Also to respond to genesis' new design.

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The extra arms can be used for another beast. We never really experimented with creatures with more than two arms. Besides, this will work pretty well for baby's first sentient species.

Genesis 2011/09/18(Sun)12:42 No. 350106 ID: 700bab
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>>350091

My name is Aldaren.

One desert planet, coming up! ...Wait, this might be way too hot for creatures of flesh encased in plates of copper and iron!

Ok, move the sun away a bit Aldaren. It doesn't need to be completely desert. Add some planes, a couple of lakes and rivers. Basically, a place where all our current creatures can live.

Deserts don't necessarily have to be hot. To be a desert it just needs to be low on water.

>My name is Aldaren.
Whatever you say, Shazam.

And before I go for a bit. Giving the flesh heat resistance so they don't cook would be a good idea for the Zaki.

>>350106
You're right, make it temperate.

Genesis 2011/09/18(Sun)13:12 No. 350121 ID: 700bab
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>>350109

I'll move the planet away instead. Moving Rao could mess up Avalon's ecology pretty bad!

Heat resistance has been added.

>>350112

I just assumed you didn't want a planet covered by tundra, Oggar. Anyway, I'm changing it to a generally semi-arid planet... Most things should be able to live here.

Alright, now for that magic moment. First make that diamond statue safe zone. Next, assume your humanoid form.

Now, make our red leader first. He can't move, but can see us make the other zaki. When done doing that, pat him on the head 'waking' the other zaki and allowing him to move. This way, he knows there is a higher force without making it a grandiose thing.

let's give Faden a sister, do the same thing you did before, but make the body be of a different material

the list is in a decreasing level of preference

Light

Fire

Diamond

Water

Ice

Genesis 2011/09/18(Sun)13:58 No. 350148 ID: 700bab
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>>350128

Perhaps I should focus on one thing at a time. Remember what happened the last time I tried to multitask?

Genesis 2011/09/18(Sun)14:00 No. 350149 ID: 700bab
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The first zaki has been made. Shall it be able to reproduce, and shall it pass on its 'leader' properties onto its children? Furthermore, how many other zaki shall I create, and howw should they reproduce? If they have sexes, will sexual morphology be present in their species? How?

>>350148
i meant for you to do it after we're done here

Suggestion 2011/09/18(Sun)14:59 No. 350200 ID: a2cd11
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they would be divided in male and female, they would look somewhat like this

Genesis 2011/09/18(Sun)15:21 No. 350205 ID: 700bab
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Sexual reproduction, two genders, one pair of mammary glands for the females, genitals behind the pelvic plate... Okay, I got it. How many more of these should I make?

Oh, and the leader... Will it be a male or female? Fertile or infertile?

male and fertile, his children would have a orange color

>>350207
This.

>>350205
Let's make 200 of them half being male and the other half being female.

I think we should make FIVE hundred, with half being male and the other half female.

Yknow, for long term survivability.

Also, to prevent an instant patriarchy, we should make him a wife at the same time. Make all of her children be purple.
This will go well...

>>350222
>at the same time
Whoops, too late for that.

Male, but infertile. He's basically our zaki leader, future champion, and a very possible godling. Giving him a family means possible demi-gods or even causing a holy empire situation. Those tend to end badly especially if one ruler thinks they have divine rights.

Besides, this may allow for the competent to take roles rather than the red shells. Have him be the apex of what the regular Zaki dreams of even when he ascends.

Oh god we're actually doing this? When did we learn how to make quality sentients?

Like I said before, we have all the building blocks. We just need time and actual experience. The reason Faden's first encounter went bad now seems to be because we gave her too much in too little time.

Right now, the Zaki will likely be lowish intelligence. Stone Age in terms of skill in tool use and general knowledge. Now they just need to grow on their own with some light guidance.

Like you said, we have NO experience. You get experience by learning and via examples. As such once these guys advance, we'll have a blue print for OTHER intelligent races.

Unless you have other ways for us to learn how to make a fully intelligent creature(professor would likely let us try things on our own rather than help.), we need to get right on this.

Besides, we basically gave these guys the full package. Pack instinct, tool use, curiosity, survival instinct and all the things needed to try and become 100% intelligent. All we need to do is watch and wait and give them a little help in key times.

We are on a time limit and a welcoming party to help protect and aid the refugees to grow accustom would be a major point for us.

I agree with having our demigod infertile, because descendents of a demigod would lead towards a more entrenched aristocracy which in turn are more likely to become inbred and corrupt.

>>350283
>>350297
tl;dr: we didn't learn how to make quality sapient creatures; we're learning now.


Once we're done making sapient creatures here, can we go invite Faden into the airlock and teach her a couple things safely? We could probably get her to like and respect us better if we showed her how to make simple (harmless) creatures and plants out of, say, stone or ice. Plus it would encourage her to be a little more creative than just making things out of yarn.

Genesis 2011/09/19(Mon)02:38 No. 350359 ID: bb1da0
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I can't seem to decide whether he should have children and a wife or not... I'll make him infertile for now.

Wow okay I actually found that kind of creepy.

Anyway now that's done, let's see what their reactions to everything are and then go give Faden some life-building lessons? Unless she's figured out how to make more things than just yarn creatures since we've last seen her.

Genesis 2011/09/19(Mon)03:25 No. 350366 ID: bb1da0
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>>350365

I believe "panic" describes their initial reaction quite accurately.

Meanwhile, Faden is starting to figure out the art of weaving.

>>350366
Hahaha! Do they look like they'll be able to scratch out a survival? We should probably change a few things if they are to die so easily.

Genesis 2011/09/19(Mon)04:30 No. 350370 ID: bb1da0
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The zaki have figured out the statue's beast-repelling effects. There's 163 survivors now. They're trying to figure out a way to get food. Meanwhile, the leader has noticed his exceptional speed and strength... As did the other zaki.

Shifter55 2011/09/19(Mon)05:17 No. 350371 ID: 2ce97a
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Hmm... there doesn't seem to be much materials other than stone around the statue, Maybe you should try letting some seeds of tree-like plants land around and inside the boundary of the repel-radius?

And maybe you should give Faden some stone beads? We might as well wait for her to finish whatever she is doing first, though. She might be able to find uses for different shapes and materials when she's creating creatures. She should at least be able to work out how to make them herself after a while.

Genesis 2011/09/19(Mon)05:35 No. 350373 ID: bb1da0
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>>350371

It's not a suitable location for silverwood or coppertop to grow.

What would Faden even do with stone beads?

Why, beadwork, of course! She's made of yarn, and beads will make perfect ornaments for her to wear.

Just imagine: your daughter comes home for the first time with a fire-and-water-essence necklace on her neck... ;-)

>>350374
And then the beads accidentally click together and end all of Creation.

Okay, so now that we've got intelligent life, what do we do? We can't just give them everything on a silver platter, or they'll never learn.

I was thinking more along the lines of showing her how to make a little four-legged rock/metal guy, or a climbing ice vine, or a slime squid, or a herbaceous tree that makes a dense, pitted fruit. Give her a few ideas and templates like that.

>>350371
She has all the essences and energies, she just doesn't appear to be using anything but... yarn. Or something. She might have a reason, but I thought we could kind of nudge her, too.

We should probably also show her how to make pools and mountains and stuff, since her plane works fundamentally different and she actually has to create her own geography.

You know, just in case she hasn't figured it out yet. Let's go to the airlock.

Genesis 2011/09/19(Mon)07:24 No. 350381 ID: bb1da0
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Okay... What now?

Um... actually, let's just make it look a bit less airlock-y first. Still function the same way, but let's not make it too jarring compared to Faden's plane.

Then let's close the portal to the infinite plane and open the portal to Faden's plane! If she doesn't feel like coming through, stick a hand through and wave and see if you can't draw enough attention to yourself for her to stick an eye in.

Damn, I seem to have made Spearlings our version of the honey badger. They just don't give a fuck.

Well, I think it's time we test out magic for our leader. Spearlings seem to be dangerous, but they are melee creatures. Gently teach him how to use a fire ball spell, and maybe a speed enchantment spell. You can possibly do that by having the words or movements entering his head like a memory. Preferably when spearlings show up.

When we get back from Faden, try implementing some hearty herbs for the Zaki. A few ideas to help.

Mountain Mint. A refreshing herb that grows in clusters. They reproduce via seeds. Their roots do not go deep, but they are strong enough to anchor into very rocky areas. They absorb some minerals and plenty of nutrients from the ground making them relatively filling and good for the body.

Aldrian Lily: Our first magical flower. A flower with pure white petals. They grow around our statue and the petals have the ability to heal wounds when eaten. They grow naturally around the statue, but to grow outside they need magic to be poured into the seed.

These should help them out enough. The mint should be able to keep our current zaki pop sustained, but they would need meat to flourish. The lily will also help insuring mortality from wounds isn't depressingly high once they figure out what the petals do., but that can wait until you get back.

Genesis 2011/09/19(Mon)11:37 No. 350434 ID: bb1da0
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>>350382

I build a door into the room with the two portals- it leads out of the building and onto a large empty space.

>>350417

I'm not so sure about that. They didn't even figure out general organization, hunting tactics, farming, building, language, or a decent way to survive in general... yet. They have a long way to go... In fact, it could take millenia until they can truly be called sapient.

And you're right about spearlings- they have sharp fangs, large claws, a giant scary stinger, an armored but lightweight hide, high speed and endurance, resistance to many environmental hazards and hunt in tightly-knit packs... They just don't have to give a fuck.

Genesis 2011/09/19(Mon)11:38 No. 350435 ID: bb1da0
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Look who's here!

show her how to make a swerg. should let her understand that they don't need to be yarn.

First, say hello.
Next, be sure not to let her hug you and drag into her realm.
Then, make a swirg, commenting aloud on each step. We want her to learn Aldarenian, right?

Hey there Faden, lets see how her latest attempt at a creature turned out.

Hmmm.. was afraid of the thousand year long brain growth. Good thing we started early. We could likely speed them up a bit via a nudge here and there. Maybe allow some swirgs to go into the area of the statue and see what they will do to them. Tinnies as well since their hides would give them some stuff to work with.

A time/space bubble for the second planet so time progresses faster could also help.

Genesis 2011/09/19(Mon)12:24 No. 350440 ID: bb1da0
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Speaking of time bubbles, I just figured out this neat trick.

Genesis 2011/09/19(Mon)12:25 No. 350441 ID: bb1da0
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Let me show you... It's called a

...Clever god.