>>350693
Oh, yea, well of course, that.

So apparent it didn't even need mentioning.
*cough*
>_>

This quest is in the graveyard now. That is not the proper place for a quest such as this.

>>353664
...you're right. How did that happen? This is a horrible state of affairs.

So what are we even going to buy? Do we have plans? We need to use it in the next thing we do, although we don't need to expend it. To figure out what we might need, we have to decide what we're going to do. Somebody suggested a bank heist, but we don't have a cash shortage right now. The other thing we actually want to do besides Wrench Monkey's fight is rescue Hollow Queen. Combining those would be incautious, but caution doesn't earn us FX.

For either of those plans though, what we really need is the ability to get inside somewhere that might have protection against our usual methods of transport. It also might not, we should try teleporting first. But if it does, we need to blow the place open. For this purpose, I suggest Volcano Bombs. Something that pierces the crust and actually creates a a volcano would be ideal. It would be very difficult for Wrench Monkey to fully counter, while still allowing him to utilize his strengths. It also risks substantial collateral damage, which means Wrench Monkey could be forced to block pyroclastic or magma flows from harming bystanders or causing civilian property damage. This allows us to achieve our objective (get Hollow Queen out of there, for example) relatively unmolested before engaging in combat. We can use knights to tie Wrench Monkey and other security forces up too if the bystander issue isn't enough, though they're not likely to be used for just Wrench Monkey.
The benefit of this is that it provides multiple objectives for both parties, so we can each succeed (us at rescuing our Queen, him at protecting innocent civilians) and then we can fight, so even if he loses the fight, we can put a good word in to avoid getting his powers stripped, but still consider ourselves to have won for the purpose of our agreement. And of course if somehow we lose, we don't actually lose anything of value but still gain massive FX and succeed at what we actually wanted to achieve.

>>358549
>So what are we even going to buy?
I'd appreciate a little guidance from the author on this one- do we have pretty much whatever we want available, or is there a sharply limited selection that we'll have to choose from? Should we just be inventing useful things?


On the topic of combining the Wrench Monkey and Hollow Queen missions- I don't think that's wise. The Hollow Queen mission is likely to already draw opposition in the form of Iron City's heroes; I would rather not effectively give them a week of warning by sending Wrench Monkey over there in advance- and we did tell him that we'd tell him the job in advance. Iron City is just too dangerous for us to cede any advantage there.

I do agree to your concept of setting ourselves up in a situation where he'll be torn between protecting civilians and preventing us from achieving our objective, though. It's classic villain material and gives us plenty of FX-generating speech material.

>>358553
Based on what's happened in the past with FX ideas, Gnome will give us suggested options, and other things will be viable too. Stuff that gets plenty discussion in /dis/ will be explicitly listed as an option in an update, albeit with more specificity than it's discussed with in this thread. Gnome allows other people to have cool ideas too.

It's true that if Wrench Monkey told other people that could make trouble for us, but he's unlikely to do so. He needs the recognition from the fight, for one thing. But we can also give a "no allies" clause. Say "I have a few friends in Iron City, but in order to keep things fair I won't ask for outside help. I trust you'll extend the same courtesy." And that's covered.

But the increased lethality/darkness of Iron City is something I'd forgotten to consider, and is a pretty strong counterpoint to this plan.
These same elements can be applied to something like a bank heist or any other situation where we bust open a facility to get what's inside, but something as big as a volcano bomb is something we should save for the break-out. Maybe we can have a small-scale prototype volcano bomb, and extend to Wrench Monkey the opportunity to thwart our testing of it somewhere here in Adventure City. Or we could have a somewhat different thing. Maybe a magma cannon. Or maybe we don't buy some specific thing just for this test, just pick things off of the list that Gnome will presumably build based on suggestions in this thread, superhero staples, and his own ideas. Then do something entirely different for our shenanigans.
I don't really know what our shenanigan should be though. A bank raid would be okay, but it's sort of a bland fallback. I'd rather be more grandiose. Maybe we want to turn some office building or other structure into an obsidian candle? I don't think we have rapid enough obsidian generation for something like that, though.

Is a bank raid really the best we can come up with? Nope! I have an idea.

Make the heist about PR. Just appear in the middle of the city, ours not Iron, ontop of a stage rising out of a volcano. Ontop that proclaim the rise of the Obsidian Barony and ensure that this time jornalists get our name right. I´m still wormed about that entire Baron Wiki part. The stage part would also be a good throwback to our first fight against Wrench.

You think we can buy a stage together with the volcano here?

>>358560
Problem with that is, how the hell does Wrench Monkey thwart a PR stunt?

Another possibility would be having Blacwick set up some sort of plot with very grey moral consequences. Like arranging some device or plan to destroy a bad corporations HQ. Say a company where many workers have died from horrible accidents caused by a complete lack of responsibility or one that exploits 3rd world countries for profit while causing vast environmental damage.

Then opposing heroes can be confronted by the fact that stopping Blacwicks plan will potentially cause more death and destruction in the long run.

That whole "painting a skyscraper black and setting the antennae on fire" plan is still on the table. Just saying.

Seven had an idea in IRC, and after going over it and working out some initial flaws, I think this is a good plan. We fund a wedding, and then crash it. This allows us to set the stage, more or less, and use up our obligatory expense. We can set up a facsimile, pretend that we're giving away a free wedding in order to photograph it and bill Adventure City as a good place for people to go and get married. The benefit of this is twofold; this shows people our motive so that they won't look for a hidden catch, and it allows us to have cameras set up so our fight can be on the news and just how we want it. It also allows us to have our knights positioned as photographers and other servants, which is a nice bonus. Plus we can actually do what we say we're doing; bringing more money into town benefits everyone in the community, including us.
The "it must be on this date in two weeks" thing will reduce our pool of free-wedding applicants a bit, but we only need one couple so it should be fine.

Our escapade will initially look like just a villain being rowdy and crashing the party, we can keep the fact that we funded the whole shindig a secret or we can use that in some way for PR or to earn specific favors. It would be a heck of a dramatic reveal "I am not crashing this party! In fact I funded it! I am here to appear in photos and represent our town's fine tradition of supervillainy." For practical purposes it's more like the sort of thing we pull to fuck with the EDF, it's not like we need to mess with Wrench Monkey, but it could still be good for some extra FX in our paycheck.

Of course, could also do what we appear to do - find an existing wedding and crash it. But that removes a lot of potential control from the situation, and is pretty dickish to boot. We could also do something other than a wedding, if people have ideas.

>>358572
Yeah. Only thing is painting a tower seems a bit corny if we could encase it in obsidian, but our obsidian generation capacity isn't really up to that.

>>358581
We don't have any business that we're enemies with, though. And moral grey area might be good to win over heroes, but we don't need that on Wrench Monkey, since we're already getting him as a lackey if we beat him.

Blacwick!94Ud9yTfxQ 2012/02/01(Wed)01:13 No. 48829 ID: 785c50
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As long as there is discussion in here, I'd like to remind people of the other thing that was part of plans from way back when.

>>358629
>implying we have any idea what you're talking about

Yer a retard crux. We're gonna save the prisoners

what prisoners man

>>358631

Last I checked it was only the Hollow Queen who needed rescuing

>>358639
But a mass jailbreak is much more fun, gets us more cred and the general chaos makes good cover for our own escape. Of course, being a teleporter it might be far easier to to go pull her out alone but a supervillain prison might have defenses against that.

>>358631
Is that what Gnome's talking about? We've discussed that a bit (I suggested using a volcano bomb) and he doesn't directly allude to it in his post; it's a picture of Delirium.

>>358644
Right, jailbreaks are more fun when everyone's going crazy in there.

>might have defenses against that.
They probably have something to keep people from teleporting out, but I doubt they have anything to keep us from teleporting in.
We also don't know what coverage area is. It might be that only the special teleporter cell block has a teleportation denial setup, or maybe that place and the "high risk of rescue" blocks. If they do have an area that we can't teleport into, it's probably small.

>>358647
I'm worried that they'd have some kind of teleport trap, so instead of going to the intended cell you end up somewhere we Don't Want To Be and Can't Run From.

Does Gnome have an IRC?

Also, I kinda want the Don with us when we do the mass jailbreak, just for the fun of having vast numbers of gangsters breaking INTO prison. But adding in Delirium would give us a bruiser that's also pretty good at cop crowd control.

I had the idea about a month ago to burn down Wrench Monkey's old employer. We can pretend we're in it for the little man, while really just being a dick (that was at least proposed as our meta once, right?), and force Wrench Monkey to either start saving the guys who ruined his life because he was too good at his job, or embrace villainy by endorsing petty revenge. Plus if he does manage to win, we're being nice, because he'll probably get credit and might get his job back and become like company mascot or something.

I didn't have any specific ideas on what to do except maybe 'burn it down', so trying to turn it their offices into a giant candle sounds possible. Ideally the fight should give Wrench Monkey some opportunity to use his abilities, so focusing on the destruction of the building while giving him a chance to reinforce it or build ways for everyone to get out safely should be considered in the plan.

Blacwick!94Ud9yTfxQ 2012/02/01(Wed)17:27 No. 48857 ID: 785c50
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more arts

>>358652
I am always in #rubyquest and #tgchan and #tozol on irc.rizon.net, along with everyone else. I won't be paying attention unless you ding me, though. Saying "gnome" will do the trick.

To clarify: Delirium is not in jail, but there was a thing that we promised to Delirium that I think everyone's completely forgot about. But that's okay I guess.

>>358657
Did we promise her something besides agreeing to crash at her place for a couple days?

>>358649
That sounds a bit more dickish than I really expect Gnome to be. But as long as we can find a way out of there it would be fun.
We could just make a portal and then if it's redirected we don't go through it. In fact we should probably go with a portal anyway so that many prisoners can leave through it.

>>358652
We should totally see if the Don is down for this. For all we know he might have a buddy or two in the clink as well. And we should tell Delirium, and Blood Knight if we come across a way to contact him, since they're presumably friends of the Hollow Queen as well.

>>358658
Well it was sort of implied that we'd hang out with her too, but not besides that, unless I'm missing something. And I reviewed the thread to be sure, so I don't think I am. I hadn't forgotten, but I'd reckoned it doesn't mean anything in particular that needs a lot of discussion, just that we'll head to her house this evening instead of our own apartment.

>>358656
This seems like it has some potential. If he's successful in defeating us, he'll likely get his job back. On the other hand, in the more likely event that we defeat him, it may reforge his ties to the place. I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing; it could be to our advantage if we need a mundane construction crew. We could also vassalize the firm (our name includes a noble title so vassalizing things is clearly a power inherent to us) and set Wrench Monkey up in charge of it.

Blacwick!94Ud9yTfxQ 2012/02/02(Thu)00:58 No. 48870 ID: 72b600
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>>358658
Nah, that's all it was. I'm just making sure people don't forget something that happened to Blacwick just yesterday, is all. It's been 7 months, I don't blame anyone if they forgot. Everything else worth mentioning was being discussed, so I thought that was also worth mentioning.

Words words have a sketch.

Blacwick!94Ud9yTfxQ 2012/02/06(Mon)01:20 No. 49002 ID: 72b600
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I draw extra things during updates because they're fun

>>358670
I like how Delirium is the less evil looking of the two.

>>358667
Doesn't Blackwick get big money by turning a Hero into a Villian?
He could even be our first real Villainous Underling.

>>/quest/409434
>Sure he seems to have a thing with that frost chick, but since when have hero/villain relationships ever worked out?
Almost as often as they crop up. It's about on par with hero/hero or villain/villain relationships, really.

>Especially since Angel's only dating him to "redeem" him.
Err... What? She's expressed zero interest in that. In fact, she's been nothing but supportive of BO's villainy. That's the exact opposite of what you claimed. Heck, she's expressed zero interest in being a hero - she's in it for the powers, and sees the hero bit as an annoying chore she has to do to keep them.

Converting Angel Frost to villainy is as easy as telling her Villains keep their powers

In short? You are utterly wrong.

Anonymous 2012/05/07(Mon)17:18 No. 52391 ID: cf49fc
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>>362188
Really? Well do forgive me good sir. I have not been through the archives in many a moment. This failure on my part shall not go unpunished. Please enjoy this photo of you totally serving me while I go perform the Dance of Ultimate Shame.

I still blame Elephant for all the tentacle rape pictures that ensue.

Blacwick!94Ud9yTfxQ 2012/05/08(Tue)13:13 No. 52432 ID: 72b600
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>I still blame Elephant for all the tentacle rape pictures that ensue.
As if tentacle porn wasn't a naturally inevitable result of having a hot female character with tentacles.

Anyway, being slightly better at art than I was when I started this quest almost two years ago (I am still surprised it has been that long), I did some Official Updated Headshots to show off some of the varied characters of this quest.

>>362232
Oh nice! I've noticed that every update is now 'FX quality'. It is impressive. Wrench Monkey suddenly looks a lot more human there.
Next update soon, yeah?

>>362232
Wrench Monkey looks way too human now.

I do not approve.

>>362232
Dang, Blackwick looks... ADORABLE. I can see what all the hot female superhumans see in him.

>>362232
I find the choices of depicted emotions interesting. Some make more immediate sense than others. Why is Angel sad?

>>362272
Sad? I wasn't trying to draw a sad expression at all. I'd describe her face as very neutral, glancing to her side at something that caught her eye.

Blacwick!94Ud9yTfxQ 2012/05/11(Fri)17:14 No. 54481 ID: b9749e
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I showed a friend of mine this quest today. 6 hours later, she sent me this image via tumblr.

I have awesome friends.

>>362311
My first impression is that she's literally looking a bit down.

Yea angel does look a bit sad...
>>364281
Yes, yes you do.

Yo, Deli, can I call you Deli? How about Salvatore Deli if not? Wait, never mind, that's more complex than Delirium, technically, but I can spell Salvatore more easily...

whatever, anyway, you watch Breaking Bad? What do you think of it? How was last season (in your time)? Is Walter White becoming a monster?

I've got a more sensible question for Delirium: Even if your form of self medication isn't physically addictive are you quite aware that you seem to be psychologically addicted instead? As in

>>>/quest/411144
Why would supervillains want to see a superhero movie?

>>364392
Study enemy techniques because there will always be imitators.
Plus when was the last time you heard of a super villain movie.

Delirium!94Ud9yTfxQ 2012/05/13(Sun)06:04 No. 54597 ID: 72b600
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>you watch Breaking Bad? What do you think of it? How was last season (in your time)? Is Walter White becoming a monster?
You know how doctors don't like medical dramas, and police don't watch CSI? It's the same kind of deal. I'd rather not watch shows related to my line of work. It gets depressing. Besides, I don't actually watch a lot of TV. I spend most of my free time on distracting busywork, like puzzles and cleaning and cooking and such. Watching TV lets my mind wander too much.

>Plus when was the last time you heard of a super villain movie.
Megamind. Despicable Me. Dr. Horrible's Sing-A-Long Blog. There's a few.

>I've got a more sensible question for Delirium: Even if your form of self medication isn't physically addictive are you quite aware that you seem to be psychologically addicted instead?
...Yeah. I know. I... I know.

>>364397
Delirium, have you ever tried prescription drugs?
Don't tell me you can't get them, you're the best black market chemist I've seen.

>>364457
I think she's tried all of the drugs. But the question is if she's had a prescription for her issues, provided by a responsible and well informed doctor. And stuck to it.

>>364458
If a doctor was responsible and informed wouldn't he know she was a supervillain and bring in heroes ?

Anonymous 2012/05/14(Mon)00:01 No. 54662 ID: 5c94e7
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Guys
Baron OBSIDIAN
You know what must be done.

>>364462
uhhhh. yeah that is kinda what he does when he makes longer range portals.

>>364462
Our portals where ever we want though, rather than hell. And presumably they have fire instead of purple. See my boss-as-fuck depiction way up here:
>>348673