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11537 No. 11537 ID: ab52c1

Hey, remember towergirls?

I recently got caught up on it and I thought it might be fun to start a tgchan generation. Something full of princesses that are near and dear to tgchan's heart.
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No. 11538 ID: ab52c1
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11538

Here's the final form of the first chart, in case anyone needs a reminder.

Now, what I feel is important is that each princess can't be just a direct reference to a single character from a single quest. They should be something more archetypal, although their items and traits might (and probably should) be call-outs to various quests.

So what we need to start is a big pile of ideas for princesses and items and traits, then all those things that can get refined into a set of twenty as concepts and designs solidify.
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No. 11539 ID: ab52c1
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11539

Here's a few thoughts of my own to get the ball rolling.

Blank Slate Princess: Or chargen princess. Tabula rasa but your early decisions are extra important and prepare for unexpected consequences.

Amnesia Princess: Maybe they were evil or just prone to bad decisions in their previous existence. Time for a fresh start. Possibly too much overlap with blank slate.

Lab Princess: You wake up in a lab and... is a time honoured opener.

Critter Princesses: There's quite a few fantasy, sci-fi and original races that tgchan likes. Goblins, slimes, gnolls, cutebolds, mimiga, tozols, scellor...

Clothing Damage RPG: It's a literally a quest category in the wiki.

An idea I can't take any credit for but that I really liked is that the dragon of the generation is an undead dragon residing in the Quest Graveyard.
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No. 11540 ID: ab52c1

Oh and I have just discovered that there's a word filter still in effect changing the names of those space rabbits from Lagotrope's quests to 'mimiga', which we all know they actually are.
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No. 11541 ID: 33cbe7

-Badass Princess: A secret agent, lone wolf, killing machine, who shoots first and kills later. Solves puzzles by jamming the mechanism with corpses. Suggested influences: Static on the Wire, Polokoa Quest, tozols again.

-Creator Princess: Seemingly limitless powers to create, overwhelmed by the possibilities, easily distracted. Includes elements of TCP, Genesis, and far too many shorter-lived void filling quests to count.

-Date Princess: Her life seems to revolve around you, love at first sight. But, something darker lurks beneath the surface? Comes from quests about dating: Enemy Quest, Coxwette, Dragon Romance, Spookquest. Datequest
(Might want a lighthearted counterpart - sort of a dwarf i/dwarf ii situation?)

-Bodyswap princess: Always waking up in a new body. Sometimes even your body! Perhaps it's the same body, but radically changed in some way. Idiom quests are a genre unto themselves, but there are certainly other authors (*cough* OP) who do this too.

-Scientist princess: Look, someone's got to be running the lab Lab Princess ran away from. They don't understand why their test subjects keep making things so difficult. They only want to help! The procedure is totally safe. For Scientist Princess. On the protagonist side, we have Tory, Eezeryh, the Science Team, maybe others. On the antagonist side we have the Voice of the Alchemist and a whole lot more (and Tory again).

-Shipwreck princess: Where else do protagonists wake up? Next to the smoking wreckage of a vehicle. Survivalist by trade or necessity. Might not have had a lot of company before you came along.

-A princess somehow embodying the concept of body part days (and perhaps tgchan's lust for lewd fanart in general). Hard pressed to think of a name (Bodypart Princess suggests something else entirely, Exhibitionist is too broad)

-A certain ant-shaped princess representing a certain spoiler function of the board. The counterpart to the TGChan holiday princess above, illustrating the duality of man.

-Talisman of infinite psyche is a natural dowry choice, though its usefulness (and wisdom) is questionable.
-Perhaps John as a courtier? Coincidentally, another gen has already incorporated a sergal princess.
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No. 11542 ID: ce9d3e
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11542

This is not following what you wanted, but I haven't done any art in a while and I wanted to post something!

Also the template you linked is super tiny, so I just screencapped the template on the actual image.
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No. 11543 ID: ab52c1

>>11542
ohno, she's cute.

The likes and dislike are just perfect too!

That's odd though, I just cropped the template out of the original image at 100% zoom. I'm still not really used to working in rasters instead of vector art. I should have remembered people prefer to work at a higher resolution than the final version!

>>11541
There's a lot of good ideas here. I'd argue the body part days will probably work better if they're worked in as a sub theme of a few princesses though, they don't stand alone well.

Bodyswap might work as a robot? Memoriam and Rollback sprung immediately to mind. Static on the Wire had a little bit of that as well with Sev-Three-Six-Two. Perhaps a Wetware item to load the princess into organic bodies, a Shell Upgrade to modify the current body and the lust item can be the Upload Chip for sharing the digital immortality around?

Orb of Infinite Psyche could be a Grave Dragon Princess item? It gives questionable advice, but things tend to work out if you follow it.
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No. 11544 ID: ce9d3e

>>11543
Wait, you're right, it ended up being the same size either way. I don't know what I'm talking about evidently.
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No. 11545 ID: ab52c1
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11545

I thought I'd take a stab at a princess I had some ideas for. Also trying out two options for the face. Considering using 'X Y Quest' instead of 'X Y Kingdom'.

Fresh Start Kingdom's
BLANK PRINCESS

+Charmingly naive
+Fast learner
+As you like it
-Bland at first
-Prepare for unexpected consequences

(might replace a minus with 'Inconsistent')

Love: 2
Lust: 2
Wealth: 2
Power: 2

Item 1: ???
Item 2: ???
Tabula Rasa: Raise a princess's Love, Lust, Wealth or Power but lower another

"On the cusp of making a life for herself, this princess was kidnapped by a dragon! Where will her journey take her?"

<3: Vanilla
<3: ???
</3: ???

Let me know what you think.
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No. 11546 ID: 33cbe7

>>11543
Perhaps later, we'll determine the queens of bodypart days and incorporate those into the likes/assets of whichever archetype they inspire.

Meanwhile, a princess concept from a stranger land:
Evolution Quest's Evo/Mutant Princess. Pro: A product of millennia of natural selection! Con: terrifying alien biology. Oh god, where's the everything? Evo games are relatively sparse on this board (Cthulhu runs one presently and Puruu Quest is based off such a setting), but they are apparently popular on /qst/, and /tg/ before that.
Items: natural defenses (a venomous stinger or something), tribal jewelry, a lostech bord artifact.
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No. 11547 ID: 33cbe7

>>11545
I like the right's exposed eyes more! Really sells that blank, mannequin-like stare.
I'd definitely replace the first negative with Inconsistent.
One item could have the Amethyst Gossamer's 'select a dowry' function. Another could be a scanning lens that lets you analyze the 'stats' of things.
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No. 11548 ID: 0c3c2c

>>11545
Seems interesting. What kind of unexpected consequences though?
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No. 11549 ID: ab52c1

>>11548
Oh the idea is the choices that set the character may have follow-on effects.
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No. 11550 ID: ab52c1

Not much time to art today. It's looking like it'll be easier to fill out a list of twenty than I thought though.

Some ideas that have come up from talking about common quest archetypes were slime, wizard and revenant princesses. For goo, wacky magic and vengeance from beyond the grave.

I think I'll rewrite the Blank Princess to be a bit clearer about her gimmick. She still needs two items, a like and a dislike to be finished too.

I was originally going to make Tabula Rasa a copy of the 'pick a dowry' item but thought I'd try out something different.
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No. 11551 ID: b1b4f3

What about Hurry Princess?
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No. 11552 ID: b58718

Why the hurry?
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No. 11553 ID: ab52c1
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11553

Needed a few colour tweaks to make something that works with the towergirls style's heavy black lines but I think this is getting there. Tried out a belt of slates, but it might be better to keep it as a simple summer dress style outfit.

Tweaked pros, cons and blurb:
+ Charmingly naive
+ Develops quickly
+ Open to suggestions
- Inconsistent
- Prepare for unexpected consequences

"On the cusp of making a life for herself, this princess was kidnapped by a dragon! Still a blank slate in need of guidance, how will she develop?"


Still feels like it's missing something but ah well. No luck thinking of good Blank items so here's a possible pair of items for Clothing Damage RPG (Modest?) Princess because I cannot resist alliteration.

Bare Blade: Strips enemies of their will to fight.
Shorn Scarf: Clothes are damaged instead of the wearer.

Offensive and defensive options! Not sure what to set for general character traits though.
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No. 11554 ID: ab52c1

>>11542
To work in some quest references, I was thinking of making a straw hat item for Cutebold Princess (You get one free miracle?) as a reference to Chee Quest. I'd like something that references Labyrinth too, but it's late and I'm struggling. Any thoughts?
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No. 11558 ID: 33cbe7

>>11554
Battered crown, grants you one wish (within reason). Now your cutebold has a choice of headwear!
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No. 11559 ID: 33cbe7

>>11558
Or if a wish is too broad, it could grant mega strength like they used it for.
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No. 11560 ID: 12b116
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Golem Princess, her lus-
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No. 11561 ID: 2474dd
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11561

Not really what Arhra had in mind but wanted to take a stab at it.
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No. 11562 ID: ab52c1
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11562

I felt like drawing a robutt so I worked on a princess idea.

Visually a bit of a mash-up of Marie from Rollback, Mnemosyne from Memoriam and Sara from Static on the Wire. Debating changing the hair to reference someone else if I can think of a good example.

https://tgchan.org/wiki/Rollback
https://tgchan.org/wiki/Memoriam
https://tgchan.org/wiki/Static_on_the_Wire

Brain Bank Kingdom's
SHELL PRINCESS (also considering backup)

+ Full of useful devices
+ Lifetimes of experience
+ Replaceable body
- Accident prone
- Occasionally a roomba

Love: 1
Lust: 4
Wealth: 4
Power: 3

Shell Upgrade: Modify an upload's current body.
Wetware: Allows transfer into a biological body.
Upload Chip: Upload anyone.

"A digitised consciousness in a robotic body, this princess craves new experiences."

<3: ???
<3: ???
</3: ???


I'll be honest, unless there's bad jokes to be made, the likes and dislikes has always been the weakest link for me. This should maybe be reworked into a more general robot princess, but there's been a fair few quests with more general transhuman themes so maybe it's fine? I've been debating a Scrapyard Princess for post apocalyptic robots (of which tgchan has quite a few!) too.
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No. 11563 ID: 0c3c2c

>>11562
I think Backup Princess would be a good idea! Also, try playing with civil rights issues for Likes and Dislikes
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No. 11564 ID: 33cbe7

>>11562
A transhuman robot princess, a posthuman robot princess, and perhaps a... pre-human robot princess? One that's learning to be human. Can't think of any off the bat except maybe nanogoo.
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No. 11566 ID: de6d84

Attempting to think of ideas to throw to this, but how would ideas/princesses encapsulating various authors and their quest styles/tropes/patterns/whatever work out possibly maybe?
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No. 11567 ID: ab52c1

>>11558
>>11559
Both work. Might be able to work in a Chop's Dojo reference if it's the strength option.

>>11560
Lust 0! I'm a little on the fence if we've got enough builder type quests to theme a princess after that though!

>>11561
>>11566
Part of the idea was being able to try to reference a few different quests with each princess so I'm a little hesitant, but give it a spin. There's twenty spots to fill after all.

>>11563
Hmm, for Backup Princess how about:
<3 Version control
<3 Civil rights
</3 Malware

>>11564
I was thinking of the Scrapyard Princess because broken robots is a theme that comes up a bit. Survivors is one prominent example! There's Power Quest too, and Imitation Glass Flowers was less post apocalyptic but it's still set in the aftermath of something. There's more quests like that short cute one based on Engine Hearts that died too young.

Also since I've realised this thread is a great opportunity to link quests for people who haven't read them before:
https://tgchan.org/wiki/Chop%27s_Dojo
https://tgchan.org/wiki/Survivors
https://tgchan.org/wiki/Power_Quest
https://tgchan.org/wiki/Imitation_Glass_Flowers
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No. 11568 ID: 33cbe7

>>11567
We do have several dungeon quests, to the point where Dungeoneer isn't even in the top search results! Like Scientist Princess, Dungeon Princess could represent the overseer of one such setting.
Or you could push the golem aspect instead and be about stats stats stats. She could have additional stat bars instead of likes/dislikes as a joke.
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No. 11569 ID: 2474dd

When I did a search Dungeoneer was in top results. I'm curious how/where you did your search.
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No. 11570 ID: 33cbe7

>>11569
On the wiki. Typing in 'Dungeon' won't bring it up in the autocomplete, you have to spell the whole name out.
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No. 11571 ID: 2474dd

>>11570
Eh, the Wiki's search isn't the greatest so I'm not surprised there. I find the real test is Google, which is what I used.
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No. 11573 ID: 51d5a1
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11573

[REDACTED] Spoiler Kingdom's
NSFW PRINCESS

+Tame nudity isn't spoiled.
+Knows how to hold secrets.
+High chances of being a porn princess
-Or gore, a lot of gore.
-oh god everything is a black nsfw box now.

Love: 4
Lust: 4
Wealth: 1
Power: 1

[EXPLETIVE] Tooth: Can hide the presence and true intentios of anyone that it's holding it.
Spoiler Dagger: If someone is stabbed with this knife, they will tell their deppest secrets.
[CENSORED]: NSFW Princess will reveal her true identity to you.

"This princess cursed her own body to hide the secrets of her people."

<3: Secrets
<3: [CENSORED FOR THE WELL BEING OF HUMANITY]
</3: Snitches.
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No. 11574 ID: 2474dd

>>11573
Niiiiiice.
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No. 11589 ID: 094652

>>11573
I'd give you two thumbs up but they might be censored
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No. 11595 ID: ab52c1

>>11573
Haha, I wasn't sold on a spoiler princess initially but that's really cute.

I'm hoping to keep producing about one design per week but for now I think I'd like to work on firming up the list.
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No. 11596 ID: ab52c1

Critters!
My general litmus test is they need to have shown up in quests by multiple authors and be complicated enough that they can fill out a sheet by themselves.

Decided to add five that felt like pretty solid inclusions:

Neumono Princess: So many murder rabbits. I wonder if a Polokoa reference might be overkill?

Tozol Princess: Tozol Quest is one of the quintessential lab escape quests so I'm going to go ahead and put this down as a bit of a mashup of the badass/lab princess ideas.

Slime Princess: Several slime protagonists, and more quests prominently featuring them. Probably the next one I'll make a design for. Traits and item ideas are giving me trouble though.

Scrapyard Princess: Broken robots! Patched up robots!

Elder Princess: Oblitus is the main quest that springs to mind here, but cosmic horror is a theme in a fair few quests.
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No. 11597 ID: ab52c1

Genres!
Perhaps quest formats would be a proper term? This feels a little dry as a category so I've tried to stick to specialised or popular groups. Again, went with five examples mainly from ones that have been talked about so far.

Horror Princess: Between Rubyquest, Nan Quest and Book of Worms, horror's a pretty popular quest genre. Completed quest genre even. Needs a better name!

Date Princess: So much romance, so little time.

Clothing Damage RPG: Bit un-embroidered still but I feel this is a definite include. The punssssss.

Evo Game Princess: Little tricky to find common elements considering alien biosphere, but a few suggestions that have come up were planimals and helium floaters.

Dungeon Princess: Runs a dungeon. Needs more research for examples. Maybe blend in villainy as a job, like Earth Defence Force?

We need a total of 20 so if these all work out we'll be two thirds of the way there.
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No. 11599 ID: 5bad2e
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11599

>>11573

[REDACTED] Kingdom's
Spoiler Princess II (like Dwarf i and ii)

+ too cute
+ seriously, doesn't even swear
+ always looking out for you
- naive
- your new mother-in-law likes to meddle

Love: 4
Lust: 1
Wealth: 1
Power: 4

lunchbox: food inside is never spoiled
aerodynamic spoiler: makes the cart go faster
ice cream: simply delicious

"This princess cursed her own body to protect the innocence of her kingdom."

<3: Surprises
<3: Suspense
</3: Being forgotten


...I should probably read up on Jiniki more for this. Still, spoilers wouldn't be the same without her.
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No. 11615 ID: 2007b6

mimiga/Mimiga Princess's items should probably include some sort of combined red flowers/bioarmor reference. Stamina-boosting underwear, maybe?
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