Can you pick locks directly using gossamer? Or would it be easier just to melt the lock right off?

>>485745
>gossamer >melts when i touches metal

how many times do i need to repeat this?

>>485746
I thought we leveled up and it wasn't instant anymore?

Can't we just melt the lock?

>>485753
yes, instead of popping instantly it burns like it was made of paper. that is still too fast for any solid objects.

>>485754

melting is more badass than picking so we should do that regardless.

Go scope out the cell block, without actually walking through it, if possible. You need to know what the situation is in there before you can make a plan.

Be on the lookout for where cell door keys might be kept, or if they use a system where the cell doors are only operated from levers in the guard station. Also note where the cells are in relation to the exterior walls. Once Ellen is free, she might be able to punch a hole through the walls to get the both of you out.

How's your power and control over your flame? Think you can squeeze it down to a small, thin, strong cutting torch to slice the lock bolt?

Can't rene just disguise her like he did himself? Just a pair of cops walking out of the station.

>>485776
Melting it is awesome, it explains a lot to her without words... it also clearly implicate rene but he was already seen in his real form (that was a stupid mistake on our part).

Maybe, melt just enough to open it and then take it with you? (And catch any metal drippings as well)

You may be able to lure away the guards from the cells with a few strategically placed trashcan fires.

Find the jail cells.

René 2013/01/19(Sat)08:31 No. 486312 ID: c59939
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René heads into the Police station, stopping at the corner when he sees an officer carrying some paperwork down the hall.

>>486312

Ok, there are the jail cells. Sneak up and find the one with our friend in it.

if that officer starts walking towards you, enter that door to your left because he is probably not too busy to notice your aura. otherwise move towards the cells and scout out the corridors while continuing not to get noticed.

>>486312
Rene best to not draw attention to yourself. The Guard has two possible directions he could be walking. If he goes straight then you can proceed down the hallway without him even having caught sight of you.

If he turns right and comes toward Rene I recommend waiting until he is nearly at the end of the hall before turning the corner and walking past him, minimizing the time he gets to see you. Once again counting on the fact you can pretend to know where your going and he is likely headed for the main desk or the captain's office if he is going toward you.
Once at the intersection it might be a good idea to scout the path out to the back door first before going straight to the jail cells. Always have an exit plan inside an unknown building. The front entrance is less then ideal. We can also take the time to scout out any good empty areas for hiding or disguise change to let guards pass by once we have Ellen.

do you see any boxes or crates? if so then make a very light copy of a box and wear it.

move forward watching where the cop is going.

>>486332
Yes, dreamcraft up a cardboard box to hide under.
They'll never suspect a thing.

Keep walking forward like you have serious business to take care of in a hurry. Tilt your hat forward in acknowledgement as you pass.

René 2013/01/19(Sat)18:08 No. 486380 ID: c59939
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René sees no boxes in the hallway, but luckily the policeman headed up and through a door somewhere up the hall.

As René advances, he can see 4 people. A policeman in the dispatch section, who just turned away from the window, a policeman in the detention area, who is doing something at a desk, and two prisoners: a Human Woman and a Reptilian man of some sort.

She's probably further in. You must go deeper.

Go further in, but get out of line of sight of the officer in there while you move.

Whatever you do, do not sneak around suspiciously.
Look busy and like you are supposed to be there, walking confidentially.

>>486409

this, but as fast as possible.

Agreed. Proceed further in walking casual.

>>486380

We need more information. Continue further in.

Unless you happen to have a Soliton Radar in your pocket...

René 2013/01/20(Sun)12:44 No. 486526 ID: c59939
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It looks like the officer was looking at someone coming in. René tries not to be suspicious, so he looks straight ahead and walks by.

René 2013/01/20(Sun)12:45 No. 486528 ID: c59939
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René reaches the point where the hallway turns.

Hang a left. There's one more cell we haven't seen.

go left past the jail cells.

There's gotta be a toilet in there somewhere. Best to know where it is now!

Let's find out if any of the prisoners look interesting!

René 2013/01/21(Mon)02:04 No. 486635 ID: c59939
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René starts heading over towards the other cells when the reptilian prisoner tries to call him over in a whisper.

ask him what he wants.

whisper back "we both know i can't do nothin till i get the key, know where it is?"

Ignore him. Whispering prisoners are almost always trouble.

Get on the corner of the reptile guy's cell so the policeman at the Detention desk can't see you, turn your back to the gnoll policewoman, and cross your arms so your glowy cuffs aren't as apparent. Then ask the reptilian guy what's he doing, in a not too loud voice.

>>486653
Please, do not be all conspiratorial like this. It's conspicuous as hell.

Ignore him

>>486635
Keep going until you can spot who's in the last undiscovered cell. If it's not the water mage, head back to speak to the reptile from out of sight of the police.

René 2013/01/23(Wed)02:57 No. 487103 ID: c59939
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René decides to ignore the prisoner for now, and instead gets a better look at the last jail cell

Bugger. She's not in these jail cells. Go see what the lizard wants.

René 2013/01/23(Wed)05:24 No. 487111 ID: c59939
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René heads back to what, upon closer inspection, turns out to be a lizardfolk man; finding a spot out of sight from the gnoll policewoman, as well as the officer in the detainment section.

He keeps his back to the door to the Patrol and Dispatch sections.

"What?" René whispers

The prisoner whispers back, "What's a mage like you doing in a police station?"

>>487111
We're breaking out another mage. If he helps maybe he can come with.

Well, we're trying to stop a demon attack by getting a satyr out of town.

"Stopping a demon attack. It's being drawn to the satyr mage they have captured and I have to get her out of town before we all die horribly. Do you know where she's being held?"

make sure to whisper

"need the other mage in here, help me out and i can probably think of a way to help you out as well"

a mage imprisoned here has to get out of town before a demon comes for her and kills everybody here. it'd help if he knew anything.

>>487111
Can we tell this guy the full truth? I don't think there's much risk in it, and he might not interfere if he knows the whole truth about elementals. Face it, we need to spread the truth about them. Tell him about the nature of cities and elementals don't mix, and they're really emotional and altruistic toward other elementals, trying to help them out of bad scraps such as being in a city. Mages feel like weak elementals. Bam, all of that information should clue him in on what we're doing.

Hmm looks like we've been made. Best hope they don't put the really dangerous criminals out here close to the hallway. Try to quietly and quickly ask him where the female Satyr mage is being held. If he can tell us that if he helps us distract the guard so we can sneak up on him and knock him out then we'll let him outta his cell when we free the Satyr as well. Then best of luck and all that once we get out the back.

It looks suspicious if we have a long discussion with him here.

He is whispering at us rather then raise the alarm so he probably wants us to spring him out too.

So keep it short and to the point "town in danger, watermage must be taken away or demons will strike, will take you out too, do you know where she is"

René 2013/01/23(Wed)20:45 No. 487233 ID: 4618d3
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René whispers "I'm getting the water mage out of here to prevent a demon attack. Do you know where she is?"

"Yeah, I do. I'll tell you where she is if you'll free me."

Well... we can offer to melt the lock open from the inside, but he has to stay in it until we make our own escape. Still a deal?

If he complains, remind him that the demon attack will probably kill everyone here within seconds.

"Agreed. I'll have to get you on the way out though, melting the bars now would draw too much attention, they might move her if they find out a mage is here."

Melt the lock. If he's lying he'll be a diversion anyway. Win win!

i don't think we can melt the lock, say fine but you need the keys.

if you can melt the lock tell him to wait for you to get back, if he runs out by himself they will just catch him again. as a sign of faith you melt the lock first.

What could possibly go wrong?

It seems fairly obvious to me that the lizard is the mage.
Glamors, how do they work bro?

>>487257
Water/Fire is illusions, she's a Water/Spirit. And could probably Buff herself to bend the bars if given the chance, which makes it likely she has a special containment cell.

"You're crazy and wasting my time. What am I supposed to do, melt the lock and walk you out the front door? That would never work."

>>487233
If this guy wants to get free he'll have to work for it. tell him he needs to completely distract the guard while you sneak inside the detention area. If the guard notices Rene then he can't very well free him now can he?

Honestly I think you can find the water mage on your own without his help but giving him this hope lets you decide if he is someone you want to let loose or not. (Heck he might be a murderer.)

>>487257
Wouldn't work while grabbing those metal bars plus why the ruse if your locked in a cell being observed by guards day and night?

On the one hand, she's obviously in the giant-sized cells, with their superior reinforcement.

On the other hand, having told this guy you're planning a jail break, you're now forced to help him because he can COMPLETELY screw you over if you don't.

If we wanted a good distraction we would be melting EVERY lock on the way to the water mage.

Or... can you illusion him to look like a cop too? knock out cop nearby, illusion the unconscious cop to look like him. Illusion him to look like cop. Put cop in cell.

Follow pattern with water mage. 3 cops walk out of the station.

he's way too out in the open. surrounded by guards from most sides. there's no way he'd escape even if we freed him. sorry bro.

>>487233
This guy isn't in here for being a mage. He's a legitimate criminal. I don't think we should be releasing people willy nilly. Plus if we set him free, police forces will start to explore the rest of the prison to see if there is anything else that's odd. Simply tell him what was stated above, that a demon is planning on attacking the city unless you get that other mage out of there.

>>487437
what we say and what we do don't have to match up.

>>487437
>>487441
Which is why we offer to get him out on the way back, then don't.
Both problems solved.

ask him if he knows what guard has the keys and tell him that he could could give him a Gossamer
key and he can escape when there is less gaurds around and so it would be harder for the other poilce to know it was you that helped him...
and if you don't feel like helping to free a criminal just make a useless key and tell him to wait until you break out the other mage saying you will be a distraction so he doesn't use the key right away to escape and calls the guards when he finds out it doesn't work

René 2013/02/06(Wed)16:21 No. 490933 ID: c59939
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René whispers that he'll do it. He'll melt the lock now and the prisoner can get out with the rest of them, he just needs them to distract the guard inside.

The prisoner agrees, and tells René to get ready. He's going to call over the guard, letting René get into detainment undetected.

ok lets do this also be ready to fight incase things don't go as planned, they rarely do.

This is going a little too smooth, oh well let's roll.

I know what you mean this has favored us... but Rene isn't getting cocky. Take luck when it favors you and and continue to come up with plans of action.

If a fight does happen I'd say spend a point of gossomer to create a burlap sack over the guards head so he doesn't get a good look at you(that way the knights that question him later will likely not have a good idea of what mage did this. Then after the sack in on and he is likely too confused to cry out for about a second or two you want to waylay him from behind ideally. Then quickly let the other prisoner help you unlock the cell with the blood mage Ellen and then quickly head for the nearest exit or create one in a pinch. Ride like the wind out of town and the Salamander woman will hopefully be still in control of herself as you reach her.

(That is all I got for now til more specifics are required.)

René 2013/03/10(Sun)16:18 No. 499366 ID: c59939
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The prisoner forces himself to puke, and calls over the jailer for help. While they're distracted, René makes his way into the jail area.

He's in, and the guard is busy talking with the lizardfolk, but what now?

sorry for the black and white update, but it has been forever since I've updated and I'm bust, but I really wanted to get one out

No reason that you couldn't melt the lock here, open up both cells, and walk out of the station with both of them gossamer cuffed, is there? After all, they shouldn't be suspicious of an officer taking a couple of handcuffed prisoners somewhere.

She's got the keys. We don't need to melt the lock. Just summon up a blackjack and knock her out.

Walk around the corner nonchalantly with your hands behind your back, so that you can catch her by surprise.

find the she-goat and free her. duh.

Get a good look at those keys just encase. I think we should ignore the guard for now as if we try and jump her there is a really good chance we will alert the other guards as well making this rescue a hell of a lot more difficult. We still need to find the blood Mage as well and that is much easier when the whole police station isn't after your head

Nonchalantly ask if something is wrong. I don't see how copying the keys would work given what keys and locks tend to be made from.

Uh... say "hey" and keep going, even though we know that's not going to fly. When she stops us just be like "I need to deal with the mage".

She hasn't seen Rene yet, I believe that he is behind a corner. Rene you really should work out a fire based charm spell at some point. But that aside I think dealing with this woman now is better then leaving her to turn around and raise the alarm on you later. If you can summon a gag or hood over her head that would be ideal, then you could make some cuffs to cuff her to her desk or somewhere away from metal. She'll be discovered and let free once you escape. Get her keys then and quickly open the cells you need (lizardfolk and the Satyr's cell who hopefully you find in the back).

René 2013/03/17(Sun)10:11 No. 500627 ID: cff2a9
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sorry for the lack of clarity, the jailer was around a corner talking to the lizardfolk, and not right in front of René staring at him

René sneaks behind the woman, and before she can react to the sudden light behind her..

René 2013/03/17(Sun)10:12 No. 500628 ID: cff2a9
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He knocks her out.

René 2013/03/17(Sun)10:14 No. 500629 ID: cff2a9
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The Lizardfolk is now asking to be let out, and that he'll tell René where the goat woman is once he is out or has the keys for himself. The Human woman prisoner is also asking to be let out now.

how much Gossamer do you have left. If you got enough think you could give the prisoners simple cop uniforms (or maybe just have the chick use the cop's since you did just knock her out) If not then just let them out after the lizard tells you where goat girl is and then let him out to cause a detraction while you run and grab goat girl then plan on getting out from there.

Rene take a moment to catch the woman and whisper. "I'm so sorry...but I have to do this to save your town." Quickly remove the keys and have a quick look around the back of the jail area for any previously unseen cages. Move the policewoman to her desk and prop her up in her chair as well.

Do not open the cells until you are sure the mage isn't right around the corner. Check the desk where the woman sat there may be something useful there to tell you where Ellen is being held. Then keep you promise to the lizardfolk. The woman...if she is attractive see what she is willing to do to be let go...perhaps she can offer Rene something worth his while or help in his escape once they get outside. Otherwise I have to say too many loose prisoners might draw attention.Especially since her cell is on the direct line with the hallway.

If she threatens to raise an alarm tell her it is not in her best interest to do so as if he frees who he is looking for he'll be back if there is time.

she s knocked out, talking wont do anything. anyway take keys. open lizard door slightly and say that his best chance to run is after you are running. they see the mage is gone and all the cops will chase us. the you can slip out in the chaos.

tell them not yet. first you will get what you came for. then you will free them on the way out. as you say this, use your aura to be as intimidating as possible, to make it clear that you are not one to be fucked with.

>>500629
Notify them that escaping does increase their bounty and jailtime, is it worth it?

The only concern I have is that if we let them out now, they'll go willy-nilly and ruin the element of surprise. A full-scale jailbreak should make it easier to slip away, but not if it happens too soon.

They can have the keys if they promise to wait until we're ready to all escape at once.

René 2013/03/17(Sun)15:06 No. 500676 ID: cff2a9
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René says that he'll give them the keys, but they've got to stay low until he has Ellen. And that it'll be easier to escape then anyway.

He then brings up that escaping would raise their bounty and jail time, and wonders if it's worth it for them.

The lizardfolk says he hadn't thought of that when the woman points out that breaking yourself out of jail and resisting arrest aren't inherently illegal, but anything that'd normally be illegal is still against the law when doing it, so they're fine. Breaking someone else out of jail's illegal though.. René says his bounty went up when he ran from a scarlet knight, so how can that be? She says that his bounty probably went up to represent how hard he is to catch, or he broke laws while escaping.

Rene still has 29 Gossamer. Enough to easily make outfits for the lizardfolk and a few others, though the woman could wear the jailer's outfit.

let them out of the cells and go fetch little miss bleeding heart while they change.

Alright then lets just let everyone out we'll we're at it more bodies harder to get singled out. Now lets grab the goat and get... We did get detections on where she's at right?

>>500676
They sound rational at least so I think freeing them shouldn't be too much of an issue for Rene. Getting a little posse together indeed might be useful to have. Still I believe that a smart idea might be to unlock their cells but see if they are willing to fake them still being locked in case a person walks past. That way they can easily escape or wait for him to come back, in which case he can get them all out together using some uniform disguises.

Get the location of Ellen from lizardman and go rescue her!

René 2013/03/17(Sun)16:14 No. 500692 ID: cff2a9
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René unlocks the cells of the two, and the human woman has the jailer put in her cell.

The lizardfolk says that Ellen is being kept in the Giant detainment section, under watch in their interrogation room.

As the woman prisoner drags the jailer into her cell, she says that the door has a bell on the other side, so that giants can know when normal sized people are coming in. She suggests that René may want to stop that from ringing.

Will René be making an police uniform for the lizardfolk as well?

Making a uniform for the Lizardman sounds like a good idea. You have plenty of Gossamer left for now and all this magical muscle building does you good. (Like drawing your creations will get better with practice.)

So there is a bell on the other side of a door, which we need to silence so that we can slip into the Giant Detainment section quietly(and out again). There are only two ways I can think to bypass it. One Rene very slowly opens the door just a crack so it doesn't strike back and forth then try to grab the clapper or melt it. Alternatively we go back out to the giant sized door and see if there is a way to sneak through there (possibly when its opened by a giant).

Rene feel free to ask the woman if there are any tricks she knows or alternative ways into the Detainment area.

Just burn/laser cut along a horizontal line midway through the door, so that it becomes two doors on separate hinges, then just open the bottom door and squat through. Downside is that that's fairly visible. Best move: create a thin gossamer mirror and stick it under the door so you can see how much wiggle room we have with the bell. If it's far enough from the top of the door, we can melt it less conspicuously, or even stick some gossamered cotton wadding in there, which would probably be our least conspicuous move.

Also, yeah, make some uniforms for them.

Only give the lizard guy a uniform if he wants one. Also ask that one chick if she has any other helpful tips for us

>>500696
That is very clever. I like the make a small door in the door idea but just make sure it won't cause more attention but doing this.

>>500696
>>500704
Or Rene could open the door just enough to reach around and grab the bell, like >>500693 suggested. No need to make things complicated or break things, yet. If it doesn't look like grabbing the bell is an option, then Rene can try something more complex. Just not trying to fire-cut the wooden door apart, since that'll generate a load of smoke. Even cutting the corner out so the bell doesn't hit it will make smoke, and be obvious to anyone who passes that something is wrong with the door.

yes.

>>500696
>even stick some gossamered cotton wadding in there
Bells are usually metal of some sort. Best to just heat the clapper enough to make it melt out, but leave the rest of the bell alone.

or you can just... hold the bell, with your hand.
also
>implying rene can melt metal in a timely fashion

>>500817
>>500717
The trouble with that is that we don't know how big the bell is or how it's positioned. It could be positioned such that, if we open the door enough to reach in there, the bell will ring before we can even get our hands on it. That's why you should form a mirror to slide under the door to check except oh wait there'd be no angle from which to view the bell that way. Okay, other option: form a thin, light something, about the size of a nail file, but slimmer, and slide it along the top of the doorway until you bum into something. That something will be the bell. That'll help us a bit. If the bell is too close to the hinges, for example, we won't be able to get at it before it rings.