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24283 No. 24283 ID: b53faa

Hello, fellow Questers! I am coming here to tell you about a FANTASTIC new tool one 'julian' has concocted for our fine website!
Created by the genuius owner of the url dediggefedde@gmx.net, this plugin is guaranteed to help improve your TGchan experience a thousandfold!
You can find this amazing script HERE: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/162386

I will be using this thread to detail any and all features of this plugin as I go along!
Expand all images
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No. 24284 ID: b53faa
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24284

This thing right here is the formatting bar! Contained WITHIN the formatting bar is a button for each available command that the scriptmaker is aware of!
From left to right:
BOLD
underline
Italics
S T R I K E T H R O U G H
mona/mspgothic font
smalltext
UNICODE FONT
spoilers (dumbledore dies)
Colors (Note: no more than four colors appear to be applicable to one post at a time right now, may be a glitch)
:I::C::O::N::S: (Still in beta)
And finally, the last one is a colorpicker to go WITH the colors script. I am not actually certain if that one is, in fact, finished yet, but it is still a fantastic help to people like me who dont know how hexadecimal works.
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No. 24285 ID: b53faa
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24285

in addition to that, you may have noticed that there is also a new PREVIEW function set in next to the reply button!
When you hit that, you will get a nice screenful of this below the post box!
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No. 24286 ID: b53faa
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24286

Another neat tool is the magnifier, which will make pictures posted here display larger whenever you mouse over them!
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No. 24287 ID: b53faa
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24287

And now for the fun part: See this thing here?
THIS is the biggest pull for this script!
Contained in this little box are a VARIETY of functions that make reading this website just the slightest bit easier, such as adding paragraph margins or inverting the colors of the website.
It also has a neat addition that compresses the watch list into a small, out of the way tab that you simply have to mouse over to acess!
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No. 24288 ID: c1f282
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24288

Thanks, Archivemod!
I would also like to add that there is a custom bar for your watched threads (see picture).
It has an auto-rewatch function if the list is suddenly empty (as it is when your IP has changed).
It also only appears on hover or stays visible on click until you click somewhere else.
It shows all watched threads of all boards on all boards.

I already plan for a few updates, namely:
I plan to redo the whole watch bar, so it works independantly of tgchan, using mainly the +50-sites for reference. This could make some nice improves like notification when the author or an image has posted. it would also link to them instead of the whole threads (which is kind of slow on weaver's and lagotropes^^)

Another Update would be intelligent bookmarks, saving your scroll-position and working with the wikis so you can browse the quest-archive and reread awsome quests like cheequest or tozol or divequest or asteroidquest or... more comfortable^^

The input form will be slightly updated as I plan to replace the 3-slide colour-pickers with a one-slide and 2d-image. I also plan to implement the uploaded image into the preview, using some nice html5 file reader... not sure how the support for browsers is now, though...
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No. 24289 ID: c1f282
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24289

Another thing to mention would be the new button on quest-lists:
this button using in Firefox will load the last 3000 bytes of the quest into the window. this usually are 5-7 posts. clicking it again will load another 5-7 posts and so on. This usually is faster than browsing to some +50 or whole thread pages as it actually only transfers 3000 bytes.
On other Browsers there was no option to limit the byte-range, so it loads the +50-page into the box instead.
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No. 24290 ID: c1f282

Maybe a last note on how to install this:
I made a more detailed installation guid on my homepage:
http://phi.pf-control.de/Joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=61&Itemid=74&lang=en
It should work on Firefox, Chrome, Opera and Safari

The homepage is still under construction, so there's not much else to see there^^

Also, if anybody like to contact me, feel free to contact me on Skype (same username) or contact me on deviantart: http://dediggefedde.deviantart.com
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No. 24291 ID: b53faa

be sure to put some feedback in here so we can make this as awesome as possible!
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No. 24292 ID: b53faa

Oh, right, one last thing: You might need to install Greasemonkey if you plan on using this on chrome.
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No. 24293 ID: 4b1b03

I'd love to use this but it keeps flashing the "your IP has changed do you want to restore your watched threads" about every 2 or 3 seconds so I can't

It's a mad cool idea though and for those whose internets are stabler use it
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No. 24295 ID: 77a03f

>>24293
You could deactivate "Manage watch list" in the option-menu.
that should deactivate the alert-message.
I updated the script slightly, so you would have 10s time to deactivate the box in case you don't have enough time for that now.

Sorry for the inconvenience, but I can't really emulate bad connection as either the site is fully loading or the site and the script doesn't load in offline-mode^^

However, This will change when I make my own watch-menu that does not need to check tgchan's.
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No. 24298 ID: 887447

Angel Beast!
http://angelbeast-en.blogspot.com/
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No. 24300 ID: e422d8

Looks neat! Nice work
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No. 24301 ID: e01556

>>24295
I tried that but it just re-checks itself when I go to the next page
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No. 24302 ID: 4724f6

I have to admit, I hate the way it makes threads look and greatly prefer the original.
Also, that watchlist box keeps rechecking itself and it's annoying me to no end.

Cool concept and you did good, but it's just not something I'm gonna use.
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No. 24306 ID: a2fceb

Thanks for your feedback!^^

>>24300
>>24302
The problem was, that when you hide the normal watch-box and deactivate my watch bar, it didn't save the settings. that's fixed with v1.52 now.

About design, well, all changes have off-switches, so if you don't like the design of the page, deactivate "Paragraph margin" and only the new font-size should be applied. The colour could also be inverted with "invert colours" and if you don't like the new design of the new reply-form, just deactivate "Change reply Form".
In the end, only change of font-size and font-type function can't be turned off and I think it's much easier to read in Georgia.

I think, the design goes well with [Burichan],[Futaba] and [Nice], but if you have your own design or design-idea and want it to be included, feel free to send me an e-mail or link to pastebin^^
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No. 24308 ID: a68e3e

The writing utility is dead useful but is there a version of the script with just that? I don't really need any other changes to the site.

I was also getting the same error as >>24293 when using the script, even when I'm telling it to not keep a watchlist it just clicked it again when switching to a new tab. It seems that clicking and downloading the remotely hosted version was the issue, that went away when just clicking the oddly placed Install button.

But yeah the other features are neat but if there were one with just the text tool that would be awesome
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No. 24311 ID: b53faa

>>24308
You can change the font size itself back to normal simply by going into the settings and clicking the up arrow once or twice. Least, it looks the same to me.
The font you should choose to make it look most similar was I BELIEVE times new roman, once you have it set to that you should be good to go!
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No. 24312 ID: 9557fa

>>24308
Ah I forgot to update the remote-host.

I also made a new option now, so you can easily switch the font-changing off. a little rearrenging of the options has happened, too.

I can't do much about the oddly placed install button as this is the normal position for the button for all scripts hosted on userscripts.org.
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No. 24319 ID: 148aa5
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24319

This is cool. Certainly an idea worthy of respect, but I admit the only part that I, personally, can regard as 'useful' is the alterations made to the reply form. Happily, it is modular enough that I might deactivate all features but this.

I will say that the changes made to the reply form are very good and I would like to thank you for this contribution.

But like, what is going on here?
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No. 24322 ID: 5aa76e

I dig it. especially the hover to view image and the preview butan. chances are I'd find the textedit thing super useful too if I authored. so, kudos bro.
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No. 24323 ID: 944865

Really liking this (though I did disable the paragraph formatting). But is there some way you could make the hover-images shrink the image if it's larger than the viewer's screen? Because some of the quest authors use pretty large images.
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No. 24325 ID: de262c

I wonder how hard it'd be to check the current style and change the WT colors accordingly? The current pink is a bit ugly.
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No. 24330 ID: 4c45e6

>>24325

Nice>Futaba
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No. 24331 ID: a5e901

>>24330

Pony>all
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No. 24337 ID: 02dc73

Thanks!

Well, there is a difference between "could do that" and "think of my own of doing that", so that's why everything looks like it does.
The current colors are chosen as I like them the most, but I'm also using futaba the most. detecting which style is currently used is very easy (1-2 commands) but what should I do on what style?

As I said before, if you have suggestions for colors/styles or functions, feel free to post them or contact me per mail or deviantart or skype or icq or ...

Keep in mind, that I'm mostly oblivious to negative change-wishes like "I don't like pink" and priories positive change-wishes like "include function that does... remove shadows where... could you use a darker color where...".
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No. 24338 ID: 4c45e6

certain colors, mostly dark and desaturated ones, are really easy on the eyes while also looking quite aesthetic. I really dig those.

deviantART's color scheme would be an example of this.
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No. 24339 ID: 4c45e6

by the way, the auto-re-watch thing is bugged- the notice comes up every time time I refresh. so I had to turn that off.
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No. 24340 ID: 2f4b71

>>24330
>>24331
Burichan Master Race Stylesheet.
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No. 24342 ID: de262c

For reference, the default WT color scheme:

Nice:
>98C1A9 for header
>F0E0D6 for body
>5962AA for subjects
>6D4A7E for OP names

Burichan:
>9988EE for header
>D6DAF0 for body
>0F0C5D for subjects
>117750 for OP names

Futaba:
>EEAA88 for header
>F0E0D6 for body
>CC1105 for subjects
>CC1105 for OP names
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No. 24343 ID: de262c
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24343

On a completely unrelated note, greentext isn't showing up right for me.
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No. 24358 ID: 869f1e

>>24338
>certain colors, mostly dark and desaturated ones, are really easy on the eyes
Well, thanks for the tip^^
The next time I meet a webdesigner I ask him to dark theme with desaturated colors!

>>>24323
>But is there some way you could make the hover-images shrink the image
Isn't that working for you?
for me all Images are resized to 95% screen-size when oversized...
Which Browser are you using? Which version of the script?

>>24339
>by the way, the auto-re-watch thing is bugged
I thought this would be caused by an unsteady internet-connection...
Well, I made some slightly changes, so it should now work a little bit better.
If you want, please try to update and activate the function again for testing.

>>24342
>For reference, the default WT color scheme
Yes, that are the colours used by tgchan's default stylesheets. I'm not quite sure what to do with this list... did I change something...
Ah, I accidentally changed the links per default... I wanted to do that in the inverted scheme, sorry^^
Well, something else you want to show me with this list?^^

>>24319
>But like, what is going on here?
Ah, sorry, I kind of over-read this bug-report. I would guess the script or part of it was called twice... Now I let it check for a bar before inserting one, so it shouldn't happen again...

>>24343
>On a completely unrelated note, greentext isn't showing up right for me.
Thanks for the report!
Yeah, it was kind of strange as the function I called here was already implemented in the site, but would also automatically use a background that would hide the "greentext" (which is white in "nice")...
I used a stylesheet to reset the style of the preview-container to "inherit", so it should now show on all themes


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Current Version v1.55 see first post >>24283
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No. 24359 ID: de262c

>>24358
I'm the guy who was trying to get you to change the WT color scheme. That was a not-so-subtle hint to use those colors.
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No. 24360 ID: 1ebcfb

>>24359
mmh... maybe I just need to know what a WT is, to know what you meant^^
Or do you mean to change the background- and font-colors of the options and watch list?
In hind sight it really makes sense that you pointed out especially these 4 Colours if you meant to have the watch list changed^^
I will do that in the evening (current time here: 9am)
Sorry for not understanding that right of... if I did get it now^^
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No. 24364 ID: 16fde5

Well, I changed the themes and made it switching with style-changes.
I hope I picked the right colours^^
current v1.56
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No. 24366 ID: de262c

>>24364
This is much better, thank you.
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No. 24517 ID: 1ca9d2

>>24358
>Isn't that working for you?
>for me all Images are resized to 95% screen-size when oversized...
>Which Browser are you using? Which version of the script?

Oh, it already has that feature? Well, I just tried reinstalling the script and that works now. So not an issue anymore. Thanks very much! It makes some quests far more readable for me.
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No. 24638 ID: 1ca9d2

Okay, I really love this script, but I started having an issue where threads would remain marked unread even after I read them. I tried turning the 'manage watch list' off and noticed that the default watchlist wasn't popped out. Once I popped it back out and then reactivated that script feature, threads were being marked read just fine. I dunno if it'll be possible or not to do something about that, but either way a headers up.

So it looks like it can manage your watch list even when the website doesn't actually have it active and that causes this odd issue.

Now that I know of this workaround, I can just use it whenever the problem occurs again. I hope this helps anyone else who might suffer this problem before a fix's put out (if one's possible).
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No. 24644 ID: b53faa

Ok, got a bit of weirdness going on. I cant use any of the features, as uh
well
the whole dang thing just vanished on me
the buttons, the tools...
nothing is there, its like the thing was never installed
and yet it IS
any idea whats going on here?
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No. 24646 ID: da4ec6

>>24644
Is Greasemonkey turned on?
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No. 24656 ID: b53faa

>>24646
aye, it is.
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No. 24680 ID: 8c5569

>>24638
mmh... I haven't encountered that yet... I will look into it a bit...
However, I'm currently working on a complete separate watch-system that merly synchronize the watched threads with the internal system, but can also work without. This would make it possible to export the list to a file and load it on other computers or use it as some sort of "accounts" for multiple users behind one IP.
It has also some nice treats like linking to the +50-pages, jumping to the last read post, highlighting differently when new images are posted/author made comments etc. But it's only halfway finished^^
Of course this would be another module that can be turned off to the current behavior or completely off to the tgchan-watchlist.

>>24644
And of course there has to be a check before the script's name to indicate it is active.

If it completly vanishes, it might be a javascript-error.
Press ctrl+shift+j (Firefox or Chrome) to get the error-console open. clear its content, choose the "error"-tab and reload the page.
Now all javascript-errors should be tracked with a link to the script and code-line where the error occurs.
It might also help to post which url (subdomain) you are using for tgchan and what other scripts are affecting the site.
In worst case, you could try to reinstall the script. YOu should restart the browser before installing it again though, otherwise not all saved values might get removed...
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No. 24683 ID: b53faa

>>24680
ok, tried reinstallation and had no luck man
I might need a visual guide for what you are telling me to do with the code checker thing because as I may have mentioned before I am kinda useless when it comes to that stuff
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No. 24720 ID: 0eef61

yeah, it vanished for me too
tried reinstalling w/ no luck
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No. 24721 ID: b53faa

Figured it out man! Try putting or removing www from the url bar.
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No. 24735 ID: ea4b0b

Yo, I hope you get that threadtracker thing going soon man, I just lost all my threads again because of the shitty way it works right now.
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No. 25121 ID: 9c812f

OK, I made a new major update^^
:psycho:

Well, not really, mostly fixes.
However, now the new option "extended watchbar" is available!

->All watched threads are saved within the browser!
->It checks every time you navigate for updates
->it remembers your last viewed post and gives you a link marking it
->it shows you really how many posts have been posted since then.
->if the number is blue, there was a new image posted since you last logged in
->when available, +50-links are used instead of the full pages for the number of new posts.
->when available an additional +50-link is added to the thread-id on the left


Also now the watchbar sorts the boards according to
draw - meep - quest - questdis - tg - questarch

There may be still some bugs, so I encourage anyone to test^^
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No. 25122 ID: 7da04e

I don't know why, but it's refusing to install. It seems to be choking on part with the @match for pages it'll work on. Something about 'invalid hosts'. It's pretty frustrating since I can't see any difference between that section and the one in the previous version.
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No. 25123 ID: 7da04e

Hmm. Actually, looks like it chokes on the *tgchan.org rather than *.tgchan.org
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No. 25124 ID: 802979

... isn't it funny how those match things work when you are editing your script, but not when installing?^^

it should work now again... v1.60 wasted for this^^
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No. 25126 ID: da4ec6
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25126

You broke it even harder now.
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No. 25127 ID: 802979

... ah, I forgot, that those frames even exists^^
I usually come here just by typing tgchan.org/kusaba/quest...
Should be fixed again...
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No. 25129 ID: 7da04e

Alright, the new watch function is cool, but it seems a little bugged in that sometimes the watch for one thread actually seems to go to another thread sometimes. Basically, it seems to index the thread with a different name than it actually has. I wonder if this is an issue with importing old watches--I did notice some initial hiccups while switching over.
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No. 25132 ID: 7da04e

I just tried clearing out my watches and manually re-adding. But the script doesn't seem to want to add Key/Abduction Quest or Static On the Wire to the new watch list. There're likely other threads it hiccups on. I've just disabled the new watch list function and gone back to the old until those sorts of issues're fixed. I really do like the new function though, issues aside.
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No. 25133 ID: 236044

mmh... thanks for testing!
I just tried to add them and they appear to work fine to me...
I currently watch
523576+50____The Book of Worms____Toxoglossa____5
498850+50____Unnatural Selection - Belenosian Interlude 2 (Thread 8)____Alison____0
520658+50____gaffe QUEST____gaffe____0
508227+50____Three Stripes Intermission____Three Stripes____3
515697+50____Polo Quest - Thread 3____Polo____0
512673+50____Story Seeker - Chapter 5____Story Seeker____3
514385+50____ADVOCATE____Sgt. Aiden Schar____2
505569+50____The Creator____Creator____3
503053+50____Asteroid Quest(?) - Thread ???____Suggestion____10
409356+50____necroquest____Pudding____0
478624+50____Wholesome Quest - Chapter 2____salf____3
425677+50____Key Quest____Cthulhlu____0
516189+50____No Title____Wire____0


still kind of strange...
For anyone still experiencing that: open the log-console (Firefox: ctrl+shift+k, Chrome strl+shift+j, switch to console) reload and try again. there might be helpfull messages why the error occurs!
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No. 25134 ID: 7da04e

>>25133
The problems seem to have cleared up for now, after I re-enabled the new watchlist a second time. Kinda strange, really.
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No. 25135 ID: 7da04e
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25135

>>25134
I now have a feature request. I like the highlighting if a thread's had an image uploaded, but could we get an option to selectively enable this kind of highlighting for posts in a thread even if there aren't any images? For example, I'm currently following this thread as well as Cocona Quest which is a low-traffic text quest that doesn't always have images in its updates.

Also, I think the watch list might need widening or at least an option to widen it. It currently wraps around for the thread numbers and such (image enclosed).
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No. 25148 ID: 6a65c4

Now I released v1.65!

I added a little settings-dialog to set it individually whether to highlight the bar on new images.
Also I implemented a search for a specific ID.
When found the number will get a red shadow. Also an option to highlight when this is the case...

There is also a grid on the left of the watchbar now!
It's a bit slow on reaction, but it works and will save the defined width.

line 1445 reached btw^^
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No. 25150 ID: 10ca6c

>>25148
Highlighting for posts from a specific ID! I hadn't thought of that solution. Thanks, that'll help for the text quests I'm following--I can just set it to the ID used by the author.

This is really a great userscript.
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No. 25152 ID: da4ec6
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25152

>oh boy here we go again
Time to roll back to 1.56 again, I guess. Greasemonkey just hates my computer for some reason.

Also, when I first updated, my old watched threads completely fucked up the script. I'll see if I can't get a screenshot.
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No. 25153 ID: da4ec6
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25153

>>25152
Here's the strange behavior I'm talking about. 1.56 to 1.65.
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No. 25154 ID: 3a7ebe

Have you tried to deactivate the extended watchbar and activate it again?
That has helped in the past with those issues...
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No. 25158 ID: 10ca6c

Having used the new features for a while, I think a better option than the ID option (authors can change alias for different characters and/or post from different IPs) would be highlighting threads with new posts that have a subject line. Updates in text quests tend to use subject lines even if they don't use pictures.
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No. 25159 ID: cc1f06

I could reproduce the problem on a laptop I didn't use for some time.
Now it should be backward compatible again.

technical reason: before 1.5 I used a variable to store board and id, divided y : and _.
Then I made my extended watchbar and needed author and title, too.
So I changed the delimiter to chr(11) and chr(12) as : and _ are allowed within title or name. Then I had something else to do and forgot to make some backward compatibility so this got changed...
I think this should be fixed now...

Otherwise, removing the script, restarting the browser and installing it again should also have fixed that...
line 1461 reached
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No. 25160 ID: da4ec6

>>25159
It's working now, thanks.
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No. 25180 ID: 10ca6c

In addition to the earlier request to an additional option to highlight for updates with subject lines, I'd also like to report a minor issue where it seems to include the last previous post before the new post in the new post count (so a quest with one new post will show two new posts). It also takes you to the last old post instead of the first new post when you click on the link.
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No. 25182 ID: e1609c

>>25180
I believe thats just an issue with Kusaba, yo. I recall that stuff happenin' way before BLICK came out, mate
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No. 25183 ID: 1c753d

>>25180
thanks for your report!
>>25182
would be strange if it would work different on a different style as I made the script actually doing that, what is reported.

However, it's not a bug ("but a feature")^^
Well, no, I didn't really put much thought into this as the last post is saved anyway, so I put it into the link. Will change it to the next one, when the update is ready...
About the last read post counting, too... it could be something silly with using substring and indexOf for a key-word counting posts, but then not adding +1 to the index/ substracting 1 from the result as the first word is counted, too...

I also plan on some import/export thingy for the next update...
So, it may take a few days but it will be easier to use it from different computers then. Stay tuned^^
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No. 25184 ID: 13d429

>>25183
Oh, yeah, another feature request: something to recognize if a quest's slid into the archive or graveyard, so I can remove it.
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No. 25186 ID: a01b62

This thread totally read like an informercial. But hey, I'll buy.
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No. 25187 ID: a01b62

Well this is pretty neat. One thing I'm not sure is in but should be: I want to be able to specify an ID I /don't/ want the watched thread to be highlighted for. That way I know when my quest has gotten suggestions.
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No. 25191 ID: ddb3f3

>>25187
Well, yes, my script-presentations usually have the character of advertisement^^ just that there is no * beside the $0!
Once I had to explain in detail why I would offer a script for some forum... free stuff must be adds or virus's, right?^^

About your suggestion, I guess you want to use it when you make a new post and wait for new suggestions... but wouldn't that already work if you just visit your thread after posting a new post? That way you would only get notified about posts of others... ok, currently there is this bug Kaja talked about, that the last post is also counting... but I think it would already work like that when fixed.
So, I'm not a big fan of a blacklist-idea...

Although I thought about working on a function to only show image-posts or posts from a certain id when a button is clicked etc.

>>25184
Nice idea!
next update questarch-numbers will be gray (#333333) and graveyard-numbers red (#dd3333).
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No. 25192 ID: a01b62

>>25191
>wouldn't that already work if you just visit your thread after posting a new post?

Couldn't I just check for updates from my favorite quests by visiting their threads? That's hardly the point.
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No. 25195 ID: ddb3f3

>>25192
ah, I think I didn't say that right...
I mean, when you post a reply and go to the quest-page, then the script would already register your own comment as the latest read one. So, after that without revisiting the quest-page, the script should only react to posts after the one you posted...
I mean, this should be natural behaviour of the script when the quest is visited just after you wrote a reply... a hindrance is of course that you are redirected to the board-page after posting, not the actual quest-site...
Of course there is also the problem that was the start of this function: I have a fast changing ID, so in my case, to blacklist my own ID works a couple of hours...
So I think I'll need a bit more thinking about this feature...
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No. 25196 ID: 13d429

>>25195
It could check the name field (the bit where it says "Kaja" in this post). This only works where the author doesn't change names with characters, though. Another example might be a "NOT" option, where it highlights on posts that aren't image posts, or don't have a subject line (if you put in that feature I suggested).
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No. 25212 ID: 13d429

Bug report: occasionally it seems to hiccup and forget a thread's last read post, so it shows the post count for the entire thread instead and takes you to the start of the thread when clicked.
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No. 25213 ID: 13d429

>>25212
I wonder if it has something to do with me tracking 44 threads with it (I just counted).
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No. 25237 ID: ed8baf

Hello again!

Worked again at some things that might come in handy.

First minor thing, backward compatibility. This update should work again with all older versions.

Then a new feature: import/export!
This can be found within the settings-tab, however, the things to get exported/imported are your watched threads, thread-options and last read posts. Import them on any computer to always stay updated on your watched threads. I recommend saving the file in dropbox/other cloud/your ftp server so you can seamlessly import on your other machines.
this only works with the extended watchbar as the normal integrated one is just a restyled/enhanced version of the inbuilt.

Another feature:
new options for the extended watchbar!
Now you can choose to highlight the whole bar (red shadow) on certain IDs, Names, for Images or for all posts.
You can also ignore posts with images, certain IDs, Names or all post (deactivates highlighting for this thread) with some easy clicks.
Notice that ignoring is stronger than highlighting.
If you ignore a name but highlight images, no highlight will come when this name posts an image.
However, unless ignored the thread-number will change appearance regarding what was detected:
red shadow for id, strikethrough for name, blue color for image.
There are also the +50-links available again that somehow got deactivated sometime...

Also minor thing: the settings-tab got a scroll-bar when the page is too short...

>>25213
Shouldn't be a problem...
I think this was caused by a minor bug messing up internal settings... you might need to update, reload, delete the affected threads and watch them again to clean those settings up, when this keeps occurring.

Of course I also implemented some bugs, because it's so much fun fixing them when reported...

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No. 25238 ID: 13d429

>>25237
A pretty good update. Just one problem. With it set to highlight on all posts, the highlighting for the watchlist bar does work, but the number for new posts isn't changing to blue like it does with new images. Actually, I like the red for matching IDs better than the blue--the latter stands out far less from the green numbers.
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No. 25239 ID: ed8baf

>>25238
Well, the blue is only for images, the red only for id matches...
I tried to make this so that you can easily see how the current status are.
So if you highlight any posts, you likely know that you want to know about any posts submitted... so the any-post-settings got no visible highlight. it is recognizable by reading a value not equal 0.

I also forgot, the numbers are red when the script is still scanning the sources.

So, do you have a nice theme to suggest?
I would really like to indicate different states, so there must be font-effects that are compatible:

scanning - red simple text 0
no posts - green, underlined 0
new posts - green, underlined #

now the compatible ones:
new images - color:blue
ID detected - text-shadow: red 1px 1px
Name detected - text-decoration: strike-through

However, maybe a better ID would be to highlight the whole row when this thread is causing the bar to highlight.
So, e.g. a nice box-shadow, border or background-color effect?
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No. 25242 ID: 13d429

>>25239
A core problem's that threads which you're highlighting for all posts look exactly the same as threads you aren't highlighting for all posts. There's no difference in the green post numbers.

Highlighting the entire row sounds good, though. That'd make it stand out more in general.
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No. 25243 ID: 628b26

Now, when a thread is updated and you set a notification within the extended watchbar, the entire row is coloured.
The color depends on the last checked thing you activated:

All posts: green
Posts by name: red
new Images: blue
Posts by ID: yellow

So if you activate to give notification for all new posts, the row will be highlighted green. if you additionally watch for Names (e.g. Suggestion) the row will be highlighted yellow if a new post of suggestion is detected, otherwise green for new posts.
In other words, priority is set reciprocal to the list I gave above.

The style of new item-numbers should give a clue about the combination with other events you set to be informed about.

Of course, ignoring name, id or all is still stronger than watching that.
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No. 25244 ID: 13d429

Really liking this latest update. It makes it a hell of a lot easier to keep track of my and others' quest.
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No. 25245 ID: a01b62
File 137608817777.png - (32.61KB , 336x668 , broken.png )
25245

Newest update is aces in concept but seems to break even more things.
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No. 25246 ID: 65dac2

>>25245
You mean the "undefined" entry?
have you tried to unwatch & rewatch that thread?
That might be the easiest solution.
Or is this a persistent problem/does occur on other people as well?
Which thread was this before undefined?
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No. 25247 ID: da4ec6

>>25246
I also have that problem whenever "extended watchlist" is checked. It seems to replace this thread on my WT. It does not respond to attempts at removing it.
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No. 25248 ID: 13d429

For another data point, I'm not suffering from this problem. Don't know why they're having it and I'm not.
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No. 25251 ID: 4ef4a8

Well, I also don't have that.
I just deactivated extended watchbar and was prompted that my IP has changed and if I want to rewatch my old list. I said yes and everything seemed to work. I enabled it again and it worked again...
But maybe that are some data-fragments from previous versions.

I released a new Update that checks for corrupt data at some point.
Would you please update to v1.74 and reload the page after checking "extended watchbar"?

If that doesn't help and you use Firefox then you can type "about:config" in your address-bar and there is a text-field where you can type "tgchan".
Then you right-click at the entry "watchids" and choose the lowest ("reset" or something like that). After that you need to reload the tgchan-site and deactivate and activate "extended watchbar". This will reimport all the threads you are currently watching, using the tgchan.org's system.

Of course I would like it much more, when my update is sufficient to help you without making more problems^^
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No. 25281 ID: 13d429

From what I can see, it seems like there's some issue that arises where sometimes the read count resets so that it shows all the posts in the thread. I think this might possibly be caused by deleted posts somehow, but I'm not sure.
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No. 25282 ID: 13d429

Tested and confirmed. I went to the /questdis/ page and deleted the latest post to my own questdis thread that I had made myself straight from that page, without entering the page for the thread. It promptly reset the read count. So it seems like if the post the script's got recorded as the latest one disappears, it can't handle it. Not sure there's an actual good way to fix it.
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No. 25284 ID: 7aacfc

mmh...
That would indeed cause this behavior.
If the No. of the last read thread would disappear (e.g. post removed), It would count all entries...
A fix could be that not one but two or three No. are saved, the last existing one would be the last read...
Still, this would only decrease the probability of incidence.

also noticed is a speed lag in chrome.
somehow, looking up the quests slows down chrome to around a minute while firefox needs 5 seconds...
For that I planned using a eco-mode where only the +50-page is checked instead of the full page. However, this will lead to a constant "50" if you haven't read within the latest 50 posts...
In Firefox, this would be easier as here I can send a Range-Header to specify which byte-parts to download. This is done with the arrow-up-button in the board-sites where you can see additional ~3-5 posts, but only using Firefox.

also though about a "open all updated threads in tabs" button...

DISCUSS!^^
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No. 25285 ID: da4ec6

>>25284
Here's a possible workaround for the deleted post issue:
>script looks for the last post
>if the last post is found, it functions as usual
>if the last post is not found, it starts working backwards until it finds the previous post and just counts from that post instead
So for example, if the recorded last post is 25000 and 25000 is deleted, then the script will then start looking for 24999, 24998 etc until it finds the post before that. Then the script sets that post as the last read post and runs as usual.
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No. 25286 ID: 13d429

>>25285
That wouldn't work. The post numbers're for all posts on the board.
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No. 25305 ID: ed108a
File 137709000347.png - (26.02KB , 280x100 , flyspray_tgchan2.png )
25305

got a little distracted, so no update regarding that...
however, a bug-ticker within my website...
http://phi.pf-control.de/flyspray/index.php?project=2

discussion might be better placed here, but if you register there, you can get notified about updates/your ticket by mail/jabber..
It will also contact me instantly per mail...
Currently it's more of a luck-thingy when I come visit here again^^
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No. 25315 ID: e1609c
File 137764354657.png - (945B , 16x16 , blick.png )
25315

cooked up a little logo thing for this, doubles as a favicon
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No. 25316 ID: e1609c
File 137764370101.png - (3.34KB , 256x256 , blick logo.png )
25316

>>25315
big version
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No. 25616 ID: cf16c8

This continues to be super useful and should be on the first page.
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No. 25647 ID: 3911a1

>>25616
Thanks^^
And I'm still trying to improve it^^
http://dediggefedde.deviantart.com/art/tgchan-Blick-Reader-407593760
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No. 25926 ID: b1d5a6

I fixed some minor things:
-> settings-bar will adapt height better to window
-> scripts works now in questarch
-> some smaller bugs

And I added a new feature:
You can now sync settings, last read pages and watched threads directly over my server.
As everything else, this is optional.
To register an account there, you need a mail-adress.
http://phi.pf-control.de/tgchan/interface.php

After making a valid name-mail-password combination, you get a verfication-mail with a shiny button.
Then you can fill in your name and password within the settings-bar and either down- or upload your settings per hand.

If you want to have individual settings but same watched threads on all pcs, you can set that in the web-page after logging in.

For me this feature works far more comfortable than the import/export function. ^^

Later the accounts on phi.pf-control.de will be used for future features...
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No. 25954 ID: e1609c

you know we should really get this pinned to the top here like quest advice is over in /dis/. this is a comparably useful thing and it gets buried a lot under other threads.
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No. 25999 ID: e1609c

you should probably add some /graveyard/ support to this, I noticed it doesn't work there.
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No. 26013 ID: a74c01

>>25999
Thanks for the mention!
It should work now within graveyard.
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No. 26024 ID: 15452d
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26024

http://dediggefedde.deviantart.com/art/tgchan-Blick-442064861
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No. 26038 ID: e1609c

Another board to be added, yo: kusaba/moo
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No. 26039 ID: 2c6ff1

>>26038
DO NOT DO THAT.
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No. 26040 ID: d315b1

>>26038
There is no such board.
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No. 26111 ID: 8af63e

new idea: quest2pdf

someone put a lot effort in making a pdf from old polo-quests, so I thought of making a LaTeX-file automatically with the script.
There will be some options to choose from, e.g.:
1. [y/n] only author-posts
2. [###] minimum suggestion length
3. [y/n] only images from author-ID

The script will then create a zip-archive which contains all the images from the board and a few .tex files.

These .tex can be compiled (e.g. with miktex for Windows) and made into .pdf (or .dvi or .ps, just what you like).

There will be multiple .tex files to make a choice of templates. As they are simple text-files, you can also freely open and edit them, if you want to change some colors.

For now, I fiddled around with the first template. The resulting .pdf in A5-format can be viewed here:
http://phi.pf-control.de/tgchan/scientific.pdf

If you know LaTeX and have a great idea for a template, feel free to send me the file and I will implement it.
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No. 26126 ID: e1609c

good shit, man. Could be useful for archiving things.
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No. 26127 ID: 6cfde9

I finished the basics for converting.
currently it's an external script that takes all posts on the site for the pdf. Also, posts with images are deemed to be from the author and regarding aligned.

As you know, animated gif and swfs won't work in pdf.
However, I still think it's an interesting feature as pdfs can also be read on ebooks... and it's a little more comfortable...

So far, I tried it with the recent
Unnatural Selection - Belenosian Interlude 3 (Thread 9)
Generating the .tex-file takes 10 s.
grabbing all images around 20 s.
Conversion of gif to png takes 1 s.
Compiling the file takes another 30 s.

so, basically you have to click 4 times in 1 minute to generate this:
http://phi.pf-control.de/tgchan/Unnatural_Selection__Belenosian_Interlude_3.pdf

I also designed the template to be easily understood and adaptable, in case you know some better layout:
http://phi.pf-control.de/tgchan/scientific.tex

However, in the end you will need some freeware to compile the tex-file. For windows I recommend TeXnicCenter and MikTeX. you will also need to make a check in the package-manager of miktex for every package used within the template, if you want to compile boards yourself.

There also may be a few bugs regarding formatting as it's not quite easy to convert HTML into LaTeX automatically, but I guess it's fine at the moment.

Enjoy 420 pages Unnatural Selection^^
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No. 26136 ID: 408618

Changed some formatting to fix some problems.
1. typewrited paragraphs are now justified mostly correctly.
2. nestes formatting is now translated correctly.

for javascript-knowers:
first I used Regexp with a /<span>(.*?)<\/span>/g tag, however, this fails whenever there is some nestes span:
<span red><span italic></span></span>
So now I use a for-loop to go through the text and a stack. span-formatting will push the needed anti-format onto the stack and </span> takes the last stack to insert into the document.

I updated the pdf linked above...
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No. 26162 ID: b32bcb

I revised a few things again and made some gui.
actually it's a finished script and I just need to copy-past it into tgchan_BLICK and link it to some button...

To show off, I made 3 Versions of the first "unnatural selection" thread in different Versions.
As this is using templates to generate, appearance can be changed easily. It also still only takes 2 Minutes to download and compile one Version. Of course, you need to do some minor fixing, like adjusting the author's name and your own as the "compiler", if you like...

currently, 2 themes are available: "scientific" with 30% wide images on the left side for author's posts and "bigthumbs" with 80% wide Images centered at the beginning of each post. also some minor differences.

Scientific, all posts, only author-images, identified by ID:
http://phi.pf-control.de/tgchan/unnatural_selection_1_scientific_all.pdf

Scientific, only author-posts, identified by ID:
http://phi.pf-control.de/tgchan/unnatural_selection_1_scientific_authors.pdf

BigThumbs, only author-posts, identified by ID:
http://phi.pf-control.de/tgchan/unnatural_selection_1_bigthumb_authors.pdf

I still hope someone makes nicer templates than I do^^
They are also still in A5-format, if someone cares...
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No. 26163 ID: f7246f
File 139809784017.png - (34.62KB , 552x409 , tgchanzip.png )
26163

Integrated.

also a bug fixed with the watchbar and posts moved into the archive.
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No. 26166 ID: e1609c

(posting on dediggefedde's behalf here, since he's havin' issues. Proofread also, because boredom)
[7:30:29 PM] Julian:
>>81120
Sorry to hear you don't like being part of our madness...
I didn't think it to be that bad... but I'm also not often in the chat^^

Anyway, here is a little .pdf file of the Advocate prologue.
scribd.com/doc/219946884/Advocate-Prologue-pdf
(PDFs aren't able to be uploaded here, plus the max-filesize is 10mb)

If there is any positive reactions from anyone, I would gladly prove my interest in this quest by uploading the other 2 chapters.

Also hope to make it 3^^
Who else wants to see "Exodus" ?^^
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No. 26350 ID: ca0da5

Nevermind the bump somehow GreaseMonkey got disabled.
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No. 26376 ID: d315b1

userscripts.org is kill, can you put up a mirror of the latest version?
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No. 26381 ID: eff132

>>26376
Sure^^
http://phi.pf-control.de/userscripts/tgchan-BLICK/923627.user.js
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No. 26382 ID: eff132

by the way, there is also a little webpage, mainly for the new sync-feature.
http://phi.pf-control.de/tgchan/interface.php
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No. 26391 ID: 0d6864

>>26381
Might want to try uploading it to https://greasyfork.org/ It's a replacement for the Userscripts site created by the guy behind Userstyles (yes, they're different people).
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No. 26408 ID: e1609c

>>26391
/questarch support appears to be a bit borked, images arent getting bigger as I mouse over them there.
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No. 26523 ID: 189a54

Uh, my watchlist seems to have glitched and that toolbar over the message box has disappeared. I've tried reinstalling several times without anything changing...does anybody know how to fix this? D:
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No. 26557 ID: d8a627

Uh, is there an option to go to the first new post, rather than the first new image-containing post? I kind of like reading suggestions and stuff too, not just looking at the pretty pictures.
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No. 26568 ID: f8780d

>>26557
When you watch a thread you can click the little disk-icon on the line.
If you switch on Highlight on: "All new posts" you get notified whenever a post is added there.
The number displayed is the post-number since your last visit. When clicked, it will link you to the last post you read.
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No. 26597 ID: d8a627

>>26568
I only want it to highlight when there's an image update, but doing so results in clicking the number causing it to go to that first image post, rather than the next unread post. I'd have to make it highlight all the time to fix that, but I don't wanna.
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No. 26640 ID: 12d18d

I made a little benchmark and were able to make it a little faster...
1st: the watchbar is now 50 ms faster for each thread you watch. 20 threads -> 1 s faster.
2nd: format is no longer waiting for the icon-list to fully load. Now it is loading almost instantly while the icon-list is loaded in background.

>>26597
sorry, I haven't worked at that so far...
I guess it would be best to have an option what exactly to hightlight...
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No. 27034 ID: 86f9ed

v 1.86
Added support for the secret tgchan-cow-phrase board...
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No. 27616 ID: edea14

Hi again!

I fixed some bugs regarding online-syncing.
the registration process was bugged, so you would have had an account but wouldn't be able to use it for syncing. When I was testing this back then, I must have generated the database entries manually or mixed something up later on.
Anyway, for those that want to give it a try: it seem to work now with 2 dummy accounts I created.

Regarding those that already made an account: I went through your database entries and corrected them by hand, so it should also work for you now.


Another coming Update with a bigger feature is the PDF export feature. Some of you may know you can popup a small dialog exporting all images to a .zip file and creating a .tex file, which can be converted to .pdf with some free compiler. This required you to download and install a ~300MB programm most of you would never have used otherwise... so... I discarded this in the next version.

Instead I made a js-request to the jspdf library, which can create pdf's directly. Downside is I had to write wordwrap, pagebreak, formatting and image-embedding myself, but actually it was fun^^
So, the next update will have a new dialog where you can convert any thread you like within 1-3 minutes to a pdf file, e.g. to read offline, archivate, print or put onto some mobile reader.
There will be some nice settings to choose from and reflinks (>>ones) will let you jump to the post, if it is shown.

I'm a bit too sick at the moment to put out the update and do some proof-checking, but in the meantime have an example pdf:
https://onedrive.live.com/download?cid=8727E57070314457&resid=8727E57070314457%21760&authkey=ALcLlrjKvL0xfg8
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No. 27629 ID: 6ba3fb
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27629

An Install Link again in case you can't find one:
http://phi.pf-control.de/userscripts/tgchan-BLICK/923627.user.js

Now you can export a quest into a PDF with a few clicks.

At the bottom of the blue tab there will now be an "open dialog" button which will open the dialog I posted a screenshot of in this post.
There you can do some settings. To Include all Posts, leave the include-field empty. Otherwise use a comma separated list of names, ids or post No. to be included. Image-Quality will effectivly reduce the image size to the percentage number you give (e.g. 50 will use images with 50% width and height of the original). This will increase pdf generation and reduce pdf file size.

As far as I can tell, all tgchan formats are supported including those small icons. Reference Links (>>Number) can be clicked and focus on their post when it is included. Fractured texts with those crazy symbols above/below will turn to garbage, though.
Flash-files not be printed, animated gif and apng will only have their first frame in the pdf.

This will request now the jsPDF library and some kind of API I've written to make pagebreak, wordwrap, capsuled formatting, clickable links and references and img prefetching work.

If anyone wants to use the API I've written, feel free to do so. ^^

Examples of Outputs are Fidchels Advocate Chapters:
prelude: http://dediggefedde.deviantart.com/art/Advocate-Prologue-449982317
ch1: http://dediggefedde.deviantart.com/art/Advocate-chapter-1-451946325
ch2: http://dediggefedde.deviantart.com/art/Advocate-chapter-2-510019207
ch3: http://dediggefedde.deviantart.com/art/ADVOCATE-Chapter-3-578583463
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No. 27662 ID: f56624

bumping this a bit
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No. 27727 ID: 395c02

Should this thread be stickied, you think?

(ye)
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No. 27731 ID: 595d54

I'll always miss the newfriend who was worried about the powerful memeing.
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No. 27733 ID: fe41a4

>>27727
Personally I don't mind, because I use this script to keep track of this thread ;) .
But as some are using it and think it's good, others might find it easier and test it out if it were presented in a sticky thread.

>>27731
Missing a new friend is always sad!
I hope I understood you correctly, though... I was thinking about your comment for 10 minutes, but I couldn't really see a connection to this thread...
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No. 27734 ID: 91cfcf

>>27733
You never saw the previous sticky thread?
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No. 27735 ID: 3b79fb

>>27734
... Maybe?
Usually I read all threads/quests on tgchan...
Wasn't it >>364 ?
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No. 27736 ID: 91cfcf

>>27735
No. It was >>27018 for a long while.
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No. 27788 ID: 6c2925

Current download-Link:
http://phi.pf-control.de/userscripts/tgchan-BLICK/923627.user.js

Thought I would post something informatical again...

Originally this script was made for rheuma-online.de/forum which is a forum dedicated to german people suffering from rheumatism. In some cases this can affect the eyes, which apparently can lead to some destructive processes if unnoticed, including an overpressure leading to glaucoma. This was the case for a relative of mine and after the initially therapies (medicaments, laser-operation etc.) was over, she had like 20% left and 7% right remaining eyesight. With some tools she was still able to read and wanted to participate in the forum, but the layout is very taxing on the eye and using browser magification tools (e.g. ctrl & +) will make the comment section far too small.

So, back then I wrote a little userscript to make it easier for her to read the forum: hiding sidebars, increasing only font size, choosing font face, inverting colours etc. What really helped her were of course some later treatments, including a pretty risky operation (~ 70% of success, 30% that your blind afterwards), and weekly needed syringes, so nowadays she can see pretty good again.

Then at some point where I was still reading the tgchan archives and graveyard (finished some years ago), I got pretty tired eyes, remembered the script and rewrote it a bit for tgchan... and didn't really stop developing...

Once in a while I still have some ideas I deem nice and try to implement in tgchan_BLICK. ^^
However, what's also pretty interesting in my opinion is, that in that rheumatic site I was almost immediately accused of writing and spreading a virus because I didn't take money for the script...

In case you didn't know, you can also always post hopes and dreams, I mean suggestions here, if you have any.^^ Might just take a while for me to get to them...

... I browsed the icon list, so have a smiling baj from Battle Quest^^
Although this icon was apparently never used outside of the discussion >>/questdis/75048
:baj:
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No. 27812 ID: 93244f

Maybe a functionality to personalize the colors of the site?
I'm not a huge fan of the inverted colors setting, and neither am I a fan of the default site colors.
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No. 27813 ID: 6c2925

>>27812
Hi!
What kind of settings would you like to personalize?
There are already tgchan-integrated schemes (Burichan, Futaba, Nice und Pony) by the way... Usually I prefer Futaba. ^^
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No. 27831 ID: 15a025

>>27813
Nice is also a nice one as well.
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No. 27838 ID: 2f5847

>>27831
I favor Nice. Seems to make the images stand out, especially the colors.
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No. 27847 ID: f562b1

Hey, something goofed and this stopped working. I even restarted my browser to try and fix it. Any idea what's going on? I had so many saved threads and now I have to go and manually find them all again :(
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No. 27848 ID: f562b1

>>27847
NEVERMIND. TGChan goofed and added a security channel. I realized my settings had HTTP while TGChan now had HTTPS.
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No. 27852 ID: 5542ea

Hi! Thanks for the notice!
I wouldn't call it a bug on tgchan but a feature when https was added...
The script should also work on https now:
http://phi.pf-control.de/userscripts/tgchan-BLICK/923627.user.js
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No. 27853 ID: f562b1

>>27852
I pretty much updated it myself to include both Secure and the old list of URLs. Is there anything else to the update, or am I good to go?
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No. 27854 ID: 5542ea

Not really. Hadn't much time, so the last bigger update was on the pdf-export and login system.

Make sure to disable automatic updates or set the version number to something unreasonable high, if you want to preserve any changes you make on your own!
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No. 28065 ID: b9aa79

Hey question- I see a lot of people throw "fag" around- writefaggotry drawfaggotry tripfag namefag etc etc. Does that mean something other than faggot? Like the slur? Or does it mean that and just no one cares
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No. 28066 ID: a788b7

>>28065

noone cares
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No. 28069 ID: 9876c4

>>28065
It's chanspeak for fan or otaku. Writefag=writer, or aficionado of writers.

Generally someone getting offended is a good sign they need to leave.
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No. 28073 ID: 383927

>>28069
I could kinda guess what it meant I just couldn't tell if it was supposed to be derogatory, like frat boys calling each other pussies and then goading each other into doing stupid shit
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No. 28075 ID: 9f3729

>>28073
it is pretty much exactly that, people who put too much stock in chan dwellers hold it up as some kind of anti-pc police litmus test to scare off people with thin skin but it's really always just kinda been edge for the sake of edge

not that it doesn't in part achieve that pedestaled end sometimes, lest we forget the ill-thought-out time tumblr tried to raid fourchan and got like three months of dedicated gore and beastiality spam in fandom tags for their efforts thanks to their complete unfamiliarity with the 4chan ways
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No. 28088 ID: a788b7

>>28075

It's not really even derogatory at all, it's used more in a self-deprecative manner than anything else. It basically means 'just some ordinary schmuck' at this point.
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No. 28090 ID: 383927

>>28088
>not really even derogatory
>it's used more in a self-deprecative manner than anything else

Self deprecating is still derogatory, it just includes you along with whatever group of people you're throwing under the bus as undesirable
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No. 28092 ID: 52d0bb

>>28065
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Fags_of_4chan
This should clear up any confusion. In the future, consider starting a new thread for a new topic.
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No. 28104 ID: b9aa79

Sorry it was originally a question that turned into a topic of it's own. I just have a very uncomfortable personal past with the word so it always rubs me the wrong way. I appreciate the article, but just fyi when they talk about the origin of the word, they're referencing a scene in a movie which isn't really factually informed; I appreciate the source but they don't seem to have done the bare minimum of a google search so I'm not sure how reliable anything on that page is beyond personal opinion. Next time I'll make a new thread though, again apologies for clogging up this one.
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No. 28106 ID: 3abd97

>>28104
The article is primarily about usage and meaning of a word within the confines of a specific culture- the actual factual correctness of the historical usage is largely irrelevant. I'd say that's better viewed as a kind of lore or mythos- factually questionable, but potentially offering insight to the people or peoples who hold onto that myth. The stories peoples and cultures tell themselves are worth considering when you try to study or understand them.

And yes, that article is subjective and not evidence based- it's the work of (an) insider(s) describing the perceived colloquial use within their own subgroup, not the work of someone trying to objectively study it.
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No. 28179 ID: b9aa79

Does anyone know what's up with the weird teen-porn-esque and actual porn threads that keep popping up? I've been reporting them as spam but I don't know if that's the right way to handle it
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No. 28181 ID: d95874

>>28179

Some bot, I guess. I've been reporting them when I see them as well.

If anyone knows, would it be possible to create some sort of filter that automatically refuses posts that include that link of theirs in any field?
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No. 28185 ID: 395c02

>>28181
There is a spam filter and I've been adding stuff to it constantly. A lot of stuff is getting through, but a far greater amount is being stopped at the door (judging from the ban list).

As you may know, reporting any threads with 0 replies automatically deletes it (I don't know if it bans anyone, though)

We may have to make the new-thread captcha a site-wide thing, since it looks like /quest/ has comparitively little spam.
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No. 28188 ID: cf85b0

Weirdly, it seems like they're still getting in, which raises the question of why they don't appear on /general/ and /quest/.
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No. 28191 ID: 2c2c4f

Looks like another crowd getting through now, too, and on all the active boards as far as I can see.
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No. 28193 ID: 4863e5

Is there some function to automatically block any new thread that contains a link in any of its fields? That would probably stop them.

It'd mean people can't link previous or questdis threads in quest OPs anymore, but they could just put them in a follow-up post.
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No. 28195 ID: 3abd97

>>28193
Not being able to put links in the OP would be really annoying tho, since the OP is displayed when a thread is shown in a board, an in the abbreviated last 50 / last 100 forms. Makes the links to the wiki / last threads / dis / whatever always accessible.

You lose that convenience and would have to open the full thread every time you wanted the links. Assuming the reader knows they're there.
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No. 28196 ID: af6e04

>We may have to make the new-thread captcha a site-wide thing

Honestly that's A-OK with me, as long as it staunches the flow of CP spam.
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No. 28200 ID: 49fe0f

>>28196

I've been seeing new-thread captchas on all boards for some time, and it doesn't seem to have done anything.
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No. 28202 ID: af6e04

>>28200
Sorry, you're right. I didn't realize this when I posted my reply.
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No. 28206 ID: 395c02

Converting the captcha to Recaptcha is being considered, clearly the kusaba one is woefully insufficient.

Unless it's not bots doing this... if that's the case, there might not be anything we can do short of requiring everyone to register (yeah THAT'D go well :X)
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No. 28215 ID: b9aa79

I've been seeing a lot of them so I'm assuming that A) they were bots and B) it's working out okay. Unless others are just much faster on the ball than I am at catching and removing these unwanted hooligans
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No. 28219 ID: 395c02

Turns out the answer was to improve the spam filter's coverage. It went from mall cop to robocop.
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No. 28224 ID: 398fe1

>>28219
Hooray!
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No. 28336 ID: 398fe1

Since this seems to be the general thread for site related discussions, I just had an idea for eliminating votestuffing that I wanted to share and ask if it's feasible.

When you visit the site it could ask what your zip code is, or similar general-location-identifying information. It compares this to the location attached to your IP address. If they match, you're let in (and sets a cookie so it doesn't have to ask you repeatedly). If they don't match, then obviously you're using an anonymizer, right? Those all hand out random IPs from the giant network of proxies, so you don't even know what your own IP is.

I suppose there could be problems with this, though. People can always just vote with their phones for a duplicate vote, for instance.
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No. 28338 ID: 1be618

>>28336
As far as I know, this is NOT the general site discussion thread. It is used to describe and provide a userscript I once wrote and maintain. For further information, see the opening post.
What I did was asking for ideas to further improve the script. I guess that's why people think now, this is the general discussion thread.
But then again, that's entirely up to the community and moderators. ^^

General site discussions are... not collected somewhere else yet? I thought I remembered seeing some thread, but it's probably dead...

About the idea:
The main idea of this board design is to keep being anonymous if wanted. So at least I don't want to give the site my location.
Restriction for yourself would be... if you access the site on a mobile device, can you always tell the local zip code? In a train ride through the country? On vacation? What if you need to use a vpn, for example because the wlan provider uses one.
And regarding bots and such... since you compare the manual typed in code with an automatically generated location, bots can do that in advance, too.
And if you are a person, you typically can also find out the location of your ip adress in advance.
Aside from that at the realization point, you need to find a zip code system, that is working worldwide. in the US you have something like 22162–1010 according to wikipedia. in Germany for example we have 20251 for Alsterdorf near Hamburg. How about Russia, India etc. ?
All those different systems would need to get implemented to compare them with the ip. provided that all nations actually have a code similar to zip...
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No. 28363 ID: 06c323

Hi again!

Important notice: the update system of the previous versions might got broken at some point. To make sure you receive updates to this script again, please install it again:

http://phi.pf-control.de/userscripts/tgchan-BLICK/tgchan-BLICK.user.js



:baj: Now about updates:

:dq_char_3: I sped the script up a bit (20-fold or so). Loading tgchan.org with BLICK should not slow it down anymore.
:dq_char_2: The icon picker input form (second last button) was reworked with a preview, a lazy-loader and a text search.
:dq_char_3: PDF-Export is reworked and works a bit faster now.
:dq_char_2: Deactivating the new AutoUpdate watchlist-option, the script will not request news for all your watched threads on every pageload for extended watchbar.
:dq_char_3: Instead you get a refresh-button at the top of the extended watchbar.
:dq_char_2: extended watchbar changing size was fixed to go a bit more smoothly
:dq_char_3: extended watchbar will automatically link +50.html, +100.html or .html sites depending on your last seen post.
:dq_char_2: most browsers freeze when more than 3 parallel update requests are send, so extended watchbar will now limit itself to 2 parallel requests.


Some Programmer information:
I ditch JQuery to make it a little more lightweight and reworked most functions with JSHint.
If anyones interested in statistics:
>There are 112 functions in this file.
>Function with the largest signature take 4 arguments, while the median is 0.
>Largest function has 103 statements in it, while the median is 4.
>The most complex function has a cyclomatic complexity value of 43 while the median is 2.

^^
:adjutantlookingaway::adjutantsweating::adjutantdetermined:
:charlesblush::foxushock::baj:
:-a::achievementyorick1::-um:
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No. 28369 ID: 383927

I recently tried to go on the tgchan CoffeeMUD site, but couldn't quite figure it out. Forums hadn't had any conversation on them in over a year, so I figured asking for help/advice here might be the best place. Is there a tutorial somewhere I can read up on to figure out how it works?
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No. 28371 ID: 398fe1

>>28369
You want this thread >>27229
I used MUSHclient, it worked pretty well.
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No. 28383 ID: 67d5dc
File tgchans_BLICK_wbar.dat - (31.21KB )
28383

My watchlist fucked up weirdly.

The order is reversed now, showing quest dis at the top and scrolling down from newest to oldest. It used to do the reverse.

All titles are off by one entry. The links/num replies will be to say, Coxette but the title will be fen quest, and so on down the line with the title moved up to the next newest slot. Progenitor is my most recent watch and is not listed at all, though it is linked.

A large number of older entries have been changed, now reading No Author - Anonymous for title and author, despite having valid (and correct?) links attached.

Not sure why this happened, I haven't updated to your new version yet. Attached is my archive log.
I looks kinda, irrecoverable.

Oh well.
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No. 28406 ID: 67d5dc

Is there a way to watch a thread from inside the thread? Would make it much easier to rebuild my list.
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No. 28407 ID: 7ec256

Thanks for the report and the idea!
Sorry for the late response, I was offline for a week.
Also sorry for the inconvenience.

~230 entries, that's a pretty long list. ^^
I'm working on something that can restore faulty databases. Currently it can restore the original list from the file you sent me, but fails to save the restored list internally. I might need a few days for that.
I will probably not be able to fix the order, though...

However, ordering by the time you added the thread is also a bit unintuitive. WOuld perhaps a different order be better (topics, times, ids)?

I will add a button for adding the current thread to the watchlist then, too.
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No. 28408 ID: 67d5dc

Hey, thanks for the reply at all, I was fairly sure I'd just have to restart as though I were a new bob.
And thanks for really and for true for setting up the script. It is so much better than any vanilla way of tracking threads.

I actually like the order change. Having the more recent ones load first is useful since they tend to update more often. Having it sorted by most recent post time would probably be my ideal, but I'd make do with anything sane, like the current reversed order.

Since I have your ear, have you considered a sort of folder/collapsible that graveyarded threads get moved into? If you only updated them when the user opened the collapsible you could save some cpu cycles that would likely go wasted checking 230 long dead threads.

Take all the time you need tho. It may be messed up and weird, but its still functional on my end.
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No. 28414 ID: a86b83

I was able to fix a few bugs and partly broken import files are now repaired when quest updates are requested. Didn't work on the graveyard/questarch section yet, though.
In the past, I usually removed dead/finished threads from my list by hand, so I didn't really though of this sooner. ^^

Download : http://phi.pf-control.de/userscripts/tgchan-BLICK/tgchan-BLICK.user.js


Release notes for Version 2.16:

* watchbar quest names and authors are now fetched from the quests on update requests.
* fixed some issues for width-changing the watchbar
* watchbar is using flex-layout now. Looks a bit nicer/tidier on very small an large widths
* sometimes +50 sites were linked when there were <50 posts, leading to 404 pages.
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No. 28415 ID: 67d5dc

Its fixed! you rock!
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No. 28435 ID: 1976b9

HOW HAVE I ONLY FOUND THIS NOW HOW DO I MAKE WORK1!
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No. 28436 ID: 2e9054

>>28435
Probably because almost no one reads the /meep/ section? ^^
If you want to use the script, you need a browser-extension for userscripts first.
Tampermonkey now supports Chrome, Opera and Firefox (and almost every other browser). The original extension was Greasemonkey for Firefox. In Opera, the original would be ViolentMonkey.
Scriptish often doesn't work as expected with my scripts, so I don't recommend it here.

Once that is installed, click the download-link to the .user.js file again and it will be installed in your browser.

GreaseMonkey (Firefox): https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/greasemonkey/
ViolentMonkey (Opera): https://addons.opera.com/de/extensions/details/violent-monkey/?display=en
Tampermonkey (Chrome, Firefox, Oper, Microsoft Edge, Safari, Dolphin): https://tampermonkey.net/?ext=dhdg&browser=chrome

Download link to the script:
http://phi.pf-control.de/userscripts/tgchan-BLICK/tgchan-BLICK.user.js
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No. 28438 ID: 5844bb

YOU ARE FUCKING CREDIT TO TEAM
ALL TEAM EVER!!
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No. 28485 ID: 67d5dc

Bug report:

The most recent unread post link will sometimes go to a +50 link when the thread does not yet have 50 posts.

Impquest did this for me, currently at 49 posts.
https://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/794345.html

Maybe it doesn't track deleted posts well?
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No. 28624 ID: e36c7f

This still seems to be the closest thing to a site issues thread, aside from the quest advice thread in /questdis/ which I don't want to clutter with tech support, so...

I can't access the wiki any more. I was already unable to use tgchan.org or b.tgchan.org, but I used to be able to use c.tgchan.org and thatquestsite.org. Now, since the last time the site went down, c.tgchan.org doesn't work any more, and while I can still use thatquestsite.org to see the quest board itself, it doesn't work for the wiki.

When I click on any of the tgchan.org/wiki/ links of the type people link at the top of their quests, I get redirected to an error 404 page for some italian online movie website called "Altadefinizione HD".
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No. 28628 ID: 673643

>>28624
That sounds like a DNS problem. Have you tried flushing your cache and maybe changing your DNS server?
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No. 28633 ID: e36c7f

>>28628

I've tried both those things. No change for tgchan.org and variants, though at some point I became capable of using the wiki through thatquestsite.org again.
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No. 28647 ID: 2870fe

Sounds like you have some malware installed on your comp and it's redirecting you or poisoning your DNS cache. Go clean up your comp.
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No. 28802 ID: 0a47d8

I am experiencing severe lag while loading tgchan using this plugin, although it runs fine once it has finished loading. I just installed it the other day, and it is running in tampermonkey on chrome on win10. Are other people having this issue, or am I missing somtehing? Thanks for the help.
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No. 28815 ID: 67d5dc

To anyone using Greasemonkey with Firefox who has lost the use of this script in the recent update, try switching to http://tampermonkey.net/ , as it still works.

I haven't worked out how to import an old watch list tho.
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No. 28816 ID: 430719

Hi!
The last greasemonkey update broke all my userscripts...
Since the new greasemonkey is incompatible with old scripts and old Greasemonkey versions are incompatible with new scripts.

I assume Tampermonkey will sooner or later also switch to the new Greasymonkey API calls.
This means for you, that switching browsers or browser versions will only be a temporary solution.

---Important part---
I just finished a slight rework of the script that is now compatible with the new Greasemonkey, the old Greasemonkey and Tampermonkey.
It also seems to work with watchbar-network-synchronization, watchbar-file-import or just using the old watchbar data.

Please update to the new version v2.20!
Install: http://phi.pf-control.de/userscripts/tgchan-BLICK/tgchan-BLICK.user.js

In case something went wrong, I still have v2.16, which is likely to stop working soon on tampermonkey...
http://phi.pf-control.de/userscripts/tgchan-BLICK/tgchan-BLICKv216.user.js

--- ---

Especially in Tampermonkey there was a problem were Regexp was interpreted differently as in Greasemonkey.
This made it impossible to load old watchbar files and eventually slowed the browser down.
This got fixed in the update as far as my tests went.

I might have introduced some additional errors, since there were some major reworks done.
Everyone is using asynchronous calls nowadays, which is the main reason the old script broke.

what once was
var value=GM_getValue("storedValue");
alert(value);
is now
var value=null;
var prom=(async function(){value=await GM.getValue("storedValue");})();
prom.then(function(){alert(value);});
(not a fan of the new arrow functions yet...)

In this example a synchronous call would be better, but there are many spots in the code, where the second way is actually increasing the script's speed.
You might notice a speed increase in the new version.

I also dropped the fallback to localStorage since the storage-limit was too low for a moderate watch-list anyway.
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No. 28817 ID: cf5a32

>>28816
Thanks! I noticed that my two little nubs were suddenly missing and immediately hopped over here to mention it. Glad to see you hopped on it first!
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No. 28818 ID: bfb318

Thanks my dude, it is a good good script.
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No. 28830 ID: 9d4af9

The script seems to be broken on Tampermonkey 4.4, using script version 2.20.
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No. 28863 ID: 47d09d

Hi everyone!
It seems that some part of jsPDF broke, which the script used to convert quests into pdfs.
I didn't have much time to revise the interface for that script, so I decided to disable to feature for now.
I'm not sure if anyone was actually using it...

So, with v2.21 the quest-to-pdf convertion is disabled and thus it seems to work in chrome again.
Firefox didn't have any issues with it as it seems.

I might be fixing the feature in a future update if anyone is actually missing it. ^^
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No. 28903 ID: 094652

>>28863
Personally, I'm worried that one day the server
and backups will get corrupted and some of our favorite archived quests might be lost forever. It's not likely, but life happens.

We don't need a pdf so much as an executable file that can be used with a web browser to check stuff. It can be buggy as long as it has all the relevant data. You'd have to scrub it of personal data, and save a screenshot from image links so they won't depend on the internet.

We could vote on which quests get this treatment so this only needs to be done with popular stories. The plus side of this is that you can put any long-but-popular quests into a zip file and send that to be downloaded, so the server doesn't get constant requests for web pages from the archives.
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No. 28965 ID: b71ef1
28965

So...
Apparently, Greasemonkey made an update for firefox for android. And now I just checked the script on my own smartphone. Everything seems to work. With the sync-feature, I can even synchronize between desktop and smartphone.

So, if you use firefox for android and the recent version of Greasemonkey there, the script will also work on your smartphone.

I will check during the following days for any bugs. Please feel free to comment, if you find bugs yourself.
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No. 28966 ID: b71ef1

DSGVO (EU-Datenschutz-Grundverordnung) and Datenschutzerklärung

I added some privacy policy information on the website regarding the script-accounts.

As you may know, the script offers you to create an account, so you can synchronize watched threads, read posts and bar settings.
Since I and the server is located in Germany, the new European DSGVO rule applies.
In summary, you need to be informed and asked about any of your data saved by any European website. You also gained the right to be forgotten on demand (aka data deletion).

In this case, you need your email-address, a username and a password to register. This is of course stored. In case of the password, a one-way-encrypted hash is stored. For the activation link, the date of your registration is stored. The website-hoster also has an access-log where your IP-address is stored, but not connected to your account.
When you press the "Upload"-button in the script, a list of the ids of your watched threads, last seen posts and script settings are sent and stored on the website. Aside from that I don't gather or save any data of you.
If you don't use an account, no data is gathered from you.
For a more detailed privacy policy, please visit the website http://phi.pf-control.de/tgchan/interface.php.


Android-Tests
I did some further tests on Android with the recent Firefox and I like it so far. ^^
Especially increasing the font size while keeping margins and images is great on small screens. The synchronization also appears to work.
Image-hover does not really feel right, though. When you tap on an image, it is opened in a new tab AND the hover appears. This you will notice when going backward after clicking an image. Maybe I disable the normal click-behavior on very small screens and change it to double-tap to open an image in a new tab.


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