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4743 No. 4743 ID: 6a6301

Hi, made a home brew race, just want to know if it is balanced or not, and if not, what to do to take it down a notch.

Racial Traits

+2 strength, -2 charisma.
Monstrous humanoid.
Large
Lamia base land speed is 30 ft
+2 natural armor bonus. A Lamia's Scales are Very tough, Adding a boon to her natural resiliency to damage.
Swallow whole A Lamia can try to swallow a grappled opponent of up to one size smaller by making a successful grapple check. Once inside, the opponent takes 1d4 points of bludgeoning damage plus 1d4 points of acid damage per round from the Lamia's digestive system. A swallowed creature can cut its way out using a light slashing or piercing weapon by dealing 5*HD points of damage to the Lamia's digestive tract (AC depends on individual no example, is this every form of AC besides Dexterity and items/armor?). Once the creature exits, muscular action closes the hole; another swallowed opponent must cut its own way out.
A Lamia’s gullet can hold 1 Medium or 2 Small, 4 Tiny, 16 Diminutive, or 64 Fine or smaller opponents.
Constrict (ex): on a successful grapple check, a Lamia deals damage equal to 1d8 + its strength modifier.
+2 racial bonus on swim or climb, Move silently
Automatic Languages: Draconic. Bonus Languages:Elven, Sylvian, Aquan, Common, Halfling.
Level Adjustment: +1
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No. 4745 ID: 962221

Seems reasonable to me.
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No. 4751 ID: f52552

Seems pretty fair, but low for ECL +1.
Maybe toss on a climb or swim speed?
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No. 4752 ID: 0b2a05

Looks alright. for the swallowing though, AC is 10 plus half natural armor, and the escape damage is 1/10 of total HP, 5*HD seems a bit much. Also a swimming speed would be fair to add in.
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No. 4759 ID: 5a2e05

Actual large size? +2 Natural Armor? Swallow Whole, Constrict, skill bonuses? That's worth a bit more than +1LA.
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No. 4762 ID: 6a6301
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4762

>>314752
DM gave me 5*HD as a stat mod for it, was originally the 25 from the shark entry and didn't know what to change it to.

>>314759
Try an keep in mind armor is 4x times as expensive for her. Savage species specifically says attacks that deal martial weapon or less tend to be worth nothing on LA because they don't scale. both swallow whole and constrict are also abilities that require grapple checks since the race doesnt have improved grab I think those ones are pretty fair.

Large and the AC are give or take though, I'm not sure just how effective either really become. anyway if you still feel its over +1 LA try to give a more detailed explanation of why. especially since I've been getting alot of feedback to the contrary.

I almost feel a swim speed is too much, Since it negates drowning basically, Not sure A dm would go for that. and I'd almost rather have a higher hit point total in her interior than swimming (since at start someone can just toss a caltrop inside her stomach and escape. 9/10=1 for my HP)
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No. 4763 ID: 5a2e05

Seems pretty fair, but I think large things usually have a higher strength bonus and level adjustment. Maybe go with Powerful Build?
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No. 4764 ID: 6a6301

>>314763
Large on its own doesnt count for LA according to SA but reach does, they don't get any str bonuses but they do get bonuses to grapple and can carry significantly more than a medium creature

Large is unfortunately a requirement on this race, if people agree its too unbalanced i'd have to add penalties not remove it.
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No. 4767 ID: f52552

>>314764
If that's the problem...
Just make a different version of Powerful Build.
If the humanoidish part is roughly human sized, no reason they should be using larger weapons anyway.
I know that always cheesed me off about driders.

Something like
Tauric- This creature is treated as a size larger for grappling and Hide penalties, but not weapon size or reach.

Maybe throw in some racial feats to spice things up, or some substitution levels, like an order of monks that idolise a marilith that turned to law or a spear technique that gets you all the force of a charge by striking like a snake.
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No. 4777 ID: 0a354a

>>314767
snakes have good reach
and the increase cost isnt just from size, you have to cover your body with body armor, including your other half so to speak, hense the barding.
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