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364 No. 364 ID: f4963f
Alright, fuckers. I've updated the fuck out of this here wiki, and from a general query in IRC, it seems that some people don't even know we have one. No wonder; there's no obvious link to it from the site.

http://www2.tgchan.org/wiki/Main_Page < Here is the main page.

The original organization scheme made it hard to add or remove quests from the listing, and required each quest to have a preview image. What I've gone ahead and done is created a page stub for each quest I could find, as well as a bunch of redirects (for anal differences like KaraQuest vs Kara Quest), and added category tags to each one.

The advantage of category tags is that a person needs to know a lot less wiki-fu in order to do it reliably, and it's easier to micro-manage if you know that, say, quest X is no longer active. I eventually would like to create a 'running quests' category, but for now, I'm just splitting quests up into Quests and One-Shot Quests, with a subdivision between text and image (IE: standard) quests.

What I'd like to see is the ability to reach the Quests category from the front page.

http://www2.tgchan.org/wiki/Category:Quests

These are the category tags I've been using for articles, for anyone else who wants to carry on this work:

Category:Quests
>This is for any quest that's not one-shot. Preferably not something dredged up from the Graveyard, though a few dead quests are already on the list.

Category:Image Quests
>This is for standard quests, that combine text with images. Something like AntQuest occasionally showing layouts doesn't quite count; it needs to be an actual text-and-image quest.

Category:Text Quests
>This is for text-based quests. Writefaggotry-oriented rather than Drawfaggotry-oriented. AntQuest would be a popular example of what I'm thinking of for this. Category's currently pretty slim, mostly because I'm unfamiliar with the text quests of the board.

Category:Completed Quests
>Self-explanatory

Category:One-Shot Quests
>I give a definition on the quest page. I do /not/ add a Quests tag to these, since they'd cluster up the main quest listing like a motherfucker. Instead, I've made One-Shot Quests a subcategory of Quests, so anyone viewing the Quests category will see the One-Shot Quests tag.

{{Stub}}
>This tag marks the entry a stub, automatically pushes it into a Stubs category, and leaves a notice on the page that it is, in fact, a stub.

Category:Quest Authors
>This tag should be self-explanatory. People tend not to know how to link to userpages directly, but our wiki's small enough that we can simply create normal articles for our quest authors. I happen to have made my userpage redirect to the Adept page myself.

Those are the important ones, anyway. To use them, simply stick this phrase in double brackets at the bottom of the article:

Category:WakWakWak

With WakWakWak being replaced with 'Quests', 'Image Quests' whatever.

SO WHAT WOULD BE NICE?

-It would be nice if we had a direct link to the wiki on the main site. This is Dylan's domain, not mine.
-It would be nice if there were a link to the quest category on the main page. I'm not quite sure how to edit the main page; my Wiki-fu is underlevelled.
-If Quest authors and readers could start filling out the articles (we have /lots of stubs/), that would be awesome. If I missed some quests or got some facts wrong, please correct them.

( Stubs link here: http://www2.tgchan.org/wiki/Category:Stubs )

TL;DR - I organized your quests up, fags. Now go fill in content or I eat you.
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No. 11884 ID: 0b5a64
I guess my issue is really that the critera for whether or not the author ragequit isn't based on any objective, easily discernible critera, and authorial intent determines category rather than any feature of the quest.

This seems like a bad way to categorize things to me. For instance, if SDF revealed that he had intended for Drunk Nevrean Quest to go on much longer, but quit in frustration when everybody suggested animal control, then by your own criteria you'd have to move it to "dead" instead of "completed."
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No. 12621 ID: 2563d4
Can someone admin-powered delete the redirect at http://tgchan.org/w/index.php?title=Tory%27s_Tower&redirect=no so that "Tory's tower" (note capitalisation) can be moved into its place (which will also set up the redirect the right way around)?

Obviously be careful that you're not deleting it after it's moved or deleting the page it currently redirects to. :V

(Beakie: use move for things like Lazuhrek‎->Lazurek since it preserves the edit history.)
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No. 12626 ID: e973f4
>>12621
Done.

I think.
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No. 12629 ID: 2563d4
>>12626
And moved. Ta.
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No. 12729 ID: cc0413
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap

This is what I was talking about in Icon dis thread. Could you please bug the admin about it?
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No. 13056 ID: 2563d4
We need to either get captchas implemented on account signup or just block it all until you have time, Dylan; the spambots are out in force.
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No. 13057 ID: 2563d4
>>13056
( http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access#Restrict_account_creation )
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No. 13129 ID: 2563d4
Moving to delete http://tgchan.org/wiki/Quest_Index and everything under that tree. It's all horribly out of date and horribly redundant with the quest pages themselves and the automatic categories. Maybe some of the /tg/ quests listed don't have pages here, but then I don't exactly see why they should; even our page for Ruby Quest is more-or-less a pointer to 1d4chan. And that's fine.

The one thing to perhaps save is http://tgchan.org/wiki/BHCQI and repurpose it to be the list of nontrivial completed quests: Journey, Bite, Last Flight, that kind of thing. Not all the random one-shots (good as some of them may be) and rocks-falls of Category:Completed_Quests.
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No. 13142 ID: 2563d4
02:30 < LionsPhil> Hey, Dylan16807: http://tgchan.org/wiki/User:LionsPhil/FanartTest
02:30 < LionsPhil> It's pretty ugly, but doesn't need the files uploaded to the wiki. :3
02:32 < LionsPhil> If Dylan had limitless free time this would be much easier if there were an URI-space carved somewhere that mapped from post numbers to their thumbnails.
02:33 < Dylan343> yeah that seems pretty easy
02:33 < LionsPhil> i.e. you GET /kusaba/questdis/thumb-for/339590 or maybe ...thumb-for/336257/339590, and it throws you an HTTP 301 to http://tgchan.org/kusaba/questdis/thumb/12956035692s.jpg
02:34 < Dylan343> I forgot what the single post query goes to
02:34 < LionsPhil> ...aaaaalthough come to think of it Mediawiki is hideous and that wouldn't work unless I could GET something with a recognized image filename. :|
02:34 < LionsPhil> I guess I could always pretend it was a PNG and let the real HTTP MIME type tell the browser otherwise. Nobody uses Internet Explorer, right?
02:35 < LionsPhil> (so it'd have to be ...thumbfor/123.png for this. Even if it 301s to a gif.)
02:39 < Dylan343> post this in the wiki thread so I don't forget

tl;dr /kusaba/BOARD/thumb-for/POST.png -HTTP301-> URL for the thumbnail

In much a same vein a mapping from pure board/post to board/thread#post would be incredibly useful for the citeq template, too, since it would remove the need for an explcit thread argument. e.g. /kusaba/meep/by-post/123 --> /kusaba/meep/12.html#123 Gotta be something along those lines already for the hover-previews.
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No. 13149 ID: bd0417
>>13129
Sounds good. Although I always wondered what BHCQI stands for. The page name is about as unintuitive as it gets.

>>13142
And this is just plain awesome. I use a browser that used to be IE some eight years of development ago, but it'll probably do fine.

Also, sorry for my Cat:DELETE ME jackassery. I was just frustrated I couldn't delete accounts altogether.
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No. 13166 ID: 2563d4
>>13129
Right, this is done. We now have a http://tgchan.org/wiki/Major_Completed_Quests
It may be missing Hat Quest and Romanticar; they were missing proper descriptions in BHCQI and I couldn't determine if the latter actually came to a proper conclusion.

So if you think a major quest is missing, go for it.
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No. 13194 ID: bd0417
No, you seem to have spotted all of them. We could reclassify Knight Blades as a Dive Quest prequel that "ended", but that's quite a stretch.

While you're at it, I'm gonna bring your attention to some other pages so as to question their relevance:

http://quest.lv/wiki/Minecraft - nothing links here and why is it there again?
http://quest.lv/wiki/Doubletestbed - probably was supposed to be in namespace?
http://quest.lv/wiki/Catagories - same
http://quest.lv/wiki/Dusker - blank page
http://quest.lv/wiki/Spikesby - character page
http://quest.lv/wiki/Totenkopf - character page
http://quest.lv/wiki/Atu - character page
http://quest.lv/wiki/Strip_Poker - while it might be a thing of interest, does it warrant its own wiki page?
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No. 13195 ID: 2563d4
>>13194
>http://quest.lv/wiki/Minecraft
I'll let this be someone else's call since I have no interest in Minecraft. I'm not sure if anyone even still plays on the tgchan server, or if those links are up to date?
>http://quest.lv/wiki/Strip_Poker
I can see this people being worthwhile if people care about it enough to pick out the bits of the thread and flesh out the page; the characters available and links to their quests, link to my DOSBox environment for running it under 64-bit, whatever the current instructions for making sets are, etc. Does anyone care to?
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No. 13200 ID: d677cc
>>13166
>>13194
I want to say that the finished Romanticars and also Crowmanticar are probably long enough to warrant inclusion on that page, but not totally sure.
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No. 13229 ID: 33b512
Does no one else think that the Major Completed Quests page is useless?
What makes something a Major Quest? Is it the amount of chapters or popularity?
Why is a separate page even needed for this?
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No. 13239 ID: d677cc
>>13229
Well, for one, thanks for posting from an obvious proxy instead of just posting as yourself.

Also,
>repurpose it to be the list of nontrivial completed quests: Journey, Bite, Last Flight, that kind of thing. Not all the random one-shots (good as some of them may be) and rocks-falls of Category:Completed_Quests.

Pretty sure the purpose of the page is pretty clear: so that someone looking for complete long-running quests can find them without digging through the pile of completed one-shots on the regular page. I suppose there might be some /tg/ quests that are long and have finished that aren't on there, but I wouldn't know.
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No. 13739 ID: 1854db
HURRY QUEST IS NOT IN THE WIKI

HURRY THE FUCK UP AND ADD IT
http://quest.lv/kusaba/questarch/res/255487.html
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No. 13740 ID: 2563d4
http://tgchan.org/wiki/Carpal_Tunnel
Yeesh...best intentions and all but I don't think this page is a good idea, falling under the category of "health advice from THE INTERNETS".

In particular the suggestion to wear a wrist brace as often as possible is terrible; letting the muscles atrophy will just make things worse in the long run.
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No. 13741 ID: f7166d
Man, there is a bunch of shit that is horribly out of date.
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No. 14288 ID: 6795ff
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14288
So I tried to request a wiki account to help fill in the tragic lack of information on Jukashi's various quests, only to be met with pic related when I submitted the form.

Any suggestions?
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No. 14289 ID: 2563d4
>>14288
What username did you request as? It might have gone through anyway.
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No. 14290 ID: 6795ff
>>14289
Cigarette
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No. 14291 ID: 2563d4
Hmm, afraid not. It'll have to wait for Dylan to take a look at it. :|
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No. 14295 ID: 78edaa
The one bit wouldn't fix without an update. So I updated everything. Seems okay now. And updates are nice I guess, didn't crash and burn.
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No. 14298 ID: f29d9f
>>14295
Thanks. Looks like it went through this time. :)
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No. 14485 ID: 2563d4
4chan quest from someone who moved to tgchan which has been purged from the suptg archive, so the link here is bad:

http://www1.tgchan.org/wiki/Driblis_Quest

Wat do?
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No. 14587 ID: 2563d4
http://www1.tgchan.org/wiki/Template:Featured_Article

Like Dylan said the other day, it's about time this got changed.

I'm suggesting Bite Quest, since it's a recent good example. (Or Last Flifht.) By which I mean I'll probably just go ahead and change it to that soon if there's no feedback.
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No. 14593 ID: 383006
Also the Bite Quest article could really, really use updating.
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No. 14750 ID: d6ae01
>>14587
It is of my completely unbiased opinion that it was totally super fine the way it was.

And Bite Quest...'s quest is older than mine he just took longer to finish it :<

You act like five whole months is a long time!

Wait that was posted 8 days ago? Wow, I'm slow.
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No. 15227 ID: 1f2692
alrighty, so i'm slapping my page up in the quest authors and am wondering if there is any sort of small, easy to do things that needs doing?

I expanded on nevrean a bit, but only because there is some discussion on them over in traditional games
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No. 15997 ID: 2563d4
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15997
So hey, if you've been around the wiki a while, you might be used to the little "Help" link in the sidebar being pretty useless.

It isn't any more.

(You can also get there by clicking "Editing help" next to the save/preview buttons when editing a page.)

And while I'm bumping, opinions on >>13195 and >>14485 ?
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No. 16137 ID: 30df25
http://www2.tgchan.org/wiki/Main_Page - 404 file not found

Shame the OP can't be edited to have the correct URL: http://quest.lv/wiki/
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No. 16140 ID: 2563d4
>>16137
It probably could, if Dylan was overflowing with enthusiasm. But that effort would be better spent putting a [Wiki] link in the top navigation with [questarch] and the like~
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No. 17823 ID: 2563d4
Since it's a major change, crosspostan:
>>17822
Fanart can now be used directly from the board without uploading.
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No. 17898 ID: e1c562
I have an Idea,

when browsing through Quests there's no way of telling if the quest is a completed epic, or some no name thread that died off after 20 posts

what I think might be helpful is if beside each quest name, there was an indicator showing how many threads are in it.

another Idea is if when you mouse over one of the links, the main quest picture comes up. so you could see what the art looks like
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No. 17900 ID: 4bdd79
>>17898
http://tgchan.org/wiki/Major_Completed_Quests
http://tgchan.org/wiki/Category:Series_Quests
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No. 17901 ID: e1c562
that's not exactly what I'm talking about.

and maybe thread count is not even the best indicator
image might would be better

what I'm refering to is scale.
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No. 17902 ID: e1c562
oh I just thought of something
maybe a "sort by" type feature would work

"thread count", "image count" "popularity" could be a couple examples
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No. 17905 ID: a83de5
http://tgchan.org/wiki/Special:PopularPages
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No. 17907 ID: e9b708
uh yeah, that's not what I'm talking about at all

I would appreciate it if you actually read my post

also that page is a pain in the ass to find,
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No. 17910 ID: 2563d4
>>17901
The wiki doesn't have that information, and unfortunately I don't know of any way to make use of it if it did. Category entries aren't really customisable.
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No. 18198 ID: 2563d4
>>17995
>we're looking at Infoboxes picking up quest OP images automatically
This is now live. All infoboxes without explicit images set are now falling back to the OP of the first thread. Maybe take a look at the the article for that quest you like but never got around to spiffying up the infobox for and see how the heuristic fared. If the image is inappropriate (e.g. it's a big black mess with "???" in it), do one of:
1) Set an uploaded wiki image filename with image
2) Set a post number for a better image with imageext
3) Set suppressimg=1 to just not show anything (e.g. text quests)

In other news, viewing the Template:Infobox source now begins to cause blood to pool at the bottom of the browser window. I'm sure it's nothing serious.
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No. 19862 ID: 2be5ee
we can nominate quests of the week right? i wan't deep to be nominated this week, kays?
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No. 19866 ID: 2563d4
Deep's already been Featured Article, admittedly back in November 2009.

Generally I'd prefer a quest that was either running or finished...
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No. 19867 ID: becb83
>>19866
like black company or rinaquest?
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No. 19870 ID: ce15d1
i nominate passage or tales from meigara. starit needs some love
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No. 19872 ID: f5343f
Voting for Passage.
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No. 19873 ID: fc7101
>>19872
I'll vote for this as well
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No. 19878 ID: 2563d4
Sounds like a consensus to me!
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No. 19879 ID: 9c7c3b
So when should we feature a new article? Every two or three weeks or so?
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