>>346717
that's cause you called them aliens and gave them forehead thingys.

>>346719
No, the goblins. From 'The Sword.'

http://quest.lv/kusaba/questdis/src/130060977739.png

>>346720
jukashi's hair is really a hairpiece, gnoll's new gobbo design are mostly on mohawks or just a toupée, im fine with both styles. gnoll's gobbos look more punk, and are acting like it too.

so. about the quest. are we supposed to take the dorf fort approach? because i cant really see a heading here, but we can get a wool production and diplomacy will feel fishy anyway.

maybe we can make a religion and raise clerics?

>>346714
Goblins with ears that point up are traditional according to mainstream tradion. Droopy-eared goblins are traditional according to /tg/ tradition.

>>346726
We follow a demon. That's not religion, that's ordinary goblin society: The demon is a badass, so we serve him. Adding religion to the mix wouldn't do much.

Evil plan: Find plants and mushrooms that can be turned into drugs.

Slip drugs into human food supply, livestock and alcohol.

Start raiding and burning things once people start getting sick and high.

Approval rating?

>>346740
Delivery method needs work. Just sneak in and drop mushrooms in their dinners? Nah. We need to cause a great feast to happen, so it all gets to them at once, and make sure it's in the soup (or something) and then we get them all at once. The problem is: How do we ensure a feast, and how do we get our agents (who are a different color than humans and thus easily detectable) to tamper with the food without arousing suspicion?

uhhh. SNEAK it into the food SUPPLY. as in taint the grain while it's on the wagon.

Kidnap a human and test the drugshrooms first. You want them high and tripping their balls off trying to fly to another galaxy with their carts, not berserking and tearing you 666 new assholes in the name of Yog-Sothoth.

im getting vibes of chaos cleric definitively.

i mean, we could make some mutation potions and just trhow it down their wells.

just imagine what we could do with a few gallons of it in a nearby river! all of those carps will eat every fisherman alive even on ground!

Personally, I just love both the old and new designs, they are both very awesome. Current design is more "hard", as in, looks like it takes much more effort with the rewards being easier to distinguish characters and better looks.
I personally like the hair, ears, and eyes both before and now.

>>346740
I'd prefer enslaving, pillaging, conquering, etc to burning and butchering.

Conquest > Destruction... We should declare worship of our demon overlord (Xom?) of chaos the official state religion once we conquer enough to be considered one. Integrating other races into this giant chaos worshipping culture of all races would be awesome.

But I do like your idea of tainting the human's food supplies with mind altering drugs (no poison though). For one thing, it is in line with the primary goal our demon overlord gave us (sow chaos)

>>346746
"oi Phillip, why's there mushrooms in this here grain?"
"dunno, toss 'em out"
"queer-ass merchant trying to short-change us, I reckon"
"Even stranger considering we's farmers and grow our own food."
Also it would be to dilute even if they magically did just decide to include everything that happened to be in their grain in their food. We want it to hit everybody all at once.

>>346761
The guy's name is lurezcamor, it's in the name field of the first post of the thread.
There's nothing to indicate he has anything to do with chaos in the way you're referring to it.

come on you guys know better than that right? I mean making powdered drugs, stuff that will dissolve into drinks and disperse into food, stuff that's hard to spot right away.

And yes, for the sake of Chaos and Discord, non-lethal drugs would be best. Also, looting, pillaging and burning do not require heaps of dead bodies.

We must also develop a calling card for places we have dropped into chaos. Perhaps a drunk, crazy goat left in Town Hall?

>>346768
meaning the best place to hit would be a winery or something that makes drinks.

>>346768

Reason is with this one.
I agree. I like the goat calling card, very funny.
Anyway, we aren't interested in destruction, the order of the day is chaos and discord, which are more fun and not boring, if we destroy everything then DL will be pissed

if this is DF based then digging to the adamantine and making a floating eye sized hole to the underworld, so we can bargain with the demons to leave the gobbos alone but are free to run about the rest of the country would be a good plan.

>>346768
Even if we use something undetectable, we want it to all hit at once, otherwise we're just wasting it.

>Perhaps a drunk, crazy goat left in Town Hall?
Waste of a perfectly good goat.

>>346777
obviously we would put the crappiest goat there. like, a goat so bad it make boxbot seem useful.

>>346779
Why not just put the head of a goat that's already been butchered for food?

>>346784
Perfect.

>>346768
It doesn't require it, I just want to make sure it doesn't INVOLVE it...
Although burning tends to end badly. Even if people evacuate they can end up starving, and what will you steal from them next month if they are all homeless and hungry?

I love the idea of a crazy drunk goat at town square as a calling card, HILARIOUS!

So I see several good paths:
1. Conquest: Conquer and integrate everyone, state religion is the worship of lurezcamor, children must attend school where they are brainwashed into following him and encouraged to train as his clerics. Clerics = awesome.
2. Raiders & tricksters: Raid nearby towns leaving a drunk goat, get alchemists to make hallucinogenics and spike water with them. Sell them too because people love getting high and its worth lots of money.
3. A little bit of both: start a conquering empire, but don't conquer everything... leave a target (other nation) for the clerics of lurezcamor to attack.

Don't do those:
1. Destroyers: Kill everyone else, burn down shit.

>>346717
I'm sorry, I'd say it's an oversight except you haven't been updating. Would you like me to complain about it?

>>346820
Jukashi had to take a break to prevent hands falling off. For serious.

>>346822
I found quest.lv from a link on his website with a fancomic about the Exalted game system.
I know plenty about his work and judge it amusing and praiseworthy despite having the ugly Japanese-cartooning big-eyes-small-mouth thing going on.
Besides, I owe him for leading me to this website, I'd otherwise have never read Romanticar.
So if he's feeling left out because I didn't criticize his goblins' hair then criticizing it is the least I could do I suppose. He may have wanted something else so I'll wait for him to confirm that's what he wanted though.

I was... joking, I guess. Not a very good joke, really.

Thanks anyway, though!

>>346830
And my joke was pretending that you really were requesting a complaint or annoyed I hadn't complained about your work. :D

Gnoll 2011/05/23(Mon)17:01 No. 37065 ID: 8c0848
File 130619526883.png - (24.78KB , 960x650 , Size Chart.png )

Goblins are not huge. Why would they be huge? That's dumb. This is a size chart that shows how not huge they are.

>>346865
thanks for clarification... so it was indeed a perspective thing.
>>346667
WOO! Goblins gone wild!
PS. I like your hair goblins.

I am warming up to these new goblins. That picture helped.

>>346829
>Besides, I owe him for leading me to this website, I'd otherwise have never read Romanticar.
>Romanticar
You've got some odd taste.

>>/quest/306296
Digging underground is most efficient in Dwarf Fortress, and this setting is probably based off of DF. However, the fact that the practice of digging out housing is not only viable but preferable in that game doesn't mean that the same is the case here. In DF that's partially an artifact of the system and partly because you play as dwarves, who are traditionally subterranean. For goblins we're probably better off just living above ground.

>>346872
by above ground you mean on huge obsidian towers vacated by the demons that they serve

digging stoes or pathways below earth is good. im also partial to secret storehouses underground. safe passages to the surrounding of the nearby human farm/villa/city is the best way to steal and go unnoticed.

if we find a river we may run into issues since the tunnels would eventually collapse, but it may serve as a second food source along with water as well as a moat.

>>346872
>the fact that the practice of digging out housing is not only viable but preferable in that game doesn't mean that the same is the case here.
True, but it also doesn't mean that the opposite is true.
The fact that this isn't DF (which I am not familiar with) just means it isn't DF. Some things can work in both, some things don't.
I suggested digging underground because of several reasons:
1. Tradition.
2. 3D space, more efficient placement.
3. Good defenses, especially against humans.
4. Cheap as dirt (heh) building material.
5. Digging provides housing AND mining at the same time.

>>34687
It depends on how realistic the setting is. In real life, trying to make subterranean housing without modern materials would be extremely difficult, and probably end in collapse and suffocation.

>>346874
>>346878
>>346873
Well, even apart from hazards such as potential collapse, or gas pockets and poor airflow, or whatever else, there's the fact that taking a pick and digging into bedrock is fucking hard work. I could easily build a wood frame house in the time it would take to excavate a cellar from bedrock. Admittedly I've only tried this once ever, and it's possible that it's easier in places with softer stone, but that would just exacerbate the possibility of cave-ins, and even with very soft stone, the goblins could easily build a dozen huts in the time it would take to dig out the space of volume of one.

>>346880
If you can even dig down to the bedrock in the first place.

>>346893
Good point, considering how flat the area appears to be it's probably quite deep.

You are being very strict and scientific about this considering we are a magic floating eye in a goat enchanted and sent forth by a demon to sow chaos via goblins...
Traditional RPG goblins live in underground tunnels... but if you insist on bringing modern science into it then fine, be that way.

Gnoll you jerk. Update us faffing about.

>>347319
faffing about quest... Prequel to "The return of the faffening" and "faffening harder".

>>346995
Magic or fantasy elements existing in the world doesn't mean common sense or ordinary physics don't exist.

Do traditional RPG goblins really live in underground tunnels? Traditional fairy tail goblins do - but they are nothing like RPG-style goblins other than being short. (they're super strong, extremely clever and powerful enchanters and illusionists). I remember most fantasy RPG style goblins living in huts and villages and stuff, but they're pretty vaguely defined across different settings and systems really.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OurGoblinsAreDifferent

Have fun having your time devoured.

>>347323
Why the hell are these articles called "our ___ are different?" That's really just unclear and marginally confusing.

>>347324
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I have no words to respond to this

>>347325
All the articles are just about what fantasy centaurs/goblins/angels/etc. are generally. I thought it was going to be about how people feel like they have to make their version different in some way or something, whereas it's actually about using a generally defined set of characteristics so the reader knows what the author is talking about.

>>347325
They are like shitty wikipedia articles with incorrect information rather than some kind of actual trope thing.

>>347329
That sadly describes 95% of TVTropes these days.

IIRC, Dwarf Fortress gobbos are mostly surface-dwellers (with underground road networks, says the DF wiki?), and since I believe that's from where the pre-redesign ones drew inspiration, probably your best bet for an appeal to nature on where they "should" build crap. :V

>>347329
sadly this is true.
>>347324
It is basically a list of non standard variations of a classic monster. Take the "our vampires are different" article.
The classic vampires must drink blood, are stronger and faster then human, are killed by sunlight, hate garlic, silver, etc.
So "our vampires are different" lists exceptions to that, such as how in twilight vampires are not harmed by the sun, and glitter. etc.
At least, that is the intent.

>>347338
The new design is actually a bit closer to DF goblins, since they have hair, though it's less similar to the ones in the goblin camp mod where they were all female, and goblin hair in DF has a fairly narrow array of possible colors, including mostly pinks and purples.

>>347350
Really? I mean... I knew that.

>>347351
[TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:AMETHYST:1:CARMINE:1:CRIMSON:1:DARK_SCARLET:1:DARK_VIOLET:1:FUCHSIA:1:HELIOTROPE:1:INDIGO:1:LAVENDER:
1:LAVENDER_BLUSH:1:LILAC:1:MAROON:1:PLUM:1:PUCE:1:PURPLE:1:SCARLET:1:VERMILION:1:VIOLET:1]

So actually there's also a fair few reds in there too.

>>347350
yeah because of that I imagine them all with Mohawks and other corny "punk" hair styles