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108985 No. 108985 ID: 6cbace

Thought this might be a good thing to have.

http://tgchan.org/wiki/I_Am
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No. 128519 ID: 99ed9b

I like the current pace just fine, it's definitely slow but the occasional burst of heavy plot means we still get to advance, and I like the idea of things slowly crumbling outside our view while our slime is still learning who they are and what they want to do with their life. I mean, they are just a few weeks old, after all.

I'm hoping thing will continue on their current trend for a while, Emils will learn neat tricks and grow in power and possibly influence as well, while maybe catching whiffs of what's going on in the larger world. Eventually we'd want to go and try to do something about the slowly flagging world, Emils still needs other creatures to survive so it's in their best interest to save the natives.

I do like the idea of becoming a huge bioship and blasting off to try and find another planet. Suddenly having a creature develop mana creating physiology based on the history we've been given would seem like a bit of a deus ex machina, but I do see Emils at some point in the future interfering with the larger native society in the attempt to find a solution that saves everyone, herself included.
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No. 128520 ID: 1ed92d

>>128513
I want to go fix the impending mana-apocalypse.
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No. 128568 ID: 130f18

>>128513
>what direction do you want iAm to go to?
Gradually towards an overarching plot
>Should Emils continue her aspirations to be some kind of magical girl?
Yes
>Should she focus on what the natives call magic, more?
She should try to figure out the secrets of 'true' mana production.
>Should I follow other casts?
I enjoy the little side adventures.
>Is the pacing too fast or too slow?
Pacing is just right, for the most part. I enjoy the slow burn.
>Should Slime focus on the ails of the planet?
Yeah.
>Should slime even care for something that might take centuries to deal with?
>Why should slime care?
Stories about magical girls saving the world from world-ending disasters, of course. A blue and orange morality of 'what would a magical girl do?'
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No. 128572 ID: b1b4f3

>>128513
>what direction do you want iAm to go to?
Towards the dragon tower plotline, eventually.
>Should Emils continue her aspirations to be some kind of magical girl?
Sure!
>Should she focus on what the natives call magic, more?
Enough to get some extra utility out of her affinities, at least.
>Should I follow other casts?
On occasion.
>Is the pacing too fast or too slow?
It'd be fine if you updated more...
>Should Slime focus on the ails of the planet?
Yes, if only for its own survival.
>Should slime even care for something that might take centuries to deal with?
Yes, it can live that long via limiting its mass by my understanding, and even if it can't, it will have offspring just like Lust did.
>Why should slime care?
Everything cares about something, even if that something isn't other people. Caring is part of how we make decisions. Slime should care about interesting or useful people. That makes sense even without empathy- those types of people are good to have around for purely selfish reasons.
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No. 128583 ID: e2f5cc

>>128513
>What direction do you want iAm to go to?
A story that involves a strange rabbold that wants to become a magical girl which saves the world from a coming catastrophe, is a master of all spells, and romances her best friend. which is that's what that book said they do anyway and there's a lack of material on being a magical girl.

And as a side objective, try and figure out why these people do the things they do. (probably through digestion)
>Should Emils continue her aspirations to be some kind of magical girl?
>Should she focus on what the natives call magic, more?
See Above.
>Should I follow other casts?
Occasionally.
>Is the pacing too fast or too slow?
Just a weee bit too slow for my tastes.
>Should Slime focus on the ails of the planet?
Yes, because that's what a magical girl would do
>Should slime even care for something that might take centuries to deal with?
>Why should slime care?
She probably wouldn't truly care at first, but if she does try and figure out what makes people tick she'll hopefully find out what empathy is and get some herself.
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No. 128720 ID: d3450c

>>128513

I guess the idea of having emils as a character seperate from the slime is a no-go.
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No. 128737 ID: 834378

>what direction do you want iAm to go to?
To the saving the world part.
>Should Emils continue her aspirations to be some kind of magical girl?
No. Or rather, Emils personal, but Slime should develop other personas as well.
>Should she focus on what the natives call magic, more?
I think she should focus on a more varied set of abilities.
>Should I follow other casts?
Yes.
>Is the pacing too fast or too slow?
The pacing of the story is fine, altho it may be too slow with a once-per-week update schedule.
>Should Slime focus on the ails of the planet?
Yes, the slime should certainly be interested in the grand scheme of things.
>Should slime even care for something that might take centuries to deal with?
Centuries maybe no, but I think plenty can be done in the short term.
>Why should slime care?
Because slime needs to find out what is love.
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No. 128738 ID: 130f18

I suspect that the blue-cored administrator (First?) or one of its agents may be the one that consumed the guard we were observing. That slime also appeared to have a blue-ish overall coloration to it, and Emils denied involvement and doesn't appear to have gained any skills or magic that would have come from the guard. Since First(?) just stated that it's been supplementing its mana using the natives, it seems reasonable that it sent out smaller portions to gather, and either came upon the guard by chance or acted directly to prevent Slime from being discovered by removing someone on its trail.
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No. 128740 ID: b1b4f3

I think it's more likely First was the giant manabeast that was demanding sacrifices from the Rabbold capital.
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No. 128749 ID: e20bdf

The Third is Gluttony because: >as worm-like Mana Beasts begin to emerge from within The Third's body

>>/quest/927100
>Oh, The Fifth is Pride then. Weavers have been trying to get to the towers.

Because Slime is probable the only one who caries an extra core, Sixth is Sloth, who would be ironically active.
Since we know Slime's core is from Gluttony (the Third) mixed in with a gift from Envy and a body from Lust it would make sense the successful experiment is her. Maybe the First was referring to the Sloth core when it asked about "the other subject".
As Lust is currently inactive she have to be the Second, making the First Envy.

The First asked the Third help penetrating Mother's Defenses for fear of waking the Seventh. So the Seventh have a defensive role, what makes me believe it's Wrath.

Lastly the Fourth should be Greed.

First - Envy
Second - Lust
Third - Gluttony
Fourth - Greed
Fifth - Pride
Sixth - Sloth
Seventh - Wrath
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No. 128752 ID: b1b4f3

>>128749
You missed my first post
>>/quest/926962

First: Lust
Second: Envy

The First has a slime body. Slimes are Lust manabeasts.
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No. 128754 ID: e20bdf

>>128752
I'm confuse, when would this encounter happen?
Lust didn't knew about Slime the first time they meet and that encounter end with Lust core being deactivated. She said her slime body would continue to work autonomous and her original body was above them, but I don't recall anything about prime core. Beside, she said her core was too big to leave that cave and her last meeting with Gluttony happened when it passed by during it's diggings.
I'm missing something?
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No. 128756 ID: b1b4f3

>>128754
What? What are you talking about? I don't understand what you just said.

Do you think the giant core Emils met was the First or Second? No. That was just a very large Lust Manabeast, that produces smaller slimes that are more like extensions of its will than separate manabeasts. At least until the main one dies. There are several of them in the world, in charge of cleaning duties.
The First is something else, possibly one of the systems of the spaceship that arrived on the planet. More likely there were multiple spaceships, as the Dragons left somehow.
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No. 128764 ID: 130f18

>>128756
The slime in the sewers was Lust itself.
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No. 128766 ID: b1b4f3

>>128764
I thought it was apparent now that "Lust" is not one single entity. It's a category. First/Second/etc are special somehow, the slime mother we found did not seem to be.

Honestly the only way the slime mother could be First is if the current intermission took place in the short timeframe between Slime waking and meeting the slime mother. The slime mother said its memories were degrading so maybe it just fucking FORGOT that it knew Slime existed? But this is a time window of days. Slime has not been active for long. I really doubt that First grew too big in that time AND forgot Slime.

Anyway, First isn't an Envy type, we know that much. First has a slime body.
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No. 128768 ID: e20bdf

>>128766
Or maybe the shapeshifters can assume the form of a slime.
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No. 128816 ID: f46e5e

>Where I Am go
I wanna see inside the mountain range.
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No. 128875 ID: 7e06cf

And thus, Beatrice is no longer playable.
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No. 128878 ID: b1b4f3

This is a bad april fools joke.
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No. 128879 ID: 7e06cf

>>128878
is it?
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No. 128880 ID: b1b4f3

>>128879
It better be!
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No. 128881 ID: b1b4f3

Also it looks like even though toggling off Bea's ability results in less mana usage, her body is not used to using less mana so it doesn't move around her body properly? And I guess it gets clogged up at her core while the ability's toggled off?
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No. 128882 ID: 91ee5f

>>128875
If this is an April Fool’s joke, then congratulations, you got me. You made me believe it was real and I got pretty scared.

If this is real and not an April Fool’s joke, then OH GOD WHY DID YOU DO THAT?! D8
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No. 128889 ID: e20bdf

I though Slime would always have white fur, skin or scale because of the dragon blood interference.
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No. 128890 ID: 8eaf98

>>128889
I thought it was just albino, though I guess the end result is kinda the same.
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No. 128891 ID: 8eaf98

I Am really hoping Bea just got real tired due to actual muscle use and fell asleep and this is, in fact, a dream.
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No. 128898 ID: b1b4f3

So was that a dream or did those two updates just not actually happen?
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No. 128925 ID: 8eaf98

>>128898
ima go with not happen
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No. 128966 ID: ba2304

Wait wait wait.....maybe we're looking at this wrong......what if trying to make emils into more of a person is wrong....its the rabolds who have mana problems....what if we turned rabolds into shapeshifting slime people like emils....adventure!
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No. 128967 ID: 080aaf

>>128966
I like the cut of your jib.
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No. 128968 ID: 130f18

>>128966
The slimes can't produce their own mana any more than the people can. We need to find a way to quickly stimulate the development of natural mana generation, or get a damn rocket to fly them to somewhere with people who can. As it stands this rock and everything on it are doomed.
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No. 128973 ID: 080aaf

>>128968
We can also reduce the consumption rate of mana to extend our current supply.
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No. 128985 ID: 9cdf42
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128985

A bit of a wait as I try out different art apps.
Have an older Emils, drawn on Tayasuki Sketches.
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No. 128986 ID: 71c0d8

>>128968
But i wanna see bea be a cute slime
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No. 128987 ID: e20bdf

>>128985
That's Emils? But she is smiling with a relaxed look. That's so unlike her...
Are you insinuating Emils will eventually learn how to act naturally?
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No. 128990 ID: 080aaf

>>128987
Or it's the person Emils is copying at an older (though probably younger than in-quest) stage.
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No. 128991 ID: e20bdf

>>128990
In this case Radial could just call her Samatha instead of Emils.
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No. 128999 ID: c8452a

>>128991
It's definitely an older Emils.
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No. 129097 ID: bcc41d

>LU-5 said
>"[Mother] had landed on this planet when she had confirmed it suitable for habitation, and began terraforming though the spread of [towers] to infuse the land with artificial >[Mana]. Somehow, Life had appeared on it's own during the terraforming procedure, and had infused themselves with the artificial [mana]. As a result, the native lifeforms had >adapted to the artificial [mana] without any means to produce proper [mana]. We had hoped that though decreasing the supply of artificial [mana], the natives would be able to >produce their own. Sadly this is not true. Instead they somehow are capable of interfacing with the artificial [mana], somehow accessing [core] abilities to produce localized >environmental and biological modifications. We are not sure how that works or how to patch it, but we could replicate it to our own benefit regardless. If you want to produce >[Mana], your best option will be getting a living [Dragon] or a real [Core]."

Either I'm misinterpreting or it sounds kind of like both sides (or at least LU-5) were a bit unclear on what had actually happened. That or LU-5 was being deliberately vague. Anyway, the timeline, as best as I can figure is this:

* Mother/Dragons crashes on a terraformable planet. Begins terraforming by placing out mana towers, despite damages to herself. The Seven Moderators are created out of [Dungeon Cores] and the parts that made up the ship, manufactories, life support, etc. Mana Beasts serve the Dragons. Dragons remain in deep sleep while terraforming occurs.

* Something goes wrong during terraforming. Intelligent life appears and has come to depend Mana to live. Dragons awaken and begin interfering with the natives who have settled around their terraforming towers. Their solution is to try to slowly wean the natives off of mana.

* This does not work. LU-5 claims the natives 'somehow' began interfacing with [mana] to access [core] abilities. While unable to fix or patch it, the abilities were replicable by LU-5 and her ilk (and Emils - through eating native cores).

* On the other hand, Matron claims that the Avaros' experiment with a live - and then dead - Dragon caused the 'gift of magic' to descend on the people of the world. Devouring Dragon's Blood - and possibly people with cores? - makes mana beasts wild and corruptdd and also be able to take control of others of their kind.

* The Dragons DESTROY THE FUCK out of the Avaros empire, take all of their own tech they can get hands on and leave to hide behind the Dragon's Ridge. Total quarantine. Perhaps they plan to wait it out (deep sleep) again and start over once everything has collapsed and is dead - or perhaps they've got something else going on.

* Thousands of years pass. Somehow some of the Seven separate from their 'real bodies'. Without competent maintenance and a new supply of artificial mana from the Dragons and 'Mother', the mana towers, now known as Dragon Shrines, start failing.

Thought: The problem of mana beasts 'eating' native cores and dragon's blood is proooobably that they gained sentience and free will and no longer had to do what the Dragons ordered. They may have exploited their new-found freedom for various reasons, perhaps by being 'high on life'. Think of it like Emils LITERALLY considering eating ANY living thing she comes in contact with WHENEVER she's given the chance - and not having a bunch of impulses that tell her not to. Some might've never tried - but among the lesser servitors many of the ones that survived and evolved and produced offshoots did, hence how we end up with those of today's wild mana beasts who nom on people on the regular. Sammy is probably an 'evolved' Mana beast of old, being of a size that makes it obligatory to subsist on larger cores, but it's kept its mission priorities in service of Pride. Jogert may be of an 'old school' of mana beasts - i.e. an original mana beast servitor who's just lived for so long that she cannot help but gain sentience. Interestingly, it also had 'sisters' whose solution to that problem was to integrate into a collective consciousness (the one Bag ran into before bringing Jogert to Emils).

Thought: It's entirely possible the Avaros may have considered the lowering amount of mana and that this was one of the reasons for why they were trying to find fixes and going so far as to desperately experimenting on a dragon and making use of its body and blood. That the Avaros Emperor was greedy for immortality is plausible - it certainly is the historical reason that Matron can give us - but keep in mind that we don't know the full extent of the story here. How does an empire react to its lifeblood slowly tricking away - and how is its ruler treated in the aftermath of a catastrophe as big as the one he seemingly caused? No doubt anyone who survived cursed him to hell and back and then to hell again, so the source may be unreliable.
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No. 129102 ID: b1b4f3

>>129097
>mana beasts got free will from drinking dragonblooded natives' blood
Hold up, Radial's said that Emils cannot willingly harm a dragonblooded native. This means that the manabeasts either ingested it accidentally or Kali's Monster gave it to them.
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No. 129104 ID: bcc41d

>>129102
Hm. It's possible that's how it went down, or that there's more we don't know. My blood-to-sentience theory could certainly be off, but if the no-hurting dragon-blooded natives holds true for all mana beasts... that means Gluttony doesn't even kill the family members - it just makes the family sacrifice them instead. Brutal. Even more so if it's been tricking/coercing them and hasn't done any kind of maintenance on the dragon shrine in exchange. It's the classic sentient AI with AI shackles problem - even if it can't hurt you, it can arrange for other factors to hurt you.

Anyway, the conversation with Jogert indicated that (most? some?) mana beasts (at least slimes) weren't initially sentient and had maintenance cycles to prevent them from breaking down or gaining personalities (which means they already knew it could become a problem way back when). If mana beasts in the past suddenly displayed agency and became all lethal and people-eat-y and could co-opt other mana beasts, I'm pretty sure it's either due to sentience o' clock being prompted somehow - or it already having been there, boiling under the surface, due to bad maintenance. A kind of slow-burning 'rebellion', perhaps?

Another possibility - that does not discount the first one - is that there's a difference in the source as regards Emils' dragon blood. Native dragon blood may indeed lift restrictions and add sentience, but when Emils drank 'pure' blood from an actual dead Dragon and is thus subject to in-built Draconic restrictions about not hurting natives (or dragon-blooded natives). Emils is sentient anyway because, A) pure dragon blood adds that too (int boost), but has more restrictions bound into it and/or B) they're a special artificial creature made from parts of three Moderators who already were sentient.

A third theory is that consuming native dragon blood STILL makes mana beasts unable to directly hurt all Dragon-blooded (unless you're a hybrid monster like that Avaros Emperor) and the Dragons were ALWAYS safe from the depredations of basic sentience'd mana beasts - but they could no longer control those mana beasts - who could wrest control of other mana beasts from them. Which meant they were bleeding servants and could no longer safely face the natives or other factors that COULD kill them, like the monster. Perhaps they felt their only option was to take extreme measures to prevent a collapse of power and authority and preserve their people against a worst-case scenario, so dealt a rushed alpha strike and retreated posthaste.
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No. 129113 ID: fb2a85
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129113

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No. 129114 ID: bcc41d

>>129113
See? My word might as well be canon. Hand over the quest reins, Radial, here comes internet mook #844629398!

But yes, I'll hop off the over-analyzing speculation train now.
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No. 129126 ID: 4294c6

I'd like to congratulate Emils for learning how to correctly boop a snoot.
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No. 129206 ID: 5ba090

Hey, I just read this whole thing. Its rather good.
The setting reminds me of this short story a bit https://www.toothycat.net/%7Esham/Access_History.html, which is about a fantasy world that is actually a simulation.
I Am probably doesn't take place in a simulation though. But there are lots of little things that make me think there's something similar going on. The magic system for one, seems very technical and is reminiscent of coding. Jogert also just casually says magic doesn't exist when Emils brought it up, and the way the mana beasts talk about magic also seems very technical, with the natives learning to "interface" with it. The way certain words always appear in brackets, like they're referring to a specific technical meaning and not just the casual everyday one.
Oh, and also a big bar that seemed to indicate health appeared in Emils' vision when she talked to the giant Lust slime. That was a thing.
What this means, I have no idea. My guess would be that the world isn't a simulation, but "magic" is somehow technological in origin. Maybe the world is covered in nanomachines that respond to certain commands.
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No. 129210 ID: e20bdf

>>129206
What we got from the backstory is incomplete and a bit convoluted, but basic the universe is a futuristic version of a more normal fantasy setting.
There were dragons, and presumable other common fantasy races, in another planet, capable of producing mana and cast magic. The mana they produced fed dungeons cores kind of like in Dungeoneer.
At some point the dragons used dungeons cores to produce artificial cored (more machine like) for their terraforming project. So space ships would bring the artificial cores (the mana beasts) to barren planets, those would transform the environment so it could sustain life, and latter the dragons would come in their space ships to colonize.
During the terraforming of the planet the story take place life developed spontaneously, and adapted to the artificial mana the cores were pulping into the environment. That is why the magic system have a program style, the living creatures have the equivalent of dungeons cores and basic hack into the machine like magic of constructions to cast spells.

The mana beasts denying the existence of magic confuse me. I get the idea of magic being whatever science can't explain, but I can't imagine the dragons would stop calling the ability of make fire (or whatever) appear in the palm of their hands "magic" even after they learn how it works.
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No. 129216 ID: 8eaf98

>>129210
I feel this could best be explained by linguistic differences. this ability would have been very pervasive in their lives (if the civ grew up with it) and thus would likely not all be covered by one blanket word of 'magic' and would be treated as a normal thing like say: smell or taste to us. If we were asked is smell magic we would be like obviously not.
Alternatively, it was something they actively developed and then why on earth would they call it magic, they engineered it.
TL;DR: The languages being spoken are not English and translation happens.
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No. 129240 ID: fcbaaf

Sorry for the recent lack of updates, for the past week or two I’ve been sick with coughing and runny nose, and recently, sore throat.

In regards to >>129206 Yes, that’s the idea. There is a hint of technomancy in the way the mana beasts interact with mana to alter the world.
So far, you’ve only seen magic in the view of Emils, or the caster, both of which know what the words they are saying roughly mean.
Like if you say Sayanora, you know it means goodbye despite not knowing Japanese.

Mana is a thing, but there’s very little actual mana on the planet. Majority of it is replaced by artificial mana, which needs to be recharged in the Towers.

Ultimately that means all the towers are a hotbed of life or civilization that can cast high mana processes, at the cost of starving out other regions.

>>129210
“Magic” is only “magic” because there’s an element of fantasy or unknown to it.
Computers and robots to someone who doesn’t know about electronics can seem like magic.
The mana beasts know full well what they’re doing, and how to do it.
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No. 129248 ID: 8eaf98

>>129240
oh good that probably means people are using high magic to try to fix the problem, which probably has zero chance to fix it AND accelerates the problem
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No. 129438 ID: 2e758a

>>129240
Still dying?
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