make it easier to depict clear eyebrows or lines around the eyes. I notice you use both quite a lot with Emerald's expressions.
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No. 123189 ID: ca0e20

>>123188
Yeah, with this version, I was tentatively checking into maybe making her cartoon shape the armor around the eye to use for expressions. But yeah, that's one of the things that might not stick once I actually redesign her.
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No. 123513 ID: 40197f

I think at this point I'm gonna accept some failure.

I was meant to focus on 2F this year until it was done and I expected that to take the first 3-4 months, but because of my dumb head, I ended up not working on it as much as I wanted and there's no way I'll finish 2F before July.

That matters, cause that's when I'll re-shift focus to commissions again. Since I'll want to hold a shark week sale that lasts all month of July. I'm bad at updating 2F even when I try to fully focus on it, so I think my output of update will practically stay the same anyway. I wish I was a better human.

So yeah, more updates for this month (hopefully) but I'm probably gonna shift back to commissions for July. Might have to use the last week of June to prepare or something.
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No. 123527 ID: b1b4f3

>>123513
Aww, I hope the ending won't be delayed TOO long.
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No. 125594 ID: 40197f

Alright! Finally finished the 2 Frames Quest Chapter! I really should have finished earlier, but better late than never I guess lol.

Most I want to say now is that 2F will be on hiatus now. I do have to focus on other things, and it doesn't help that it takes kinda forever to make a 2F update. Especially compared to, say, a Shark Quest update. I dunno how 2F will look once I update it again, but I have thought about how I might change it at least to make it update faster. Though that can range from different approach to drawing the frames to getting better gear, maybe.

Having said that, it is possible that I end up working on another quest from here to when I update 2F again. For one, I want to say that I'll definitely update Shark Quest before I update 2F again. But it's possible I start another hopefully smaller thing first. I've been wanting to start something that would be way more light and low stakes so I can update when I'm bored or whatever, but even that I didn't want to start anything before the Portal Chapter was done. I have no real plan for quests right now other than taking a break from them while I figure other things out.

I'd point to Patreon now, but I have been thinking of redoing it, if I redo it, to be centered about animation and only animation. So if anyone supports it now, it would still be for it's current tip jar reasons. But yeah, my quests are not stellar enough for Patreon, lol. Not even my animations I bet. Anyways.

I already started, but I am now re-reading 2F to see how it works as a story all in one go. So far I do enjoy parts of it. Obviously some parts could be better, but I do like how certain parts are, like the goofy stuff the characters sometimes do.

But anyway, enough rambling out of my mouth! For anyone that read 2Frames and enjoyed it, thank you for sticking around and I hope you've enjoyed this, even with my slow update at the end there! =D
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No. 125595 ID: e4abb2

>>125594
I'm glad to have read it! Came for sharks, stayed for bird brain. I enjoyed all your works and look forward to seeing more!
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No. 125600 ID: ac4925

I loved this quest and I was glad to see this chapter finale. It's a very satisfying conclusion.
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No. 125602 ID: 40197f

>>125595
Glad you do!!! =D The sharks are very alluring, and the bird is silly. =P

>>125600
Glad to hear it! Also good to hear the finale was enjoyed too! =D
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No. 125620 ID: 15a025
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125620

>>125594
It was a very fun quest to the adorable end!
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No. 125621 ID: 40197f

>>125620
Still nice! =D
Glad you enjoyed the quest! =3
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No. 125627 ID: 87353e

>>125594
Congrats on finishing! 2 Frames has been such a wonderful and endearing quest that I'm grateful to have had the chance to participate in. You said the updates towards the end were slow, but the effort and consideration that went into crafting them shows and they were worth the wait. Good job!
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No. 125628 ID: b67388

>>125594
Will look forward to the return.
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No. 125630 ID: 40197f

>>125627
Oh my... That means a lot to hear, thank you! =O =D

>>125628
I'll wish it won't be long, but I don't know how good I'll do those other things. It's all like... life related, ugh, lol.
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No. 125639 ID: b67388

>>125630
No pressure, friend. Wish you luck with said life related business.
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No. 126246 ID: 40197f

Hey, I'm dumb and decided to try and make a short quest for Halloween even though I shouldn't be questing! Here's Batty Quest!

https://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/908607.html

I do intend to have it finished on Halloween, so we'll see I guess.
If people like it enough to want more, I can always make another thread one day to have the bat do more stuff. But yeah. gonna have to end it on Halloween lol. Hope you guys enjoy! =D
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No. 126302 ID: 40197f

And that's a wrap! Hope this silly lil' thing was enjoyable! =3

Happy Halloween! =D
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No. 126303 ID: 91ee5f

>>126302
It was enjoyable!

I really hope we get to see more of Keese sometime in the future!
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No. 126304 ID: 87353e

>>126302
It was a very good and silly, also stories with parallel adventures going on in the background are always fun. It makes you wanna learn more about Gargoyles and Hunters and what adventures they get up to.
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No. 126305 ID: 40197f

>>126303
It's possible! I was even thinking that it would be an option to run a quest using one of the other characters, if I want to try something a bit longer with these characters. But that's more thoughts than concrete plans. It might be something I only do next October for example. =P
But yeah, Keese is a neat lil' fella. =3

>>126304
Glad you enjoyed that aspect! I also enjoy those so it was fun to try one!
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No. 126307 ID: a9af05

>>126305
I enjoyed it as well!

My only complaint is that it's a liiiittle hard to see Keese whenever he/she is being held by a gargoyle. Maybe next time, you could make it easier tell them apart?
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No. 126308 ID: 40197f

>>126307
That's cause he's STEALTH!!! =O

Really though, it's mostly cause none of the characters were really planned. I wasn't even planning on Keese befriending more/all the Gargoyles like he did, so it's why all characters were pure black, lol.

For this quest, I tried to only use a black pen on an orange background with sometimes white highlights to make certain poses and details more obvious and only used different dark grays so that Keese didn't completely disappear.

If I use these characters again, I could give the Gargoyles slight hues to differentiate them more.

Anyway, enough sleepy rambling. Glad you enjoyed it!
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No. 126429 ID: 40197f
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126429

Friend from last time drew Raven this time! Some months ago. I got distracted, lol.

https://www.furaffinity.net/user/sealer4258

>>120086
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No. 126430 ID: 40197f
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126430

And the sketch he made. =3
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No. 127012 ID: 40197f
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127012

Random doodle of Lucy. Wanted to see what kind of outfit she might wear if Raven had her change clothes proper. Had a vague version of this outfit in mind for a while for some reason.
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No. 127014 ID: 87353e

>>127012
In my imagination I was like, Oh this is what Lucy would pick out to wear if the party was heading into a snowy climate region.
Everyone else would be bundled up in layers and it would take all they could to convince her to also put on a thick fur cloak for warmth.
I hope we get to learn more about our new friends and the interesting cultures they come from. We had a chance to ask Lucy about what being Wantagar means, but it kinda got passed over since the focus was on trying to cure her affliction.
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No. 127019 ID: 40197f

>>127014
Yeah, figuring out how to balance action with character development/lore is something I'll need to figure out. It was easy for me in this chapter to think that things needed to be on all the time, to the point where even once Raven got a journal to read, she only got to it some times after and had to read it while doing other things. I guess in my mind, I was just constantly worried things were too boring if they got slow for too long. Though I guess considering the circumstances, maybe that was natural.

Once I get to continue 2F, there won't be anything absolutely urgent apart from "Let's figure out if we can cure this purple", so maybe I'll have more chances to let the characters breath and hopefully it won't be boring lol.
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No. 127431 ID: 40197f
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127431

Doodled a Mad Lucy.

Realized I have not done much perspective stuff in a while so I want to try and do more again.
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No. 127441 ID: 130f18

>>127431
mad cow
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No. 127615 ID: 40197f
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127615

>>127012
Raven is here now. =P
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No. 127618 ID: 87353e

>>127615
Our good good bird bud. The little shoulder mantel is a nice touch. It just feels right for some reason.
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No. 127621 ID: a9af05

>>127615
Raven is just tall enough to be at the perfect height for motorboating Lucy! >:3
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No. 127623 ID: df5c09

>>127621
While she is the right height, Raven unfortunately lacks the mouth and lips needed for motorboating.
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No. 127648 ID: a9af05

>>127623
Awwwww.....
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No. 127829 ID: 40197f
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127829

Doodle of these 2. Wanted to draw the mage again but decided to do a one pic scene with her and Shelly!
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No. 127915 ID: 40197f
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127915

Random thing I did on a whim. Kind of an animation doodle.
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